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Hyde Schools / New York State Funding Charter School In South Bronx
« on: February 09, 2007, 05:11:03 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
The Hyde Charter schools are NOTHING like the boarding schools!  When you take the spoiled parents and students out of the equation, the character program works like a charm!
Take a look at DC's success and you'll see why HYde Leadership Schools are an incredible educational alternative to public education!


No way in hell would any self-respecting public school parent put up with the hoopla and hysteria promulgated down the throats of the captive audience at the boarding schools.  It is a seriously diluted version you are getting (which is a good thing for you).  I've even read of Hyde personnel discussing the necessity of pretty much scrapping the Brother's Keeper bit for all practical purposes, as it just doesn't wash at public school.

No comparison here.

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Hyde Schools / New York State Funding Charter School In South Bronx
« on: February 09, 2007, 05:01:13 PM »
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ยง Joanne Goubourn, the Head of School at the Hyde Leadership Public Charter School of Washington, DC will assume the role as founding Head of School.


It's all very incestuous, isn't it?  Joanne (Wingood) Goubourn, overlapped with Laura (Denton) Gauld (the former 1 or 2 years older).  JoAnne's older brother Harold overlapped with Malcom Gauld.  Harold Wingood was involved at some point with Laurie (Gauld) Hurd, the latter now married to Paul Hurd, alledgedly Hyde's first graduate.

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Tacitus' Realm / Gardasil: Mandatory Vaccinations for PreTeen Girls in Tx
« on: February 09, 2007, 03:01:31 PM »
Rush jobs getting vacs out to the public always give me the willies.  Look at what happened to SV40 contamination of the oral polio vaccine in the 1950's.  Here's a link to get you started.  I'm having problems with Safari at the moment and if I cut-and-paste the whole page, my computer will probably crash.  But there's plenty more info out there about this, I originally learned of this a few years ago on another site.

http://www.viewzone.com/sv40.html

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Hyde Schools / New York State Funding Charter School In South Bronx
« on: February 09, 2007, 02:40:59 PM »
BTW, Thanks for providing the info, Old Hyde Student 197.  It certainly is food for thought for all of us here in La La Recovery Land...

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Hyde Schools / New York State Funding Charter School In South Bronx
« on: February 09, 2007, 02:28:31 PM »
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Scroll to near bottom of document to see the annual payouts by year and projected enrollments. By year 2009-2010 The Hyde Leadership Division will be payed over 10 million dollars per year.

I may not know how to read these things correctly, but I believe you are wrong.  I think what that figure refers to is what the New York City Department of Education will ultimately be paying Hyde Leadership Charter School (HLCS) to cover the cost of the pupil's education assuming full enrollment of 904 students.  That boils down to roughly $11,830 per student per year (a believable figure).  Of the monies received by HLCS from the New York City Department of Education, 3% plus "expenses" goes back to Hyde School:

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The School will pay the CMO an amount equal to three percent of the School?s pupil funding when received from the New York City Department of Education to cover the deliverables and services listed above as well as to support research and development work. HLCS will also reimburse the CMO against invoice for out-of-pocket expenses (for example, HLCS staff training accommodations, printing, which will be billable separately, and without mark-up).
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The Hyde Leadership Schools Division of the Hyde Foundation of Maine will assume the role of Charter Management Organization (CMO).

This still is no chump change, i.e., roughly $320,822 per year presuming full enrollment as noted above, although once its been picked over for administrative costs probably not that much will be left.  I actually really haven't a clue about that so help me out, someone.

The kicker is in the multitudes hoped for:
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The CMO is providing services to two private boarding high schools, the Hyde School in Bath, Maine and the Hyde School in Woodstock, Connecticut, as well as to the Hyde Charter School in Washington, DC and a newly opened charter school in Oakland, CA. The CMO plans to add five new Hyde Schools over the next few years, including HLCS.

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Hyde Schools / Parents are warned about Hyde School by watchdog group
« on: February 09, 2007, 11:06:20 AM »
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...it takes more to be successful in life that scholastic achievement.
 If this is the sum take-home for tens of thousands of dollars per year, I'll take my chances gleaning wisdom from a comic book.

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Spirituality at Hyde?
 Read "The Making of a Messiah."  Cult, cult, cult.

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Hard not to be in good shape when you are there.
 Especially with all those extra "bad attitude" laps.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Yet Another CCM Girl Flaming Thread
« on: February 09, 2007, 09:47:11 AM »
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I'm not going anywhere, I will think for myself always.


Have you no shame?  Compassion?

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Tacitus' Realm / Gardasil: Mandatory Vaccinations for PreTeen Girls in Tx
« on: February 09, 2007, 09:39:44 AM »
Okay, here are the parts that really get me going:
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This was really rushed to market and the long-term effects are unknown and untested. Too small of a sample and too hasty. By making it mandatory, it in effect is forcing young children to be lab rats to help make a profit for the drug company.
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"The most frequent serious health events after GARDASIL shots are neurological symptoms," said NVIC Health Policy Analyst Vicky Debold, RN, Ph.D.
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Merck also states that "The duration of immunity
following a complete schedule of immunization with GARDASIL has not
been established."

Also, the lack of empirical data re. co-administration with other vaccines (routinely done, rarely studied).  And the fact that routine pap smears and examinations will pick it up.

