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General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: Froderik on June 02, 2010, 11:24:09 AM
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So I'm seeing all these threads every day that are either by or about Danny Bennison, and keep getting the gist that he (you, Danny, if you're reading this) is an unrepentant Elan staff member. What's this about? I'd sort of like for it to resolve itself somehow so that this forum can get back to its usual eclectic variety of Open Free For All threads about whatever the hell...and off of the tiresome, well-worn track it's been on lately...
Anyone care to sum up?
And Danny- if you could try to take the high road and quit stirring shit up here (if you are in fact doing this, which i suspect you may be doing), I'd appreciate it... thanks. Take a break and think about what people are saying.
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I don't really know, as he avoids questions he doesn't like. He's a former Elan staffer, Assistant Director according to him. He runs thru all the threads demanding to know others' histories, but won't answer questions about his history. He's a big fan of Whooter....been practically crawling up his ass lately. If you read even a few of his rants, you'll recognize the "staff" in him.
I don't really know what his purpose is here, other than to show off his illiteracy (it's pretty bad) and generally annoy this shit out of everyone.
Btw....the more I read about Elan and Joe Ricci, the more it reminds me of Straight under Virgil's command. Pretty fucking twisted.
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I don't really know, as he avoids questions he doesn't like. He's a former Elan staffer, Assistant Director according to him. He runs thru all the threads demanding to know others' histories, but won't answer questions about his history. He's a big fan of Whooter....been practically crawling up his ass lately. If you read even a few of his rants, you'll recognize the "staff" in him.
I don't really know what his purpose is here, other than to show off his illiteracy (it's pretty bad) and generally annoy this shit out of everyone.
Btw....the more I read about Elan and Joe Ricci, the more it reminds me of Straight under Virgil's command. Pretty fucking twisted.
Froderick this type of poster I have been dealing with since I got here. She is a bore. In time she will wain.
Now this is your girl from, "Straight Inc" so you deal with her.
Danny
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You are entertaining.....I'll give you that.
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Froderick this type of poster I have been dealing with since I got here. She is a bore. In time she will wain.
From Wikipedia (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wain):
wain is a type of horse-drawn, load-carrying vehicle, used for agricultural purposes rather than transporting people, for example a haywain. It normally has four wheels but the term has now acquired slightly poetical connotations so is not always used with technical correctness. However, a two-wheeled 'haywain' would be a hay cart, as opposed to a carriage. "Wain" is also an archaic term for chariot.
(http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/John_Constable_The_Hay_Wain.jpg/300px-John_Constable_The_Hay_Wain.jpg)[/list]
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Froderick this type of poster I have been dealing with since I got here. She is a bore. In time she will wain.
From Wikipedia (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wain):
wain is a type of horse-drawn, load-carrying vehicle, used for agricultural purposes rather than transporting people, for example a haywain. It normally has four wheels but the term has now acquired slightly poetical connotations so is not always used with technical correctness. However, a two-wheeled 'haywain' would be a hay cart, as opposed to a carriage. "Wain" is also an archaic term for chariot.
(http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/John_Constable_The_Hay_Wain.jpg/300px-John_Constable_The_Hay_Wain.jpg)[/list]
Ya know....I started pointing out all his errors, but there were just too damned many, so I gave up. I understand typos and occasional mis-spellings, but his stuff is just rife with them. Too many to keep track or make fun of. Besides, it kinda feels like I'm picking on a retarded kid.
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My Ursus and Anne you folks are such, well you know....dumbasses. Ya know my grandfather you to say, "you can't be to dumb to get life but you surely can be to smart." I see it everyday here. Some of you folks are just to intelligent to get out of your way.
And there's a page taken straight out of the AA playbook. You're not only intellectually challenged, you're oh-so predictable as well.
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Now, for educational purposes......
http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/di ... ootwo.html (http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/totootwo.html)
To has two functions. First, as a preposition, in which case it always precedes a noun.
I'm going to the store
He went to Italy
This belongs to David
Secondly, to indicates an infinitive when it precedes a verb.
I need to study
We want to help
He's going to eat
Too
Too also has two uses. First, as a synonym for "also":
Can I go too?
He went to France too
I think that's Paul's book too
Secondly, too means excessively when it precedes an adjective or adverb.
I'm too tired
He's walking too quickly
I ate too much
Two
Two is a number.
One, two, three...
I have two cars
She ate two pieces of pie
The Bottom Line
The confusion between to, too, and two occurs because the three words are pronounced identically.
One: If you're able to replace the word with "also" or "excessively/too much," use too. Two: If the word is a number, use two. Otherwise, you'll want to use to.
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I am really sorry that I did not write "wane", as in wax and wane but I think I will stay with my original word that my brother suggested and say wain. As in a wagon that hauls organic matter out.
Do I need to say more, "as in Anne (organic matter) will be hauled out".
My Ursus and Anne you folks are such, well you know....dumbasses. Ya know my grandfather would say, "you can't be to dumb in life but you surely can be to smart." I see it everyday here. Some of you folks are just to intelligent to get out of your way. Stop canalizing Ursus it not what you do. You copy and post.
