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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Gah on April 13, 2005, 02:05:00 AM

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Post by: Gah on April 13, 2005, 02:05:00 AM
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Post by: Anonymous on April 14, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
Wes' site lists many suicides including those from Texas.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 15, 2005, 11:30:00 PM
link?
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Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2005, 11:51:00 AM
It would be helpful to me right now to know who died from Dallas Straight because I'm doing a story about it. Please help. I know Wes has a suicides link on his site but it's too much to sift through when Dallas is the main focus of this particular story.

Thanks to any and all who can give me an exact number.
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Post by: Gah on April 16, 2005, 01:36:00 PM
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Post by: PerfectStraightling on April 16, 2005, 02:20:00 PM
I heard two of the misbehavior girls from dallas straight committed suicide but I don't remember thier names.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 17, 2005, 12:17:00 AM
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On 2005-04-16 10:36:00, Ex5k wrote:

"I dunno if this has anything to do with what all happened sexually on the mens side of Straight in Dallas but I do know that a guy had Aids in the program, and well I also know that a guy has Aids now that got it right after the program. I was wondering if anyone has researched to see if the HIV virus got spread there on the guys side. The guy that found out he had it right after Straight did sexually molest some of his newcomers. I know that man and he is in prison now. So the deaths after Straight could not only be from suicides but also from AIDS.[ This Message was edited by: Ex5k on 2005-04-16 10:37 ][ This Message was edited by: Ex5k on 2005-04-16 10:38 ]"


I should have been more specific, I meant suicides and murders.
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Post by: linchpin on April 22, 2005, 09:06:00 AM
Will Ferron ( I was one of the last persons to see him alive pm for details..he was close friend and I am not gonna post details)
Vance Hudson
Stewart (forgot last name)
Geena Golden
Marilee Kossack

Theres more gimme a day or so to think..Straight was a blackout for me..my 12 year old mind shut down and couldnt handle it..spent alot of cash on stuff to putin a syringe to help with my forgetting..worked too  :silly:
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Post by: linchpin on April 22, 2005, 09:10:00 AM
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On 2005-04-16 10:36:00, Ex5k wrote:

"I dunno if this has anything to do with what all happened sexually on the mens side of Straight in Dallas but I do know that a guy had Aids in the program, and well I also know that a guy has Aids now that got it right after the program. I was wondering if anyone has researched to see if the HIV virus got spread there on the guys side. The guy that found out he had it right after Straight did sexually molest some of his newcomers. I know that man and he is in prison now. So the deaths after Straight could not only be from suicides but also from AIDS.[ This Message was edited by: Ex5k on 2005-04-16 10:37 ][ This Message was edited by: Ex5k on 2005-04-16 10:38 ]"


His name was Michael Patterson...he was my oldcomer and used to make us get keyed in for "naps" aat which time we had to watch him jerk off..
 Hes lucky he died of aids ...because I was just 12 then and now Im all grown and pissed off...if he was alive Id find him ..hit him in the head with a tire iron..put his ass in my trunk..drive him to my house and bind and torture him to death..
 Think Im fucking around? you dont know me very well..anyone know where hes buried ?  :rofl:  I need to take a piss...
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Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
I hit myself in the head, hard, to drown out things that are too upsetting or when I am really mad. I almost did it again yesterday, but I have to stop because I think it causes damage.
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Post by: linchpin on April 22, 2005, 09:15:00 AM
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On 2005-04-16 08:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"It would be helpful to me right now to know who died from Dallas Straight because I'm doing a story about it. Please help. I know Wes has a suicides link on his site but it's too much to sift through when Dallas is the main focus of this particular story.



Thanks to any and all who can give me an exact number.

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Jennifer loar, you are a stupid lazy bitch...get a real fucking job...noone wants to read your novel about how you abused people..if your shit goes national Ill launch public exposure of you..
 Oh and tell your dad to fuck off for me ok? You lose at life bitch.
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Post by: 001010 on April 22, 2005, 09:32:00 AM
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On 2005-04-22 06:06:00, linchpin wrote:

"Will Ferron ( I was one of the last persons to see him alive pm for details..he was close friend and I am not gonna post details)

Vance Hudson

Stewart (forgot last name)

Geena Golden

Marilee Kossack



Theres more gimme a day or so to think..Straight was a blackout for me..my 12 year old mind shut down and couldnt handle it..spent alot of cash on stuff to putin a syringe to help with my forgetting..worked too  :silly: "


Tim Nixon killed his mom w/ a baseball bat. Jeff Spears died of a heroin overdose.

