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An open discussion about the troubled parent industry

Social network is everything for a Danish student. We are hardworking people. So hardworking in fact that we sometimes need to take a drink the guy in the next office, just to learn his or her name (I think that my company has hired new staff in some offices 100 yards away. I have located new email-addresses, I have not seen before.).

So in any school, which have students of 16 years and older, they have a friday bar. The schools does even compete about who has the best bar, because many students and their parents decide what line of work their child should study based on the team-work in the school and especially where team-works start - in the bar.

But now my country is in shock due to a court decision. Bars in the city would like the students to come there instead:

Link: Beer taps closed on student bars

The the big question is now: Will the students drop out or will the schools appeal the court decision?

Newer before has the future of Denmark been in such a danger.

As some properly know, we have no legal limit for alcohol consumption in Denmark and a 16 year limit, when it comes to buying alcohol. Youth have to get a special ID-card (50 dollars) at the city hall in order to prove to the shops that they are old enough to buy alcohol.

This rule was made because we wanted to lower the number of people being killed on our roads. It is our belief that if a person, who has a drivers license suddenly get access to alcohol without prior knowledge to the dangers of alcohol, will be a higher-risk factor than a person, who has learned how to watch out over a long period.

So if you visit Denmark, you can see drunken teens as young as 12 in parks and beaches drinking alcohol. Do not attempt to jump such a teen and exploit the person, because as it is the case with most children of local wildlife, the parents are somewhere near and hidden. You would not go over and pad a little bear regardless of how cute it is - would you?

And our tactics works. See this statictics over killed persons on Danish roads (The law was adjusted in 2004).

http://www.sikkertrafik.dk/2a03e80

Red means killed. Black means injured.

The number for 2006 is 73, which is based on a population of 5,000,000 people.

Then there is other questions like: Can we measure an increase of death and violenced among youths?

The answer is no: The number of people killed has not been influenced by this. 80-100 people are convicted for murder every year (8 to 33 years in prison. Average about 12 years.)

But not everything can be seen through rose-colored spectacles. Youth are not immortal when they travel abroad.

Resently Bulgaria - a country which any reason to travel to and worn down from many years of dictatorship - has sold the highest number of pub-crawling trip in Europe. Holidays, where there is only two things on the agenda. Drinking and sex.

Youth from the entire Europe has traveled there for the last 5 years and now they are coming back in coffins.

The reason is that the ice-cubes is drugged so people can drink more without feeling drunk. So people are killed when they have been drinking 30 beers during a day, because they can not feel it.

There is a link to the story of a Dane, who died down there:

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/102693.html

As you also can notice 4 Danish women was raped during just 14 days. And a young man from Sweden was beaten to death by corrupt staff at a night club.

There is all reason to allow the youth to drink at home. Adjust your laws, so they do not leave your country and die.

This year wily bird party was based on a mix of:

50 liters of vodka, 5 liters of gin, 70 liters of red soda and 70 liters of orange juice.

The mix should be quiet tasty. The mix of drinks have been designed by a guy, who has attended an university for 15 years. (The story does not tell what he is studying.)

Then it is only to start to drink. One girl is named the "Wily Bird Girl". The winner gets a T-shirt and the point is to awake in morning without knowing how you got the T-shirt on.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/flash/musik/article315758.ece

In Lynwood jail a young well-known lady is just now serving 23 days.

She is - like some of you - a survivor of CEDU.

She might not be someone, who you find a sympathetic character.

She seems selfish, spoilt and simply a brat - someone you as a program parent will like to send to the nearest brat camp.

But..

Did she now react like most teenager just coming out from a program punished for crimes they dont have committed?

Is she not just doing the crime, because the she had paid the crime?

What would you have done if you did turn 18 and was handed a trust fund which put you in a position to give your parents the finger?

What would you as a parents do if your daughter turned 18 and was able to go anywhere.

I believe that the lady and her parents reached a deal. They shipped her off to London so she could party without causing scandal in her hometown. No one could anticipate that the world was ready to pay to see nothing. The rest is history.

They always appears publicly as a close family. But see how they write to eachother and judge for yourselves.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/ye ... ris14.html

But back to the present situation. You could all find every single forum in various gossip columms and tell where you met her and how you felt once you left the facility. Tell about how they investigated your rectum, how you felt abandoned by your family.

People will know that this industry exist.

The obivious question she needs to be asked is:

"What difference did the stay at CEDU and the other facilities, you were put in make in your life?"

Once she had made her interview, this chance is gone.

A mom is on wilderness trek and she learns something from it.

http://boomers.msn.com/articleMORE.aspx ... tid=388012

but putting them on a normal course lasting for 6 weeks or more would properly kill most of them off.

How many of your parents have bragged about your ordeal being something they would be able to handle anytime? That your wilderness experience is nothing. Maybe it is time to introduce them for the possibilty of them going there themselves.

http://www.soltreks.com/program-specialty.htm

Unfortunately I don't think that adult can book a course, which an unspecific startdate. It would be very realistic if the course could be booked in such a way that your mon or dad only know when the course starts when the transport team shows up at the frontdoor.

I also think that such programs for adults are too short in order to compare them with those, who they are putting their children through.

As I getting more help from people around Europe, pages in local languages would be available.

Also new pages would be creates as others do the hard work of finding and collecting newspaper articles about various facilities.

I have also received permission from Andrew share his story about the aftermath of his stay at Turn-about Ranch with the readers. I am grateful that he gave his permission.

http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/US/ ... tRanch.htm

Idea number one: The Night Owls

Join together as parents of teens and create a group of easily recognized parents in uniforms which only have one task. Patrol where the youth is partying and observe what is going on.

They never interfere but stand as a group and watch. If the youth wants to talk, then they talk. If the group observes a youth too drunk to stand on his or her own feet, they call a cab for the youth, so he or she can be driven home. If they observes a youth lying on the ground, they call an ambulance so the youth can be hospialized. Such a group is in Denmark and Norway called "The night owls"

Night Owls in Denmark
Night Owls in Norway

In several towns in Denmark, members of the night owls can ride busses for free recognizing their effort to keep our youth safe while partying in town.

Idea number two: "Drugs out of the city"

All parties (Law inforcement, Schools, Shops, Owners of night clubs, bars, parents) exchange information, so youths which is known users get banned from partying in nightclubs, school parties and bars until they aggree to stop using. The reason is that fights often is started by drugged people.

Users get their pictures hung up at the entrence to school parties, bars and nightclubs so the staff can show them the door when they try to enter.

The police helps by taking them to court where they as only punishment gets a ban from entering certain areas in the city for a certain period. If they break this ban, they ends up in jail. Another controversial issue is that drug users who have a drivers licence looses it for a period regardless of they were caught driving under influence or not..

Drug users are not forced into treatment, but there is some door, who remains shut for them in life until they either can delivers clean blood samples to show that they have stopped using drug or agree to enter treatment.

This tactic has meant a decrease of more than 20 percent in small cities in Jutland (population of 30.000 or less).

Option:

We are also discussing a wild cat strategy for drug dealers. We no longer catch wild cats in order to put them to death. Instead we catch them - cutt their balls - and releases them where they were caught, because death wild cats are replaced at once by new ones within days.

It is the same with drug dealers. If you take one of the street there is a new one taking the place the next day.

What about putting them up to public shame without charging them before there is gathered evidence enough to put them away for many years?

Let posters be delivered to club ownes, bars and school with name, picture and carnumber, so everybody can report the identity of the customers.

Drug dealers won't go away regardless of how many you put behind bars, but you can limit the number of their customers by letting your child know, that you know he or her secret when he or she is seen dealing with the wrong type of persons.

Let your offspring know that they have to endure the consequences of their druguse without you supporting them but that you are prepared to support your offspring regardless of the path, which is chosen towards healing.[/url]