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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / HISTORIC MEETING, 7/21-22, Bethesda, MD
« on: July 02, 2001, 01:56:50 AM »
Specialists in addiction, social work and drug policy.


For complete details, please see The Trebach Report - conference information and registration page at

http://trebach.org/conference-info.html
Send questions and comments to [email protected]


Thank you,

-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
http://trebach.org/conference.html'>Saving our Children from Drug Treatment Abuse


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / New items at Anonanon in the last two days
« on: July 01, 2001, 09:59:40 PM »
New items at Anonanon in the last two days
5 articles found. Listing 1 through 5


1. Accounts Put Darker Cloud Over Camp -

2001-07-05 By MICHAEL JANOFSKY Source: New York Times - Front Page! MOUNTAIN HILLS, Ariz., July 4 ? As the investigation

continued today into the death of a 14-year-old boy at a desert boot camp for troubled youth, other campers told of abusive treatment they said they

had suffered at the
http://www.prospect.org/ Author: Maia

Szalavitz Contact: http://www.prospect.org/authors/szal
http://nospank.org/boot.htm By Armelle Vincent Arriola June 2001 Slavish discipline makes a slavish temper... If severity

carry'd to the highest pitch does prevail, and works
http://forNITS.com/anonanon/peaars.cgi?fetch=382'>Full Text

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-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
http://trebach.org/conference.html'>Saving our Children from Drug Treatment Abuse


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Yeeeeee Haaaawwwwww!!
« on: July 01, 2001, 05:18:24 PM »
Yeeeeee Haaaawwwwww!!
New York Times article

[link=http://www.prospect.org/print/V12/6/szalavitz-m.html]Why Jesus is Not a Regulator[/link]



by Maia Szalavitz


One of the primary goals of President George W. Bush's new White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives is "to eliminate unnecessary legislative, regulatory, and other bureaucratic barriers that impede effective faith-based and other community efforts to solve social problems." Bush has said that America needs more "faith-based treatment" for addiction and juvenile delinquency and that he would like to "promote alternative licensing regimes to recognize religious training as an alternative form of qualification."


Bad idea. Even leaving aside the dubious constitutionality of government financial support for religious services, deregulation is a recipe for disaster. Recent experience shows why.


Over the last 10 years, more than two dozen teenagers have died in so-called "tough love" rehabilitation facilities that use violent confrontation and exposure to primitive living conditions as a means to a cure.


[link=http://www.prospect.org/print/V12/6/szalavitz-m.html]Full Text[/link]


Some days it just all seems worth it!  

-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
http://trebach.org/conference.html'>Saving our Children from Drug Treatment Abuse


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Betty Sembler in action
« on: May 01, 2001, 02:58:15 PM »
Betty Sembler in action
This is old news from 06/11/1998, but I just found it and stuffed it into the archive. Greg Scott spoke at that conference in Tampa. You think what the Program has done to us to save us from ourselves is horrendous? Get up to speed on what these same lunatics are doing to some others and how they're going about doing it!

http://www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/1998-06-11/news.html'>Infuriating the Joint A public seminar on the evils of marijuana. An activist claiming pot saved                his life. Someone was arrested.

If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them whether they need it or not.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / John Walters showing his true colors
« on: May 01, 2001, 08:00:18 PM »
John Walters showing his true colors


Pubdate: Tue, 06 Mar 2001

Source: Weekly Standard, The (US)

Copyright: 2001 The Weekly Standard

Contact: www.weeklystandard.com/

Author: John P. Walters

Note: John P. Walters, president of the Philanthropy Roundtable,

was deputy director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy

during the previous Bush administration.


DRUG WARS


Just Say No . . . To Treatment Without Law Enforcement


THE WAR ON CRIME AND DRUGS is rapidly losing ground to the war on punishment and prisons. Recently, Newsweek featured Robert Downey Jr. on the cover, along with a series of articles and essays on the drug problem with the general theme that law enforcement and incarceration don't work and that we need to embrace treatment and new treatment drugs. But Downey only seems to get treated for his addiction when he is forced to by the criminal justice system. Indeed, it's hard to imagine a worse advertisement for the effectiveness of drug treatment than Robert Downey Jr.


The therapy-only lobby is alive and well and more dogmatic than ever. If it weren't for the ideology associated with treatment -- addiction is a disease, not a pattern of behavior for which people can be held responsible -- law enforcement and punishment would be natural partners of the treatment providers (remember Marion Barry, whose treatment followed his arrest). The evidence is that coerced treatment works at least as well as voluntary treatment, and it has long been a staple of effective treatment programs that the addict must take responsibility for himself.


