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Feed Your Head / Re: NATSAP staying strong in todays economy.
« on: March 29, 2011, 04:33:13 PM »
If they are in a wilderness area, it may be illegal to hunt and kill the fauna.
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Reddit's karma system can get asshole posts buried pretty quickly. It's a good website to post on, I quite enjoy reading the IaMa forum and for giggles the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu forum.
Will look at your subreddit later on. Probably won't comment much as I try to keep the divergent parts of my world separate, but if I see something worth mentioning I'll make a sock and post.
Quote from: "Ursus"I agree that programs are not effective with all children.
But the rest of Utah's camps pitch hiking and survival skills - making a fire using a bow and arrow, setting traps for game -- as the best way wilderness can break through a teen's problems. The element of risk in being isolated in the desert makes therapy effective, said Andrew Powell, a field director for Outback Therapeutic Expeditions.
Before you start your explanation, I hope you consider refraining from using the term "brainwashing", since this is not accurate.
If 1,000 kids say a program is just fine, and 4 kids complain that it was abusive, what would you believe? That is the choice parents have today and why the 'anti program movement' is nothing more than a few websites and the crazy people who run them.
I am not in marketing and am indeed a parent with a child who has suffered severe rage, depression and anxiety that threatened his life. . . . It gave my son a supportive, safe environment, with about 20 hours of therapy a week plus in-house high school and a great outdoor athletic programme. Family therapy benefited my son, my wife and me and our other sons. Our lead therapist has remained in touch with us since our son left Gateway and cares about our family. Is Fornits so cynical that there is no room for belief that there are parents and therapists who truly care and do their best without being part of a conspiracy of evil?
This educational consultant was recommended two me twice, once in 2007 by a psychologist and then again in 2010 by my son’s psychologist. Based on his background, she knew he had significant learning issues and a history of anxiety and depression. After meeting with him she identified him as a “soft” kid and recommended a therapeutic wilderness program. She then worked with the wilderness program team and recommended Gateway Academy.
PLEASE, don't presume all wilderness programs are bad things, or do bad things, or have unhappy participants any more than Burger King.