God, you really are dumber than a stump aren't you? Why'd you delete your first reply, only to replace it with pretty much an identical post later? Oh....I see.....to get in another dig at Ursus. Buddy, give it up. He is waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy out of your league. There is a difference between copy/pasta and providing citations for what you post. Can you grasp that concept or is it too (notice the correct usage of "too") much for ya?
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Ya know my grandfather would say, "you can't be to dumb in life but you surely can be to smart." I see it everyday here. Some of you folks are just to intelligent to get out of your way.
Don't want none o' that fancy book-learnin' now do we?
http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2009/03/25/t ... too-smart/ (http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2009/03/25/there-are-none-too-dumb-for-the-aa-program-but-many-are-too-smart/)
"There are none too dumb for the AA program, but many are too smart."
Bullshit slogan of the day:
There are none too dumb for the AA program, but many are too smart.
Translation: Don’t question the absurdity of what you see, regardless of how batshit crazy it happens to be.
This saying, along with its ugly cousins like – your best thinking got you here, stinking drinking thinking, take the cotton out of your ears and put it into your mouth; and, don’t drink, don’t think and go to meetings – are used to shut someone down who might have an original thought. This poor guy below us had the nerve to ask why the Lord’s prayer is used in an a meeting that is spiritual, not religious.
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Froderick this type of poster I have been dealing with since I got here. She is a bore. In time she will wain.
From Wikipedia (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wain):
wain is a type of horse-drawn, load-carrying vehicle, used for agricultural purposes rather than transporting people, for example a haywain. It normally has four wheels but the term has now acquired slightly poetical connotations so is not always used with technical correctness. However, a two-wheeled 'haywain' would be a hay cart, as opposed to a carriage. "Wain" is also an archaic term for chariot.
(http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/John_Constable_The_Hay_Wain.jpg/300px-John_Constable_The_Hay_Wain.jpg)[/list]
I am really sorry that I did not write "wane", as in wax and wane but I think I will stay with my original word that my brother suggested and say wain. As in a wagon that hauls organic matter out.
Do I need to say more, "as in Anne (organic matter) will be hauled out".
My Ursus and Anne you folks are such, well you know....dumbasses. Ya know my grandfather would say, "you can't be to dumb in life but you surely can be to smart." I see it everyday here. Some of you folks are just to intelligent to get out of your way. Stop canalizing Ursus it not what you do. You copy and post.
Ya know, I do so very much enjoy puns and the multiple layers sometimes wrought from language...
Ordinarily, I usually don't correct folk's misspellings and the like; it's not like we don't all do it from time to time, but in this case I just couldn't resist. Ya see, it's precisely the very irony of that word uttered by Danny himself, in light of the title of this thread, that just tickled me pink. :D
So let me ask you this, Danny: you lay all this horse manure out on thread after thread, and yet you expect others to cart it out for you? Geeezzz Loiuse... :eek:
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Don't want none o' that fancy book-learnin' now do we?
http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2009/03/25/t ... too-smart/ (http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2009/03/25/there-are-none-too-dumb-for-the-aa-program-but-many-are-too-smart/)
"There are none too dumb for the AA program, but many are too smart."
Bullshit slogan of the day:
There are none too dumb for the AA program, but many are too smart.
Translation: Don’t question the absurdity of what you see, regardless of how batshit crazy it happens to be.
I'm not sure I'd interpret it exactly that way. Know how telemarketing firms research their scripts? One objective to minimize time spent with people too smart to just hang up. Another is to identify those with a propensity to just go along and do as they're told. I think it's like that. Even if you were completely unfamiliar w/ Stepcraft culture, can you imagine voluntarily sitting for more than about half a second past "but many are too smart?" I can't.
Anyway, Anne, please let me know before you go waining. Sounds like a lot of fun! Like a hay ride or something. Not as much fun as a yacht trip, but hey.
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This is why I always pretend to be stupid and compliant with telemarketers, right before I click on this (http://http://disneyworld-.ytmnd.com/) (Warning: Ear rape!), put the phone right next to the speakers, and pump up the volume.
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Froderick this type of poster I have been dealing with since I got here. She is a bore. In time she will wain.
From Wikipedia (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wain):
wain is a type of horse-drawn, load-carrying vehicle, used for agricultural purposes rather than transporting people, for example a haywain. It normally has four wheels but the term has now acquired slightly poetical connotations so is not always used with technical correctness. However, a two-wheeled 'haywain' would be a hay cart, as opposed to a carriage. "Wain" is also an archaic term for chariot.
(http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/John_Constable_The_Hay_Wain.jpg/300px-John_Constable_The_Hay_Wain.jpg)[/list]
I am really sorry that I did not write "wane", as in wax and wane but I think I will stay with my original word that my brother suggested and say wain. As in a wagon that hauls organic matter out.
Do I need to say more, "as in Anne (organic matter) will be hauled out".
My Ursus and Anne you folks are such, well you know....dumbasses. Ya know my grandfather would say, "you can't be to dumb in life but you surely can be to smart." I see it everyday here. Some of you folks are just to intelligent to get out of your way. Stop canalizing Ursus it not what you do. You copy and post.
Ya know, I do so very much enjoy puns and the multiple layers sometimes wrought from language...
