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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Benchmark Young Adult School / Benchmark Transitions => Topic started by: Che Gookin on October 25, 2008, 09:00:27 AM
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Standby for epic news about epic program destruction......
I'm not gonna spill the beans but I promise you its good.
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OOH. I think I know what this is about!
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Of this I have no doubts.
blahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah..
there is a god... and he is a she.. and she is a hilarious stripper.
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Shoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooop DAAAA WHoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooop!
Stand by for epic program disembowelment...
D + 22 hours and counting...
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C'mon, man! The suspense is killing me!
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Here's a taster.
The court finds it difficult to classify Benchmark as it disclaims status as a school and does not have
credentialed teachers, yet also disclaims status as a residential treatment facility/program. As the parties
have used the terms "school" and "students" through.çut their documents, the court will adopt these terms,
but notes that use of the terms is for the reader's ease only and without factual support.
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another good bit:
After creating his website, Crawford sent an email to Longnecker at Benchmark on December 12, 2006, inviting her to review the website and advise him if it contained any inaccuracies stating: "I'd rather avoid the lawyers if at all possible. i am making an effort to be as accurate as possible and if for some reason i made a mistake i (sic) would rather have you correct me..." (Exh. 79.) Longnecker apparently did not respond to the email.
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Oh. And probably my favorite part of all (it's ginger's fave too, apparantly, as she pasted it to me while we were chatting earlier.
Benchmark contends that the alleged defamatory statements on Crawford's website have caused it to suffer a significant drop in new enrollments, from 51 in 2006, to 34 in 2007, and only 13 in 2008. As each enrollment is valued at approximately $60,000 per year, this translated into a substantial economic loss.
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statements on Crawford's website have caused [Benchmark] to suffer a significant drop in new enrollments, from 51 in 2006, to 34 in 2007, and only 13 in 2008. As each enrollment is valued at approximately $60,000 per year, this translated into a substantial economic loss.
:rasta: :hug: 8)
You da man! Hey, and lest we forget, Che put himself out there too. In retrospect, all things having come down the way they have, I surely wish I had jumped on that plane and been out there with you.
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I surely wish I had jumped on that plane and been out there with you.
It would have been great to have you (and your creative mind) there... I'm quite sure Benchmark would have loved you. But maybe next time. So which program is next? I dunno. Haven't been to a PFC protest yet. That sounds good for me. Maybe a PV protest with a bunch of us? Maybe protesting WWASP parent premier seminars, handing out info on what the whole thing is about?
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Another good quote... then I'll post a document if people ask pretty please.
Here, there is little doubt that schools (facilities, treatment centers, residential centers, etc.) where parents place their troubled children are a matter of public concern. Plaintiffs cannot make a serious argument against this proposition for to do so would negate the reason for their very existence. Indeed, Benchmark and "schools" like it are in existence because the public has found a need to find programs willing provide educational/emotional/social and other services to children, including those of legal majority, outside of the home. And the parties do not dispute the fact that the oversight of such facilities and protection of vulnerable youth is also a matter of public concern, prompting Legislative discussion, if not pending bills. Interpreting the First Amendment and section 425.16 in a manner 'favorable to the exercise of freedom of speech, not to its curtailment' (Briggs v. Eden Council for Hope & Opportunity, supra, 19 Cal.4th at p. 1119, fn. omitted), the discussion of Benchmark's program by a former student on a website, with warnings to prospective parents and students researching it and other locations, falls within the realm of public concern.
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You may have read the complaint (http://http://www.fornits.com/psy/Complaint.pdf)... but have you read my lawyer's response (http://http://www.fornits.com/psy/antiSlapp.pdf) yet? It's probably some of the best writing of any kind i've ever read. Brilliant, brilliant arguments, and they write it so it's simple for even a lay person to understand.
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the Decision:
http://www.fornits.com/psy/CrawfordRuling.pdf (http://www.fornits.com/psy/CrawfordRuling.pdf)
Verdict: I win, Benchmark loses.
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This is HUGE!
I want all the scardy cats who keep calling for us to calm down and not be so inflamatory to read this.
It's obvious from the tone of the judge's writing that it rankled him to admit it, but in the end YOU WERE RIGHT and WE, by extension, are RIGHT about this. Keep on raisin hell, folks! At the very least, you might give Miller Newton another heart attack!
