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10 Things Your Private School Won't Tell You, FoxNews

1) "We're not as exclusive as you think."
2) "Okay, we have money problems. What startup doesn't?"
3) "Don't expect much guidance from our guidance counselors."
4) "Sure, we've had students get into Yale — just not lately."
5) "Your kid will get abused."
6) "Our credentials are bogus."
7) "Beware of our boards. They can be pretty pushy."
"Our 'tough love' methods are, well, tough."
9) "Our extracurriculars are extra-imaginary."
10) "That five-figure tuition check won't cut it, folks."

Interesting!

Due to the on-going civil war in Denmark we have decided to suspend further meetings. The safety of our members has to come first.

What it means is that we will continue maintenance of the wiki and stop vandalism, but our posters on various message boards will concentrate on addressing our own politicians so we can save our nation.

The background on the third gang war is:

Back in the 1980's Hell Angels entered Denmark and started a war with an all Danish biker club called Bullshit. After introducing machineguns they wiped out Bullshit and took over the drug market which until 2003 was concentrated in a part of Copenhagen which proclaimed their independence of the Danish laws in 1971 (Christiania).

In 1994 the second gang war started. This was called the Great Nordic Biker War. This time they used weapons left behind by the Red army. We were talking anti-tank rockets and of course machine guns. Our army was tied up in Bosnia and the biker gangs outgunned the police forces 10 times. The Danish police did however increase their firepower and political pressure and threats of recalling our army meant that the Tinndahn-Nielsen peace agreement was made in 1997. This agreement divided the drug market in Denmark between the two groups.

 Some years ago our present government invaded Christiania and closed Pusher Street. A huge percentage of our police force is now tied as an occupying force limiting their capacity in relationship with other police business. The same year the age limit for alcohol purchase limit was raised from 15 to 16. As result of the invasion the drug market were spread out all over our country. Where the police in the old days stood at the border and fined people for drug use, drugs are now sold in every school all over our country.

But not only is the closure of Pusher Street to blame. Danes are introduced to alcohol by their parents aged 14 or 15 when they are confirmed. With the old age limit they could purchase alcohol in the shops without disturbing their parents. Personally I have no problems with a teen aged 14 drinking alcohol, but here kids are generally polite and leave us alone instead of asking for the same thing all day. Unfortunately the difficult access to alcohol means that they turn to drugs instead. We are now talking of 2 drugs users in every class-room when they are leaving middle school. We have a European statistic here.

After the second gang war the biker clubs became lazy. New groups of second generation youth coming from the Middle East entered the market. They are youth who celebrate 9/11 as a victory. The official Denmark asked the media to start the Cartoon war. The cartoons were based on Herge's masterpiece from 1930 of a journalist from Belgium visiting the Central Republic of Congo. Our victory was huge, but it didn't scare the youth gangs away. Last year the third gang war started and now people in certain parts of Copenhagen are strip-search both by the police and the youth gangs when they enter parts of Denmark no longer under control by the central government in Copenhagen. As ordinary and peaceful citizens we are placed in a loose-loose situation.

1) The police have given extra powers to strip-search people without reason. They can detain people for 6 hours as preventive detention. They don't have to bring charges forward and don't need to involve the court-system. The damage for ordinary citizens are huge if they are recognized by family, colleagues or business partners because it means guilt in the eyes of the public if a person has business with the police without protesting loudly. If we choose to leave our house our reputation and career could be damaged beyond repair.

2) If the youth gangs find tattoos or people are unshaved looking like a member of a biker gang undercover they are attacked with knife or guns.

3) In towns outside Copenhagen locals attack strangers. Several yokels attacked a college with foreigners because they had been insulted by people from Iceland. Unfortunately they started to shoot at people from Poland. In Denmark a person is regarded as a stranger if this person chooses to move more than 50 kilometers from his or her hometown.

Right now we are prisoners in our own home. We are waiting whether our government decides to pull our forces from the 11'th Christian crusade in Afghanistan. The gang war is now a full scale civil war. Just yesterday the police created a strip-search zone in Esbjerg in Jutland.

We will return when the two fractions have made a peace agreement.

Best wishes in the battle against the behavior modification business.

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On behalf of Secret Prisons for Teens.

We at spft are investigating a program called Gunderuplund.

The use a rather extreme 12 step program called the Minnesota treatment developed by the late Dan Anderson

We are talking mandatory strip-search and enemas when entering the residential treatment facility - each time the detainee leaves the program without the "buddy".
We are talking of confessing sinds or make some up to progress in the program and in some cases using forces close to assult to bring detainees back to the program.

Basically a treatment strategy close to Straight.

I have this google translated article about Kings Island aka Kongens Oe.

A name pops up: Vivian Soerensen. Any knowledge of seeing her in the States?

The program is now closed. Because treatment is paid for by the state, they cannot claim false success rates because there are people checking up on their numbers.

Julian Youth Academy is starting a program for boys.

What is odd is that it is located in California where they should have laws protecting youths from such isolation.

How is this program able to fly under the radar?

It is even debated in LA TImes

http://http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6358

What became of Obama's new rules about lobbyists?

A poor robber who was able to turn himself into a goat held by the police in the Kwara State of Kenya.

Nigeria police hold 'robber' goat, BBC

We believe that the robber is in risk of being eaten by either the police or fellow inmates before he can change back into human shape. As we are against cannibalism we would like to create a Petition to secure that this goat/robber does not suffer this terrible fait.

How can we do that?

I am so happy that a teacher helped me back in my childhood from committing a terrible mistake. As a young kid I wanted to travel to third world countries in Africa and help saving people.

A teacher helped me by asking me to read Herge's masterpiece from 1931 about a young journalist traveling to Africa. It was the highpoint of his career. Why he didn't get a Nobel price for it, I don't know. This rather heavy literary book gave me profound insight in the way of living down there. I realized that I had to set other goals in life. I am forever thankful for this help I got from my teacher.

Comment to: FUTURE TENSE, By Lon Woodbury

Yes, Mr. Woodbury

I understand very well that some public program are underfonded. I understand very well that complaints from both parents and detainees are ignored because none really wants to help these kids. I understand very well that some kids are dead in public care.

But the solution is not a private sector. The solution is not making laws, which scares parent to jail their kids in advance. And just because a company can profit, the kids don't stop dying. Not during a program, not once released.

The solution is oversight. The solution is using what works and avoid those thing which doesn't work.

I must refer to a 600 pages report called the Maryland report:

PREVENTING CRIME: WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T, WHAT'S PROMISING
A REPORT TO THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS
Prepared for the National Institute of Justice by Lawrence W. Sherman, Denise Gottfredson, Doris MacKenzie, John Eck, Peter Reuter, and Shawn Bushway in collaboration with members of the Graduate Program Department of Criminology and Criminal Justice University of Maryland

Here some researchers have checked up on Boot Camp, Wilderness therapy, Supermax for Children, Scared straight, corporal punishment etc. you name it.

Because you are very busy lobbying for private program, I will save you the time to read it and tell you what the conclusion is:

1) Start early. Report problems at home discovered by kindergarten or pre-school. Visit the home and help parents by introducing boundaries and fix their mental problems if those exist.
2) Extra teachers visiting the home. Prevents also child abuse.
3) School based program. No alternative school because then you put all the problem children in the same place where they can become a part of a negative peer group. Here in Denmark we have good results with serving breakfast in school and the so-called home work cafe's where retired teachers and nerds receive a little pay to help academically struggling youth. Gives self-esteem to nerds also.
4) In severe cases turn the home into a residential setting with cameras combined with intense family therapy or remove the entire family to a residential setting.

Lets get some oversight of both public and private programs. Lets focus on what works for both poor and rich. Dont let the childs chances of success depend on the welfare of the family.

Thats my two cent.

According to a worried parent on another board she has a CEDU past.

Who is this woman and what do we know about her?

They have ordered the poor lonely mother off the campus because they think that the son and the mother are too "co-dependent". And the son needs his mom and she needs him too because she is bullied at her work. She cannot quit because she then needs "to save her sons life" and has to go to work every day taking all the dirty words etc. It is a hard time when it comes to money.

So in order to help her a little (Some parents are human) lets digg up what dirty clothes his new director has in her closet. We have infiltrated this parent board, so we can pm the mom secretly.