And here is another thought:  Are boys required by the State of Texas to subject themselves to vaccination?  Granted, they have no cervix, but I imagine there are other complications from HBV...

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Hyde Schools / Parents are warned about Hyde School by watchdog group
« on: February 09, 2007, 09:22:26 AM »
Ah, sorry, I am no leader nor was one at Hyde.  Nor am I a Hyde School supporter.  Perhaps you were being sarcastic and I am too obtuse to pick it up?  My "comment" was perhaps an obscure reference to one of the musicals that Hyde had us participate in during the 1970's, duly paraphrased, and thereby indicating the removal of critical independent thought by way of Joe's wind.  Wind also can be read as flatulence.

"Smart but not trying."  I hear you.

I have also often wondered whether Joe was a marginal student himself.  Certainly his way of reasoning in various formats, e.g, school meetings, lecturing the student body, as well as what little I have read of his published news articles, leaves a lot to be desired.  He makes more informal fallacies (a term from Logic, as a subset of Philosophy) than anything save perhaps last minute speeches in a presedential campaign.  And his so-called proofs, the studies he cites, can be picked apart in a second by any intern at a respectable peer-reviewed journal.  What a joke.  Its all hoopla, and emotional persuasion (read coercion), and yes, egomaniacal flatulence.

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Hyde Schools / Requesting Parents' Assessment of Hyde School
« on: February 09, 2007, 08:42:21 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Quote from: ""Guest""
  Hey,

  If you think that oak table is still there, you were gone by '75.  Phil and his buddy lit a fire under the table in summer school '75.  
I met Phil B.  I knew he was crazy.  I don't know how the Hyde staff missed it.  I was told that they screen now. I have also been told that that is a lie.  I hear Hyde is admitting bi-polar kids and weening them off their meds.  They are damn lucky it has been 30+ years since some one has seriously endangered the other students.

Emil
Oh, but I do remember the fire.  For some reason, I thought the oak table survived it.  Guess not.

  You have got me wondering.  I assumed it was gone.  The fire involved that whole part of the mansion and Phil set the fire directly under the table.  The mansion was still being used as a dorm at that point.   It was luck that no one was killed.

Emil


It was very very thick oak.  It would all depend on when the fire was caught (how long it had a chance to burn).  Oak, despite being somewhat porous, is very very dense...

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Tacitus' Realm / Gardasil: Mandatory Vaccinations for PreTeen Girls in Tx
« on: February 09, 2007, 08:28:04 AM »
This vaccine hasn't been around a long time.   The fact that there appear to be no serious side effects does not mean that there aren't any.  Moreover, there are other causes for cervical cancer, although HBV is a major one.

I have a big issue with certain aspects of the vaccine industry to begin with.  The amount of vaccines now required for a child's first 6 years of life is unprecedented.  There has been no research determining what happens to a child's immune system when it is required to accommodate all these additional onslaughts on such a tight schedule.  It is not necessarily the vaccines themselves that I have a problem with.  It is the number per visit and the age of the child.  Some kids' immune system need a little more time.  And some vaccines... I'd like to be able to research them a bit more thoroughly and see what my options are.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Inner Harbor and my church
« on: February 09, 2007, 08:09:37 AM »
Hmmm... and what might constitute a "sexual behavior"?  And who is determining whether a "sexual behavior" occurred?

I can think of loads of circumstances where a kid might do something ill-advised, maybe even stupid, but with pretty harmless consequences, and to have that follow you around for the rest of your life, branded a sex offender?

Yikes.  Who is responsible for slipping this bill through "under suspension of the rules (i.e., without debate)"?

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Hyde Schools / Parents are warned about Hyde School by watchdog group
« on: February 09, 2007, 07:21:00 AM »
OOOOOO-K La Ho Maaa, where HIS Wind comes flushing 'way my brain...
 ::drummer::   ::bangin::   ::drummer::

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Yet Another CCM Girl Flaming Thread
« on: February 09, 2007, 04:29:56 AM »
Quote from: ""try another castle""
That's the craziest 180 I've ever seen in my life. Normally survivors go from "It was great --> it sucked". Not the other way around. It's like reverse-evolution or something. Oh wait... regression! How could I forget that word? :roll:

It makes me wonder how sincere she was originally, when she was allegedly critiquing the programs.

I dunno, but I find it ironic for her of all people to be talking about pulling yourself together.

I also think it's funny that she seems to think that 32 makes her the oldest person on the boards.  :D


It's not such a crazy 180 when you think about it this way:  CCM is needy, needy, needy, and amorally so.  When she got out, she looked to the community of survivors for solace and a sense of belonging.  As time went on, things changed.  She has a job, she works in the world and is, I am assuming, surrounded by people who are mostly NOT survivors.  From her pov, those people are more successful, and she would rather be identified with them and hence she had switched her choice of community.

I don't and never did know CCM, and I may be totally off base here.  But, from an "outsider's" viewpont it really looks to me like CCM's sense of self-identity is pretty shattered.  We're talking core damage here.  She talks a good game, acts like she is some authority speaking on behalf of fornits, but really,  there is no connection between her avowed passions and the seat of her soul. None. Pity her.

32 is old?  Lol.  Maybe I should change my username to "crone."

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Q?: New Horizons/Jacqueline Danforth/RMA
« on: February 09, 2007, 04:03:19 AM »
Re. "Vicky has a husband?" - note that the news item was from 1992... who knows, now.

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