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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Froderik on January 23, 2011, 09:07:57 PM

Title: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: Froderik on January 23, 2011, 09:07:57 PM
Stupid question:

Aside from AARC (in Canada) and Teen Challenge, are there any other derivatives of Straight Inc. in operation right now?

A friend of mine was asking, and I want to provide an adequate answer..... thanks!
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: dragonfly on January 23, 2011, 09:46:10 PM
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: Rusty Goat on January 23, 2011, 11:25:00 PM
Hey Froddy, since WDTONY hasn't replied yet, here's the most recent rendition of straight in the USA, even though it cannot be tied through corporate documents to straight inc. The two ladies featured on this page: http://www.branchescounseling.org/about.html (http://www.branchescounseling.org/about.html)   used to be the executive officers and directors of PFC in Indy and Michigan. Vicky Winebarger had a daughter who was on Senior Staff there at the Michigan Straight.

aarc is in CANADA, not the US and it is not straight inc. Neither is teen challenge.
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: dragonfly on January 24, 2011, 09:12:40 AM
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: Antigen on January 25, 2011, 11:14:10 AM
Don't forget PDAP. While it predates $tr8 and, possibly, the seed, it seems to come from the same well.

http://www.pdap.com/cities.htm (http://www.pdap.com/cities.htm)
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: psy on January 25, 2011, 03:59:42 PM
Exodus International's Love in action program uses Straight Inc tactics (http://http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/05/627/) and language.

"Say “I love you _____” after each person is finished relating."
(not exactly thinly disguised).
 
"Absolutely no journaling or keeping a diary outside of the MI process unless directed or approved by staff."
(yup.  They do MIs)

"Be honest, authentic, and real."
(and the'll tell you when you're not, becuase they know you better than you know yourself...  see below)

"Therefore, any belongings, appearances, clothing, actions, or humor that might connect a client to an inappropriate past are excluded from the program. These hindrances are called False Images (FI’). FI behavior may include hyper-masculinity, seductive clothing, mannish/boyish attire (on women), excessive jewelry (on men), mascoting, and “campy” or gay/lesbian behavior and talk."
(might as well substitute "druggie" for FI".

"HONESTY AT ALL TIMES"
(and in the Straight sense, too.

"Refuge clients and their parents/guardians are expected to attend Love in Action’ Open Meetings whenever they occur, held on the first Tuesday of every month at Kirby Woods Baptist Church at 7:30 p.m."
(yes, they do this too, and a lot more with the parents if you read the full thing at the above link.).

"While on the LIA campus, Refuge clients must be in phaseat all times, whether indoors or out of doors. A client is “in phase” when he or she is with two or more other clients (whether Refuge or residential,) one of whom must have been in the program for at least eight weeks. Exceptions to phase rules will be granted by C.O.C. request only."
(well.  i suppose it's slightly better than beltlooping.

"No talking behind another person’ back (TBB)."

"Clients may have no contact with anyone who has left the program prior to graduating without the blessing of the staff to do so. Clients may address off-limit persons they inadvertently encounter with a polite “hello” only."

"Refuge clients may only read materials approved by staff."

"No television viewing, going to movies, or reading/watching/listening to secular media of any kind, anywhere within the client’ and the parent’/guardian’ control. This includes listening to classical or instrumental music that is not expressly Christian (Beethoven, Bach, etc. are not considered Christian)."

"Maintain strict confidentiality of everything discussed in group. “What is seen here, what is heard here, remains here!”"

"Stand when speaking, relating, or being related to. During general raps, one must stand while relating. One must also stand when someone is being given feedback or being related to."

Rules for parents:

"No discussing therapeutic issues at home. Keep conversations positive."

"Your client is not allowed to talk to anyone outside of your home including friends or family. Do not tell client who has called for them or who is asking about them."

... and lots more

There is still a lasting influence from Straight Inc, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: ajax13 on January 26, 2011, 02:02:25 PM
Quote from: "Rusty Goat"
aarc is in CANADA, not the US and it is not straight inc. Neither is teen challenge.
I have received confirmation from the corporate registry in Alberta that AARC filed with them in '89, when the project was still Kids of the Canadian West, an appendage of Miller Newton's Kids operation.  It is as much Straight as Kids was in it's provenance.  Albertans were in fact sent to Straight in the US, and this link was maintained by Newton, who benefited from the largesse of the Provincial Government in the form of funds and bodies for Kids.  If you accept the premise that Kids was Straight, then AARC is Straight.  
As an aside, I was discussing AARC with a co-worker who remarked that it sounded like Teen Challenge.  He had been "challenged" at age 30.  Forever young.
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: Antigen on January 26, 2011, 07:16:25 PM
From what I've seen of the way these groups evolve, I'd say those kids in Calgery are getting one of the more potent slices of the pie. I've seen a lot; from The Seed in it's many modes through $tr8 directly and then the broader troubled parent industry through research. A megalomaniac in relative isolation with little more challenge than enough to keep the appearance of a state of crisis (and hence the dedication and cash-flow) can be the most controlling and abusive.
Title: Bob Meehan & the Palmer Drug Abuse Program (PDAP)
Post by: Ursus on January 26, 2011, 08:51:41 PM
Quote from: "Antigen"
Don't forget PDAP. While it predates $tr8 and, possibly, the seed, it seems to come from the same well.

http://www.pdap.com/cities.htm (http://www.pdap.com/cities.htm)
File listed as being in "Box OA 19054" in the Donald Ian MacDonald Collection (http://http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/textual/smof/macdonal.htm) of the Reagan Library Archive (MacDonald having formerly been Straight, Inc.'s Medical Research Director (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32952&start=15#p393433) just prior) :

Palmer Drug Abuse Conference Dallas, TX 08/06/1982[/list]
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 30, 2011, 12:22:46 AM
Quote from: "Rusty Goat"
Hey Froddy, since WDTONY hasn't replied yet, here's the most recent rendition of straight in the USA, even though it cannot be tied through corporate documents to straight inc. The two ladies featured on this page: http://www.branchescounseling.org/about.html (http://www.branchescounseling.org/about.html)   used to be the executive officers and directors of PFC in Indy and Michigan. Vicky Winebarger had a daughter who was on Senior Staff there at the Michigan Straight.

aarc is in CANADA, not the US and it is not straight inc. Neither is teen challenge.

Bill...aarc is str8 ...wtf????
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 30, 2011, 12:27:22 AM
Quote from: "Froderik"
Stupid question:

Aside from AARC (in Canada) and Teen Challenge, are there any other derivatives of Straight Inc. in operation right now?

A friend of mine was asking, and I want to provide an adequate answer..... thanks!

aarc is...teen challenge is not linked with str8 as far as I know.....Branches counseling, we have our eye on b/c it stemmed from programmies trying to open it after michigan pathways shut down and were still running illegal "foster homes" equalling "illegal program".
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: Rusty Goat on January 30, 2011, 12:15:34 PM
As it stands now, in my mind, aarc and straight are 2 different entities altogether. If you can show me a record with a straight inc filing on AARC I'll change my mind. Equating and direct corporate ties are two different things. The original report ISAC did in 2003 or so with that CTV reporter primarily focused on the Miller Newton influences and how the model is strikingly similar.

As far as Teen Challenge, well, I'd say they're a lot closer to straight than AARC, but that's just my opinion. We talked to a former straight inc staffer in OHIO on the sidewalk there at PFC/KHK (2008 protest) who proudly proclaimed his straight inc tenure and subsequent management position at TC up there in Dayton. Dayton was part of that city triangle logo... a KHK/STRAIGHT-MIDWEST deal.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: ajax13 on January 30, 2011, 01:37:02 PM
The original post asked if there were any derivatives of Straight up and running.  AARC is without question a derivative, in that the program was created as a Kids franchise, and Kids was without question derived from Straight.  Last time I checked, Miller Newton was still the former National Director of Straight.  AARC's Executive Director, credited now as the founder, was a Kids employee, and at least four other AARC staffers were clients in Kids.
Teen Challenge is a ministry of the Assemblies of God, and has been around since the '50s,  Absent David Wilkerson's use of time travel, Teen Challenge cannot be derived from Straight.  
Rusty Goat, wouldn't it be neat if your desire to inform your opinion was as great as your desire to express it?
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: Rusty Goat on January 30, 2011, 04:15:38 PM
I'm informed just fine thank you. I'm just being technical, that's all. My bad. Why again is AARC still open?
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: Deprogrammed on February 11, 2011, 11:06:47 PM
Quote from: "Rusty Goat"
I'm informed just fine thank you. I'm just being technical, that's all. My bad. Why again is AARC still open?
It's still open b/c they need reinforcements, and I have not paid a visit yet. I will when I am well enough to do so.
-DP
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: dragonfly on February 12, 2011, 11:25:26 AM
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: seamus on February 13, 2011, 07:16:07 AM
Teen challenge als seems to be much more of a fundy run kind of joint than I ever recall str8 being, dont know, and cant say about 'treatment' idioms,as far as who is 12 step, 7 step or rational recovery.Never set foot in a tc joint, only sayin from the literature that I found in a laundrymat.
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: dragonfly on February 13, 2011, 07:15:18 PM
Title: Re: Straight Inc. today (What's up and running?)
Post by: ajax13 on February 15, 2011, 02:02:07 PM
Here are a couple of events that might provide an opportunity for discussion with the people paying the freight to keep the Straight torch burning:
http://www.aarc.ab.ca/articles/gala/saveTheDate2011.pdf (http://www.aarc.ab.ca/articles/gala/saveTheDate2011.pdf)