Ordinarily, I usually don't correct folk's misspellings and the like; it's not like we don't all do it from time to time, but in this case I just couldn't resist. Ya see, it's precisely the very irony of that word uttered by Danny himself, in light of the title of this thread, that just tickled me pink. :D
So let me ask you this, Danny: you lay all this horse manure out on thread after thread, and yet you expect others to cart it out for you? Geeezzz Loiuse... :eek:
DannyB II wrote:
What is sad is Ursus trying to disguise his mistake, you thought I had made a error in spelling. No my friend as usual you are quick to judge. Now just be there and be quiet. You were wrong.
As my grandfather said, "you can't be to dumb in life but you can be to smart."
So let me ask you this, Ursus: you lay all this horse manure out on thread after thread, and yet you expect others to cart it out for you? Geeezzz Loiuse... :eek:
DannyB II wrote:
Ya know Ursus one could remove Danny and replace it with you easily. Your opinions on the industry are very old and ordinary. I am sorry if I'm attacking your goddess (Ginger) but she over stepped her place again. Relax it will be over soon. Please do tell chatter box (she sure likes showing her box) that it is not compelling for a woman to be so loud, Ursus I'm sure your wife is not so obnoxious.
Last, "I'm out of your league".....hmmmmm. I would not have thought that. One never knows.
Danny
Lol, you've edited your post so many times, it's hardly recognizable any more! But don't let me stop ya! Keep on trying to edit that thing, it might just turn into a piece of the English verse yet! :nods:
Sorry to have to enlighten you on this, but I seriously doubt that there is a single solitary person out there reading ... who does not know, to the very marrow of their bone, that your usage of the word "wain" was completely unintentional. :D
But no matter. No need to belabor that too unduly.
What I do find curious, however, particularly in light of some of your recent posts, is your utterance of this particular phrase: "Relax it will be over soon." Are you perchance planning on participating in some kinda fornits-Armageddon?
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I don't really know, as he avoids questions he doesn't like. He's a former Elan staffer, Assistant Director according to him. He runs thru all the threads demanding to know others' histories, but won't answer questions about his history. He's a big fan of Whooter....been practically crawling up his ass lately. If you read even a few of his rants, you'll recognize the "staff" in him.
I don't really know what his purpose is here, other than to show off his illiteracy (it's pretty bad) and generally annoy this shit out of everyone.
Btw....the more I read about Elan and Joe Ricci, the more it reminds me of Straight under Virgil's command. Pretty fucking twisted.
Froderick this type of poster I have been dealing with since I got here. She is a bore. In time she will wain.
Now this is your girl from, "Straight Inc" so you deal with her.
Danny
Alright first of all, and before I read the rest of the replies: Why do you have two screen names, or is this someone else?
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This site has got to be the funniest thing on the net.. I have been laughing my ass, time and time again for days now. There are some funny fucking people on this site, and I am not even being sarcastic.
lil' John Wain
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This site has got to be the funniest thing on the net.. I have been laughing my ass, time and time again for days now. There are some funny fucking people on this site, and I am not even being sarcastic.
lil' John Wain
"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."
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LOL!
Oh C'mon Danny! Can t you just admit that you fucked up the word.. Nobody gives a shit.
Ursus is organic matter that has to be shipped away.. LOL
Your brother came up with that?
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LOL!
Oh C'mon Danny! Can t you just admit that you fucked up the word.. Nobody gives a shit.
Well if I had fucked up the word why is it so apropos.
A better question would be why didn t you mention how "apropos" (LMAO!) it was until someone mentioned it. You never said anything about the name of the thread until someone else did. The way you like to win battles, I am just a bit thrown that you didn t bring that up immediately.
Ursus is organic matter that has to be shipped away.. LOL
Dude you really don't know what this post is about do you, try reading the whole thing.
I did.. You do know that all people are organic matter.. right?
Your brother came up with that?
Ya, that's what bro's do. What, you don't have one.
They do what? Act as your scapegoat ?
I have 2 of them. Why? would it matter if I didn t.. or are you just trying to get information out of me, so you can use it against me later..
Bye Bye
LOL! You are so funny Danny, and you don t even know it
Danny
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lil' John Wain
:rofl: Dude man! You know you can change your username, right? Just go into the User Control Panel or click private messages and look for profile settings or such like that.
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lil' John Wain
:rofl: Dude man! You know you can change your username, right? Just go into the User Control Panel or click private messages and look for profile settings or such like that.
lol
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This is why I always pretend to be stupid and compliant with telemarketers, right before I click on this (http://http://disneyworld-.ytmnd.com/) (Warning: Ear rape!), put the phone right next to the speakers, and pump up the volume.
I used to do the same thing with a sound bite from a porn flick.
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So anyway, it's always good to hear people speaking out about cases of abuse and the overall abusive nature of these places, like Elan. Of course then you have those who attempt to hide and argue against the truth -- lying to themselves first, usually. Hopefully this sort of thing will decrease as dialogue continues, and people will be as understanding of and respectful to one another as they can be under the circumstances.
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I'm not sure I'd interpret it exactly that way. Know how telemarketing firms research their scripts? One objective to minimize time spent with people too smart to just hang up. Another is to identify those with a propensity to just go along and do as they're told. I think it's like that. Even if you were completely unfamiliar w/ Stepcraft culture, can you imagine voluntarily sitting for more than about half a second past "but many are too smart?" I can't.