Newsweek makes much of the promise of new wonder drugs for treatment, but what new anti-drug drug is likely to work substantially better than the drugs we have to block tobacco craving ("the patch" and "the gum") and the medication we have to make alcohol consumption a sickening experience for alcoholics? These are useful tools, but there are still many smokers and alcoholics. If anything, the trend of anti-drinking and anti-smoking efforts today is to criminalize certain aspects of use and to attack availability.


What really drives the battle against law enforcement and punishment, however, is not a commitment to treatment, but the widely held view that (1) we are imprisoning too many people for merely possessing illegal drugs, (2) drug and other criminal sentences are too long and harsh, and (3) the criminal justice system is unjustly punishing young black men. These are among the great urban myths of our time.


According to the most current data, in 1997 only 8.8 percent of the 1,046,705 individuals in state prisons were there for drug possession. Drug trafficking offenses accounted for 11.3 percent of those imprisoned; property offenses 22 percent; and violent crimes 47.2 percent. Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, violent crimes vastly outpaced drug offenses as the cause of the prison population's rapid growth. The situation at the federal level is even more lopsided. In fiscal year 1999, just 2.2 percent of federal drug convictions were for simple possession.


And even these numbers overstate the incarceration rate for drug possession. Although we do not know for sure how many of those sentenced for a drug possession conviction were actually traffickers who were allowed to plead guilty to a lesser charge, or repeat offenders whose record put them in prison for their most recent offense, or both, the available data suggest the numbers are very large indeed. In fiscal year 1999, the U.S. Sentencing Commission reports that 94.2 percent of the 20,893 federal drug offenders had pleaded guilty, usually to a lesser charge. Moreover, federal law contains a "bypass" provision to allow low-level, nonviolent offenders to avoid mandatory minimum sentences. The idea that our prisons are filled with people whose only offense was possession of an illegal drug is utter fantasy.


But are prison sentences too long? With the sharp drop in crime, have we made criminal punishment too harsh? In the Winter 2001 issue of the Public Interest, Paul H. Robinson argues that we have. Even Robinson acknowledges, however, that there is considerably less to the drop in crime than conventional wisdom would suggest. He notes that "the declining crime rate of the last eight years would have to continue unbroken for another three decades before we returned to the crime levels the Baby Boomers enjoyed as children." And consider this: Americans are still more likely to experience what statisticians call "violent victimization" than to be injured in a car crash.


Nonetheless, Robinson argues that longer sentences and "three strikes" laws are unjust because they pursue a policy of incapacitating criminals under the "cloak" of punishment. They punish offenders not just for what they have done, but also for what they are viewed as likely to do in the future. But Robinson makes too little of the fact that incapacitation -- protecting the public from criminals, particularly repeat offenders -- has almost always been one of the goals of punishment in our criminal justice system.


The most recent data, moreover, reveal how limited has been the "success" of incapacitation: In 1997, 46.6 percent of state prisoners had been on probation or parole when they were arrested for the offense for which they were serving time. The same data also indicate that 91.1 percent of state prisoners were violent or repeat offenders or both.


Neither is it true that the prison population is disproportionately made up of young black men. Crime, after all, is not evenly distributed throughout society. It is common knowledge that the suburbs are safer than the inner city, though we are not supposed to mention it. In 1998, of the 7,276 murders in the United States that involved a single offender and a single victim, 5,133 of the victims were male and 3,309 were black.


According to the FBI, 3,565 of the offenders in these murder cases were black, and 3,067 of the murders involved both a black victim and a black offender. In 1998, black males between the ages of 14 and 17 were almost 6 times more likely than white males to be victims of murder or non-negligent manslaughter; black males between 18 and 24 were over 8 times more likely to be victims; and for those 25 and over, black males were murder victims at a rate 7.6 times that of white males. Whether one looks at murder, violent crime in general, or drug trafficking, criminals overwhelmingly victimize people like themselves.


It should be obvious, then, who will be harmed most if fewer violent and repeat offenders and drug traffickers are punished and sentences are substantially reduced. Though some who call for such reforms have the best of intentions, they recommend a course not of compassion but of cruelty. Instead of retreating from punishment, we should be contemplating the limited demographic window before us: By 2010, the population between the ages of 15 and 17, just entering the most crime-prone years, will be 31 percent larger than it was in 1990. Now is our chance to make prevention and enforcement work.


If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them whether they need it or not.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Archive
« on: June 01, 2001, 02:30:33 PM »
Archive
http://fornits.com/coolboard/'>Straight Survivors Archive


I just put Todd's backup together. There's one bug that I know of. The link to the last page is one digit higher than the number of files actually there. The coder was counting from 1 while the machine counted from 0. But we were able to grab all the smiley guys, rip out all the advertising and all that.  

-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
http://trebach.org/conference.html'>Saving our Children from Drug Treatment Abuse


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Action Alerts
« on: August 01, 2001, 08:24:22 PM »
Action Alerts
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / NYT - Propaganda machine in full swing
« on: May 01, 2001, 02:30:49 PM »
NYT - Propaganda machine in full swing
Those of ya'll who joined us in Orlando last November might remember seeing a couple of people in a small white sedan with the Covenant House logo on the side visiting SAFE on some business on that Open Meeting night.


Well, here we have CH & John Mica propagating the myth of marijuana addiction and promoting a place called Another Chance*. So what does this mean? Did the CH people read the material, maybe watch the video that we gave them and, maybe, disassociate themselves from Loretta Parish? Is that why she's in dire financial straits? Or is Another Chance maybe just another mind-rape mill?


* [email protected]

Website: www.nytimes.com/www.mapinc.org/media/298

Section: National

Author: Dana Canedy


ORLANDO GLITTER HIDES DARK SIDE OF YOUNG DRUG USERS


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Arnitra Johnson can imagine the rush of riding one of the  roller coasters at Disney World. She has never been to any of the theme  parks here, but she thinks the thrill must be the same as the high she used  to get from marijuana and Ecstasy.


"Ecstasy, that's the talk of the town," said Ms. Johnson, an 18-year- old  who lived until recently in the local Covenant House, a shelter for  homeless youths. "It makes you feel good, see different colors."


That is the Orlando Ms. Johnson knows, one in which the bright colors come  not from the lights and the fireworks at the tourist attractions but from  life in a drug haze, on the streets. It is the Orlando that millions of  tourists drive obliviously through every year on their way to fun and fantasy.


Ms. Johnson represents the most extreme example of how the image and the  reality of this playground city can be worlds apart. While Orlando is no  doubt a great place for young people to visit, it is not a great place for  many of them who come here on their own to live, say experts on the city's  social problems.


Rich from tourism dollars, Orlando is virtually synonymous with family fun.  In many ways it is an ideal city, with well-maintained municipal services  and facilities, decent schools and an economy that is diversifying into  high-technology industries. But the city also has a high rate of teenage  heroin use, and government officials and drug counselors say the area has  also been struggling with the rising popularity of club drugs like Ecstasy,  taken in pill form, and GHB, a liquid sedative.


Orange County, which encompasses Orlando, has among the highest rate of  teenage pregnancy and uninsured youngsters in Florida. Nearly 40 of every  1,000 girls 15 through 17 in the county become pregnant compared with 35  statewide and 32 nationwide, according to Florida Kids Count, a project of  the University of South Florida in Tampa. And 28 percent of the children  under 18 have no health insurance, compared with a state average of 22.3  percent and a national average of 15.6 percent, the Orange County  Department of Health says.


The percentage of children living in poverty in the county, 22.3 percent,  is in line with the state average of 22 percent and the national average of  21 percent. But experts on social issues say the perception is that  everyone here has money to spend on cotton candy and stuffed animals.


"You go to Disney World and everything is orderly and clean and perfect,"  said Dr. Irwin Redlener, president of the Children's Health Fund in New  York, which provides health care to poor children nationwide and operates  mobile medical clinics that offer free treatment in inner-city  neighborhoods and at centers like Covenant House. "But if you go to the  center of Orlando it is the absolute opposite." Referring to Orlando's  neediest youngsters, Dr. Redlener said, "Mickey Mouse is not going to help  them."


Ms. Johnson, who recently received her first physical examination in years  at the mobile clinic and now lives on her own, knows that to be true. "I've  heard about Disney and Epcot and stuff like that," Ms. Johnson said. "But  I've never been to those places."


Orlando's most vexing problem, by far, is its high rate of drug use,  particularly among young people. Since the mid-1990's, Orlando has ranked  as high as third among the nation's cities in heroin-related deaths of  teenagers per capita, the Florida Office of Drug Control says.


State officials say drug traffickers are increasingly using Orlando, like  Miami, as an entry port to smuggle narcotics from Puerto Rico, Colombia and  the Dominican Republic. As the supply has increased, so has the  distribution at rave clubs and house parties that cater to a young crowd.


"We have lost a lot of young people who have had exposure to the increasing  amount of heroin in Central Florida," said Representative John L. Mica, a  Republican who represents Orlando.


"We're trying to get a handle on it," said Mr. Mica, who has held several  House subcommittee hearings in the city to investigate the problem. Three  years ago, Congress said Orlando was the headquarters of a "high-intensity  drug-trafficking area" and allocated money for local authorities to combat  the problem.


But on the street, little seems to have changed in the availability of  narcotics, said several teenage addicts interviewed recently at Another  Chance, a counseling center in a suburb here.