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Congrats! :trophy:
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Congratulations, psy!!! You, my friend, are on a R-O-L-L !!!
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Benchmark contends that the alleged defamatory statements on Crawford's website have caused it to suffer a significant drop in new enrollments, from 51 in 2006, to 34 in 2007, and only 13 in 2008. As each enrollment is valued at approximately $60,000 per year, this translated into a substantial economic loss.
How can this be factually attributed to any one person alone? Many programs have experienced decrease in enrollment starting as early as a year ago. Several of these have, moreover, since then...closed. Someone posted on the Hyde forum last year that enrollment had dropped significantly since the year before...I think it was about 25%.
Economic crisis? Or, growing awareness amongst the consumer set? An awareness which is brought about in no small way by sites such as psy's, forums, blogs, etc. etc. ...not to mention that it was a hot topic legislatively last year, no small thanks to George Miller and all involved... Probably some combination of all the above. It might be key to strike while the iron is hot, and capitalize on the current larger momentum.
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Glad to hear the judge did the right thing!
Are you able to request that Benchmark compensate you for your legal fees?
The http://www.fornits.com/psy/CrawfordRuling.pdf' (http://www.fornits.com/psy/CrawfordRuling.pdf') link has an apostrophe at the end of it that is preventing it from working.
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i AM Happy 4 u psy. But, why did you decide to call it a school in the first place?
Here's a taster.
The court finds it difficult to classify Benchmark as it disclaims status as a school and does not have
credentialed teachers, yet also disclaims status as a residential treatment facility/program. As the parties
have used the terms "school" and "students" through.çut their documents, the court will adopt these terms,
but notes that use of the terms is for the reader's ease only and without factual support.
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@DDFugue: yeah, I noticed that extra little wisp too... This works (29 pp):
http://www.fornits.com/psy/CrawfordRuling.pdf (http://www.fornits.com/psy/CrawfordRuling.pdf)
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Re. the "lawyers' response" (psy's link from the previous page). There are three pages of cases, statutes, laws, etc. referenced in this work (and nicely organized right in the introductory section) that are an incredible resource should a program or similar try this again.
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statements on Crawford's website have caused [Benchmark] to suffer a significant drop in new enrollments, from 51 in 2006, to 34 in 2007, and only 13 in 2008. As each enrollment is valued at approximately $60,000 per year, this translated into a substantial economic loss.
:rasta: :hug: 8)
You da man! Hey, and lest we forget, Che put himself out there too. In retrospect, all things having come down the way they have, I surely wish I had jumped on that plane and been out there with you.
I fugging wish you had gotten on th plane to you dirty old bird! I never did get any money back for that canceled plane ticket I bought you. Though.. lest we forget this moment is all psy's. He did the leg work, he suffered the anal pucker, and he deserves all of the props.
Now off with me I've an article to write.. yellow journalism at its finest. :shamrock:
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Oh Hell Yes!
Why didn't anybody send me an e-mail or something?, this is great news. HOORAH!!!!
So many good things are happening, it is amazing. This is a big win Psy.
Scheff lost, Benchmark lost, SLS shut down by a Federal Judge, CEDU spinoff in Texas closed down....... I mean the good news is pouring in lately! What will they do when they realize they can't intimidate us anymore?
The Hephzibah girls are wooping up on HH in Indiana and I am pretty sure there is very good news about KHK (although not 100% sure) They are hurting bad.
If I wore a hat, it would be off to you Psy. And even though I think the gookin is a double-agent for the industry, I was glad to see him protest with you. Good job standing up to Benchmark! Keep doing what you are doing!
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Micheal, you are da man! Nice to see the good guys win one.
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Re. the "lawyers' response" (psy's link from the previous page). There are three pages of cases, statutes, laws, etc. referenced in this work (and nicely organized right in the introductory section) that are an incredible resource should a program or similar try this again.
I'd really like to highlight this. They did a fantastic job, and I would recommend anybody who speaks out about programs to have a read (not too much legalese, very easy to read, extremely well written, filled with knowledge).
http://fornits.com/psy/antiSlapp.pdf (http://fornits.com/psy/antiSlapp.pdf)
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Oh Hell Yes!
Why didn't anybody send me an e-mail or something?, this is great news. HOORAH!!!!
Well. I'm working on something to announce it formally. This is sort of a "preview". Thanks everybody for your congratulations, btw.