No. No, I can't.
Anyway, Anne, please let me know before you go waining. Sounds like a lot of fun! Like a hay ride or something. Not as much fun as a yacht trip, but hey.
I hope we can have a big ol' bonfire! 8) :cheers: :rasta:
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people will be as understanding of and respectful to one another as they can be under the circumstances.
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lying to themselves
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people will be as understanding of and respectful to one another as they can be under the circumstances.
:rofl: :roflmao:
lying to themselves
Of course there are stubborn folks that just can't be reasoned with.
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I hope we can have a big ol' bonfire! 8) :cheers: :rasta:
- Big ol' bonfire party! - :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker:
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This is why I always pretend to be stupid and compliant with telemarketers, right before I click on this (http://http://disneyworld-.ytmnd.com/) (Warning: Ear rape!), put the phone right next to the speakers, and pump up the volume.
I used to do the same thing with a sound bite from a porn flick.
I like to just listen long enough to find out what they're shilling and then start quoting them website dev and hosting prices.
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Anne please, you fuck with "Whooter" and have your ass handed to you on a daily bases, "suck it" took you for a ride then dumped your ass off when you tried riding him, girl you have have tried to fuck with me but you can't
In your deluded little mind, dear. You guys are a way to pass the time at work.
I told you a long time ago, close your legs and maybe with can get serious about our relationship.
Ok...you're starting to creep me out a little.
AA traumatized you in such a way your path lead you here. I think you walked into a AA meeting along with your little friend Ginger opened your mouth and was immediately escorted from the room. You have been crying about it ever since. Bad AA people, did not want to hear my story.
Oh well......
Danny
Hey....you're the one who can't function without someone else to tell them how to live. Isn't it about time to check in with your sponsor?
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Why doesn't someone find him where he lives and give him some payback???? ::unhappy::
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Anne please, you fuck with "Whooter" and have your ass handed to you on a daily bases, "suck it" took you for a ride then dumped your ass off when you tried riding him, girl you have have tried to fuck with me but you can'
In your deluded little mind, dear. You guys are a way to pass the time at work.
You are such pompous ass, your treading waters Annie.
I told you a long time ago, close your legs and maybe with can get serious about our relationship.
Ok...you're starting to creep me out a little.
I'm creeping you out....lol. You spread your legs in the open and you have the mouth to go with it.
AA traumatized you in such a way your path lead you here. I think you walked into a AA meeting along with your little friend Ginger opened your mouth and was immediately escorted from the room. You have been crying about it ever since. Bad AA people, did not want to hear my story.
Oh well......
Hey....you're the one who can't function without someone else to tell them how to live. Isn't it about time to check in with your sponsor?
Anne you do not understand AA so please don't try and quote. I do not have a sponser and have not had one in over 15 yrs. What I do have is friends that have my back. Know about them Annie and I'm not talking about the one you mount, friends Annie. No I don't think so.
Danny
Is this the way you generally speak to women, Danny? Whatever happened to the mother of your children?
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One just has to love this, especially if your someone like me. I "get" to read all this arrogant self centered posting from the like of Froderick or whoever. The same Froderick who appears to understand repent and unrepentant.
Hmmmmmm......well Frod I would like to start at the beginning here and understand how you came to the conclusion that I am a unrepentant Staff. Second why do I have to here (not the obvious) and third how can I refrain from telling you to STFU asswipe.
Danny
Here ya go sweetie. Poor little dear. :rofl:
http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/di ... youre.html (http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/youryoure.html)
Your vs You're
What's the difference between your and you're? Your presence on this page means you're about to find out.
Your
Your is the second person possessive adjective, used to describe something as belonging to you. Your is nearly always followed by a noun.
What is your name?
Is this your pen?
Your book is on the table.
This is your chair and this is mine.
What happened to your dog?
Your being here is causing some problems.
You're
You're is the contraction of "you are" and is often followed by the present participle (verb form ending in -ing).
You're going to be late.
Is that what you're wearing?
I think you're lying.
If you're ready, we can go.
I can't believe you're a doctor!
When you're my age, you'll understand.
The Bottom Line
The confusion between your and you're occurs because the two words are pronounced pretty much the same.
The ironclad rule - no exceptions - is that if you're able to replace the word with "you are," you're saying you're. Otherwise, your only choice is your.
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Why doesn't someone find him where he lives and give him some payback???? ::unhappy::
:poison: Pizza Delivery :poison:
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I'm creeping you out....lol. You spread your legs in the open and you have the mouth to go with it.
What the hell are you talking about? I get the potty mouth reference, but wtf is the spreading the legs deal? This is why people are seriously starting to wonder about your sanity.
Anne you do not understand AA so please don't try and quote.
I'll quote it's cultlike characteristics all goddamned day long if I feel like it. Your SPD and attempts at controlling everything explains your continued association with cultlike entities. It's that guru complex that the most sadistic staff had and the 'lost child' complex that made kids so vulnerable to the mindfuck. I tell ya dude...you really are a perfect example of what a lot of us are talking about with regards to AA and it's similarities to aspects of programs. If you're what AA is turning out it's doors these days, then it just convinces me even more that it's harmful to sane, compassionate and critically thinking people.