"It's pretty easy to get," said Matt P., 15, a patient at Another Chance  who was trying to recover from addictions to marijuana, Ecstasy, acid and  alcohol.


To be sure, most youngsters here are not addicted to drugs and are living  with their own families. And other cities of similar size struggle with the  same problems as Orlando. But the problems here seem somehow magnified by  the stark contrast with the city's pristine image.


"Orlando has a bright, shiny veneer," Representative Mica said.  "Unfortunately, we've also been a victim of tragedy."


Orlando can also attract young people because of the promise, often broken,  of abundant service jobs and round-the-clock entertainment, said Paula  Tibbetts, a spokeswoman for Covenant House.

"They come for the glitter and glitz they've heard about Orlando and  believe it will be a happy place," Ms. Tibbetts said. "What happens with so  many of them is they never set foot in the amusement parks and they end up  in marginal living situations and in some circumstances those totally fall  apart and they end up on the streets."


Stephanie Fincher, a 20-year-old recent resident of Covenant House who is  estranged from her adoptive parents in Atlanta, came to Orlando for work  and fun but became pregnant and ran out of money.


In donated jeans and an orange shirt, Ms. Fincher could pass for a  middle-class tourist. Her hair and makeup are flawless, thanks to  store-sample cosmetics, and the slick stroller in which she pushes her son,  Anthony, was donated.


"When I walk outside I don't look homeless," said Ms. Fincher, whose son  was named for another homeless shelter where she lived, Anthony's House, in  Zellwood, Fla.


She figures the misconceptions strangers have about her are just like the  ones she had about Orlando.


"I thought, 'Oh, this is going to be fun to live here,' " she said, "but it  didn't really turn out that way."  

If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them whether they need it or not.

Edited by: Antigenic  http://fornits.com/images/b1_7.gif' border='0'>at: 5/24/01 11:44:12 am


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Interviews Requested
« on: August 01, 2001, 07:17:32 PM »
Deadline 7PM EDT Thursday 8-9-01
Please pass this along to any and all program vets who might be interested.


X-Sender: [email protected]

From: Phil Smith

Subject: DRCNet questions

X-Envelope-To: [email protected]. Our story will appear on www.drcnet.org on Friday afternoon.


Thanks to everyone.


Phillip Smith

Week Online

DRCnet


-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
http://trebach.org/conference.html'>Saving our Children from Drug Treatment Abuse


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / What does sembler mean
« on: December 01, 2001, 02:14:02 PM »
What does sembler mean
I keep coming up with matches on the name Sembler in french usenet forums. So I had to look it up. Know what it means? In means "to seem".


My mainden name, McNulty, is supposed by many to me clan of anullment. And I have to say there are an unusually large number of divorces in our family. The national rate is at some where around 50%. Just me and my 5 brothers and sisters are running at 9 divorces out of 13. That's almost 70%.


I wonder if the Sembler family has a similar kind of tie to their name. Are they all a bunch of posers?

http://fornits.com/icons1/me2.gif'>

-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
http://fornits.com/anonanon/'>Anonymity Anonymous


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Supreme Court deliberates on Florida recount.
« on: June 01, 2001, 05:29:15 PM »
Supreme Court deliberates on Florida recount.
http://www.nationallampoon.com/MoDstyles/newsflash/main/nf_supreme.asp'>National Lampoon





If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them whether they need it or not.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Invitation / Announcement
« on: December 01, 2001, 08:52:58 PM »
Invitation / Announcement
Tired of pop-up ads that crash your browser? Wondering how long before ezboards starts charging for currently free service or just throws in the towel like coolboards did? Tired of the censorship of certain of your favorite words?


Well, the Fornits have gone and done it! They've been busy all day configuring new BBS software over on the Fornits.com server. Please see http://fornits.com/phpBB'>Fornits' Home for Wayward Web Forums Come try it out and let me know what you think. If you want to set up a forum; have any trouble using the BBS; have tips, suggestions, questions or comments, just let me know.  


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Request of AARC ppl
« on: December 02, 2001, 12:30:28 AM »
Request of AARC ppl
Please check this out and let me know if you recognize any of the people

and/or organizations mentioned?

http://www.ideas-canada.org/'>IDEAS


Thanks,

Ginger


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / clearing up a prev. comment I made.
« on: November 01, 2001, 09:08:50 PM »
Clear as mud...
Welcome Al,

  I don't quite get what you're saying, but welcome anyway.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / BM on Kim's board!
« on: July 01, 2001, 01:17:49 PM »
BM on Kim's board!
Looks like possibly Bob Moss is posting to Kim's board at http://pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/u/52482/Date'>pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/u/52482/Date

-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
http://trebach.org/conference.html'>Saving our Children from Drug Treatment Abuse


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