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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: kumquatmay on November 15, 2007, 11:18:34 AM
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I am up in Montana and yesterday removed my son from the YBGR program. My son had been placed on an “individual security planâ€
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Did you bring a camera?
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Yes, I used my cell phone camera.
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Was he court ordered?
I'm just curious. DOnt tell me if youre not comfortable
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Please upload pics to http://www.imageshack.us/ (http://www.imageshack.us/) and provide a link to them.
Public exposure works.
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I'll have to wait until I get home before I can up load pictures. He was placed at YBGR because of his school district and the County Health Services.
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Yay!!!! Thanks for the good news, I'm so happy for you and your kid. Goodluck...
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I am up in Montana and yesterday removed my son from the YBGR program. My son had been placed on an “individual security planâ€
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Wow! It is hard to believe that two weeks have passed since I brought my son home from YBGR. Life has been unrelenting. My son seems surprisingly ok (so far)… obviously, he is very happy to be back safe at home. When we arrived back in California, I took him to be examined by his pediatrician, who was shocked by the substantial head trauma and bruising on my son’s body. The doctor was very concerned about concussion and internal injuries. He referred us to several other specialists for further tests. Fortunately, none of the injuries caused permanent damage. Tomorrow my son is going back to his psychiatrist to continue sorting out the various medications he was prescribed.
Another complication, I am facing serious legal repercussions from our school district for removing my son from the placement. The district has filed for a hearing in court and is attempting to send my son to Devereux-Cleo Wallace in Colorado. I said no way in hell is my son going to a place where three kids have already died. As a special education student and the result of being disruptive and disrespectful during 8th grade, my son cannot attend his high school until he has been “successfulâ€
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Wow! It is hard to believe that two weeks have passed since I brought my son home from YBGR. Life has been unrelenting. My son seems surprisingly ok (so far)… obviously, he is very happy to be back safe at home. When we arrived back in California, I took him to be examined by his pediatrician, who was shocked by the substantial head trauma and bruising on my son’s body. The doctor was very concerned about concussion and internal injuries. He referred us to several other specialists for further tests. Fortunately, none of the injuries caused permanent damage. Tomorrow my son is going back to his psychiatrist to continue sorting out the various medications he was prescribed.
Another complication, I am facing serious legal repercussions from our school district for removing my son from the placement. The district has filed for a hearing in court and is attempting to send my son to Devereux-Cleo Wallace in Colorado. I said no way in hell is my son going to a place where three kids have already died. As a special education student and the result of being disruptive and disrespectful during 8th grade, my son cannot attend his high school until he has been “successfulâ€
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...I'm still calling troll. Too much program-ese, and now we're to believe that your school district is absolutely determined to send your kid to a hellhole where you have photographic evidence of abuse? Where in the fuck do you live?
Pics or it isn't real.
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I am sure they are worried that I will litigate against them. At the last IEP meeting all of the agencies had their attorneys out in force. Especially since they were faced with the all of the publicity about the abuse allegations and YBGR’s attempted cover-up. I feel that the School District should have been much more conscientious and thorough. Instead they seemed more aligned with the RTC, viewing my son as the problem. There seems to be no accountability for these kinds of places simply because their victims are kids in treatment. Any claims of abuse are immediately discounted and given little or no credibility because the source is devalued. In spite of all of the physical evidence, my son’s letter to his attorney was considered a lie and a manipulation.
I may file suit, but my true aim is to obtain a quality education in a supportive environment for my son. He just wants to go back to school with his friends.
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What kind of pictures are you looking for? Pictures of my son's face or throat with the bruises? No way!
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I may file suit, but my true aim is to obtain a quality education in a supportive environment for my son. He just wants to go back to school with his friends.
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Troll or you're completely out of your fucking mind, and it's always so hard to tell on Fornits.
Free hint: If you're determined to send your kid back to a school that wants to toss him into the nearest hellhole regardless of evidence, YOU, too, have a serious problem.
Forget it. If this is in the least bit real, you're not going to get a quality education unless you pull him out of there. At this point, private school or homeschooling are your only real choices right now, coupled with a mondo lawsuit.
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What kind of pictures are you looking for? Pictures of my son's face or throat with the bruises? No way!
That doesn't jibe with what you said earlier:
I'll have to wait until I get home before I can up load pictures.
Seems like you didn't have a problem with it before you decided to continue the troll, hm?
gb/2/ST
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I think home schooling is my only option. As a special education student, my son’s cumulative file is vast and will follow him to every school. He has been turned down by several private schools because of the negative reports and publicity surrounding him. As far as where I live, I am in Orange County, CA. There aren’t very many quality options nearby.
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Another complication, I am facing serious legal repercussions from our school district for removing my son from the placement. The district has filed for a hearing in court and is attempting to send my son to Devereux-Cleo Wallace in Colorado. I said no way in hell is my son going to a place where three kids have already died. As a special education student and the result of being disruptive and disrespectful during 8th grade, my son cannot attend his high school until he has been “successfulâ€
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Your advice makes alot of sense. Do you just email the statement to ISACcorp?
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Your advice makes alot of sense. Do you just email the statement to ISACcorp?
I would contact Shelby directly via the site. From what I've been told, she is very kind and approachable, and will walk you through the particulars. Contact info for the site:
"Due to the volume of email we receive, it may be 2-3 days before we reply to your message."
Phone number available by request.
Email:
http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsam.asp (http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsam.asp)
Here is a copy of their document policy:
It is understood that all rebuttals sent to ISAC Corp will be considered a matter of public interest and record. The individual or organization submitting the rebuttal understands that their rebuttal is subject to publication by ISAC Corporation on its internet site, in original reports, and any other publication issued by ISAC.[/u]
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You think contacting the ASTART lady might help? She may have some good info on how to keep the school district from forcing this mum's child into an rtc.
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This morning, I was served papers with notice of a scheduled due process hearing. Our school district and county health care agency are appealing to the State of California to enforce my son’s placement at Devereux-Cleo Wallace without parental consent. This is all new for me, but I am stunned at how overwhelmingly abrupt the petition was set forth. Basically, it was “we know what this child needs, the parent is misguided and irresponsible for disagreeing with us, give us the authority to place the child regardless of what the parent thinks is best.â€
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I will recommend that you take contact to a journalist who you invite into your home so he or she can see the situation in person.
Make sure that the journalist sees the papers from your local doctor and get links to the very many webpages about the dangers of face down restraints.
If the court decides against you, then make a funeral arrangement out of it. Get the journalist to take pictures and write the story so it will be a story about a mother saying the last farewell to her son (which of course could be the case if he is sent there. You could say that this place has a reputation of failure with its past history.)
You need the help from the public and in order to get it, they need a story about a boy about being sent to his death.
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Lord, woman! You need to get cracking immediately!! Get yourself lawyered up!! TODAY!!!
Face it: Life sucks. People suck. The state of California and its Board of Education suck. And life is unfair. Now, onto what you really need to focus on...
Call a local women's advocacy group in your area for advice. They may know or be able to point you in the right direction as to what you need to do next, and who you need to contact... Tell your story to anyone who will listen, but don't waste your time too much. The first people you will probably deal with may be volunteers, and may or may not have the info you need or be in a position to help you, but they will be in a better position to get you to the people who can.
Your area may have a legal advocacy hotline that you can call for advice. These are typically staffed by law school students, but they have lists of attorneys who can sometimes advise you over the phone, or be able to give free or low-cost assistance. These people will know more about "the process" in your local area, and you will be better armed with expectations beforehand, not to mention being in a better position to focus your efforts constructively.
Contact your local school district about homeschooling requirements and what you need to do to start that process ASAP. Never mind that these are the same people that are trying to get your son sent to Devereux-Cleo Wallace. You probably will not be talking to the same exact people. Take notes of your phone call, make sure you note who you are talking to. Get that ball rolling. I can not over stress the importance of this.
Find a homeschooling program that you can live with, and order it. Some programs have parents in your local area that you can talk to about their experiences with said program. If you can present evidence at the hearing that you are dealing proactively with the situation, you will be able to delay and hopefully stymie the efforts of the school district and county health care agency to override your parental rights. If the hearing is before the materials arrive, print out some stuff from the respective homeschooling website(s) and bring it with you. At the very least, you may be able to buy some time. You need to disprove or, at the very least, throw some serious doubt on their position of "we know what this child needs, the parent is misguided and irresponsible for disagreeing with us, give us the authority to place the child regardless of what the parent thinks is best."
Solidify your evidence. Get your statement onto ISACCorp's site. Have hard copies of your photos ready for the hearing. Get a statement from your child's physician if you can.
Basically you need to deal with this both proactively and defensively. Your primary approach should be on the offensive, more or less in order:- Your son does NOT do well with highly structured and controlling formats, and it is clear -- now -- that home schooling will be in his best interests.
- You have come to the conclusion that home schooling is the best option based on his past behavior in the local school district, coupled with events that transpired when he was placed at Yellowstone.
- Here are the steps you have taken thus far to undertake that course]You feel that -- as your son's mother -- you are in a better position than the local school district to access what is in the best interests of your son, especially given their past decisions (?) and lack of oversight during your son's stay at Yellowstone. Here is where you pull out the statement from your kid's doctor, the photos, the statement you submitted to ISACCorp that you felt compelled to make given your outrage over the injustices he suffered there.
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DO NOTE THIS: As horrible and unbelievable as it may seem, the folks presiding over this hearing will be a lot less interested in the incompetence of the school board and what transpired at Yellowstone, than they are in seeing what you are currently doing and planning to do in the future with regard to what is in the best interests of your son.
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what seems to be transpiring here is an unbelievable impostion of state upon the private sector. it amazes me, that the state is incapble of protceting children in cult like torture facilities, but is attatching itself to this case like a barnacle.
Are you poor or black, kum? This is so the opposite of what is generally the concern. I would start posting all over the internet about this. NAME NAMES.
Also contact cafety. Isac only has one woman working for it. Cafety is much cabable of helping you with this, i think. And there has to be alot of other people you can contact...the situation is incredibley violating
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Thank you for your wise guidance and insight. Your recommended steps are truly helpful ways I can get into action. I already have an experienced lawyer involved and she will be taking a very aggressive stance given the blatant child abuse that occurred during the last placement. Pro-actively initiating home schooling seems like a very smart choice. I find this entire state of affairs astounding and spiraling out of control. The saddest part is that this seems to be much more an issue of power than concern for the welfare of my child.
When I took my son to see his psychiatrist yesterday, we discussed the entire situation in depth. The terrible experiences he had at Yellowstone, the ways that he is coping with returning home and the pain of a reality in which his school district is trying to send him to another (even scarier) RTC. At least he knows that I am unwavering in my commitment to keep him safe here at home. Again, thank you for being so supportive.
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Thank you for your beautiful display of motherly devotion. Somethng we see al too rarely, round here. Contact cafety...Can anyone else chime on on who's good to contact?
hell, even try caica- the woman who runs that place is corrupt, i hear, but if she can be helpful in terms of getting the word out about what is being done to you, well, the enemy of your enemy is your freind. Contact Psy, a regular. He's knwledgable and helpful,,,,,contact everyone
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The parent says she's working with the child's shrink and an attorney. Why the heck would she need to contact IZZY at Caica? Izzy and he cohort Sue-Sue might refer her to another, "safer, kinder, gentler program" and have an escort pick this kid up immediately!
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This parent is in the know and won't send her kid off. It wasnt her decision to send him away in the first place. This is a vulnerable person being mis-used by the state, not a neglectful program parent who got hoodwinked. It's a different beast being fought. I think she should use every resourse available to her, ya know?
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Thank you for your wise guidance and insight. Your recommended steps are truly helpful ways I can get into action. I already have an experienced lawyer involved and she will be taking a very aggressive stance given the blatant child abuse that occurred during the last placement. Pro-actively initiating home schooling seems like a very smart choice. I find this entire state of affairs astounding and spiraling out of control. The saddest part is that this seems to be much more an issue of power than concern for the welfare of my child.
When I took my son to see his psychiatrist yesterday, we discussed the entire situation in depth. The terrible experiences he had at Yellowstone, the ways that he is coping with returning home and the pain of a reality in which his school district is trying to send him to another (even scarier) RTC. At least he knows that I am unwavering in my commitment to keep him safe here at home. Again, thank you for being so supportive.
WHEW!!! Glad you lawyered up!! You need another pair of eyes with you on the road, especially one that is familiar with these specific twists and turns.
Having your child's physician, psychiatrist, and a lawyer in your corner, not to mention the hard evidence of what transpired at Yellowstone, will stand you in good stead. It is so important to have other voices there along with your own -- particularly if they are lettered ones -- when doing battle with these conformist and control-oriented bureaucratic monoliths. I've been told that California is now 43rd in terms of education, is this true? Given what you are currently going through, this does not surprise me as much as I thought it would.
I think the suggestion(s) to use every resource available is a good one, but you might also want to prioritize given the amount of time you have available. Your attorney may also be more savvy as to which things are most important prior to the hearing, given her experience with the local nuances of your county school board.
Do keep us updated as to how things turn out.