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Your ideas about AA are built on the conclusions you fostered in Straight.
No, they're not. They're based on my experiences with it after Straight and research.
Annie darling you have no concept of just how crazy I am....LOL. That is what most like so much about me is my insanity.
Is this more of this veiled threat you keep tossing at me? I gotta tell ya....I don't like it at all. You really are starting to creep me out now.
Your avatar Anne spread it wider.
Oh, for fuck's sake.....it's a goddamned cartoon pirate.
Your cultlike bla bla, my gurrrrrruuuuu complex bla bla, mindfucking bla bla, perfect example bla bla, this is the best you can do
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Yeah, I know....you don't go fer nun o' dat fancy book lernin. 'dem smart peepl sho is dumm.
No you will not quote anything to do with AA you are not qualified to do so.
Danny
I "will not"??? Is that an order?
Please stop it.
No.
http://stinkin-thinkin.com/ (http://stinkin-thinkin.com/)
“That Isn’t AA!”
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AA is NOT treatment centers. AA is not and never will be affiliated with treatment centers. AA has NOTHING to do with treatment centers.
Jeez. No wonder ppl think AA has gone down the pan. I am astonished that the public have been conned into thinking that 5000 dollar a week hotels have any meaningful similarity to an AA meeting or how AA meetings operate. How sad. The greedy fatcat treatment centre owners have eclipsed the public profile of AA meetings to such an extent that the ordinary public has no clue which is which.
Whatever. Nothing surprises me anymore. AA is frequently misperceived, so nothing new there. But it is still very sad that the fake ‘AA’ in treatment centers is passing for the real AA in AA meetings. The only reason I care is because fake AA doesn’t keep people sober for very long at all. Which is sad, but there is nothing I can do about that. I just stick to what I know, which is listed AA meetings as opposed to poorly hijacked AA methods in treatment centers.”
One of our readers, “Irish Friend of Bill”, wrote the above in our comment section. I wanted to highlight it, and post a link to a post we made a few months ago, “The Knickerbocker Complex and the Evolution of 12-Step Quackery”, which explains the evolution of addiction treatment, and how AA was an integral part in creating what we now have in terms of treatment. The book Slaying the Dragon, which is referenced in this post, is a very good history of the alcohol addiction treatment industry, and is actually written by an AA apologist. It glosses AA little, but it is a fair account. I would recommend it to anyone who really interested in this subject, particularly Irish.
Anyone who has been in a 12-step treatment centre, which represents the overwhelming majority of facilities, would find the idea that these aren’t “really AA” to be laughable. Many are run by ‘recovering’ AA members, and meetings within the facilities are chaired by local AAs who volunteer their time. AA literature is used, including the ‘Big Book’, and AA supplies the “aftercare” for released patients. Not surprisingly, their success is the identical 5%, which is a zero percent effectiveness rate. The only thing to distinguish this from “regular AA”, is the name – Twelve-Step Facilitation (TSF). This is done only because AA does not “lend its name” to any other organization. It’s simply a slick way to push AA without calling it AA. Here is the description taken from the TSF manual for the Project MATCH study:
“Twelve Step Facilitation Approach. This therapy is grounded in the concept of alcoholism as a spiritual and medical disease. The content of this intervention is consistent with the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous (AA), with primary emphasis given to Steps 1 through 5. In addition to abstinence from alcohol, a major goal of the treatment is to foster the patient’s commitment to participation in AA. During the course of the program’s 12 sessions, patients are actively encouraged to attend AA meetings and to maintain journals of their AA attendance and participation. Therapy sessions are highly structured, following a similar format each week that includes symptoms inquiry, review and reinforcement for AA participation, introduction and explication of the week’s theme, and setting goals for AA participation for the next week. Material introduced during treatment sessions is complemented by reading assignments from AA literature (p. x)….The therapeutic approach underlying this manual is grounded in the principles and 12 Steps of AA (p. xi)….The program described here is intended to be consistent with active involvement in Alcoholics Anonymous….It adheres to the concepts set forth in the “Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions” of Alcoholics Anonymous….The overall goal of this program is to facilitate patients’ active participation in the fellowship of AA. It regards such active involvement as the primary factor responsible for sustained sobriety (“recovery”) and therefore as the desired outcome of participation in this program (p. 1)….This treatment program has two major goals which relate directly to the first three steps of Alcoholics Anonymous (p. 2)….The two major treatment goals are reflected in a series of specific objectives that are congruent with the AA view of alcoholism (p. 3)….Central to this approach is strong encouragement of the patient to attend several AA meetings per week of different kinds and to read the “Big Book” (“Alcoholics Anonymous”) as well as other AA publications throughout the course of treatment (p. 4)….The goal of the conjoint sessions is to educate the partner regarding alcoholism and the AA model, to introduce the concept of enabling, and to encourage partners to make a commitment to attend six Al-Anon meetings of their choice (p. 5)….[P]atients should be consistently encouraged to turn to the resources of AA as the basis for their recovery (p. 6)….Suggestions made by the 12-Step therapist should be consistent with what is found in AA-approved publications such as those that are recommended to patients (p. 8)….Encouraging patients to actively work the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous is the primary goal of treatment, as opposed to any skill that the therapist can teach (p. 10)….The therapist acts as a resource and advocate of the 12-Step approach to recovery (p. 11)….In this program, the fellowship of AA, and not the individual therapist, is seen as the major agent of change (p. 14)….The 12-Step therapist should not only be familiar with many AA slogans but should actively use them in therapy to promote involvement in AA and advise patients in how to handle difficult situations (p. 15)….In approaching alcoholic patients using this program…[t]here is…no cure for alcoholism; rather, there is only a method for arresting the process, which is active participation in the 12-Step program of Alcoholics Anonymous (p. 33). (Nowinski et al., 1995)” (Schaler, Jeffrey “Addiction is a Choice”)
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DannyB II wrote:
Your ideas about AA are built on the conclusions you fostered in Straight. Annie darling you have no concept of just how crazy I am....LOL. That is what most like so much about me is my insanity. Your avatar Anne spread it wider.
No you will not quote anything to do with AA you are not qualified to do so. Please stop it.
Danny:
Your avatar Anne spread it wider.
Hey Danny.. I just want to make sure. You do know that that avatar is not actually Anne, right?
and Danny concludes:
No you will not quote anything to do with AA you are not qualified to do so. Please stop it.
The great and powerful Danny has spoken!
When the fuck are you going to get it asshole? You do not have power over other people. I honestly feel a lil sorry for you.
Paul
:shamrock: ::unhappy::
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So I'm seeing all these threads every day that are either by or about Danny Bennison, and keep getting the gist that he (you, Danny, if you're reading this) is an unrepentant Elan staff member. What's this about? I'd sort of like for it to resolve itself somehow so that this forum can get back to its usual eclectic variety of Open Free For All threads about whatever the hell...and off of the tiresome, well-worn track it's been on lately...
Anyone care to sum up?
And Danny- if you could try to take the high road and quit stirring shit up here (if you are in fact doing this, which i suspect you may be doing), I'd appreciate it... thanks. Take a break and think about what people are saying.[/quote
One just has to love this, especially if your someone like me. I "get" to read all this arrogant self centered posting from the like of Froderick or whoever. The same Froderick who appears to understand repent and unrepentant.
Hmmmmmm......well Frod I would like to start at the beginning here and understand how you came to the conclusion that I am a unrepentant Staff. Second why do I have to here (not the obvious) and third how can I refrain from telling you to STFU asswipe.
Danny
I never came to that conclusion...it just seems to be what people have been saying about you.
My only intention was to clarify whether or not that is true.
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Re: Yer Daily Avatar
by Ursus » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:36 am
Paul St. John wrote:
DannyB II wrote:
Anne Bonney wrote:
DannyB II wrote:
I'm creeping you out....lol. You spread your legs in the open and you have the mouth to go with it.
What the hell are you talking about? I get the potty mouth reference, but wtf is the spreading the legs deal? This is why people are seriously starting to wonder about your sanity.
Annie darling you have no concept of just how crazy I am....LOL. That is what most like so much about me is my insanity. Your avatar Anne spread it wider.
Hey Danny.. I just want to make sure. You do know that that avatar is not actually Anne, right?
Danny would appear to have a ... uh ... perhaps unhealthy obsession with Anne Bonney's avatar. Just wanna make sure we get that on record, just in case anything happens to it!
LMAO!
Here is some previous commentary from the former Assistant Director, directed at that precocious little cartoon character:
From 26 Mar 2010, in Name that Abuser/Director:
"Anne this post will be one of my worst probably to date because I find you very disgusting down to your filthy avatar, which speaks volumes about you.
No I will not talk to you about anything to do with Mary O'Brian, nor do I really want to discuss anything else with you.
Your a douche bag, ya know the kind that provides a service and then when your done ya throw it away. Your time is over....bye. Only in your case the repulsive smell never goes away.
You don't give a shit about these kids, you care about your 15 mins. of attention. How you look on Fornits, you make me sick. Your a publicity whore. You and Felice.....
So please stay away from me...just fuck off.
Please repost this over and over and stick on your bedroom mirror.
Danny"
From 26 Mar 2010 in Elan discussion from New Forum Policies:
"...From a women that has a avatar flashing her genitals, ya I don't get it.....keep it coming Anne.
Danny "
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Re: Yer Daily Avatar
by Ursus » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:36 am
Sorry, I yanked it right after I posted it, thinking that maybe Frod wanted a more contemplative reply after his post (which I hadn't originally noticed when I commenced typing)... but, since ya brought it up, here it is:
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I'm creeping you out....lol. You spread your legs in the open and you have the mouth to go with it.
What the hell are you talking about? I get the potty mouth reference, but wtf is the spreading the legs deal? This is why people are seriously starting to wonder about your sanity.
Annie darling you have no concept of just how crazy I am....LOL. That is what most like so much about me is my insanity. Your avatar Anne spread it wider.
Hey Danny.. I just want to make sure. You do know that that avatar is not actually Anne, right?
