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Aspen Education Group / Aspen Ranch, Mt. Bachelor, etc.
« on: December 05, 2002, 11:37:00 AM »
Didn't Mt. Bachelor and the Aspen-named facilities start life as CEDU programs?  When were they picked up by Aspen Education?  Is that an umbrella actually _under_ CEDU?

Sara
Amity Founding Class, 1988



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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / For Immediate Post And Release .Please Read
« on: December 03, 2002, 08:54:00 PM »
If you have a statement to make about your time in any program staff or not Type it out SIGN IT


Need clarification.  _Any_ program or any program directly descended from Straight?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Dark Rivers of the Heart
« on: November 28, 2002, 01:49:00 AM »
I say, let the government look in on me.  I'm a red-blooded American - I've got nothing to hide.


Uh.  No.

I am not willing to fork over my civil liberties just so some gang of fools, too lazy to be bothered to take care of their own business--let alone stand up for themselves, for what's right, and for what's guaranteed them by the Constitution--can slip further into the drooling, contented coma of their own false sense of security.

I'm sorry you don't feel the same, Anony.

With a nod to George Carlin,

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I feel like....................SIT DOWN
« on: November 26, 2002, 12:41:00 AM »
I saw this when I was researching the genealogy of CEDU and how it is related to Straight:  Amity School Founding Class, 1988

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Who's making it and how?
« on: November 25, 2002, 02:21:00 PM »
Clay:  Might be JAVA, though it didn't prompt me.  Cookies were actually on at the time because I'd been fiddling at neopets.  Yes, neopets.  :razz:

Alex:  I don't think Tiny is made anymore, is it?  Seems to me I heard that a while back.  I don't know much about it anyway.  Sygate and ZoneAlarm both have free versions, and they aren't terrible.  Still, a fair lot of their stealthy stuff is only available in the "pro" versions.  You could give them a whirl; can't hurt to try.  Or, if you're into that sort of thing, there's always Kazaa.

Learn more about port scans:  Tech Target

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988

[edited: that long url wouldn't post properly.]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / BONFIRE INVITATION FOR ALL
« on: November 25, 2002, 12:54:00 AM »
I'm thinking it's 6 hours from Richmond, VA, to Newark, NJ.  Upstate New York should be another 2 hours, give or take.  Of course, a lot of this depends on exactly wheresvilleburg in VA.  Places like Richmond are easy to get to; Appalachia isn't.

Also, are there train stations at each end of the trip?  That might be something to consider.

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988

[edited: spelling error]


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / the DFAF forum is up and running and can accept posts. . .
« on: November 23, 2002, 03:39:00 PM »
Hey FK,

I think BTU simply affords parents who've had kids in a program (more) credibility than alumni of a program.  Woodbury has similar leaning.

I told them (both) years ago that that sort of thinking was incredibly short-sighted and fostered extreme bias.  If they desired honesty and open discourse (as they've each said out of the _other_ sides of their mouths), they needed to deal with their tendency to patronize alumni.  I asked if they did, in fact, have a game-plan for the inevitable time when ex-kids were no longer scattered whispers of a few teens and twentysomethings, but the brassy cacophony of so many 30 and 40-year-olds.  Never received a response; not surprised.

Can't blame a girl for trying, though, right?

Sara
30-year-old Amity kid

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Who's making it and how?
« on: November 23, 2002, 03:17:00 AM »
Huh.  Well.  The site simply wouldn't load anything beyond the index, here.  I tried to access all of the items in the left menu, but the buttons kept disappearing as I clicked down the list, and browser behaved as though no action had been performed.  Taskman showed no subversive launches; firewall had nothing to say to me; no record of any mischief logged; no system or browser freezes or hangs.

Win XP Pro
IE 6 [most options "prompt me"]
NPF 2002 [moderately paranoid and chatty about it]
Panicware Pop-up Stopper [enabled]


Dunno what to tell you, guys.  Something I've got set must be keeping whatever it is they're doing totally at bay.  Score one for the home team, I guess.

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Sexual Abuse at Carolina Springs Academy
« on: November 20, 2002, 02:53:00 AM »
Hmm.  I wonder... Why can't the child protective services in Abbeville County, SOUTH Carolina be in on this?  As far as I can tell, that's where the CSA facility is and where the abuse allegedly(*) took/is taking place.

Abbeville County Department of Social Services  
903 West Greenwood St.
Abbeville SC 29620
(864) 459-5481
Hrs: Mon-Fri 8:00am-5:00pm  

Good luck, FK.  Wish I'd had someone like you on my side when I was 16.

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988


(* Not implied disbelief; just covering my... :smile: )

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / More photos of group???
« on: November 18, 2002, 12:56:00 PM »
Heya AlexL,

Unfortunately, I haven't found any other scans from the Nat'l Geographic article you guys want, nor a transcript of it.  Google had a few matches when I searched there; mostly back issues that are for sale in some shops.  eBay also has a couple currently at auction, here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1585358623

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1584323120

Good thinking, but can't get to the image at the Y! Group; I'm not a Straight Alumni, and wouldn't want to invade their space over there.  :smile:  If it's the same as what's on Wes' site, I can grab it from that.

Stumbled onto a lukewarm lead for Michele McDonald, the freelancer who worked at the Norfolk Ledger-Star in '87, and took the photo in question.  Apparently, she "done good" for herself; a Pulitzer finalist a few years ago, yadda yadda.  Very cool.  Anyway, she has a site, but it's about a year outdated:  http://www.michelemcdonald.com/main.html

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988

Edited to add:
P.S.  What was originally on the wall where the US and Chinese flags now are in that image?


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / More photos of group???
« on: November 17, 2002, 10:56:00 PM »
Quote:

The National Geographic photo is quite shocking!


Life 82, Did you see the eBay link I posted yesterday in another thread?  There were a few copies of that Nat'l Geo issue for sale/at auction cheap.
Quote:

Was the Fager photo taken by the media or is it from a personal collection?


Not personal collection; that's scanned newsprint, for sure.  There's also a slug beneath it:  Straight-Springfield, July 1987. Photo by Michele McDonald, Norfolk Ledger-Star. Flags added by ed.

Well... That isn't so, _so_ old and there's plenty of info to research against.  I'd just about bet the original article is in an archives somewhere.  Norfolk, VA, public library main branch?

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / the DFAF forum is up and running and can accept posts. . .
« on: November 17, 2002, 08:47:00 PM »
Just a bit of totally unsolicited advice from me:

Be careful over there and exercise extreme diplomacy.  I know, sounds flippin' ridiculous, huh?  Don't kill the messenger; I'm only speaking from experience gained as one of the first "kids" to post in such places as Bridge to Understanding.  It's reasonably likely that DFAF, too, will broadly ban disgruntled alumni and censor anything they perceive as even vaguely negative if they start receiving angry, anti-program posts.

In the end, you probably won't be able to get the truth about DFAF and its ilk posted over there, but if you're hyper-diplomatic, I'm sure you could pull off, at the very least, persuading some of curious/struggling parents and long lost alumni over here... Where free speech is embraced.  I'd shoot for that, personally.  Got a good chance at it.  Though I probably would _not_ publically post this forum's url (probably send that out via e-mail).

Good luck, you guys.  Go get 'em!  :smile:

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / More photos of group???
« on: November 17, 2002, 05:15:00 PM »
If Wes hasn't got an unaltered copy of the image, send the one as it appears to me.  Provided nobody has a copyright beef with my doing so, I'd be happy to retouch it, no prob.

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Genealogy of Straight, CEDU, WWASP
« on: November 17, 2002, 05:07:00 PM »
Ahh, next year's conference should be the last weekend in July?  Cool--That gives me 8-odd months to save up!  :smile:

Sara
Amity School Founding Class, 1988

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Genealogy of Straight, CEDU, WWASP
« on: November 17, 2002, 03:02:00 AM »
Quote:

Sounds like your program in Italy is a distant cousin but shares unmistakable family genes.



Yep, that's what I've read/heard and now suspect.  I swear, the more I learn about the programs that came before mine, the more incestuous the entire industry seems!

Quote:

I for one welcome your posts and your presence here.



Thanks.  I appreciate it.  :smile:

Sara
Amity Founding Class, 1988

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