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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Mission Mountain School => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 28, 2005, 05:16:00 PM

Title: woodbury strugglingteens.com survey
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2005, 05:16:00 PM
did everyone fill this out?

http://www.strugglingteens.com/survey.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/survey.html)
Title: woodbury strugglingteens.com survey
Post by: goddessatwork on July 31, 2005, 03:49:00 PM
He recommends WWASP and other facilities known to be abusive. Here are some archived articles about MMS (some of these you will want to search "mission mountain" as they are just short clips within a larger document):

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe04.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/8/oe04.html)
[The author is the daughter of Woodbury Reports publisher Lon Woodbury and his wife Denise. Kristie graduated from the Explorations Wilderness Assessment Course in Montana in 1993, and Mission Mountain School, also in Montana. Her presence at Woodbury Reports is a demonstration of the positive relationship that has evolved since she has returned from the above-mentioned programs.]


Pro MMS & NATSAP:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... 319xi.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2005/4/montanalegistrive050319xi.html)

Might find this interesting:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe02.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2002/9/oe02.html)

1996 visit to MMS:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... sit02.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1997/4/visit02.html)

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews03.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1992/8/news03.html)

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... sit03.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/10/visit03.html)

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... sit02.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1997/4/visit02.html)

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews04.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1992/2/news04.html)

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... 05snh.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2005/1/jan05snh.html)

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe04.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2001/8/oe04.html)

Here's where it all started:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een01.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1991/1/seen01.html)

Not sure if any of you have seen this before, but it indicates Mercer will be back at the school full-time (this was written in 2004):
NEWS FROM MISSION MOUNTAIN SCHOOL
(Apr. 15, 2004) Colleen Harrington, http://www.missionmountain.com (http://www.missionmountain.com) has recently assumed the new position of Assistant Head, after having taught English for 13 years. Her responsibilities will include parent, consultant and alumni communications. Colleen is currently initiating an alumni association and has been in contact with over 100 students. She is also pleased to announce that to date, five members of the graduating of class of 2004 have received over $300,000 in scholarship offerings to such schools as Whittier, Santa Clara and Chapman in California, Pacific University in Oregon, Antioch College in Ohio, and McLees Rae College in Maryland. John Mercer, Headmaster, announces that although he has been on a reduced schedule since the birth of his second daughter in October, he is now back to school on a full-time basis and will work directly with the students again. He will also resume doing equine therapy with families during family visits and parent retreats.

And NATSAP is born:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews01.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1999/4/news01.html)

Thanksgiving 1992:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een01.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1992/12/seen01.html)

More of the story by Kristie Vollar:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe03.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2001/4/oe03.html)

And even more:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe04.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/2/oe04.html)

Re reunion:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5095.shtml (http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/publish/article_5095.shtml)

MMS beginnings - very interesting!
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews04.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1997/2/news04.html)

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een01.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1994/2/seen01.html)

1992 article by Mercer:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews04.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1992/2/news04.html)

And another by Mercer:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews03.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1992/8/news03.html)

Another by Kristie, recommending another program that reminds her of MMS:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... 0404vr.htm (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2004/4/sunrise0404vr.htm)

Interventions, by Kristie:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe05.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/6/oe05.html)
[The author is the daughter of Woodbury Reports publisher Lon Woodbury and his wife Denise. Kristie graduated from the Explorations Wilderness Assessment Course in 1993, and Mission Mountain School in 1994, both in Montana. She was inspired to write this article after participating in conversations with other parents while working at her father?s office. Her presence there is a demonstration of the positive relationship that has evolved since she has returned from the above-mentioned programs.]

Another Kristie article:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe05.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/4/oe05.html)

And another:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe03.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/10/oe03.html)

Georgia parents praises MMS:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe01.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/1997/12/oe01.html)

How long is long enough? By Kristie:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe06.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/5/oe06.html)

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe03.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2000/12/oe03.html)

Here's where I got my search from:
http://www.google.com/search?q=mission+ ... gteens.com (http://www.google.com/search?q=mission+mountain&domains=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strugglingteens.com&sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strugglingteens.com)
Title: woodbury strugglingteens.com survey
Post by: katfish on July 31, 2005, 04:17:00 PM
Rolling my eyes on the journey article- John is so not qualified to be doing this it astounds me... a journey is his solution to kids who are sturggling?  let me hit the snooze button- get back to me when that same old mantra goes away.  

Our experience has nothing to do with whatever metaphorical bs he speaks of.  I HATED that metaphor speak- as if lifes problems can be resolved in that context- he provides kids with his own made up framework from which they may work things out.  The ony problem is that framework has no bearing on what the child is actually experiencing nor does it have anything to do with the true complexities of the real world.

UNderstanding how to bring these kids into their own involves understand, in part, the complex conditions under which these kid have to grow up in.  Johns insertion of culture in a school that is mostly about fear and submission is a smoke screen at best- just to add this feeling of nature and earth, of naturalness to a process that's only natural if your Hobbes.  That is, only natural if you believe that power and domination/coercion is the way to set someone on 'the right path'

Thanks goddess, for this.  I attended school with Kristie and know they are supporters of MMS and other programs that engage in ethically questionable practices as I've heard anecdotally.  They are firm believers in the power of capitalism to create inovative programs that should not be interfered with by the gov't for fear of 'tainting' these programs b/c apparently there is a lack of understanding by CPS, etc as to what are acceptable methods to help kids grow and what is abusive.   So, in other words they appear to be on board with NATSAP, preferring to self-regulate b/c, of course, they know best- they are the innovators of this booming industry and, really, who needs to document the effectiveness?  PhD's all around are taking note and hopefully, with enough outcry, there will be some accountability.  But guys like Lon don't help matters. He certainly is in bed with MMS.[ This Message was edited by: katfish on 2005-07-31 13:19 ]
Title: woodbury strugglingteens.com survey
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2005, 10:22:00 PM
You're welcome, Kat.

- Goddess