Danny would appear to have a ... uh ... perhaps unhealthy obsession with Anne Bonney's avatar. Just wanna make sure we get that on record, just in case anything happens to IT!
Here is some previous commentary from the former Assistant Director, directed at that precocious little cartoon character:
From 26 Mar 2010 (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30075&p=360021#p360021), in Name that Abuser/Director:
"Anne this post will be one of my worst probably to date because I find you very disgusting down to your
filthy avatar, which speaks volumes about you.
No I will not talk to you about anything to do with Mary O'Brian, nor do I really want to discuss anything else with you.
Your a douche bag, ya know the kind that provides a service and then when your done ya throw it away. Your time is over....bye. Only in your case the repulsive smell never goes away.
You don't give a shit about these kids, you care about your 15 mins. of attention. How you look on Fornits, you make me sick. Your a publicity whore. You and Felice.....
So please stay away from me...just fuck off.
Please repost this over and over and stick on your bedroom mirror.
Danny"[/list]
From 26 Mar 2010 (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=29840&p=360082#p360082) in Elan discussion from New Forum Policies:
"...From a women that has a
avatar flashing her genitals, ya I don't get it.....keep it coming Anne.
Danny "[/list]
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All of these years I have been looking at Annes Avatar I have never noticed that the CARTOON was pornographic.
It seems that Danny just can not keep his mind or eyes off of her CARTOON CROCH ::OMG::
I am laughing so hard I can hardly type :roflmao:
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What the hell are you talking about? I get the potty mouth reference, but wtf is the spreading the legs deal? This is why people are seriously starting to wonder about your sanity.
I am starting to think that Danny was Molested by a CARTOON, when he was a little "alter" boy.
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All of these years I have been looking at Annes Avatar I have never noticed that the CARTOON was pornographic.
It seems that Danny just can not keep his mind or eyes off of her CARTOON CROCH ::OMG::
I am laughing so hard I can hardly type :roflmao:
I know....I am too! :rofl:
Actually, truth be told.....I think this was the avatar that I had before the switch from one of the moves....
(http://http://www.clydecaldwell.com/jpgs/large_images/sea_fox.jpg)
Then I couldn't find the original one and it was lost in the move in the fornits catalog of avatars so I grabbed this latest, but in any event - don't care. I like 'em both! That's where the screen name comes from too. Anne Bonney and Mary Read were infamous lady pirates. :nods:
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From 26 Mar 2010 in Elan discussion from New Forum Policies:
"...From a women that has a avatar flashing her genitals, ya I don't get it.....keep it coming Anne.
Danny "
I am going to have to inspect that in photoshop.
I'll let you know if I find A CARTOON FLASHING IT'S GENITALS??? :on phone:
Danny must be getting some pretty skanky pussy......
He assumes that Women do not wear sexy things you can see to whet your appetitie when they spread their CARTOON LEGS.
This just screams $5.00 crack ho all over it.....hmmmmm
Can I get an Inkblot? :rasta:
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Sure, here's an inkblot, tell me what you see...
(http://http://rule34-images.paheal.net/c7ad81321341b02ad7b1e7298d29f400/175891%20-%20Chris%20Jesus%20Joy%20Superbook%20cross%20som.png)
(Cartoon porn upsets Danny? Really? Oh man someone should have shown him, like, the rest of the fucking Internet a while ago...)
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Ummmm...
Thread killer?
anyway.. I saved Anne's currently avatar, magnify it on paint, and I still couldn't see any hairy clam or nipples.
Not sure wtf Danny is mumbling about.
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Why doesn't someone find him where he lives and give him some payback???? ::unhappy::
That would be the easy way out for him, let him wallow in his own twisted guilt ridden life for awhile.
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All of these years I have been looking at Annes Avatar I have never noticed that the CARTOON was pornographic.
It seems that Danny just can not keep his mind or eyes off of her CARTOON CROCH ::OMG::
I am laughing so hard I can hardly type :roflmao:
I know....I am too! :rofl:
Actually, truth be told.....I think this was the avatar that I had before the switch from one of the moves....
(http://http://www.clydecaldwell.com/jpgs/large_images/sea_fox.jpg)
Then I couldn't find the original one and it was lost in the move in the fornits catalog of avatars so I grabbed this latest, but in any event - don't care. I like 'em both! That's where the screen name comes from too. Anne Bonney and Mary Read were infamous lady pirates. :nods:
Fuck truth be told I wish I had the body of the cartoon..lmao Danny is just pissed off he has to go home to what he has waiting there...................
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:jawdrop: Danny tell them to go to hell and find someone else to pick on,I am sure allot is in fun but some of them I know like the sickness. The past is the past and is what it is. People need to move on. :karma: :karma: :karma:
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Jeesh I'm sure Annie enjoyed reading that all again because I did..... :cheers: . Would you post the rest of my outrageous remarks I've made please. I just can't remember so many. Your such a great guy Ursus you embarrass Anne while trying to get back at me, in other words your a idiot. :notworthy:
Why on earth would *I* be embarrassed? I didn't write it.
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Jeesh I'm sure Annie enjoyed reading that all again because I did..... :cheers: . Would you post the rest of my outrageous remarks I've made please. I just can't remember so many. Your such a great guy Ursus you embarrass Anne while trying to get back at me, in other words your a idiot. :notworthy:
Why on earth would *I* be embarrassed? I didn't write it.
THIS PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY CAMP EUGENICS IN HISTORICAL SPRING GREEN. :clown:
"We got really sick of dealing with :shamrock: TOTAL FUCKIN IDIOTS :dose: so we sent them to camp."
"We went to the House On the Rock and then had Supermaximum fun!" :sue:
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:roflmao: Size 00 Batshit Loopy...............nice pic!
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You really don't know how much of a slut you look like do you, most normal folks our laughing Anne trust me.
Translation: Me and my Bible Study AA Groupthink Right Wing Conservative Jesus FREAK....sitting around looking for CARTOON CROTCHES TO MORRALY POLICE :notworthy:
Thank yoooooooooou Danny for the Happieness Humor Therapy.
This was fun.
Are you sure you are not from Wisconsin...yer so cheeeesy, like velvita..oh no GOVERNMENT FOOD PANTRY CHEESE LOG.
Scroll down to #4 http://http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesehead
When us FIB's used the term "Cheesehead" we were making a reference to the substance mistaken for the brain of a Wisconsinite.
Somehow this was misinterpreted to mean put a giant slice of cheese on your head as a fashion statement......seen at Lambeau Field at every Packers game.
FIB: "Those Cheeseheads all have an IQ of 70."
misinterpreted as~
Cheesehead: We need to put giant foam chunks of swiss on our heads!"
wisconsinite cheesehead idiot drunk alcoholic packers fan
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- Three lesbians - :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker:
(http://http://www.ninjapirate.com/images/lesbians.jpg)
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You really don't know how much of a slut you look like do you, most normal folks our laughing Anne trust me.
Translation: Me and my Bible Study AA Groupthink Right Wing Conservative Jesus FREAK....sitting around looking for CARTOON CROTCHES TO MORRALY POLICE :notworthy:
Thank yoooooooooou Danny for the Happieness Humor Therapy.
This was fun.
Are you sure you are not from Wisconsin...yer so cheeeesy, like velvita..oh no GOVERNMENT FOOD PANTRY CHEESE LOG.
Scroll down to #4 http://http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesehead
When us FIB's used the term "Cheesehead" we were making a reference to the substance mistaken for the brain of a Wisconsinite.
Somehow this was misinterpreted to mean put a giant slice of cheese on your head as a fashion statement......seen at Lambeau Field at every Packers game.
FIB: "Those Cheeseheads all have an IQ of 70."
misinterpreted as~
Cheesehead: We need to put giant foam chunks of swiss on our heads!"
wisconsinite cheesehead idiot drunk alcoholic packers fan
FElice........focus, focus this post was not about you, girl.
Yes Yes...back to the Anne Bonney CARTOON FLASHING GENITALS SHOW...WE MUST FUCK WITH THE LIITLE BIBLE THUMPERS EARLY IN THE MORN LEST WE HAVE ANOTHER SPANISH INQUISITION.....
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- President Bush - :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker:
(http://http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d39/girlofglow/BushTWAT-1.jpg)
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Sure, here's an inkblot, tell me what you see...
(http://http://rule34-images.paheal.net/c7ad81321341b02ad7b1e7298d29f400/175891%20-%20Chris%20Jesus%20Joy%20Superbook%20cross%20som.png)
(Cartoon porn upsets Danny? Really? Oh man someone should have shown him, like, the rest of the fucking Internet a while ago...)
Thanks for the Rorshach Test (inkblot)
where can I get more Jesus Porn?
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http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/Jesus/1 (http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/Jesus/1)
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I was busy listening to "The Dead Kennedy's" and "Corrosion of Conformity"...... :seg2:
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I was busy listening to "The Dead Kennedy's"
I "grew up" on them.. I had Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables before I got thrown into Straight. Not long after I got out, a band I played guitar for opened for them (and The Butthole Surfers) at WUST Music Hall in DC. It was a pretty large crowd at that gig, at least for me (about 2000 heads, they said). Jello shook my hand after we played. Great band, and it was certainly an honor to open for them.
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I'm Too Hung up on 'wain' To stop my convulsions. I've had Two of them which is Two Too many. I'm also bothered by 'canalizing' What is that? Maybe I don't want To know. It's uncomfortable To know Too much, Do you think so , Too? Well, that would make Two of us. It's all Too much To bear. ( or do I mean 'bare, or beer, as the scots pronounce it)
Worked with a guy who was simply off-scale intelligent. some time ago. He was a former Navy-nuke,And dissertation shy of a doctorate in international business. Also a mechanical engineer ( Navy-nuke, kinda goes with the territory) I read his dissertation.. Hoo Hah! Good stuff.
Anyway, It always shocked me to see the enmity with which he was treated, until i sort of figured it out. Institutional dumbness is about 'crabs in a bucket'.... see Segal's work on learned helplessness. ( No, not Steven, he' of the Kung-Fu movies, 'The man who never blinks') No, i mean the sadistic psychologist. Get My Point? J.O.M.
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yeah i did the AA route and the str8 route amongst others,remind me of how un qualified my opinion is again,pleeeese. :twofinger: