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I hear you on the $$$$$. Setanta premium was charging $25 a pop for the good games.

I found a local pub in my hood that had setanta basic and saw a few games for free.

Then for the last 10 days of the tournament I ordered Direct TV with setanta basic. On the 10th day I cancelled my account. So all said and done it cost me $50 for the last 10 days - but setanta basic had all games on a 24 hour delay.

I was rooting for S.Africa too. Chabal is a neandrathal but as I said he got leveled by the Argentinian 8 man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keRDlDkYgGU

In general I'm not fond of the french. They have a language preservation government department and they fine magazines that print non-french words. Fine as paying your taxes late Fine.

Wow! that's steep. Actually, the best deal I found was on the RWC site, a company was showing all 48 matches, whenever and as many times as you wanted to watch them, for $50 whole package. (Aaah, its great having kids. I still couldn't justify the expense.) Pubs around here like Ginger's Ale House charge like 20-25 a pop for ONE match! Wherever it is you went to watch it for free - you got a deal.

My question is:
Why didn't the French ever fight as hard for their country as they do on a rugby pitch? Fuck the frogs

I know we all walked away with resentment, pain and a constant fear or getting our asses handed to us on a daily basis.

I know Rudy was no saint and I feel, really I do for people he "had it out for".

I just think there were other staff members who made Rudy look tame.
Again, just my opinion.

Gabrielle, good to see you back posting after so long. I remember you right before you graduated.
I think that Rudy had some respect for you which he tended to give out grudgingly and selfishly to a few individuals.
I think that during your time there, there were other terrors like Lori Saunders that overshadowed Rudy in outrageousness (sp?)
They needed to leave in order for Rudy to fill that power vacuum. That's when he really turned on and revved up the freak machine.

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I was in a bar on Tuesday night and this old hippie was doing solo acoustic (plugged in) James Taylor night.

All my friends were asking me why my mind was elsewhere. With the alcohol buzz on I went into a memory lane bonanza.

James Taylor songs still freak and/or creep me out. Same with John Denver shit. I just can't take hearing that and try to 'feel' it in a new different light. Never works for me.

Not sure this is a fair question in a black and white reality. Did I break? Sure I guess so. Or I played the game. Or I just plain survived with some sanity intact. Depends on your point of view, doesn't it?
I might have been hated as a look good, although I didn't tend to go after the easy target rebels to prop myself up.
I'm not proud of the way I always acted there, but I'm proud that I could walk away and carry on with my life and eventually put things in greater perspective.
Those first couple of years out of Cedu, by the way, were seriously rough when I realized how skewed my sense of reality had gotten.

Son of Serbia admits that he played the game, but he also had some raging moments of rebellion that I never could've thought of doing while I was there.
We never had an active underground, though. I think if I'd had a safety net like that, things might've gone different for me. In our era, you couldn't be sure that your friends wouldn't be slammed in a rap so hard that they would spill everything and give you up.  It's like 'Invasion' (...of the Body Snatchers. Great movie concept, but why do they have to keep remaking it over and over?)
Who do you trust that hasn't been secretly converted over to them?
That's why I really respect the hell out of anyone there during my time and before because it was so hard to rebel out without being dragged down by your own peers.
Ultimately, I can't deny anyone what they went through, or how they did it to make it mentally intact to now. I did what I could and so did they, so it seems pretty horrible to have to categorize people as either broken or not, when there's a lot of gray area inbetween. In my head and in my heart, I stayed true to who I was. They never broke me. Isn't that enough?

He graduated from Cedu in the early to mid 80's before coming to work there around 90-91. I remember that pretty clearly.

You got it. You must get those nigerian emails at work every week like I do.

I ask of you more hospital passes as I wheel the scrum towards psychoville (Finkle is the mayor).

Don't get too many, but I know what they're all about, the idea that anybody could so easily give up money to such an ignorant scam...

Anyway, the hospital passes won't do any good for anybody. I'm locked in for the try zone with a bomber line-out throw.

Well, maybe Miss. Hilton is not the best example of what Mr. Wasserman and his followers were able to do, but can you find a better way to inform the world of this industry?...

...Somehow the public needs to be reach in an unconventional way. Using Paris Hilton, even if the fact is that the real damage to her was done by Provo Canyon School, would bring light on the industry and send a clear message to the parents: You can not get a good result by outsourcing your child’s upbringing. You need to do it yourself.

Write to Larry King and tell him to ask questions about her time in the industry. She maybe only had stayed for some months at CEDU, but her total in the industry stay was way longer.

Okay, so I have a little more insight into where you're coming from, but I still think you might assume at times that you have a more intimate picture of the state of the trouble teen industry in America than you actually do. You are championing the just cause, so I'll leave it alone.

I just think you're barking up the wrong tree with the Paris Hilton thing. The last thing Cedu survivors need is to be linked with her. I can have sympathy for her for having to be introduced, however briefly, to the Cedu system. It is a shock to the brain regardless of who you are and how many institutions you've been to beforehand.
That doesn't change the fact that pretty much everything since then she's brought on herself. She's plays the role of drugged up skank perfectly.  No self respecting Cedu survivor wants to be connected to that basket of buffoonery.
Also, there's plenty of kids of the rich and famous that we don't hear about because they have self control and take advantage of the fact that they can attend any college they want to - to actually work or at least gain knowledge and lead a fulfilling life.

On another point, to reply to another poster, I think it was Ursus; I DO NOT THINK that all celebrity rich kids got their Cedu experience candy coated. I was the Big Brother to the brother of Rob and Chad Lowe and at one point was in the same peer group as John Brogan, (a lot of people were, poor kid was there forever) who was the stepson of Dudley Moore and whose mom traveled in high society circles. Brogan got so much hell and was treated like absolute dirt. I swear I saw his soul deteriorate and slowly die before my eyes.

Yes, there's leagues of difference between the Hiltons and Dudley Moore, but in my experience, the more celeb status a kid came in with just meant that people had that much more ammo to use on them in raps and propheets. The lucky ones convinced their parents what it was really like and got pulled, just like any less famous kid there.