Do you know the circumstances of the other deaths? The public has a right to know what these places push our minds to do. How it's psychological torture, not to mention sexual, and physical. Take our minds, our identities, in essence our souls. And they did, and they're getting away with it. However, this subject is getting a lot of media attention because from what I can tell there are around 9 hotspots in the US where WWASPS and WWASPS-like programs are under fire with scrutiny.  This is a chance for us to exercise our constitutional rights.  They?re already listening, we have their attention right now.

Part of this federal bill senator George Miller wants to pass, the "End Institutional Abuse Against Children Act" would be to hold those guilty in the past criminally culpable for their actions. So, the Melvin Semblers of the US would be in jail instead of the ambassadors to Italy, or filthy rich Utah businessmen.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=20#97024 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=9251&forum=9&start=20#97024)

In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people.
--James Madison, U.S. President


_________________________
EST 1983
Salesmanship Club '84-'86
Straight, Inc. '86-'88

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke
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Post by: Carmel on April 22, 2005, 09:47:00 AM
The only one I know of for sure was a girl named Christie Rye, a heroin overdose.  I dont know if it was intentional or accidental.

This is the same girl that I saw get her nose and arm broken during restraints.

Linch, are you sure about Marilee?
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Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 10:50:00 AM
I am curious about a girl that lived in Colleyville,Texas that hung herself after STRAIGHT Dallas, does anyone know whom she was?
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Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 11:25:00 AM
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On 2005-04-22 06:32:00, 001010 wrote:

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On 2005-04-22 06:06:00, linchpin wrote:



"Will Ferron ( I was one of the last persons to see him alive pm for details..he was close friend and I am not gonna post details)



Vance Hudson



Stewart (forgot last name)



Geena Golden



Marilee Kossack







Theres more gimme a day or so to think..Straight was a blackout for me..my 12 year old mind shut down and couldnt handle it..spent alot of cash on stuff to putin a syringe to help with my forgetting..worked too  :silly: "




Tim Nixon killed his mom w/ a baseball bat. Jeff Spears died of a heroin overdose.



Do you know the circumstances of the other deaths? The public has a right to know what these places push our minds to do. How it's psychological torture, not to mention sexual, and physical. Take our minds, our identities, in essence our souls. And they did, and they're getting away with it. However, this subject is getting a lot of media attention because from what I can tell there are around 9 hotspots in the US where WWASPS and WWASPS-like programs are under fire with scrutiny.  This is a chance for us to exercise our constitutional rights.  They?re already listening, we have their attention right now.



Part of this federal bill senator George Miller wants to pass, the "End Institutional Abuse Against Children Act" would be to hold those guilty in the past criminally culpable for their actions. So, the Melvin Semblers of the US would be in jail instead of the ambassadors to Italy, or filthy rich Utah businessmen.



http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=20#97024 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=9251&forum=9&start=20#97024)

In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people.

--James Madison, U.S. President



_________________________

EST 1983

Salesmanship Club '84-'86

Straight, Inc. '86-'88



All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke"


Proposed federal regulations

Federal legislation to regulate residential treatment programs in the United States would:
* Provide $50 million in funding to states for licensing and monitoring.
* Establish federal civil and criminal penalties for abuse of children.
* Expand federal authority to regulate programs located overseas but run by U.S. companies.
* Require the State Department to report any abuse of American children overseas
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Post by: taureana on April 22, 2005, 11:54:00 AM
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On 2005-04-22 06:06:00, linchpin wrote:

"Will Ferron ( I was one of the last persons to see him alive pm for details..he was close friend and I am not gonna post details)

Vance Hudson

Stewart (forgot last name)

Geena Golden

Marilee Kossack



Theres more gimme a day or so to think..Straight was a blackout for me..my 12 year old mind shut down and couldnt handle it..spent alot of cash on stuff to putin a syringe to help with my forgetting..worked too  :silly: "


Marilee?  What happened to her?  I hadn't heard.
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Post by: taureana on April 22, 2005, 11:57:00 AM
The Stuart you mentioned is Stuart Grannick.

The girls I heard were dead are:

Gena Golden
Alison Boggs
Michele Karr
Sheila Condon

But I don't know the validity of the reports.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
Any info on the female Colleyville, TX. teen that was suicide by hanging?
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Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 03:34:00 PM
Anyone know what happened to Carmen Y., Kim G, Dena L.?
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Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 03:42:00 PM
Michael Patterson is alive and in jail. He is NOT dead! FYI
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Post by: Antigen on April 22, 2005, 03:57:00 PM
Indeed! I'd double check every rumor about death and missery among former Straightlings. A lot of it is bunk created by Program staff and parents to prop up their moral lessons about the perills of not working one's program. According to program lore, I myself spent years as a heroin addicted prostitute in Ft. Lauderdale. Just ask my mother and she'll tell ya.'

OTOH, if you check your facts, you'll find a whole lot of verifiable sad stories among Program graduates and non graduates alike.

The Internet is now safe for free speech.
-- Christopher A. Hansen on the overturning of the Communications Decency Act

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Post by: PerfectStraightling on April 22, 2005, 05:07:00 PM
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On 2005-04-22 06:47:00, Carmel wrote:

"The only one I know of for sure was a girl named Christie R, a heroin overdose.  I dont know if it was intentional or accidental.



This is the same girl that I saw get her nose and arm broken during restraints.



Linch, are you sure about Marilee?"


OK I think this thread has listed maybe 6 girls that were there when I was. Who is Cristie R, is she the younger girl, I think she was maybe 13, who came in the middle of 89 (or was that Christina)? Michele was my oldcomer for a while, I didn't know about her. And Marilee? I hadn't heard that either, I hope that's not true. I remember her mom a lot, I think that was like my second host home.  :sad:  :sad:  :sad:
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Post by: taureana on May 27, 2005, 04:49:00 PM
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On 2005-04-22 12:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Anyone know what happened to Carmen Y., Kim G, Dena L.?"


I heard Kim died of an overdoes, heroin or crystal meth.
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Post by: Dr. Miller Newton on May 27, 2005, 04:53:00 PM
Once a druggie, always a druggie...
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Post by: linchpin on May 27, 2005, 06:07:00 PM
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On 2005-04-22 12:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Michael Patterson is alive and in jail. He is NOT dead! FYI"


Fuck michael patterson...he ever crosses paths with me he will wish he was dead...fucking child molestor
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Post by: linchpin on May 27, 2005, 06:11:00 PM
I remember when they cut Sheilas hair off and they called her "Darth Vader" ...Yah all those chicks were in there on my program..
  Program...somehow that word isnt fitting. Also I dont think you can really OD on crystal. Not to the point of death..Unless you did like 2 grams IV with no tolerance..which would fall under suicide..
  Heroin, my friends, is a whole nother bag.
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Post by: linchpin on May 27, 2005, 06:12:00 PM
"Tim Nixon killed his mom w/ a baseball bat."
   A classic, brutal, and stylish murder  :tup:
I think he even drove her around town for a day while he charged up her credit cards
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Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2005, 06:18:00 PM
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On 2005-05-27 15:12:00, linchpin wrote:

""Tim Nixon killed his mom w/ a baseball bat."

   A classic, brutal, and stylish murder  :tup:

I think he even drove her around town for a day while he charged up her credit cards
"


  this site amazes me with it's continual sickness.  posts like these really say something about the person who writes them.  isn't this the guy others were telling to LIE about his drug use on job apps?  Sure - I would want someone like THIS working for me.  "A stylish murder"?  man
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Post by: linchpin on May 27, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
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On 2005-05-27 15:18:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-05-27 15:12:00, linchpin wrote:


""Tim Nixon killed his mom w/ a baseball bat."


   A classic, brutal, and stylish murder  :tup:


I think he even drove her around town for a day while he charged up her credit cards

"




  this site amazes me with it's continual sickness.  posts like these really say something about the person who writes them.  isn't this the guy others were telling to LIE about his drug use on job apps?  Sure - I would want someone like THIS working for me.  "A stylish murder"?  man"


Well if you knew his mom..Oh and I dont need you for shit so fuck off
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Post by: Antigen on May 27, 2005, 07:50:00 PM
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On 2005-05-27 15:18:00, Anonymous wrote:

posts like these really say something about the person who writes them...


And post like these are most often written by Program graduates, almost always by Program vets. You do the math!

If I am of the opinion that it is inexpedient to assign to the government the task of operating railroads, hotels, or mines, I am not an "enemy of the state" any more than I can be called an enemy of sulfuric acid because I am of the opinion that, useful though it may be for many purposes, it is not suitable either for drinking, or for washing one's hands.
Ludwig Von Mises

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Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2005, 09:14:00 PM
I think I'll have another beer! and no I don't feel guilty!!!
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Post by: Antigen on May 27, 2005, 11:02:00 PM
::cheers::

All of these comforting and reasonable things were taught by the ministers in their pulpits -- by teachers in Sunday schools and by parents at home. The children were victims. They were assaulted in the cradle -- in their mother's arms. Then, the schoolmaster carried on the war against their natural sense, and all the books they read were filled with the same impossible truths. The poor children were helpless. The atmosphere they breathed was filled with lies -- lies that mingled with their blood.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer