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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Public Sector Gulags => Topic started by: Oscar on April 20, 2011, 04:28:28 AM
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A video from the jail did show that there was a juvenile offender program the supervisors didn't know about. Somehow teenagers who was suspended at school ended up in prison, shackled and in cuffs where they would do various task while being restrained for "a talk"
Juvenile program that included boy on sheriff video was unknown to two county officials (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12609899/article-Juvenile-program-that-included-boy-on-sheriff-video-was-unknown-to-two-county-officials), by Cameron Steele, Star Staff Writer, April 3, 2011
Lets hope that the investigation will produce evidence of how such things can occur.
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A video from the jail did show that there was a juvenile offender program the supervisors didn't know about. Somehow teenagers who was suspended at school ended up in prison, shackled and in cuffs where they would do various task while being restrained for "a talk"
There's a fair amount of media coverage pertaining to this video clip, both before and after the link in the OP. This all appears to concern one of those "Scared Straight" type of programs, which may have slipped into local usage without taking care of some necessary legal hoopla beforehand. Either that, or appropriate training! If my cursory glance through the material reads correctly, the F.B.I. has even opted to take a look.
Here's an earlier article from Thursday, the 31st of March, probably the one in which the video, submitted by an as yet unnamed individual, was first presented to the good citizens of Anniston (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anniston,_Alabama), Alabama...
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The Anniston Star · Alabama
Video shows sheriff using manual force, but sheriff says it's not the whole story (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12568401/article-Video-shows-sheriff-using-manual-force--but-sheriff-says-it-s-not-the-whole-story?)
by Cameron Steele · Star Staff Writer
Mar 31, 2011
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Video appears to show sheriff accosting restrained teen
The minor's face has been blurred in this video to avoid revealing his identity.[/list]
A copy of a video obtained by The Anniston Star appears to show Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson using manual force on a juvenile male during an interview at the county jail.
A source requesting anonymity gave the video footage to The Star Wednesday. The video appears to have been taken from a surveillance camera located in a room at the Calhoun County Jail.
During an interview Wednesday, Amerson acknowledged a video shows him during what he said was "a talk" with a juvenile male. But Amerson stressed he couldn't comment about any other aspect of that interaction. That's not because he has something to hide, Amerson said, but because it would be unlawful to discuss a matter that might become a juvenile case.
"On the record I will say this: That we have a pending criminal case against an unnamed juvenile. In that case, there was video evidence," the sheriff said. "As in all cases where we have evidence, video or otherwise, that video was turned over to the DA's (district attorney's) office, and no effort to hide or destroy any evidence has occurred."
The video provided to The Star runs about two-and-a-half minutes long and shows what appears to be a room at the jail. In the center of the camera's lens, at the back of the room, sits a boy dressed in the orange-and-white jumpsuit worn by jail inmates. The boy's wrists and ankles are shackled. Amerson sits on the bench to the boy's left.
The video, which has no sound, shows Amerson addressing Jail Administrator Eric Starr and two other men, one of whom is dressed as a deputy. Those three men leave and pull the door behind them.
After a moment of what appears to be conversation between the sheriff and the boy, Amerson grabs him by his left shoulder, gets up off the bench, leans over him and forces his head back by pushing on his chin. He holds the boy that way for several seconds. The video shows the sheriff sitting back down, then about a minute later using both arms, one at the boy's shirt collar, to pull him backward against the wall.
LaJuana Davis, a criminal law and procedure expert at Samford University's Cumberland School of Law, watched the video Wednesday and called Amerson's actions a violation of the boy's rights.
"I would characterize this as an outrageous assault on a cuffed and shackled person," Davis said in an email statement. "First, whatever the young person said to the sheriff, even if it was offensive, there will be no excuse for a law enforcement officer choking a shackled person without justification."
Tallapoosa County District Attorney Paul Jones said there are sometimes circumstances where it would be permissible and even necessary to use physical force against a person who is shackled or restrained.
"If they're in a process of moving a guy where he's kicking or biting an officer, I would think there would be a circumstance where an officer could use force," said Jones, who had not seen the video and did not wish to comment specifically on Amerson's situation. "I've even seen them (people) where they were shackled, and I've seen them come out the back window of the police car."
But Davis said in this case, there is no exception to the rule.
"In the video, the inmate makes no physical moves or threatening gestures toward the sheriff," Davis said.
Amerson wouldn't clarify when the talk with the juvenile took place but said Starr turned the tape over to the Calhoun County District Attorney's office sometime in March.
Amerson, who serves as the second vice president for the National Sheriff's Association, refused to comment specifically on the video or on the juvenile shown in the video.
"I'm not authorized to discuss it, because of the nature of the event and because there is a pending criminal case, not on me," Amerson said.
But, in general, the sheriff said, "I would not hurt a child."
Amerson wouldn't talk about why the boy shown in the video was dressed in a jumpsuit, wearing handcuffs and leg shackles. Again, in general, Amerson said, no juveniles are ever booked into the county jail. If a juvenile is at the jail and wearing an inmate jumpsuit, he or she is there at the request of their parents.
As part of a program to teach a lesson to high-risk kids — those who skip school, misbehave or commit crimes — without sending them to juvenile detention facilities, parents can sign waivers to allow their children to work in the county jail during the school day, said an employee with Family Links, Inc., the local children's behavior task force.
The employee, Meshika Ball, said parents sign their children into the jail at 8 a.m. and pick them up at 3:30 p.m. The children in the program do not interact with inmates, Ball said. Instead, they provide menial labor for the jail, such as taking out the trash.
Amerson said that it's policy to restrain a juvenile who is causing trouble while he's on jail premises.
"When the kids misbehave, we talk to them." Amerson said. "These kids are not victims, witnesses or suspects. They are out-of-control children or they wouldn't be here."
The sheriff also questioned the context of the video, noting that a two-and-half minute clip of video footage that lasted for hours would hardly give a full, accurate account of what happened.
"That video was several hours long and the events that went on were," Amerson said. He said it would be improper to characterize anybody's actions in the video simply by viewing a slice of it.
The sheriff said the jail's surveillance system runs all the time and can only be reviewed or accessed by himself or Starr. He said the cameras are in place to document what happens in the jail and that he is aware where the cameras are located and when they are turned on.
Davis listed a number of actions the juvenile shown in the video could take against Amerson if he so chose.
State tort action for assault, a civil suit for constitutional violations of the right to be free from excessive force while in police custody and even criminal, police misconduct charges are among the boy's legal options, Davis said.
Still, Amerson insists that whatever the video depicts is not the full or accurate story.
And Jones, the Tallapoosa County DA who did not wish to be informed about Amerson's specific situation, cautioned against hasty conclusions based on limited facts.
"Neither you nor I may have every bit of information about the circumstances that existed at that time, until we've gotten the information from everybody involved," Jones said.
Star staff writer Cameron Steele: 256-235-3562.
copyright © 2011 Anniston Star.
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kimm607 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 06:30 AM
Well its about time some secrets slip out....congrats to the brave soul who swiped that tape..
PoliticalGarbage wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 07:25 AM
The sheriff is a disgrace for many reasons,not just the video,though hopefully it will be the end of his reign.
HowWordHues wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 07:28 AM
This clip is only part of the entire process, no sound either. We can all make assumptions about what happened by looking at a 2 minute clip. While it does look bad for 2 minutes there is more to the story.
Someone only chose to produce this 2 minutes for a reason, had to be someone in the department or jail that in essence "stole" the video.
To cause trouble for the Sheriff or to tell a tale of unjustice within the Sheriff's department. Time will tell and so will the rest of the video.
destroyer wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 07:36 AM
By all means, let's show the little punk that no matter what he does to someone else, he can get away with it! Maybe, if his daddy had done this, then he would not be at the CCSD! Maybe Amerson thought he could scare the boy into not wanting to end up back in jail! What a load of garbage. A violation of the boys rights? What about the person this little creep violated? If this were my child, he would be begging Amerson to let him stay there because he would know what was coming when he got home.
When I was in high school, a lot of the kids used to skip school. Not me. I knew better. My daddy had a belt and he would use it. It made me grow up to be a responsible person. I learned that there were repercussions for wrong doings. Not this kid. He will learn that if you do wrong, then just sue them!
I also hope that the CCSD finds out who sent out the film and fires them and sues them. Maybe they will make sure that person never works in law enforcement again. They probably figured they would get some money for the best story of the day!
MadIranian wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 07:54 AM
Wow, so this kid isn't an inmate, he's just a troubled high risk youth that your trying to teach a lesson to, by having him work at the jail.
Okay, first question: If this is how you treat a kid that hasn't been convicted of anything.....How do you treat the actual inmates that have been incarcerated?
Know what, I take it back, nevermind that one.
Here's the thing, what could a kid, shackled at the hands and feet, sitting on a bench, have possibly done that would make that response acceptable?
Sorry my answer is NOTHING. There is no way that kid, from that position, did anything to justify those actions.
For Amerson, I don't know, this should be a serious repremand at least. If its me, I fire the guy, cause this isn't his first lap around scandalstick park, but there maybe some precident about how to handle these things.
Nonetheless, this is bad, really, really bad.
anonymous34448 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 08:12 AM
You don't know what was said because of the lack of sound. It's not like he hurt the kid.
You know what's wrong w/ kids today? Momma's and daddy's don't whip their asses! I don't have kids, and I wasn't beaten as a child, but if I did something wrong, I was punished. None of this, oh it's okay, or just talking to crap. My butt was whipped, I was taught right from wrong. Kids just do whatever the hell they want now. I JUST turned 30 and I'm relatively young and still think this way.
PARENTS raise their kids to act the way they do. You keep letting them get away w/ things w/ no consequences, jail is what will happen to them. Larry Amerson may be corrupt, I don't know the man and can't say if he is or not, so to characterize his actions as assault is ridiculous. This kids mother/father obviously don't care what's going on with the boy, so at least SOMEONE does.
scarllett5 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 08:22 AM
My assessemnt of this video is that the sheriff acted pretty confidently in his actions and
I'm sure he had no idea that this video would leak to the press.
How strange, the 3 men suddenly turn and walk out of the room shutting the door behind them and leaving the sheriff alone with this young, shackled boy.
Could it be they knew what was about to go down and didn't want to be a witness to this assault and battery?
It appears the men might be familiar with these tactics and perhaps it has happened many times before.
One thing is very clear by this video, the boy made no aggresive gestures toward the sheriff and there is absolutely no justifification for the sheriffs ruthless behavior. It doesn't matter what happened 5 minutes earlier the sheriff had no reason to practice police brutality on this young man at the time of this video.
For all of you people out there who condone this behavior or try to find justification for the behavior of the sheriff (an elected official) you are as guilty as the sheriff. He needs to be charged with violation of the boy's civil rights,
assaullt and battery and should resign from office. Put an End to Police Brutality Now!
lcwesson wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 08:40 AM
Anybody watching this video doesn't know what that kid did or what he was saying to the sheriff. Do you not understand that sometimes law enforcement officers try to 'scare' a kid to deter him? If somebody doesn't deter that kid, Sheriff Amerson's actions will be nothing compared to what will happen to him in prison. In a perfect world, we could speak sweetly to the young fellow and talk some sense in to him. I expected from the by-line to see that this kid had been slapped around and abused. Here is where it would be helpful to know 'the rest of the story', because I can guarantee you there is one. I am female and I am kind-hearted. I also have dealt years ago with juvenile delinquents. If you haven't done that before or been in a the room with a hand-cuffed, one legged drunk man who was so out-of-control he was about to injure the people there, you will never understand why a law enforcement officer will sometimes be unseemingly rough with a person. I don't condone abuse of a prisoner. I do say that before you condemn, ask to ride with your local law enforcement into a rough neighborhood and spend a day and evening with him or her. You'll walk away with a different opinion.
scarllett5 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:04 AM
Icwesson comments "If you haven't done that before or been in a the room with a hand-cuffed, one legged drunk man who was so out-of-control he was about to injure the people there, you will never understand why a law enforcement officer will sometimes be unseemingly rough with a person."
What did you observe in this video that was out of control? Was it was the shackled youth or the sheriff? The video speaks for itself, of course it was the sheiff. You might want to reevaluate your self proclaimed "I am kind-hearted" status and take a look at yourself in the mirror.
slcal wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:08 AM
Come on. You can tell us why you had to make physical contact with the minor without jeopardizing the case. Sounds like you are lawyering up! Only two outcomes for this issue; cover-up or new sheriff...
luvinmylife wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:16 AM
WOW!!!I am in shock over seeing this..our elected sheriff had no right to touch this kid period.I was considering sending my daughter down there if and when she was in trouble in school but I wont now period.I would be afraid for her safety,thanks to whoever turned this video in so that we could see just what is going on behind closed doors down there.WOW!!He should be fired for his actions torge this child no matter what the circumstances are!!!
lcwesson wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:31 AM
scarlett5 - I simply stated my opinion based on what I have observed, including that I also said that we don't know what happened just prior to this event. Is there some reason that you need to attack me for that? You don't know me, what I do or who I am.
I didn't point a finger at anyone who made a comment on this page. I did ask if anyone considers that law enforcement use scare tactics on young people that they know are headed for deep trouble. I will state again that until all the facts are present, the whole story isn't told. Is this comment section only for available for one type of opinion or may I give mine also for consideration without being jumped on?
borderdog wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:35 AM
The County Sheriff's department needs to find out who leaked this to The Anniston "Red" Star.
That is the individual who needs to be behind bars!
scarllett5 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:55 AM
borderdog wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:35 AM »
The County Sheriff's department needs to find out who leaked this to The Anniston "Red" Star.
Borderdog it sounds like you are the one who is red
or nazi perhaps. My understanding of the laws of the USA is that citizens have rights and one of those rights is to not fear being assaulted by law enforcement officers or anyone else for that matter. If you feel differently then join the Gestapo.
alabama1 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:19 AM
iam a juvenile officer supervisor. this sherriff was clearly in violation of this young mans rights, whether he said something or not, once you have put cuffs on a juvenile by law you should not use excessive force because an jury may occur. this kid was not combatted, or showing any aggressive behaviors, iam a female who does restraints on a regular, wrestlering with juvenile boys to restraine them, and once they're hand cuffed, there is no need to assault the juvneile. he is judicated by law and do have rights by law. and any one in law enforment should know,you never be asked to be alone with an offender, you have to have a witness to cover you. there are camers where i work, but one on one with an offender is condeming yourself, and putting your job in jepordy as this sherriff has done to himself.
lcwesson wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:26 AM
Thanks, Alabama1, for the work you do. You have a tough job. I have great respect for those in law enforcement because it is often a thankless job with not enough pay. Taking the chance now to say thanks to you for what you do every day.
Youarewastingyourfreedom wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:37 AM
Wow, that's pretty pathetic. A grown man, with a badge no less, physically abusing a juvenile. I'll bet it took a real man to do that. I like how the "Good Ol' Boys" club left the room so he could prove his manhood in private. Did you notice how much of a threat that kid looked like with those handcuffs on?? I'd be willing to bet, took if that kid and our good "Sheriff" were to meet in an even match, Amerson would have took the beating. What a complete coward. Somebody needs to come out and say it. Pathetic actions for a grown man, let alone a "Sheriff". I say we should vote in a Sheriff who is secure in his manhood, and doesn't feel the need to beat up on juveniles who are handcuffed. “When the kids misbehave, we talk to them.” Well I hope somebody "talks" to you the same way for your bad behavior. But I'm sure you'll find a way around taking any responsibility, being a man and all. You're a bully with a badge Mr. Amerson, plain and simple. Let's hope when this is all said and done, that your cellmate treats you the same way.
scarllett5 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:44 AM
lcwesson Of course you have a right to express your opinion but don't be surprised when you are called out in a public forum when you compare the actions apparent on this video to a "hand-cuffed, one legged drunk man who was so out-of-control" What does that have to do with this video. Was the boy drunk or one legged? You then call yourself kind-hearted.
WOW And we wonder why Alabama has a bad name nationwide.
Gannon99 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:48 AM
People lets please be for real for just one second. A two-minute clip cannot tell the whole story. Can one day of your life depict your life in its entirety? Of course not, so this two-minute clip of the Sheriff grabbing a misbehaved child cannot possibly tell the whole story, and shame on you Anniston Star. Just giving us a clip with just a few minutes of footage. What about this kids rights? You can show how "bad" the Sheriff can be, but the other issue at hand here is that you fail to mention to the public, that this violates this child’s rights by putting this video on here. All I can tell is that this was done by somebody, either just trying to get political gain, or somebody just simply trying to give the Sheriff a bad name. All in all I believe that this clip leaves a lot of unanswered questions, and we wont know the whole truth until the full video comes out for public viewing.
BamaChamps2009 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:49 AM
Obviously this teen did something criminal to get into jail to start with and most likely said something bad or spit at the sherrif to make him react like that. Most all of us would have done the same thing! Stop pointing fingers at the sherrif for how most of us would have reacted as well.
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whatsoundsgoodmindy wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:51 AM
It's about time the Anniston Star posted some real news without holding back...especially when it has to deal with local law enforcement.
kjunkid2001 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:51 AM
Well. Number 1 we need to put the 10 Commandments back in school. #2 I see all this stuff about children rights all the time, The way I see it is the fact that we have out of control kids these days is because of the fact the legislature makes it almost impossible for a parent to raise their kids with any authority. Maybe if everyone would know what actually transpired leading up to the events in the video we wouldn't be so quick to JUDGE. (i.e. I know of a teenager that beat a dog up very bad. He was in fact caught in the act by his parent. Now the dog was on a chain and was also a young puppy. Only thing the puppy was doing was crying. Now I mean this kid really beat this dog severely. If it were me I would have liked to chain this kid up and whoop the stew out of him to show how this puppy actually felt. But that would be against human rights wouldn't it?.)
Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, But the rod of correction will drive it far from him. ~Proverbs 22: 15~ {NKJV}
MadIranian wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:53 AM
To all you here defending the Sheriff:
Look, it doesn't matter what the kid did leading up to this and it doesn't matter what he said, as a Sheriff you have to exercise restraint in a situation where someone is shackled and in a defenseless position. I am no bleeding heart liberal, but you can't treat people this way. The kid was defenseless and the Sheriff used that to physically intimidate him. Neither is it the Sheriff's job to try to "scare" the kid straight or whatever that is about. Being Sheriff doesn't mean you are some sort of surrogate parent, your job is to uphold the law.............period. This is jacked up and there is no excuse for it.
kjunkid2001 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:03 AM
And to all of you in support of this kid.. Evidently you have no children of your own OR! you are in the age group where you think you can raise yourselves. (Wait till one of your own children stand up in your own home and disrespect you cuss you and beat you up because that is whats going to happen when you let these kids get away with no raising. and the phrase (jacked up) posted by one on here tells me that you are in fact in this younger generation where you think it's ok to be in society with no authority.
Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, But the rod of correction will drive it far from him. ~Proverbs 22: 15~ {NKJV}
ParkerJ wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:04 AM
Here is a quote from Sheriff Amerson's recent letter condemning marijuana and marijuana users... "I work with agencies and organizations to attempt to favorably impact the lives of young people to keep them from choosing drugs or VIOLENCE. We work with those in jail to change their lives through our jail ministry and drug rehabilitation programs."
He forgot to add the part about choking the crap out of them.
How would you feel if that was your SON being choked?
Gannon99 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:09 AM
Well ParkerJ my son wouldnt be getting "choked" if that what you are guessing that happened. My son wouldnt be at the jail in the first place, because I would be a good, loving parent and I would whoop them at home, and I would have control over my child, unlike the invidual's parents here
lcwesson wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:10 AM
scarlett5 I didn't compare this child to that situation. What I said was that sometimes we don't know everything that is going on. My point is that the man who I mentioned would have expected to have been harmless, but he really wasn't. It was simply an example, not a comparison. I was stating things that I witnessed that law enforcement have reacted to over the years.
Ma'am, I have better things to do today than defend myself to you about whether I am kindhearted or not. I stated that I think there is more to the story, I have seen times when there was more to the story and that is pretty much it. When whoever finishes checking this out in the DA's office comes out with a finding, we will know what happened. You seem pretty angry with me. Not sure why but that was not my intent. That said, this will be my last post. I wish you well.
Evil_Phillip_Tutor wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:19 AM
Boy, I bet this is going to make the next Top Cop Summit awkward.
Might want to hold it someplace other than the Star.
I suggest the Magic Mushroom.
justhetruth wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:22 AM
Remember a few days back, when some of you were giving me a hard time about what I know, you wanted to know why I had not reported to the proper authorities? The only thing more that I can tell you is STAY TUNED !!!!!
ParkerJ wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:24 AM
What the sheriff did is unacceptable, inexcusable, and inappropriate. If a high school principal had done this and been "caught on camera" the pitchforks and torches would be waving. Talk in circles all you like, The proof is in the puddin' and video doesn't lie.
mykdeen wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:26 AM
This might be the first time this kind of brutish force by local law enforcement has been recorded, but I'd bet money (if gambling was legal in Alabama, of course) it's not the first time it's happened around here.
The kid and his parents all made choices which landed him in this program. The program wants to "teach a lesson to high-risk kids." What lesson can the most powerful man in the county teach to a kid in shackles? What tidbit of wisdom can only be delivered with the sheriff's hands around a kids throat? The growing contempt for law enforcement will forever continue to grow as long as unjustifiable tactics like this are exercised. This contempt can be hazardous to the health of people on both sides of the law.
anonymous34448 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:34 AM
oh i just love how my comments disappear. gotta love that southern censorship!
Tikkijen wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:42 AM
just what would you people who think his rights were violated...do when this young man, like many othewrs with no parental guidance whatsoever, would do if they got in your house to rob you. Nowadays, these young people lilke to leave no witnesses, they are not stupid. keep on defending the rights of these hooligans, and you or family might be next. Leave the sheriff alone and let him do his job, cause evidently the parents didn't do their job, and this person is in society, wrecking havok.... These kids in this program are not the usual kid that fell in the wrong crowd, they are hard core gang mentality, if you need something take it, if you want something take it. They were not taught to work and do without, if you can't buy something. If the tough idea puts one person on the right track, otherwise if we do nothing, you can better think that someone is gonna get a bad deal at the hands of this kid...men need to take responsibility for their kids, not just the joy of making them, and if their sorry butts don't comply which many many do not, what do you do....let them run wild. NOt in America. And I guess some of you commenting on this boys rights, have never been robbed, raped or had a loved one murdered for 20 bucks, and these criminals will kill you over nothing in this day, don't you think otherwise, you will be a fool. stop it before it happens, and this is a good step when there is no guidance available at home. if you don't want programs like this then get out there and help them, be a mentor... stop bashing the man and the system that is trying to do just that.
Tikkijen wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:52 AM
oh btw...Alabama is known for being fat, over weight and lazy if you happen to read national news
Rman wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:53 AM
Making a mountain out of a mole hill...doesn't appear to me the kid was hurt and he probably needed an even more serious attitude adjustment...he did not end up in the county lock up by being a good little boy...newspapers always like to play gotcha with law enforcement...but, you don't see them out dealing one on one with these thugs..that kind of work is just too dirty for them
Jesus_Hates_Sinners wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:57 AM
I watch "In the Interest of the People" with Larry Barton , Sunday nights at 7:00 PM, and he has had numerous calls into his program about the abuses of this sheriff. The video clip says all that is needed. The young man was hand cuffed, so why use the tough guy tactics? The sheriff is paid to be a police officer and not to administer punishment.
For those that are defending these bully tactics: remember the German people considered Hitler a hero and he was famous for this type of activity. Hitler was also a professing Christian and loved Jesus. I wonder if Mr Amerson loves Jesus as well? If he does then he would be in good company...
mjfreedom wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 12:21 PM
I really can't believe some of the comments I reading here. Saying Sheriff Amerson is justified in his actions because we don't know what happened prior to the video footage we have here is asinine. Sheriff Amerson is a GROWN MAN, and the kid was restrained. The ONLY thing the kid might have done is SAID something that the Sheriff didn't like. Thats all!.... what else could he have done while handcuffed and secured to the wall behind him to provoke the Sheriff's actions?
The next time some teenage boy smarts off to you or says something you don't like about your momma. Try grabbing him by the throat and pressing him against the wall for 20 or 30 seconds. I assure you, NO ONE will say your actions are justified if you happen to be an adult. Nor should the sheriff's actions be justified. Sheriff Amerson could have acted like an adult and simply left the room closed the door and let the kid sit there for several hours, and I imagine from the child's point of view it would have been just as beneficial. Does anyone really believe a STRANGER grabbing your child by the throat will set them on the right path? If so, you're an idiot.
All I can say is that if parents are still sending there children to Sheriff Amerson so he can "straighten them out" after seeing this, those parents should be brought up on charges for child endangerment themselves.
Christopher Butts
Cullman, Alabama
sexyeze16 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 12:29 PM
Clearly everyone has an opinion, yes the young man got in trouble and yes he was bound, The cops do a good job at times but this clearly is an expression of unprofessionalism. Im sure it has happened before and will happen again, never heard of the method of chokin the truth outta someone but law were set in place for something. Dont want the man to lose his job but he needs try other methods to get his point across
MadIranian wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 12:33 PM
Kjunkid2001,
Thanks but wrong jackwagon, I'm a 40 year old man with kids of my own and I will disciple them. As I said that isn't the Sheriff's job, and quite frankly, that isn't how you do it. Unless of course you want to raise a violence prone adult with no respect for authority.
Got anymore words of wisdom for me punk?
MadIranian wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 12:44 PM
Tikkijen,
So let me understand this: your solution to the fact that there are violent criminals on the streets is to take any kid that gets out of line, or that you think got out of line, or says something that offends you and chain them to a bench, yank their head back, and choke them?
HUMMMMM, yeah that'll work.......Brillant Plan!
About now you be sensing some sarcasim.
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Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12568401/article-Video-shows-sheriff-using-manual-force--but-sheriff-says-it-s-not-the-whole-story?) left for the above article, "Video shows sheriff using manual force, but sheriff says it's not the whole story (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=400102#p400066)" (by Cameron Steele; Mar 31, 2011; The Anniston Star), #s 41-60:
michaellapihuska wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 12:50 PM
This is helping a troubled teen. No excuses for this. NONE. I like how he waits till he thinks all the witnesses are gone. FIRE HIM. THe people on here sticking up for him are just as sick. ONLY LOVE CONQUERS HATE. Namaste
dlsrks wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 12:50 PM
This is just a very small part of what is going on at the jail. There are many many civil right violations going on that nothing is being done about it because the whole Calhoun County legal system is corrupt and the Sheriff's Dept just does not care how the inmates are treated. The deputies follow the Sheriff's behaviorial example. I've seen it.
RevHank wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 01:16 PM
kjunkid2001, Proverbs 22: 15 would have the public break out their bull whips and do the work of the Lord on all these children. Why don’t we go back to stoning children for over eating?
The so-called Ten Commandments are an anti-American document written by barbaric Arabs in the Middle East, long before civilization developed. The first four are direct violations of the First Amendment. The third and tenth commandments ordain slavery. The tenth outlaws the free enterprise system. Any violation of any of the commandments demands the death penalty.
When the Commandments are posted, add five words to each one. Those words are, “Or God will kill you.”
Thomas Paine said, “Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man.”
You sound cruel.
Police with anger management problems need to be fired.
Sensai wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 01:18 PM
Looks like a laying of hands, exercising the demons from the boy
whatthe??? wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 01:28 PM
What is Larry's problem has he let his badge go to his head??? Everyone knows that the young man was handcuffed, and shackled so how could he be a threat to Larry??? Larry and his whole crew need to be shipped out and we need a whole new set of officers for the Calhoun County Sheriff's Department. How many other times has this happened and we are not aware of it. Yes, I agree in locking ppl up who break the law, but in some cases there at CCSO some ppl have died and were treated less than an animal. I wish that had been my son cause I would sue Larry Amerson and the Calhoun County for every cent they had and more...
destroyer wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 01:44 PM
Did anyone even read the story? This kids parents put him there because he was out of control! The deputies all actually laughed before they walked out because something had just went on. The door never shut. Can you not see that it was still open about six inches or so? This kids parents love him enough that they don't want to see him spend the rest of his life in jail. They are trying to scare him. Maybe you would rather he went to the juvenile detention center with the really bad kids so that he can learn some new stuff. I bet the kids there would do a lot more to him than what Amerson did to him. From most of the opinions on here, I can see now why we have so many kids that are nothing but hoodlums. As I said before, if that were my child, he would be begging Amerson to let him stay there because he would know what was going to happen when he got home. I don't believe that any child should ever be abused, but I also didn't see any kind of abuse in the film either. I saw a punk that kept trying to play tough boy and jerking away as if he didn't have to listen to him. We will see how tough he is in prison, because rest assured, with that attitude that he has, he WILL be in prison soon.
setsail98 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 01:57 PM
Now Billy Bob and Corn Fed, ya'll wanna step out whilest I gives Jr. hereya sum dem facts-o-life?
facts-facts-facts
Maybe, Jr, we cud pos dis on utube, heh?
How do you spell c-a-u-g-h-t?
[email protected] wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 02:22 PM
This is awful where r the boys parents someone should be holding them off him.
kaniawolf wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 02:59 PM
This is so stupid people! You can see he is not choking this child out. He is doing what any good parent would do if your child would not look at you and listen to what you had to say. You can see this child, or young man (clearly as big as the employees who work in the jail) he is out of control by his body actions.
What upset me is it is a juvinille. And I know it is againt the law for anyone to be discussing this issue at all. This said, I think the law is also being broken by those who have let this be released, or SHOWN ( espicially out of context). It shows there are two sides to this so called story.
I worked in the jail with these kinds of kids myself, and more than half the children that came in there, returned again and again. They were way bigger than I am, and if they got out of control, well good luck to the persons who worked in the jail.
People understand, these kids were in the jail for a reason..to show them they didn't need to be doing what they are doing with there lives outside of the jail, because this would be where they would end up if they don't change...
I feel this may have now hurt the program by showing this article/Video, out of context. Now if this program is stoped, well they will just go to Juvinille Hall and get worse. This generation is in enough trouble.
I have never seen the Sheriff hurt, abuse anyone in the ten years I was at the Sheriffs Office. I know this man personally and as a boss, and I don't believe this.It is pure "POLITICS"!
People...They did this to my father who worked at the City of Anniston for twenty years, Donald Warden and they did him in the same manner...don't fall for this people, it is just a stupid game and it sells.
Virginia Warden Minton
FYI...I am not afraid to post my name. Are you?
Band76 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 04:06 PM
Ya see this and the high sheriff trying like the rest to cover up? This kid didn't need the high sheriff's punishment.The sheriff shoud resign if not be impeached.
standing4truth wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 04:15 PM
I happen to be a person who knows the WHOLE STORY inside and out...and I just want to make it known that the child IS NOT some foul hoodlum. He has been through alot and God is doing alot in his life...he just made some bad decisions that landed him in that situation. He does not have the character of 'robbing people and breaking into houses'...THAT'S SIMPLY NOT WHO HE IS. HE IS NOT HANGING OUT ALL NIGHT OR ON DRUGS...HIS TIME IS SPENT PRAYING VIDEO GAMES, PLAYING SPORTS, READING THE BIBLE(ON HIS OWN) AND AT CHURCH. His household is one of love and discipline...so for those of you that want to find a way to blame homelife and parenting, you are also wrong. There are many violations here...even this clip showing up on line today. It would be wise to actually know the truth before justifying why this grown man put his hands on someone who is chained and shakled... dont assume and attack the innocent parties because you need this to make sense...IT IS WHAT THE CLIP SHOWS. Dont bother to respond because this is my only statement. thank you
peoplernuts wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 04:24 PM
The Sheriff is a real sh%#!!!!! I know this from my own experience dealing with him. He claims to be a christian, but all I see in him is a hypocrite and someone who thinks they are God.
kerrmite wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 04:37 PM
Way to much garbage going on the the Sheriffs office. Inmates dying, Sleeping in the day room because of overcrowding, and beating children who are restrained. What next Amerson? Taking them out back and executing them when they piss you off?
It does not matter what the kid done to get where he was. He was clearly no threat to Amerson. However, Amerson had a plan. Otherwise he would not have sent Starr and the others out of the room. No witnesses no crime. But, I guess he forgot about the video camera above the door.
Yet another internal investigation into the Calhoun County Sheriffs Department. When will the residents of Calhoun County realize that Amerson needs to be replaced?
kerrmite wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 04:47 PM
Kanaiwolf:
1: Amerson is not the kids parent.
2: So, it is better to abuse the kids physically than to place in Juvenile?
3: His body actions told me he was trying to get away from Amerson. He only started moving AFTER Amerson physically attacked him.
4: If you worked in the jail, then you must know first hand that the CO's could care less about those who are incarcerated, and treat them like garbage. What better way to learn than from their superior.
As a friend of Amerson, you opinions are biased.
AStrike wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 05:19 PM
What else happens in this jail? Why are kids in their in the first place?
BlueHorse2 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 05:19 PM
I KNOW FIRST HAND how Sheriff Amerson treats inmates, HE IS A DISGRACE to this County and always has been. He treats inmates like they garbage, I have witnessed misbehavior in that jail on many occasions. I was incarcerated on numerous trumpt up charges, while I was under protective orders (which I might add, in this County they are not worth the paper written on). I have witnessed hurt inmates ignored, sick inmates ignored and a lot more that should NEVER be tolerated. For just a simple example of this Sheriff, my ex-husband, a CONVICTED spousal and child abuser, yet the Sheriff reissued him a pistol license, which is against STATE law, while pulling mine out of my hands and revoking them (we me so much as not a speeding ticket in my life). When I asked him why, his reply "Because I can bitch!" Well I ended up getting shot, nearly killed, but I was the one that kept going to jail, even after my ex violated Protection Order on numerous occasions. He thinks he is above the law just because he is Sheriff and needs to be held accountable for his continuing actions, which are nothing uncommon, and thrown off his "thrown". I would gladly tell my entire story if anybody cared to listen. I am at this time in the process of asking for a full pardon from our new Governor. I worked in the system in Calhoun County as a paralegal and in 3 other states, and have NEVER seen anything like this County in my entire life....but you see I KNOW THESE OFFICIALS IN THIS COUNTY ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.....I'm a very concerned law abiding citizen and if he does this to a juvenile, just let your imagination guess what he does to the adults, especially the women....believe me I know what he does, been there, done that. Oh yeah, and he holds you in the jail till the statute of limitations runs out so that you can't come back and sue for wrong doing.
And I'm not afraid to use my name either.
Very Concerned for the safety of the inmates and other officers as well and the innocent.
Kimela Perkey formerly Alvarez
Jesus_Hates_Sinners wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 05:47 PM
BlueHorse2, and others that would like to speak out on the issue of the Calhoun County Sheriff Dept. situation. Maybe you should contact Larry Barton at [email protected] and see if he will let you be on his television show to speak out about this atrocity. I personally have watched the program and heard anyone can be on his show.
honestgovernment wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 06:28 PM
The audio would be interesting but what I clearly see is Amerson sitting casually with his legs crossed and this inmate fidgiting and trying to get up and wiggling around. Looks like the appropriate amount of restraint was used to keep the prisoner in one place while the Sheriff talked to him.
Who of the dissenters wants to adopt the kid and pay for all his screw ups till he enters society????????????no takers, I didn't think so.
Youarewastingyourfreedom wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 07:00 PM
What in the world is wrong with you people??? This is how a teenager "should" be treated to keep him out of trouble? If you buy that idiotic idea then Amerson should have just put a gun in his face!! Control people through fear??? Really? Control kids through fear?? I feared my father's punishment. I didn't fear him sending me to a unstable man with power issues to physicaly abuse me. DESTROYER said the boy was "jerking away as if he didn't have to listen to him." News flash buddy, WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY. He DIDN'T have to listen to him. You really think that in a FREE society, the people that are sworn to uphold the laws of FREE PEOPLE should be allowed to instill fear in a kid through physical abuse?? Like Amerson is going to set him straight?? Please. As we can see, Amerson can't keep himself straight. You teach a youngster not to break the law by breaking it yourself and making him the victim?? Some things in this world are a matter of opinion. And some things are a matter of intelligence. I'm sorry but defending this poor example of a man is a fool's game. And it doesn't look like there is any shortage of fools here in Calhoun County.
oneancientpagan wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 07:11 PM
Maybe jesus can fix this young man.Rehabilitation cost too much.Anyone for a prayer chain?Nottingham,yes Nottingham,thats the sheriff I was thinking of.I'm sorry,I got 'em confused.
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Not to swerve the topic, but everything about this portion of one of the above comments was funny and I can’t even tell if it was meant to be. I hope so ‘cause otherwise it’s kinda sad.
“The so-called Ten Commandments are an anti-American document written by barbaric Arabs in the Middle East, long before civilization developed. The first four are direct violations of the First Amendment. The third and tenth commandments ordain slavery. The tenth outlaws the free enterprise system. Any violation of any of the commandments demands the death penalty.”
At least they’re right about the “Police with anger management problems need to be fired” statement.
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Not to swerve the topic, but everything about this portion of one of the above comments was funny and I can’t even tell if it was meant to be. I hope so ‘cause otherwise it’s kinda sad.
“The so-called Ten Commandments are an anti-American document written by barbaric Arabs in the Middle East, long before civilization developed. The first four are direct violations of the First Amendment. The third and tenth commandments ordain slavery. The tenth outlaws the free enterprise system. Any violation of any of the commandments demands the death penalty.”
At least they’re right about the “Police with anger management problems need to be fired” statement.
:rofl: RevHank also suggests, "Why don't we go back to stoning children for over eating?" I rather tend towards this being an attempt at humor, to point out the extremes to which religion can to be used to rationalize any abusive behavior towards others...
But... I could be wrong! :D
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Some more comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12568401/article-Video-shows-sheriff-using-manual-force--but-sheriff-says-it-s-not-the-whole-story?) left for the above article, "Video shows sheriff using manual force, but sheriff says it's not the whole story (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=400102#p400066)" (by Cameron Steele; Mar 31, 2011; The Anniston Star), #s 61-80:
destroyer wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 07:43 PM
Hey buddy, like the article said, his own parents put him there because he was out of control! Read the story! Fear must have worked because kids were not as horrible as they are now. Oh yes, I forgot, kids don't have to listen to authority figures anymore. They just run rampant. If you had read the story then you would know that the boy is in trouble. They have a video tape of something that he did to someone. Oh, that's right, what he did doesn't matter, he is a kid, that makes it ok. You need to stop and ask what he did to someone that was so bad that he is in trouble. I hope that the person that he got a hold of is ok. If you don't want the police to bother you, then don't do anything that will put you in that position!
oneancientpagan wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 07:52 PM
Follow the bailiff,pay the clerk.Next?!
Doodie'smom wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 08:56 PM
Well Oh Well!! Revealing season it is!! From what I see as I read the other comments he has done this before. Why ask your fellow coworkers to remove themselves from the room if your intentions were not on doing something out of order? (Something to ponder about maybe)Now as we can see in this video that the boy was not "fidgeting" as you might say! And even if he was how do you know that that is something he cannot control?? Now after the sheriff choked him you can see that the boy is pleading and crying just look at his body gestures!!Now are you people so naive and simpleminded that you can't see all of those signs?? The sheriff was in the wrong in many different way. As him being a minor, wasn't his parent supposed to be present while they talked to him alone?? Wow!! I really can't believe some of the comments I have read!! Clearly we can see that he acted out of rage and should be punished!!(I mean WOW give the man a pillow to choke not a child) Now if it won't be put to justice now it never will. I mean come on people this child will be traumatized for the rest of his life. We all need to pray for the both of them.
And to the little boy and his family GOD said it's revealing season now y'all sit back and watch the blessings overflow!!
KC
jakejacobs1 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 08:59 PM
Is the Virginia Minton listed below the K9 officer at the CCSO who was hired ONLY because she was friends of the sheriff's wife? And, the same one who let the trained dog get loose to roam all over Coldwater? Just wondering! lol
Doodie'smom wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:12 PM
onepostoneopinion wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:33 PM
I see scare tactics posted quite often, however take a stroll down memory lane if you have said that. I would venture to say if you have children, they misbehaved in public, and a police officer was nearby, you looked at him/her and then your child and said something to the effect of, "I'm gonna let him/her take you with him/her if you don't behave." I'm sorry, that is ignorant. That child with either begin to fear the police or hate them because your using that officer as what? Intimidation on YOUR child. You may think no but the subconscious of a child is an amazing thing. (I realize the difference between physical, verbal, and mental intimidation, no need to try to point that out). This is in no way an opinion on the article nor will I make one, or reply if any chose to feel threatned enough by this post to debate. I am a casual news reader and this was a general post to allow others to see that when you have 1 finger pointed at someone, there are 4 more pointed back at you.
justhetruth wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:42 PM
BlueHorse2 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 07:02 PM »
Well I want to add, I know Judge Laird personally, for years, and he also is a joke, I never got notice from His court about a preliminary hearing was set on a case I had before him, in the process my mother and grandmother died in the same week, and unaware of my court date, I noticed that I was on Calhoun County's Most Wanted for failure to appear (of which I knew nothing about); I immediately called my attorney, told him my circumstances and he contacted Judge Laird, well I was under the impression from my attorney that it would be handled during my very difficult situation, since I am the sole survivor of the family. Well I was found by bounty hunters and taken to jail, where Judge Laird told my attorney, "I don't give a damn who died, she should have been in court; and I'm gonna let her set her butt in jail until I am ready to bring her before the court." With all the turmoil going on in my life at that preticular time I was trying to get the huge Estate settled, not aware a bench warrant had been issued, I sat in the jail waiting on the almighty Judge Laird to decide on his own time, when to bring me before court. I might add, while in the process of waiting, everything I owned, my mother owned, etc., were stolen, everything, completely down to my underwear. Judge Laird did exactly what he wanted to do, no matter what the law called for...I was so elated that he was elected out of office, duh, people in this community is tired of all the corrupt judges, deputies and all your local police departments, i.e. Jacksonville, Weaver, etc.
Another thing I will add, they PICK THE ONES THEY WANT IN JAIL WHILE THE REAL CRIMINALS STILL WALK THE STREET, SELLING DRUGS IN THE WIDE OPEN, WHILE THE POLICE PUT BLIND FOLDS ON..,...THIS COUNTY NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL FOR SURE. So you people who think you know, you've never been there or you are on Joel's payroll.
Read more: Anniston Star - Former judge Joel Laird calls due process accusations 'personal attacks' Sheriff Amerson openly endorsed Laird for Judge in November. Birds of a feather flock together.
jville wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 09:57 PM
Congratulations Anniston Star!!!
You got the reaction you wanted.
Happy????
impeachamerson wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:10 PM
Well after watching the video it appears Coroner Pat Brown will be making an arrest of Sheriff Amerson soon for Assualt and Civil Rights Violation. By law the Coroner is the only one who can arrest the Sheriff. Also by law Pat Brown will become Sheriff when Amerson is impeached for this. Sheriff Amerson don't worry to much at least you will be in Federal Prison instead of State Prison.
another1gone wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:37 PM
If the sheriff has done what it being alleged, then the District Attorney Bob McVey needs to step up to the plate and show the citizens he represents that he will enforce the law on any violator. By doing so, this will bring credibility to the DA's office that has been lacking for a long time. With Judge Laird gone, and possible now Sheriff Amerson, with all the new judges the folks have elected recently, just maybe our county can be what it used to be. A great place to work.
justhetruth wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:43 PM
If the coroner becomes sheriff, this will be another joke. He has a suit against the Rev. Williams, the funeral director and has been fueding with him because he has been accused of using his office for personal gain. Maybe the Governor will make an appointment fast like he did in the DA situation.
NotAFanofCCOS wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:47 PM
Just yesterday I called for help in getting my things back from someone who had them basically hostage, and had to call the Sheriff's Dept to come out. Well, high and mighty Deputy Cone comes out with the most arrogant attitude I have ever seen. Downing our local PD's horribly. He even had the nerve to get in my face and yell, "I AM THE LAW, I AM MISTER LAW, YOU WILL LISTEN TO ME SO SHUT YOUR MOUTH!! I called HIM for help! WTH? It seems to me that the CCSD are full of stupid stupid people! I mean we are supposed to look to them for help! I call for help and I get a jerk hole of an officer.
missjones wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 10:55 PM
Take A plea Amerson! like everyone has to do.
mykdeen wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:01 PM
Laws are not only in place to prevent parents from exercising this type of discipline on children, but to also prevent grown men from using unwarranted physical force on anyone. Whether or not the kid deserved that type of treatment, Sheriff Amerson had no right, reason, nor excuse to ever display that kind of force in that kind of situation.
In the strictly controlled environment that is the Calhoun County Jail, ask yourself if you would ever feel intimidated enough to lunge at a handcuffed teenager. Why would a sheriff with almost four decades in law enforcement feel intimidated or threatened?
For such a blatant disregard of rules at any workplace, immediate termination of the violator is typically the standard operating procedure. But this is a different story: we're talking public officials. It sounds like time to “lawyer up” is upon us.
Lawsuits scare the pants off of anyone, but what will that solve in the end? No matter which side of the aisle you're on, Amerson or the anonymous whistle-blower would pay a lewd amount of money to someone else and the whole thing magically goes away—or would it?
Rational people usually use physical force against things they fear. Perhaps Amerson proves that; perhaps the growing number of “hoodlums” prove that. The only thing this video proves to me is that there doesn't seem to be too much rationality within the Calhoun County Sheriff's Office.
While this fierce online debate has raged, not one single comment has actually praised the fantastic work of our local law enforcement. Coming from my half-dozen experiences on both sides of the law, some members of the CCSD seem to be at least semi-rational and professional. I hope the intentions of the anonymous person that submitted this tape to the Anniston Star is the rationality we should expect.
From the aspect of a taxpayer, I simply ask for a rational and professional sheriff to protect and serve my community. Irresponsibility is to be expected from a teenager—not from an elected official.
-MDS
cveransky/valdez wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:07 PM
Aw C'mon now. This is the south. The play by there own rules. I am appalled by this. But then I am only a citizen. I am from Chicago. And never seen such harsh treatement. If you want to stand in the shoes of an officer, be trained. I do live in the south now and realize what the LAW means out here. And have come to the conclusion, That I will respect all laws. But never the law. Y all got trigger monkeys out here. And they have a badge. OOPPS. There are not trained right. And should not be out there. So think of your kin. Would ya want them dead for a traffic violation because the LAW wouldn't have it any other way. I understand they have a job. But The lord knows so do I. And If I ain't doing it right. I will be told. Unless the boss is wrong himself. thoughts to Ponder.
hillbilly7722 wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:11 PM
I want to start by saying this, I am not a friend of Larry Amerson and do not particularly like his politics. I did not vote for him, nor do I intend to vote for him in the future. Having said that; do not forget that this "kid" is in the county jail. For him to be there, he has to be at least 14. He had to have committed a Class A Felony, or he had to have had a pending case which was adjudicated and transferred to Adult Court. In most cases, this happens when the juvenile in question has committed a heinous act, or has already been through the juvenile justice system and is already approaching the age of 18. So now we all know that he ain't there because he got caught singing too loud in the church choir. It's my belief that this page is here to post opinions, and that is what I am going to do. My previous comments were just a few facts to help support my opinion. This inmate (regardless of age, he's still in custody) has obviously attracted attention to himself. People expect the police to have all the answers and fix the problem. Contrary to popular belief, there are not "special" police officers who only deal with juveniles. There are juvenile probation officers, but they only have become involved when the juvenile commits a crime or is in need of supervision. This inmate is shackled which would indicate to me that he has either just been taken into custody, or he caused a problem of some sort inside the jail. People who have never been inside the county jail do not understand. There are no magic rubber rooms where inmates can be sent where they can't hurt themselves or others. Criminals live in a violent world, so unfortunately it would seem that police have to walk in that world. Jail is a violent place, and the old "hug a thug" theory just doesn't cut it. I don't know what they were talking about in that room, and I could only speculate as to why Amerson asked the other men to leave. I can say this, I never saw him choke the inmate and I never saw him strike the inmate. I did see him put hands on the inmate and it appeared to be an attention getter. I only hoped it worked, because obviously, whatever else has been used on this inmate has not worked, otherwise, he would not be sitting in the county jail. I am not familiar with any law that provides that juveniles have to have a parents present when being questioned. There are some additional rights, and they can request a parent or guardian if being questioned. This did not appear to be the situation where the juvenile was being questioned about a "free-world" case where his penal interest was in question. This appeared to be a case where an INMATE in a CORRECTIONAL FACILITY was being secured, most likely due to disruptive behavior inside that facility. Inmates do not have the same rights as those in the free world. The nature of being in jail speaks for itself. Like I said, just my opinion.
missjones wrote on Thursday, Mar 31 at 11:14 PM
kaniawolf, you state "This is so stupid people! You can see he is not choking this child out. He is doing what any good parent would do if your child would not look at you and listen to what you had to say. You can see this child, or young man (clearly as big as the employees who work in the jail) he is out of control by his body actions."
I think you better read what you write before you post it,,
1. Any parent who does that to a child no matter what their age and it was caught on video would go to jail for abuse or assault.
2. maybe you should watch the video again because he is not as big as the jail employees in that room and even if he was it does not matter.
3. if you paid attention to the video you would see that this child only turned his face away from the sheriff and within seconds the sheriff grabbed the back of his neck and physically turned they childs face towards him, then the CALHOUN COUNTY SHERIFF appears to be choking this child , who then begins to move as if he is in discomfort or maybe just maybe he is scarred since this man who is supposed to be protecting him is now choking him!
And if that is how you both think disciplining children should be done.I would suggest that the sheriff call his children and warn them before they bring their children over for him to babysit his grandchildren, but maybe you would not mind it if he watches your children or grandchildren!
JusticeIsn'tBlind wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 01:55 AM
Reading and seeing this disgust me. The "good ol' boy' mentality is very much rooted in this society. The saddest part about this is that people are defending his ILLEGAL actions. I trust that his sworn oath in no way conflicted with the rights afforded by the Constitution. With that being said, he was in violation of the law and should be dealt with accordingly. I am certain that this has been happening for years, but no one has had the courage to address it, so kudos to the individual who released the footage of this monster. The Calhoun County Sheriff Department is full of arrogant, condescending, and extraordinarily rude individuals. I hope that we that are dismayed by the situation become proactive instead of reactive. If the officers of the law won't protect us, we must do it ourselves.
Youarewastingyourfreedom wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:50 AM
I doubt that any you would be defending Ben Little if he Was doing the community the same "favor" and beat the criminal mentality out of a white kid.
And DESTROYER- I never inferred that "kids don't have to listen to authority figures anymore." I'm not for kids running wild and commiting crimes. I just don't support the idea that 2 wrongs make a right, but it seems like you and many others do. Even IF the youngster commited a serious crime (although neither you or I know that for sure), commiting another serious crime and making the youngster the victim makes Sheriff Amerson just as much of a criminal as the kid that you seem to think deserved this. It's funny that so many of you defend Amerson when he commits a crime, but not a youngster who I'm sure needs some sort of direction. But In my OPINION, Amerson is much more in need of some direction. He is supposed to be a professional, the juuvenile isn't. Amerson knows the law, and the juvenile doesn't. If he wasn't doing anything wrong, why did he wait until he was alone with the kid to 'Straighten him out"? Because he knew what he was doing was wrong and he didn't want his actions to be seen. Sorry, but I'm not okay with officers of the law breaking any law they want behind closed doors. Would you be for a bigger man roughing up Amerson the same way?? Because someone obviously needs to teach him that it's not okay to break the law, just like the young "future criminal" that you seem to be in such fear of. Sorry, a criminal with a badge bothers me alot more than a misguided juvenile.
hillbilly7722 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:18 AM
To WastingYourTime:
First of all, this is not a misguided youth, this is a criminal. Regardless of his age, he committed a crime and that makes him a criminal. He is in jail, wearing an inmate uniform and shackles. What crime exactly, are you accusing the Sheriff or? He did not choke or hit the inmate. He put hands on him, but I never saw an assault. Someone also posted that if a parent was doing this to their child, they would be arrested. You may want to take a look at the Alabama Criminal Code. Parents and guardians are afforded the right to use corporal punishment to discipline their kids. In other words, people do not go to jail for whipping their kids, they go to jail when they cause serious injury to their kids. The tactics he used in the video are no more aggressive than those used to transfer hostile inmates from one portion of the jail to another. I admit that it looks bad because he asked the others to leave the room, but I would guess that he probably thought the inmate would calm down if he did not have an audience to "entertain".
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Lakeshow24 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:45 AM
FEDERAL JUVENILE DELINQUENCY ACT 18 USC § 5033
Custody prior to appearance before magistrate.
Whenever a juvenile is taken into custody for an alleged act of juvenile delinquency, the arresting officer shall immediately advise such juvenile of his legal rights, in language comprehensive to a juvenile, and shall immediately notify the Attorney General and the juvenile’s parents, guardian, or custodian of such custody. The arresting officer shall also notify the parents, guardian, or custodian of the rights of the juvenile and of the nature of the alleged offense.
The juvenile shall be taken before a magistrate forthwith. In no event shall the juvenile be detained for longer than a reasonable period of time before being brought before a magistrate.
These are the rights that a juvenile, being a U.S. citizen are entitled to. This is basicly everything Larry Amerson didnt do. How did the Anniston Star get this tape? It came from the Police. Someone who has integrity and a heart sent it out, because they too knew that this was wrong. Lets acknowledge what Amerson and his supporters are trying to do here, Cover His Tail. There was no threat from the "juvenile" to the CAREER Officer. He was HANDCUFFED and SHACKLED when Amerson grabbed him by the throat.What if this was your relative or child? Would you have a different opinion?
Lakeshow24 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:45 AM
FEDERAL JUVENILE DELINQUENCY ACT 18 USC § 5033
Custody prior to appearance before magistrate.
Whenever a juvenile is taken into custody for an alleged act of juvenile delinquency, the arresting officer shall immediately advise such juvenile of his legal rights, in language comprehensive to a juvenile, and shall immediately notify the Attorney General and the juvenile’s parents, guardian, or custodian of such custody. The arresting officer shall also notify the parents, guardian, or custodian of the rights of the juvenile and of the nature of the alleged offense.
The juvenile shall be taken before a magistrate forthwith. In no event shall the juvenile be detained for longer than a reasonable period of time before being brought before a magistrate.
These are the rights that a juvenile, being a U.S. citizen are entitled to. This is basicly everything Larry Amerson didnt do. How did the Anniston Star get this tape? It came from the Police. Someone who has integrity and a heart sent it out, because they too knew that this was wrong. Lets acknowledge what Amerson and his supporters are trying to do here, Cover His @$$. There was no threat from the "juvenile" to the CAREER Officer. He was HANDCUFFED and SHACKLED when Amerson grabbed him by the throat.What if this was your relative or child? Would you have a different opinion?
MadIranian wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 11:26 AM
Hillbilly,
You should really read the article before you just start commenting. The kid was not there because he had committed a crime. He was there at the request of his parents because he was considered "high risk". So does that change your mind that an innocent kid, (or at least not yet proven guilty kid) was on the recieving end of this?
hillbilly7722 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 02:37 PM
To MadIranian
The article talks about a program where "at-risk" teens work at the jail, but it also talks about moving inmates around the jail. I read the article, and I admit that I could have missed something, but I never saw anywhere in the article where it said that this "kid" was not in custody. As far as "at-risk" youth, what do you know about how kids get to be labeled "at-risk"? They commit minor criminal acts, and participate in these programs in lieu of being prosecuted. That does not change the fact. The kid was in custody, and if you do not believe me, then read the definition of custody in Title 13 of the Alabama Criminal Code. I would also suggest that Lakeshow24 be reminded that this person is in custody in Calhoun County in the State of Alabama. I don't think anyone would argue that he was in Federal Custody. Yes, the rules are different for juveniles, just as they are for adults. And since someone spoke about this "kids" parents, I for one, would really like to know their opinion on the issue. I love my kids, and hope to never have to see them in this situation, however, if they put themselves there, then they will suffer the consequences of their actions. I would not stand for someone in authority abusing my children, but this is simply not abuse.
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 03:27 PM
Earlier I wrote these comments… are they true Annistonians?
Now Billy Bob and Corn Fed… (laugh track)
ya'll wanna step out whilst (laugh track)
I gives Jr. hereya (laugh track)
sum “dem” (LAUGH TRACK)
facts-o-life? (laugh track)
facts-facts-facts (laugh track)
Maybe, Jr, we cud pos dis on utube, heh? (laugh track)
How do you spell c-a-u-g-h-t? (laugh track)
Then I wrote…
I normally have something crass to say... especially when it comes to our town clowncilmen; a no-brainer, heh? (YaY setsail98) I normally agree with Marty; sage advice indeed. Normally Barton is for fartin; nothing changed there folks but this current debacle challenges me. How about you? How about you grocer? How about you oil lube man or fast food worker or post... person? How about you?
I really don't like our Sheriff. I think it is because he is overweight and presents a poor image; most deputies do too. He does nothing for the relations for our counties police and communities but then who does. That was not a question.
I read the past and present articles to include the infamous "ed bored" and came to a conclusion; odd as it may seem.
Quite simple fellow thespians...
h. Brat Air-s controls you. It is what you read, what you think, and opines you SEE. Heck, he even knows who I am and where I live and from whence I came...
That is scarier than this Amerson...
(proper elipse use Air-s)
How does one get your attention Anniston? (No laugh track)
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 03:37 PM
wrathofwheet wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 08:53 PM
I wonder if there's any other videos of this kind of behavior by the sheriff that might be hidden and nobody knows about.. do he treat all kids like this or just certain ones!!! shame on you sheriff Amerson,guess if you can't talk it out of him, you just choke it out. whoever turn the video in,you are more of a man then the sheriff. may God bless you. Amerson i hope that 2 minute of fame paid you well............
whatthe??? wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 06:57 AM
WHY DO THE PPL IN CALHOUN COUNTY KEEP ON LETTING THIS HAPPEN??? BY LAW THE YOUNG MAN WAS SUPPOSE TO BE IN DETENTION CAMP, NOT THERE AT THE JAIL FOR LARRY TO CHOKE HIM OUT. ALL I CAN SAY IF THAT WAS ONE OF MY FAMILY LARRY"S BUTT WOULD KNOW HOW IT FELT TO HAVE A LAWSUIT AGAINST HIM AND HIS ENITRE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD BE HIS WORST NIGHTMARE. THIS IS TO LARRY AND HIS DEPARTMENT HOW WOULD YA LIKE TO BE INMATES FOR A WHILE CAUSE I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME IN THERE THAT WOULD LOVE TO CHOKE YA OUT?
tiredofabuse wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 06:29 PM
I hope they hang him out to dry. He is just another example of a crooked and dirt bag official that only cares about money, power and pushing people around. I have heard all kind of stories of abuse going on in the Calhoun County Jail. The so called officials in charge turn their heads and close their eyes to what really goes on there. They are definately not good examples for our kids to learn their lessons on doing wrong. I believe he is just as guilty as the people he locks up and so is a whole lot more in our systems. I believe we should get rid of all the crooks in our judicial system, hey, but if we did, there wouldn't be anyone there. Our constitutional rights are being taken away more and more every day.
Guest3406191kn wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 05:31 PM
I think the shriff had the right to beat him.
He prolly said somethin mean and pissed him off. I think the shriff was just showing that you can't go a round sayin whadever you wanna and so's a beating was in order. The young'un may have said something outta order to a athority figure( shriff) and a elected person. I think he should be able to beat who he wants to whenevers they needs it, since, he is the shriff. If the shriff is not alowed to beat on someone, then who would have the right to beat our chidrens.
I think we should all be allowed to beat who we need to beat when they needs it, it would stop all the frivless law soots.
I says good fo the shriff!!
locomike wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 11:34 PM
Ok Annistonians it's about time to wake up,There is too much crap going on in this city alone,That folks don't realize,A lot of nonsense comments here and a lot of big mouths,Take a good look at how well this disgrace person eats,You keep feeding him and his followers,This person has lost control and it shows,Just like a lot of Clowns in this town,what happened to WE THE PEOPLE,What about the inmate who had food poisen and died because he did not get medical attention from the freakin staff.
BlueHorse2 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:13 AM
I hope and pray that the FBI finds this Sheriff, who is a dog, in my opinion guilty and throw him out of that office, he needs to go, he thinks he is God and is above the law, been there done that with him, he along with some of his officers stole everything I owned, set me up with drugs, attacked me and broke my wrist, knowing I was disabled, but they don't care, this County NEEDS A MAJOR MAJOR CHANGE IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, INCLUDING THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS, i.e. Jacksonville Police, Weaver police, just a few to mention, they already have so many lawsuits against the Jacksonville Police Department for excessive force and brutal attacks, especially on the poor INNOCENT women, that are now in prison where DO NOT BELONG. If you don't agree with the way they do their business, they will attack you and through you under the jail for NOTHING, JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH ME.....I WILL CERTAINLY GIVE THE FBI A EAR FULL, IF THEY CARE TO LISTEN AND NOT AFRAID TO USE MY NAME
Kimela Perkey formerly Alvarez
This law enforcement in this County, all of them are a disgrace, very very concerned county citizen for the innocent that go to jail while the real criminals are let out all the time, I'm a paralegal for over 30 years, and I know them all very well and they will harass you continually, and IT HAS TO BE STOPPED, especially Sheriff Amerson, he doesn't care if it's a child or not....and props to this boy's mom for sueing, and she WILL WIN THAT SUIT WITH THE RIGHT ATTORNEY, NOT ONE FROM CALHOUN COUNTY EITHER!!!!!!
arizonagirl wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 10:27 AM
I want to applaud C. Steele for being bold enough to report the truth.
I have had conversations with this reporter in the past about articles she has written which seemed very one sided - tilted towards the Sherrif's office.
During those conversations, she found that some of the information she had been given by the 'authorities', and actually printed, was not all factual. SURPRISE SURPRISE!
I encouraged her to be a 'fair and equitable' reporter, not to just report what she was told by the authorities, as the whole truth.
That there is always two sides to every story.
For far too long, those who have reported on crime/police issues have reported only what they were told by the 'authorities'....it is such a relief that finally there is a reporter in Calhoun County who wants the truth and not just what the 'authorities' want printed.
C. Steele, do not let these bullies scare you. If the truth be known, they are scared of you. They are not comfortable being in the presence of 'honest' people who demand the truth!
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arizonagirl wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 10:32 AM
First, I want to applaud C. Steele for being bold enough to report the truth.
I have had conversations with this reporter in the past about articles she has written which seemed very one sided - tilted towards the Sherrif's office.
During those conversations, much to her surprise, she found that some of the information she had been given by the 'authorities', and actually printed, was not all factual. SURPRISE SURPRISE!
I encouraged her to be a 'fair and equitable' reporter, not to just report what she was told by the authorities, as the whole truth.
For far too long, those who have reported on crime/police issues have reported only what they were told by the 'authorities'....it is such a relief that finally there is a reporter in Calhoun County who wants the truth and not just what the 'authorities' want printed.
C. Steele, do not let these bullies scare you. If the truth be known, they are scared of you. They are not comfortable being in the presence of 'honest' people who demand the truth!
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ImpartialTruth wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 10:51 AM
arizonagirl, I'd be more willing to applaud Ms. Steele if the Star had followed the proper procedures in the leaking of this video.
Ms. Steele's investigative skills are excellent and I typically enjoy reading her stories. That's one reason I was so annoyed when the video was leaked.
Her stories that have since been released should have been combined into an expose that left nothing up to speculation. The video by itself was like something your co-worker sends you in a forwarded email titled "Check this out!" It really made me lose my confidence of this reporter's judgment.
Thorough investigation should have preceded the video no matter what the video's contents revealed.
I have no issue with a newspaper investigating human rights violations, nor do I have issue with the Star's liberal slants (usually). I do take issue with the decision to prematurely expose a video involving a juvenile and an elected law enforcement officer without fully investigating first.
arizonagirl, there was nothing "fair and equitable" about that.
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The next day, The Anniston Star came out with the below Editorial:
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Unjustifiable behavior: Incident deserves proper attention (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12583679/article-Unjustifiable-behavior--Incident-deserves-proper-attention?)
by The Anniston Star Editorial Board · Anniston Star
Apr 01, 2011
Seen as a vague two-minute snippet in time, the video of Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson's handling of a cuffed and shackled juvenile male is a disturbing image. That can't be overstated.
What happened before or after Amerson twice used manual force on the juvenile is irrelevant. Why the teenager was being interviewed in the jail doesn't matter. Bound and defenseless, making no gestures toward the sheriff, he should not have been manhandled by someone in uniform, let alone the elected head of the Sheriff's Department.
Improper physical contact by law enforcement is dead wrong. It's inexcusable. That it can undermine the public's trust of those in uniform makes it even worse.
Yet, it's important that we differentiate between a matter of perception versus a matter of law.
Today, we urge Calhoun Countians to steer clear of a rush to eternal judgment of the sheriff. This is not the time to call for his resignation. We understand that is a natural response for those appalled by the video's images, as this editorial board is, or by those who have an ax to grind against Amerson.
Instead, we urge prosecutors at the appropriate levels to view this videotaped incident with the same scrutiny they would other potential cases. Do not let the sheriff's badge alter the process. It is not up to the court of public opinion to decide if Amerson has violated that juvenile's civil rights.
Instead, it is up to prosecutors to decide if the sheriff's regrettable use of force is worthy of the court's attention. The racially charged details of this situation — a white sheriff putting his hands on a bound black juvenile — makes it a lightning rod of negativity.
Along with the parties involved, Calhoun Countians need to see this situation handled swiftly. If there is no case against Amerson, prosecutors should say so. If it needs the court's attention, they should start that process.
Regardless of the outcome, this situation deserves the proper attention.
A strong sidebar to our condemnation of using force against a bound juvenile is the impact this may have for the Sheriff's Department, if not for local law enforcement as a whole. Cops and deputies are hard-working, vital parts of our communities. They're paid too little and thanked too infrequently.
Yet, this is a damning video with the potential for lingering and destructive viewpoints. We want to believe relations between county residents — regardless of their color — and the Sheriff's Department won't be irreparably strained by this incident.
Cynics often suspicious of police may use this as evidence that cops and deputies can't be trusted. That's a stretch for most law-abiding residents, and it's unfair to those in uniform, we admit. Nonetheless, it does officers no favor when another steps so publicly out of line.
Amerson's physical interactions with this bound teenager aren't merely disappointing, they're unjustifiable. There is no place for that behavior in law enforcement.
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meroll wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 05:38 AM
I beg to differ...There is a HUGE need for this behavior..Bound or not...Whether this is a juvenile or an adult matters not...There are those in our society that ONLY respond to "that type of behavior." Holding their hands and saying "now, don't do that." doesn't work for toddlers and it certainly doesn't work for gangbangers and thugs.
Go spend a day with a cop and then tell me how you feel.
But there are some who will NEVER "get it."
We'll see how liberal you are when it's one of your family members that get harmed by one of these "poor, unfortunate, picked-on children".
skalag wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 06:12 AM
I don't usually post here but I must in this case. I don't know what happened before or after the snippet of tape we see here. This kid was there for a reason, we just don't know what the reason is. What bothers me most about the tape is that the witnesses are seen leaving the room before the sheriff manhandles the kid. Since everyone is saying he is a minor then we have to believe he is a minor until we are told otherwise. A minor should have been taken to the juvenile detention center, his family notified and he should never have been questioned without a family member or an attorney present. I'm pretty sure this boy is no angel. And never presume that your child could not end up there. It happens.
I do have a question. Why is it that whenever there is a different point of view to stories like this the die hard conversatives come out with the word liberal? Does not matter what the political affiliation is, what matters is getting to the truth in this matter. And that is the only thing that should matter. JMHO
nonhyphenatedAmerican wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 07:40 AM
skalag wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 06:12 AM
I do have a question. Why is it that whenever there is a different point of view to stories like this the die hard conversatives come out with the word liberal ? ..........................here is the answer; the justice system has become so liberal to the point of more emphasis has been put on the criminals right more than the victims right. This does nothing but perpetuate criminal behavior knowing punishment will be nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
deepsix9 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:33 AM
Funny how people react to incidents like this. Because the kid is black, of course all the black groups are up in arms. If the kid had been white, you would not hear a word about it.
No one deserves to be treated as this video MIGHT show. However, we do not know all the facts. Did the kid SPIT in the face of the sheriff? If so, HOW WOULD YOU react to someone spitting in your face? And don't tell me you would just let it go. You would not. You would react much as the sheriff apparently did. I could see NO choking in the video. Too far away to clearly say that. Chin push, maybe.
But, most of these groups who are howling are the same ones who whine, moan and groan every time a law enforcement officer does something. Simply watch some of those shows on TV to see what law enforcement has to put up with every hour of the day. Their lives are on the line just as military personnel are. People DON'T want a cop around them, UNTIL they are in fright themselves, then they are yelling for the po-lice to get there now!!!
People are trying to make this appear as the 1960s white Birmingham sheriff, Bull Connor, again assaulting blacks with fire hoses. Ain't true folks. Get a grip.
Until an investigation is completed against the sheriff by someone else, we will not know the truth. AND, don't yell cover up. Law enforcement will be investigated for misconduct. It happens every day when a citizen files a complaint.
I just wonder about the video person turning in the tape. An act of conscience or is he someone who was just waiting for the sheriff to mess up so he could "get him back" for some reason??? We don't know. WAY WAY WAY too many questions at this point.
I am not surprised that the black groups have started yelling. They always do. Except of course when the black gangs shoot up the hood and they refuse to help the cops catch the disadvantaged thugs who did the shootings.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:10 AM
Dear Editorial Board,
I typically agree with most of your viewpoints, but I have to respectfully disagree with your stance on this one. Have you ever worked with teenagers? More specifically, have you ever worked with juvenile delinquents who have no parental support and have rarely been disciplined? If so, you would know that these teenagers are disrespectful, violent in their emotional expression, and in dire need of discipline from someone, anyone. If the sheriff felt the need to get physical with this kid, I have reason to believe that it was needed. We cannot coddle these delinquent juveniles. We cannot use the media to accuse a trusted law enforcement officer of acting inappropriately when we are not apprised of the full details. This type of reporting does more harm than good for our society, especially to our children who get the message that no matter how violent and lawless they are, no one can lay a hand on them. I agree with you in that children should be protected and have rights, but I disagree with your comment "What happened before or after Amerson twice used manual force on the juvenile is irrelevant."
I disagree because you have no idea what this juvenile might have done to warrant such force. It does not matter what color he is or what color the sheriff is. Let's not paint this into a racial riot. You are not trained law enforcement officers, so your high-minded ideas concerning human rights possibly do not apply to this situation.
I wish you would focus your efforts on a story that actually has the ability to improve our society, such as the condition of parenting in today's culture. Parents these days are too dependent on the "system" to raise their children. The increase in the number of juvenile delinquents is a product of this. I'd appreciate an editorial that digs into the family dynamic of those below the poverty line and proposes ideas to help them rise up. If you took aim at the source, instead of calling a sheriff's actions inexcusable without even understanding the entirety of the situation, you might uncover something spectacular.
JustPlainBill wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:31 AM
Good people can make mistakes. Law enforcement unfortunately can become very passionate and even violent in an instant. It is difficult to suppress emotions and turn the other cheek when you are on the front line in a war that is being lost. The one item no one touches on is a lack of soldiers in our war on crime. Law enforcement budgets have and continue to be cut to the point of forcing planning and experience to be replaced by spontaneity and knee-jerk reaction. Sheriff Amerson should not be involved or even interact with prisoners outside a controlled environment. This is what happens when law enforcement is spread to the point of transparency. Put up a camera and lay off a cop is now the American way. How many police officers could be hired if GE did not get 3.2 billion dollars in tax refund from the federal government. Still think we need to help poor corporate America? Or do we need to fix our society and let corporate America pick up the tab?
JerryM wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 01:09 PM
If this was video taken by a citizen from an observable distance, in public, that citizen might very well be in jail right now for the made up crime of "filming police." Filming police as a new kind of criminal offense, to cover up alleged brutality, is a little known crime.
redr00 wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 04:28 PM
From what I understand via the Fox 6 News report any juvenile at the jail wearing striped clothing is there for a special program (reality check) because they have been kicked out of school for bad behavior. They need to see what jail is like so that they won't want to be locked up. Maybe Amerson was trying to give this young man a glimpse of what prison might be like.
msmimi wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 10:43 PM
This editorial, biased as it is, is a classic example of inciting racial conflict. Whoever is responsible for this tasteless 'editorial' needs to read some of the outstanding comments below. < > moving us forward as a whole, instead of holding us back by making this about race. Sheriff Amerson has been and outstanding officer of the law with and outstanding record. Because he called the Anniston Liar out for their error of showing this juvenile's face, you convict him in your 'news'. This paper is a joke and you are making our town into a joke.
docsteve58 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:45 AM
Most people know Sheriff Amerson to be a hard working and decent person. Kids in a 'scared straight' program most likely already have behavior problems and are headed for causing law-abiding persons trouble. This is great... his family now sees an opportunity to turn this into a big lawsuit that will burden productive working taxpayers even more than we are. The family should be appreciative the county is trying to straighten the kid out before he becomes more trouble in the future. As usual this is being played as racism... the kid's race probably has nothing to do with Sheriff Amerson's treatment of him. The majority of law-abiding people realize that Sheriff Amerson is trying to make this county safe for decent people.
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The editorial was followed by two articles. Below is the first one.
This program is apparently run via an agreement between Family Links Inc. and the local sheriff's office:
Several months ago, the Sheriff's Office and Family Links Inc., a children's behavior task force for the county, began the program as a way to let high-risk kids see what jail might be like.
Family Links Director Lyndsey Gillam said Thursday that children who have been suspended from school or those who have committed criminal offenses and are not behaving in their court-ordered education classes are eligible for the jail-work program, which does not have an official name and only began several months ago.[/list][/size]
The same video (as in the previous article) is accessible via the below article's title link.
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Sheriff Amerson's actions on tape out of character, colleagues say (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12585857/article-Sheriff-Amerson-s-actions-on-tape-out-of-character--colleagues-say?)
by Cameron Steele · Star Staff Writer
Apr 01, 2011
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Calhoun County officials who've worked closely with Sheriff Larry Amerson over the years said Thursday they felt the sheriff's actions shown in a video publicly released that morning were out of character. Those officials also said the video was taken out of context, although many of them acknowledged they hadn't seen the clip and didn't want to.
The video was first published by The Anniston Star after a source requesting anonymity gave it to the newspaper Wednesday.
It shows the sheriff using physical force on a juvenile male during an interview at the Calhoun County Jail.
A criminal procedure expert who watched the video has called the sheriff's recent actions "an outrageous assault" but former Calhoun County District Attorney Bob Field said Thursday any sort of violent action on Amerson's part is unusual.
"I find him to be kind of a quiet, laid-back sort of guy, who is very dedicated to his job," Field said. "And very professional about the way he went about investigating. That wasn't the case with all law enforcements officers."
Field served as the district attorney for Calhoun and Cleburne counties for 18 years, during which he worked on several major felony investigations with Amerson, a deputy sheriff at the time.
Amerson has worked in public safety since he graduated from Jacksonville State University in 1975 with a degree in law enforcement. Afterward, he spent 14 years as a deputy sheriff, six years as director of the Calhoun County 911 Board and the last 16 years as sheriff.
Field and others who've worked with Amerson throughout his law-enforcement career describe him as even-tempered and hard-working. They said they can't remember a time when Amerson acted violent toward anyone. A search of The Star's archives for the past two decades brought up no former reports of police brutality accusations against Amerson.
Calhoun County Coroner Pat Brown said he's worked with the sheriff on every criminal case that's involved a death for the past five years. The coroner said he has a hard time believing the two-and-a-half minute clip shows Amerson acting violently without cause toward a juvenile.
Dan Long, former director of the county's Emergency Management Agency, worked with Amerson in his current capacity as sheriff and also when he was the director of the 911 Board. He couldn't remember any complaints about Amerson acting roughly toward another person.
But Long, Brown and Field all said they hadn't watched the video clip and didn't plan to.
Videotaped 'talk'
In the two-and-a-half-minute silent video, Amerson grabs the boy, who is seated on a bench next to him, handcuffed, shackled and dressed in an orange-striped jumpsuit. Amerson forces the boy's head back toward the wall by pushing on the boy's chin; the sheriff then holds the boy in that position for several seconds.
After a moment of what appears to be further conversation between the sheriff and the boy, Amerson uses both arms, one at the boy's shirt collar, to pull him backward against the wall again.
During an interview with The Star on Wednesday, Amerson acknowledged the video shows a portion of what he described as "a talk" between himself and the boy. But Amerson stressed he couldn't comment about any other aspect of that interaction because it would be unlawful to discuss a matter that might become a juvenile case.
'Excessive physical force'
Field said he'd heard information from various people that the juvenile had spit at the sheriff to provoke him.
"That would certainly test your patience; that would certainly test mine," Field said. "From what I can see in the pictures (published in The Star), the worst that apparently happened was some shoving and pushing. He might have tried to push the guy away from him for trying to spit on him."
Calhoun County Sgt. Jon Garlick said he was at the Sheriff's Office, which is connected to the county jail, the day the talk between the sheriff and the juvenile took place.
"They called me when that kid started to act out," Garlick said. "Knowing what I know and without commenting on the criminal case, (Amerson's) behavior in the interview and the pictures from the video were not in any way an excess of force."
Garlick said he didn't watch the video published by The Star because he didn't need to.
Field said, in his opinion as a former district attorney, the still pictures taken from the video that were published in The Star and the story that went along with them did not represent Amerson using excessive physical force on the boy.
But LaJuana Davis, a criminal law and procedure expert at Samford University's Cumberland School of Law, watched the video Wednesday and call Amerson's actions a violation of the boy's rights.
"I would characterize this as an outrageous assault on a cuffed and shackled person," Davis said in an emailed statement.
After watching the video, Davis emphasized that there is no excuse for a law enforcement officer "choking a shackled person without justification."
An attorney with the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery also called The Star Thursday to express concern about the sheriff's actions taken against a child who was not even an inmate at the jail.
Amerson said Alabama law regarding situations that may turn into juvenile cases prevents him from discussing what, if anything, the juvenile might have done to warrant the kind of physical force the video shows the sheriff using.
Juveniles in jail?
Amerson wouldn't talk about why the boy shown in the video was dressed in a jumpsuit, wearing cuffs and leg shackles. But he did say that any juveniles who are seen in the jail dressed in inmate jumpsuits are there at the request of their parents.
Several months ago, the Sheriff's Office and Family Links Inc., a children's behavior task force for the county, began the program as a way to let high-risk kids see what jail might be like.
Family Links Director Lyndsey Gillam said Thursday that children who have been suspended from school or those who have committed criminal offenses and are not behaving in their court-ordered education classes are eligible for the jail-work program, which does not have an official name and only began several months ago.
Parents — both those who want to keep kids who've been suspended from school busy and those who want to give children who've committed crimes a view of life behind bars — can sign waivers to send their children to work at the jail from 8 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.
Gillam said that while the children are there, the Sheriff's Office employees who supervise them have discretion about when and how to reprimand them. And because the Sheriff's Office has that discretion, Gillam emphasized it's not up to Family Links employees to say whether punishment for a juvenile who's misbehaved should involve interrogation, handcuffs and leg shackles or physical force.
She refused to comment specifically on the actions the video shows the sheriff taking against the juvenile boy who was part of that program.
"I don't know all the facts of that case; I think there's more to it than is being reported," Gillam said. "I think that sheriff is being cast in a negative light."
"Not the whole story"
Matthew Wade, who's served as Amerson's chief deputy for the past six years, said Thursday he and the sheriff wished they could give their full account of what happened.
"I'd love to give you the whole story and the whole entire video, if one existed," Wade said. "I don't think he's done anything wrong and I stand behind him. We want to be open and transparent about the things we do; if we've done something wrong, we'll admit it, we'll try to fix it."
Indeed, when the Sheriff's Office or one of its employees have fallen under public criticism in the past, Amerson has been open with The Star about those issues, their origins and how he would handle them in the future.
In October a Calhoun County Jail inmate escaped from Regional Medical Center, where he was in the custody of a corrections officer and a deputy. Then, Amerson readily admitted the mistake was on the part of the Sheriff's Office employees, who had let the inmate walk around without wearing leg shackles.
"There was an absolute breakdown in the security of this (hospital) room," Amerson said in an interview with The Star soon after the inmate, David Hunt, escaped. "There is no excuse."
A year earlier, when former Circuit Judge Joel Laird criticized the jail staff for the number of contraband items that got past the booking room, Amerson was up front then, too, and open to new policy suggestions for better jail security.
Contraband weapons "are a risk to the security of the jail, and we want to prosecute them," Amerson told a Star reporter back in October 2009. "If this is a change in policy, we're all for it."
Alabama Trooper Chad Joiner, the public relations contact for the troopers, said Thursday he sent the story about the recent video and Amerson's actions that was printed in The Star to officials with the Alabama Bureau of Investigations.
But both Joiner and ABI spokeswoman Robyn Litchfield said the state agency was not investigating Amerson at this time.
A spokesman with the Federal Bureau of Investigations in Washington D.C. said the agency could not confirm or deny whether it was investigating an active case.
Messages left at the FBI office in Birmingham were not returned Thursday.
Star staff writer Cameron Steele: 256-235-3562.
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Apparently, a number of folks are not too happy with Sheriff Amerson for a variety of reasons:
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rjabc03 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 04:15 AM
Well the key word here is "juvenile"....NO adult has the right to put their hands on a minor. The boy was shackled!!! what could he possibly have done that hurt Amerson? Nothing...even if he had spit on Amerson...Amerson was the ADULT, so why didnt he act like one? Granted I would have been highly ticked had the minor did that, but I think I could have controlled myself enough to realize this minor was acting like a 2 yr old. Amerson should have taken a time out.
It is a good thing the minor wasnt my child because I can honestly say I would have probably did something that would not be appropiate...i.e. acted liked a out of control 'child' as Amerson did...
If you hold a public position in law enforcement you have to conduct yourself to reflect the law.....what Amerson did was not a reflection of what I want my children to believe what our American Rights are all about.
Sooo many children are afraid to speak to anyone in law enforcement because of the actions that our 'saviors' are shown, caught, and tried in a court of law for 'abusing the badge'.
Amerson should have set a better example to a child that may have never had a good role model in his life.
When does the violence end?? especially when you(Amerson) are doing violence to others?
meroll wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 05:27 AM
There's been an awful lot of folks expressing their opinions about what they can see in this video. Unfortunately, noone knows what was actually being said or done. If it is true that this young man spit on the sheriff, I say the boys lucky that all he got was pushed around. I saw NO choking. What I saw was the Sheriff grab the boy by the chin and force his head back.
People are so eager to take the sides of these young men who are put there for behavioral correction but give NO thought as to WHY these young people are there, or to whom they may have done harm. I guess that doesn't matter anymore. As long as criminals are kept safe and warm and have t.v. to watch and three meals a day, everything will be okay...Their crimes no longer matter.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't jail supposed to be a place that is so horrible, a person will not want to go back? These days, "jail" is just another place to make drug/criminal connections.
Keep coddling these potentially violent young men. You'll be weeping at the funerals of one of their victims before you know it. And then you'll be screaming about "What SHOULD have been done."
I'm not a fan of Amerson's at ALL. As a matter of fact, I've voted against him the past two elections...BUT This is NOT and should NOT be an issue or even a story ANNISTON STAR. IT's reporting like this that has made our legal system the piece of crap it is, today. God forbid a criminal be made uncomfortable. You'll answer to the newspaper if you do.
Band76 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 05:39 AM
Juat as could be exspected...all come forward statig "taken out of context" which should't be any surprise to anyone. Of course this is abuse of the badge like the 2 in New Orleans one was senteance to 25 & one 17 years in federal prison with 17 more to go. It seems lae-enforcement over the country are and have been out of control. If they can't abide by the law get out nobody made the choice for any they themselves made it. Can't take the heat get out!!
PoliticalGarbage wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 06:07 AM
Meroll...explain to me how the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the county breaking someones rights is not something newsworthy?
Also,despite your opinions,what the sheriff did was wrong,and against the law. It will probably cost him his job, as well as the possibilities of civil and criminal litigation against him.While you may think the actions are warranted,and that we "coddle" criminals,take away our rights,and see what happens.The alternative is a much more frightening scenario.
jvillecitizen wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 07:45 AM
How can you even defend Amerson's actions but refuse to watch the video that depicts them? This is very disturbing to me that these public officials are just ignoring this issue and essentially turning the other way. I'm hoping further investigation is carried out by an outside agency like the FBI because the only rhetoric I'm seeing is 'protect your own' and that is not how law enforcement should be kept accountable. It seems like anyone outside the county has no problem seeing this as an outrageous assault on a shackled juvenile.
oneancientpagan wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 08:04 AM
Outrageous assault?Are you kidding me?Maybe the sheriff and the parents know each other.Fear is a wonderful tool,when kept in check.Look what its done for the church.
ParkerJ wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 08:55 AM
A blind man can see this boy is getting choked. All of you who are defending the sheriff should be ashamed, especially those of you who refuse to watch the video. It's no surprise to read all the double talk and excuses being made for this old man losing his temper and judgment. Maybe if the "Good ole' boy" system were not in place, he might have actually gotten punished for his assault on this UNARMED AND SHACKLED TEENAGER. How many times has this happened and NOT been caught on camera? Of course none of his cronies are going to report it, look at them now defending his horrible actions. This county needs an enema.
DjMarkspinz wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:13 AM
Even if this kids was the largest dope dealing sex offender in the county under arrest for killing his mother.. he still has rights under that lil peice of paper we called the U.S. Constitution. There is NO REASON to lay hands on this kid while he is sitting down cuffed and wearing shackles. I say this out burst by the sherrif is gonna cost the county a good chunk of change, This kid just hit the lottery, Show that video to 12 people in a court room and you have just gave him a blank check. Again NO REASON in the world can show a sufficient lawful reason for this act against this minor. context will not come into play when this is all said and done.
honestgovernment wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:14 AM
whats the matter star, you scared of the truth and pulling my comments? You know how to tell which pig got stuck? its the one squealing.....
meroll wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:40 AM
I HAVE watched the video...I saw NO rights being violated...I guess it's alright for the criminals to spit, kick and assault the officers but not the other way around...And IF you'd read what I wrote you would have seen "If it is true that this young man spit on the sheriff, I say the boys lucky that all he got was pushed around. I saw NO choking. What I saw was the Sheriff grab the boy by the chin and force his head back."
In my opinion all you who are condemning this man AFTER having watched the video, it is YOU who should be ashamed.
We'll see how liberal you are when crime DIRECTLY affects your lives. If it were up to you people, there'd be no jails...Just grown up daycares with cookies and milk and nappy-time. IDIOTS
outraged2011 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:42 AM
why are we trying to make sense of the clip? our eyes are not deceiving us. our "precious" sheriff assaulted an unarmed restrained juvenile. point blank. everyone see the same thing but want to assume something else. stop! it's a criminal matter - arrest him for an assault and have hime register with DHR as a child abuser. let not make accuses for the sheriff. he messed up and got caught. he didn't think the tape was going to go public. now, county DA, what's your next move. action should be taken immediately. the child's parents need to press charges against our "even temper" sheriff. Sheriff Amerson assaulted a juvenile while he was in handcuffs. That's the fact!
ImpartialTruth wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:43 AM
Maybe if more parents disciplined their children and actually gave two hoots about raising them to be contributing members of society, these kinds of juvenile criminals would not exist.
This is a poor representation of Sheriff Amerson and these personal attacks of sitting officials need to stop, Star. If you will not allow the whole truth to be published, what is your agenda? Because a journalist should not have an agenda. A journalist should report the news fair and square and let people make up their own mind.
Lakeshow24 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:53 AM
FEDERAL JUVENILE DELINQUENCY ACT 18 USC § 5033
Custody prior to appearance before magistrate.
Whenever a juvenile is taken into custody for an alleged act of juvenile delinquency, the arresting officer shall immediately advise such juvenile of his legal rights, in language comprehensive to a juvenile, and shall immediately notify the Attorney General and the juvenile’s parents, guardian, or custodian of such custody. The arresting officer shall also notify the parents, guardian, or custodian of the rights of the juvenile and of the nature of the alleged offense.
The juvenile shall be taken before a magistrate forthwith. In no event shall the juvenile be detained for longer than a reasonable period of time before being brought before a magistrate.
These are the rights that a juvenile, being a U.S. citizen are entitled to. This is basicly everything Larry Amerson didnt do. How did the Anniston Star get this tape? It came from the Police. Someone who has integrity and a heart sent it out, because they too knew that this was wrong. Lets acknowledge what Amerson and his supporters are trying to do here, Cover His @$$. There was no threat from the "juvenile" to the CAREER Officer. He was HANDCUFFED and SHACKLED when Amerson grabbed him by the throat.What if this was your relative or child? Would you have a different opinion? This is a criminal matter now. This is just a simple assault that will have a ripple effect across the county. What will the new DA do now. If he does nothing then he is going along with the actions of Amerson. All he did was violate the rights of a juvenile and the constitution of the United States.
John5299 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:53 AM
First of all I want to congratulate the reporter at the Star for exposing this. Also, to the person that blew the whistle on Amerson. It may be out of character for Amerson to do what he did, but according to the video he did it. I think maybe he is getting too old for the job. Apparently, he doesn't have the patience he may have once had. We need some new blood in the Sheriff's Office. The Sheriff's Office and jail are Amerson's kingdom and apparently he thinks he can get by with anything. At a time when needed people are going to be laid off because of the State budget, the last thing we need is for the Sheriff to be sued, costing the county alot of money we don't have to defend him. This money could be used to possible keep and pay personnel in the court system. Thanks to Cameron Steele and the Anniston Star for revealing this story.
msmimi wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:53 AM
I totally agree with meroll. Sheriff Amerson did nothing wrong. If the parents of this boy had jerked a knot in his head theirselves, he wouldn't have been shackled in jail to begin with. Kids today have no respect for authority and we are all suffering for that. Discipline begins in the home. So don't criticize the sheriff for having to do the PARENTS job! Supporting the Sheriff 100% and he should be given a medal for disciplining that disrespectful crimminal!!!
meroll wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:11 AM
Mr. Barton...I would very much like to meet with you. You and I have been on opposite ends on a few issues but I think we have more in common than you may think...tell ya what...my email is [email protected]....I think it's time we had a meeting of the minds, don't you?
1SGRock wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:14 AM
WAKE UP and smell the rose. If someone would do their homework without worry of retaliations, justice will prevail. To start with, Larry Dean Amerson and only Larry Dean Amerson knows what really transpired between himself and the alleged "Ill Reputed Juvenile". YOU THINK??? GOD ALMIGHTY KNOWS. If you spat on me, called my Mother or Wife a name not to be reckined with, I would not have the right to slam, push, shove, or man handle you. What would you do if it happened to you? I believe the word is "DISCIPLINE". They teach it in the Military. Oh, I am so sorry as I have no knowledge as to whether Larry served or not. If so, he should be familiar with it. It honestly does not matter what we think of this man whom wears a badge or how many popsickles he has sucked in his lifetime. The bottom line is he got caught going overboard. I thought Larry Dean Amerson was the Sheriff??? Why was he even in a room with this juvenile? Does he not have Deputies or Investigators who could have related with this young man. He should have been doing what he does best and that apparently wasn't it. Hopefully, just hopefully, someone who has a set and is not worried about any form of retaliation, will tell all. There was a time when things went awry and people in places of such importance took care of matters. Whoever released the video, I owe you a meal of your choice. Cameron, go for it, dig deep and you will be rewarded.
outraged2011 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:22 AM
Now, we blame the parents for the Sheriff assaulting him. The young man is a victim. You blame the victim in any case. The fact is the Sheriff is not the child's parent: he needs to jerk his own children around not someone elses. Come on, are we really making the Sheriff to be the victim. The kid didn't jump across with both arms and pull the Sheriff down against wall, nor did he attempt to choke the Sheriff. He couldn't he was in handcuffs, but the Sheriff did. That's wrong. Whether it was an adult or a child, you don't assault a defenseless person. If they call you to talk to the kids who act out, then talk. But what Sheriff Amerson did was bully the child by using his authority unlawfully. Victims are never to blame.
DjMarkspinz wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:30 AM
msmimi you have lost sight here, not only are you ok with the sherrif violating civil rights you admit to backing child abuse by putting " knots " on kids heads. Child abuse is the physical, sexual, emotional mistreatment, or neglect of children. Even if you think the rough treatment was ok what do you think about the emotional effects are going to be. what do you think the sherrif was saying to him.... Maybe it went like this ~~~ Hi Son I'm Sherrif Amerson are you having a good day ? Do you need a drink or something to eat ? Is your Bed soft enough ?~~~~ I really dont think that was the point he was trying to make as this kids head hit the wall behind him. Looks like at least 2 of the key points of Child abuse have been met in the video, physical and emotional mistreatment. This story ain't over people, details will come out and the county will be the one to suffer.
Youarewastingyourfreedom wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:43 AM
"Garlick said he didn’t watch the video published by The Star because he didn’t need to."
"Garlick said “Knowing what I know and without commenting on the criminal case, (Amerson’s) behavior in the interview and the pictures from the video were not in any way an excess of force.”
Please tell me you've never spent time as an investigator Sgt.Garlick. So, if assault doesn't fall under "wrongdoing" we ALL need to fear the CCSO! Any of us could be assaulted by any CCSO officer, because in their opinion assaults aren't aginst "their" law. I wonder if Sgt.Garlick will defend the juveniles father if he "straightens out" Amerson in the same way for breaking the law. Either this is the Good Ol' Boys club playing CYA, or we obviously have the most incompetent Sheriff's office in America. I think it's a good bit of both.
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outraged2011 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:53 AM
Dear Child Abuse Hotline:
On March 31st, I came across a video on the Anniston Star website displaying a public official, Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson, appearing to be "child abuse" on a defenseless handcuff minor. I respectfully request the immediate investigation against Sheriff Amerson. I am scared that he have and will continue to abuse youth in our community.
Sincerely the Fact,
Outraged2011
1SGRock wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 11:02 AM
The job of being in Law Enforcement is a very tough and demanding one. That of being the Sheriff requires much responsibility and one of those is being able to select personnel of various positions of responsibilities. It requires much to be in a position of authority and maintain control of ones being. Providing we do our jobs in a very professional manner, we will surely be rewarded. When we make mistakes we are corrected by someone in a position of authority over us. None of us are above the laws that we protect our society with. There is an old saying that when the going gets tough, the tough get going. When we as Police Officers are called upon by the very people we protect, do us harm by being spat on, kicked, slapped, cursed by names we are unfamiliar with, and receive no respect even by children at times. Folks, we really need the men that wear those badges, but we need people of great respect with regard for the health, welfare, and safety of all mankind. You see, we have entrusted this man with our all and we need him if he is of good. If he isn't, we need to send him down the road and provide him with the same cuffs and shackles he has given this kid. Lets just hope and pray that justice will prevail for all of mankind. I say bring in someone who has no sides to take and do their thing. If we have a few bad guys among the good, send them off with a message that we will not tolerate hypocrisy. I will say "THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR SAFETY!" to all of the Honest and Dedicated Police Officers of Calhoun County. For the Wolves among the Sheep, I say "MAY THE FLEAS OF A THOUSAND CAMELS INFEST YOUR ARMPITS & YOU CORRECT YOUR WAYS!"
luvinmylife wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 11:22 AM
John Garlick??are u serious??You are a man that I once respected and actually beleived that treated children fair and u cared!!!WOW,never again!!U have disgraced me by defending a man who was caught dead in the wrong.Period.So you all "say"the child spit on the "sheriff"ok??All of you all that are in this article defending your "sheriff" are pathetic!!I hope that this young boys parents make all of you stand accountable for the senseless act of violence and abuse he suffered.If we as parents used this kind of force and abuse on our own children we would loose custody and be put in jail!!I am still asking why is he still your "sheriff"??
scarllett5 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 11:25 AM
And Jesus said: If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
The boy seemed to be turning the cheek from the sheriff but let us not forget that:
Violence begets Violence
STOP POLICE VIOLENCE NOW!
1SGRock wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 11:39 AM
I just now sat down and read all of these comments. Golly, I am totally suprised at all of you people that honestly "DO NOT HAVE A CLUE". Of course, some of you have stretched the truth a bit and ya know it!
calhounjustice wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 11:51 AM
The INMATE, needed someone long before this to get in his face, and teach him respect!
For everyone who says the poor boy was abused, lets see what you think when you face this boy standing in your house!
Thank you Sheriff, you should have the same discussion with his parents, if they cna be found!
1SGRock wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 11:54 AM
Luvinmylife, you said it all. I couldn't have agreed with you any more. All of them will stand before God when this is said and done, if justice prevails. That is the key to this whole event. On one hand, it is not worthy of wasting our time when we have people committing very serious crimes in our County and the Sheriff is playing games with a juvy. On the other hand, LARRY GOT CAUGHT!!! LARRY GOT CAUGHT!!! If he is doing simple things such as this, what else can he be up to. I don't think the Attorney Generals Investigators can cover this one up. The people of Calhoun County need to know who really cares about them and it isn't the imposter wearing the badge named Larry Dean Amerson! You don't have to listen to me or anyone else on this site because anyone whom has a grudge with Larry could speak ill of him. Don't ask the people who work for him, heck they have to feed their families too. Ask someone like his Ex. or check Calhoun & Talladega County records. For that matter, follow and document his every movement, it has been done in the past. He is what he is and some know dearly!
DjMarkspinz wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 12:08 PM
calhounjustice what school did you go to where you learn respect by getting in someones face... I got the meaning of respect from my father who was an investigator for Etowah county and an Army Vet, as for facing this kid in my house, with the money he will get from his civil suit I dont think he will need to be breaking into houses for money.
1SGRock wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 12:33 PM
Calhounjustice must have went to school with larry. You are as blind as everyone else who supports this idiot of a Sheriff or on his payroll. If he still has a payroll after this kid eats this County alive!
Dewaynek78 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 12:34 PM
It is a shame that poeple can stick together even when they know things are clearly wrong. And, instead of stating facts, they skate around the issue just to keep from admitting the truth. Ex: My co-wokrs and myself were talking about this issue. One co worker said, "Yes, I know him
[the sheriff] he goes to my church". Another said, "He grabbed the boy by his kneck while he was in handcuffs". The first worked replied, "well, he wasn't really a boy". What does that matter?? He was going to find a reason to stick behind his "buddy" by any means. Shanmeless!![/list]
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 01:01 PM
I normally have something crass to say... especially when it comes to our town clowncilmen; a no-brainer, heh? I normally agree with Marty; sage advice indeed. Normally Barton is for fartin; nothing changed there folks but this current debacle challenges me. How about you? How about you grocer? How about you oil lube man or fast food worker or post... person? How about you?
I really don't like our Sheriff. I think it is because he is overweight and presents a poor image; most deputies do too. He does nothing for the relations for our counties police and communities but then who does. That, was not a question.
I read the past and present articles to include the infamous "ed bored" and came to a conclusion; odd as it may seem.
Quite simple fellow thesbians...
h. Brat Air-s controls you. It is what you read, what you think, and opines you SEE. Heck, he even knows who I am and where I live and from whence I came...
That is more scary than this Amerson...
(proper elipse use Air-s)
JerryM wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 01:11 PM
If this was video taken by a citizen from an observable distance, in public, that citizen might very well be in jail right now for the made up crime of "filming police." Filming police as a new kind of criminal offense, to cover up alleged brutality, is a little known crime.
Second, for those who said the kid spit in the sheriff's face, the kid was turned away for a few seconds before the sheriff reacted by grabbing him. It took the sheriff that long to react or the kid bounced spit off the wall while turned away? Is this the magic loogi defense of Seinfeld?
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 01:23 PM
Remember Jerry...
People do not like the truth
They are uncomfortable with it
Liberalism Mantra 101
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 03:28 PM
Earlier I wrote these comments… are they true Annistonians?
Now Billy Bob and Corn Fed… (laugh track)
ya'll wanna step out whilst (laugh track)
I gives Jr. hereya (laugh track)
sum “dem” (LAUGH TRACK)
facts-o-life? (laugh track)
facts-facts-facts (laugh track)
Maybe, Jr, we cud pos dis on utube, heh? (laugh track)
How do you spell c-a-u-g-h-t? (laugh track)
Then I wrote…
I normally have something crass to say... especially when it comes to our town clowncilmen; a no-brainer, heh? (YaY setsail98) I normally agree with Marty; sage advice indeed. Normally Barton is for fartin; nothing changed there folks but this current debacle challenges me. How about you? How about you grocer? How about you oil lube man or fast food worker or post... person? How about you?
I really don't like our Sheriff. I think it is because he is overweight and presents a poor image; most deputies do too. He does nothing for the relations for our counties police and communities but then who does. That was not a question.
I read the past and present articles to include the infamous "ed bored" and came to a conclusion; odd as it may seem.
Quite simple fellow thespians...
h. Brat Air-s controls you. It is what you read, what you think, and opines you SEE. Heck, he even knows who I am and where I live and from whence I came...
That is scarier than this Amerson...
(proper elipse use Air-s)
How does one get your attention Anniston? (No laugh track)
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 03:37 PM
ohlawdy wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 04:21 PM
Sheriff Amerson violated civil and criminal law and is now hiding behind this supposed juvenile criminal charge to try to weather the storm that has so justly come crashing in on him.
I can conceive of no justification for what the sheriff did. Regardless of what the child did to provoke him, Sheriff Amerson's attack on a restrained person who posed no threat was barbaric. It was the very definition of assault and was a reprehensible act. What he did was simply police brutality.
Civilization and the rule of law is what is supposed to separate the good guys from the bad guys.
Bad guys don't respect the rights of others. Using force against a helpless person is what bad guys do. Ordering potential witnesses to leave the room is what bad guys do. Making excuses, evading responsibility, and attempting to justify crimes is what bad guys do.
Good guys respect the rights of others. Good guys act within the limits of the law and accomplish their goals through honest effort and concerted thought. Good guys aren't afraid of having others see what they do. Good guys make mistakes. Good guys admit them, seek forgiveness, make ammends, and work hard to never make the same mistake again. Good guys are humble. Good guys stand up for the weak - they don't engage in evasive logical contortions to defend a friend who's done wrong.
Is Sheriff Amerson a good guy who did a bad thing? Is he a bad guy who was caught being himself? Are the friends and co-workers who defend him without having even seen the video good guys? Aren't they supposed to be?
outraged2011 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 04:23 PM
Are you serious? People stop making excuses for the Sheriff. He messed up -- Ok. It happens, now he needs to learn from his mistakes -- behind bars with the others who messed up. In watching the video, there is no reason for you to attack and bully a defenseless person, let alone a minor. He broke the law: assaulted and abused a minor. He would arrest a person who had done what he done. If the child said something, it doesn't mess because he did not physically assault him. Also, you don't go around beating up people, I mean children, because they say something you don't agree with. The "even temper" Sheriff knows that.
cfreese1977 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 04:31 PM
Can't really tell what caused this problem due to no sound. It appears from watching the video that the Sheriff tells the other three officers to leave the room. Why? When there is a camera running. Someone said that the kid spit in the sheriff's face? I didn't see the sheriff wiping his face. Lots of questions and no answers. Only two people know why this happened.
outraged2011 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 04:35 PM
(telephone rings)
Operator Answers: Calhoun County 911 what's your emergency?
Caller: Yes, I witnessed a man physically assault a child.
Operator: Do you know the man?
Caller: Yes, the man is Sheriff Larry Amerson.
Operator disconnects the call.
Calhoun County officials please step up and do what's right. Arrest the Sheriff.
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 04:44 PM
...h. Brat Air-s @ work
Why are these Captcha words looking more middle eastern?
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deepsix9 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 05:36 PM
Man, am I ever glad that none of you people will ever be on a jury in any criminal cases. Every one of you has this guy convicted and sentenced, and looking at 100 years in jail, the chair or a firing squad. I guess if any of YOU committed any act that deserved arrest, you would IMMEDIATELY confess and say you did it and tell the court to throw the book at you, without ANY investigation or anything. Am I right?
I didn't think so. I just love you people who hide behind a computer and think you are so holy, so honorable, beyond reproach, beyond wrong, beyond doing anything that would be construed wrong. I guess all of you are perfect. Man, how do I get to buy some of what ever it is you drink to make you so perfect.
Again, I am sooooooooooo glad that you would never be on a jury, because you could never pass the muster of the defense counsel questioning if you WOULD GIVE THE ACCUSED A FAIR TRIAL or that you had already tried and convicted him in the court of personal opinion.
Small note. I have heard the kid spit in Amerson's face. What would you have done if that had been you he spit into? Oh, right, you guys are never doing wrong. You'd wipe it off and tell him he is forgiven. Don't do it again. Right?
Look, get real. IF Amerson is guilty of any crime, it will come out in a REAL investigation. If he is guilty of that crime, he will be punished by whatever level of prosecution is brought against him. Thankfully, not by all the accusers here. Geeze, Thelma and Louise.
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 05:44 PM
Hmmm...
I think the point is from “outraged” and myself is quite simple
and quite scary.
Who is in charge?
I say…
No one is in charge of Anniston and Calhoun County.
Look at your city.
Look at your county.
We hear of movements in Wisconsin and Washington and Ohio…
Where is “our” movement? Where is “our” government?
Are we relegated to the ilk of Little and Spain and Palmore; ne’er-do-wells at best?
What are your thoughts citizens?
Soon fellow thespians setsail98 will launch a Facebook site to pique your thoughts. Critical? Yes, but things you should think about none the less.
Glad to hear your opine er, deep ninety 6
msmimi wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 06:59 PM
I stand behind the Sheriff. After going over these uneducated (some can't spell worth a flip, can we blame that on your parents?), I continue to support Sheriff Amerson. He should not have to do the job of the PARENT, but when he has to he does. I really find it funny how the liberals and this liberal newspaper are trying to make something bad out of something so minor. So the Sheriff had to get the 'boy's' attention, the 'boy' was not hurt. And to even entertain a lawsuit out of this MINOR incident is further proof of how sick our society is. Oh he touched, I'm gonna sue. Oh he looked at me, I'm gonna sue. Oh he did his job, I'm gonna sue. Who really wins with frivolous lawsuits. Certainly not the taxpayer. Keep doing the good work Sheriff Amerson. Get scum off the streets. Oh wait, the 'boy' is an angel, THAT is why he is in jail in the first place.
meroll wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 07:49 PM
SetSail, You are dead-on when it comes to Mr. Ayers controlling the masses with what he presents them. People in this town are focused on ALL the wrong things. Where's the outrage? It's there, believe me. It may take another election cycle to sweep out the rubbish but I can just about GUARANTEE there WILL be a regime change. Calhoun County as a whole is about to begin a grand odyssey of "Healing Thyself"...It's all about personal responsibility...Pretty soon, things are going to get bad enough that people are going to realize that the only person you can truly count on is YOU. Personal responsibility will be THRUST on us all whether we like it or not....God willing.
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 08:18 PM
As AirHead has said, I kontrol this town's thoughts ... well, we ain't China yet H. Brat
Just report the news
kmolino wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:01 PM
I can not believe our sheriff would act this way and do what he has done.People are blaming that child he did nothing wrong even if he did spit on the sheriff he should have been the bigger man but oh no he had to show the minor that he was a big bad sheriff.Why is he sheriff anyway i have been told he was arrested for domestic violence against his x-wife.I hope the family of this child brings him down to his level and puts him out of office.It is like everytime you turn your tv on it is POLICE VIOLENCE..I guess sheriff amberson felt like mmm why don't we do this to get on tv!!! THIS MAKES ME ANGRY AND MAD THAT POOR KID I HOPE WHEN THIS CHILD GETS DONE AMBERSON HAS NOTHING...
wrathofwheet wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 09:23 PM
wonder if sheriff Amerson will get away with this,while he got all his big cheifs standing behind him. in my opinion he should be locked up for child abuse.and for all you big cheifs, there's a old saying... if you lay down with dogs you will catch fleas,so start scrating cause you just as wrong as he is.
jakejacobs1 wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:06 PM
I know the sheriff and even I agree this is out of character for him to lose it like that. Now, I would not be surprised if I saw his Mini Me Matt Wade to it. But, lets face it, if you or I had done this in Walmart, the sheriff would have arrested us for child abuse, pure and simple. I doubt anything will come of it. Its one big group of good ole boys in our county gov't at the court house. They all look out for each other. I used to be in law enforcement and finally stopped even trying because if so and so got caught selling meth, his daddy was an Amerson supporter and it was 'hands off' on these people. "They are good people. Don't hassle them." Then you'd be instructed to arrest someone who wasnt a supporter. Got to where you couldnt do your job because you didnt know if they were 'supporters' or not. If you dont believe me, read all about how the Jail is understaffed, but in reality, there are secretaries and desk jockeys filling deputy and correction officer slots. Same ole same ole. Always will be.
redhotvelvet2000flower wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 10:42 PM
What Sheriff Emerson did is wrong. He assaulted a kid that was shackled, hand-cuffed, and whom is a minor. noone needs to say he was wrong or he was right. the tape speaks for itself! When he gets what he deserves, I hope he never works for Law Enforcement again. He should also be locked up for this because it is a crime. They lock people up all the time for assault...why should he be any different? He committed a crime, therefore, he should be held accountable for it. People whom have viewed that tape should ask themselves "What if that was my kid"? Sheriff Emerson's actions were barbaric and uncalled for. he shouldn't be over a county at all! People need to understand that God sits high, we sit low. I hope he gets what he deserves! and the ones saying they know him and he would never do this or that....they are just as worse. how well do you really know someone? you really don't. and his actions just verify that he's been doing that all along behind closed doors. He should be put out of office and forced to work at McDonalds!!! If that was my kid, he would never work in law enforcement again! he ought to be ashamed of himself. He's been caught.....now he must pay for his actions like everyone else has to.
AVietnamVet2 wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 12:35 AM
Does anyone think he (Sheriff Amerson) should be put on leave without pay pending further investigation? I think he should just man up. Admit that he was wrong and that he violated the law and our or any american's rights and this kids rights. Take his lumps like you or I would have to do. He should do the right thing and step down and leave law enforcement altogether. Do you think for one minute this will cross his mind.(NOT) For this reason it's going to make a black mark grow larger on the Law enforcement in Calhoun County. Kind of look's shabby doesn't it? Can they pull the wool over everyone's eyes and cover this up? Not my eyes.
yes_i_said_it wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 01:50 AM
For anyone to think that in any way Amerson was in the right should be spit on too. I'm sorry, and i'm not condoning wrong-doing but wrong is wrong. The boy was already in cuffs. Defenseless. As far as we know, Amerson could've been calling that boy's mother a B**.. Or disrespecting him. Just because he's a minor DOES NOT make him non-human.
...And people say blame the parents for the boy being in trouble (please).. If your child or grandchild has never been in trouble with the law,consider yourself blessed. Some preacher's kids be strung out on drugs. Regardless of how you raise your kids, after they reach a certain age they make their own decisions and become responsible for their OWN actions. I consider myself one of the blessed ones because my children came up in a single parent household and they actually listened to me and finished school and went on to further their education. Not all kids listen to their parents so you can't always blame the parents.
I would be IN JAIL if this was me choking out MY OWN bleepin" kid. Even if it's what I consider dicipline the law says it's child abuse. Why is it o.k for a stranger to do it? UR doggone right! I'd sue the heck out of his crooked butt because we all know that he will not be treated like the average citizen commiting a crime against a minor. He's the Sheriff so he has the right to just go around choking other people children.
I am so glad this wasn't one of my children because I would be having a real "stupid attack" and my stupid behind would be in jail...right now
bama57 wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 01:23 PM
Looks like all the bleeding hearts for the criminals are out in force on this blog. You keep calling this guy a CHILD. He is a juvenile, under the age of 18. He is not a child. 15, 16, and 17 year old juveniles have committed some of the worst crimes in the nation. He looks like he is 6ft.tall or more. He is not a "child" like most people think of 7, 8, or 9 year olds.
Some of you say the sheriff was choking the guy but everything I have read said he was pushing his head back, his hand on his chin. Looking at the video and pictures, you cannot tell but I guess some of you want to see what is not there. Some of you say the sheriff was beating up the guy. To beat someone up, you have to hit them with your fist or some object. The sheriff never hit him, only pulled his head around to make him look at him and probably make him listen. Some of you are saying the sheriff assaulted him. According to Alabama criminal code, for someone to be assaulted, they must have physical injuries and looking at the video, I don't believe he was injured in any way. One of you said the "child" did nothing wrong, even if he did spit on the sheriff. Really? Is that the way you raised your children, that it was ok to spit on people in authority, or anyone else for that matter? With that attitude, no wonder the state juvenile facilitys and state prisons are full of people who think the world owes them.
Some of you asked, "What if that was your kid?" If that was my kid or grandkid, and he was out of control, which he must have been or he wouldn't be there, I would say, thanks sheriff, maybe you can get his life turned around because I can't. Thanks for caring enough about my kid, to keep him out of prison, which is where he is heading if he doesn't change. Believe me, I know first hand. It is hell on earth. He will quickly become someone's "wife" and he will wish the sheriff had jerked his head a few more times. I'm sure what the sheriff did, he did to get the guys attention. He did not physically hurt him and maybe he will listen and straighten up to become a good citizen.
Guest3406191kn wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 10:59 AM
All of the Deputy's and Sheriff's "buddies" say this is not "his character".
They all admitted they did not see the film and do not need to see the film, the Sheriff is innocent.
Since when is anyone innocent or guilty without due process? Why is the Sheriff being considered "Innocent" by people that have not even witnessed the film?
What that tells me is the county jail system is corrupt- VERY CORRUPT.
When the Sheriff (an as far as we know Deputies) are all innocent, no matter what the EVIDENCE shows, they are also considered innocent even though NO evidence has been viewed (as stated, we do not need to see it, he is innocent).
In fact, what this means and what the jail workers are saying is- "No matter what the Sheriff does, how he mistreats and tortures children (imagine what happens to people actually in jail, this child was not even an inmate), it is OK, we do not need to see evidence and if they did, it would not matter, he (Sheriff) would still be innocent, no amount of evidence will make a difference because for one, they will not even look at it.
What this tells me is- this is the "good 'ole boy system" that covers up, hides and can do no wrong and even with a taped video, it does not matter to them, he is still innocent.
Can you tell me what is wrong with this, when whatever the Sheriff does it is OK, evidence is not looked at or even taken into consideration..., now, if that was a "regular citizen", what would have happened to him.
"Out of character" means "Out of control" and if a grown man, an elected official, the Sheriff (who by the way is "supposed" to uphold the law, bot beat chained and shackled children) has the mind set that it is OK to "break the law", abuse children, it sure makes me wonder what goes on when a camera is not running.
If you will do that on video, what are you capable of when the camera is not running.
Seems like a VERY dangerous person to me.
How many have mysteriously DIED in jail recently?
Something is not right in the Calhoun County Jail when people are beaten and dying, going to jail and leaving in a casket or under the care of a doctor..., or did the child even get to see a doctor? Human bodies are very fragile and you can "beat" someone and never leave a mark, it is a scarey time to be in the county jail.
What if the tables were turned around and the Sheriff was chained and beaten?..., then "that" would have been a crime, but since it was the sheriff doing the beating, it was OK and life goes on, Jail workers and staff say the Sheriff is innocent (can you imagine if there was no video), he will not discuss it because he said it is a juvenile case.
I believe the sheriff is above 21yrs of age and HE is the one that committed THIS CRIME
rewood1949 wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 01:32 PM
Call off the "Dawgs", the case is closed! No need to gather evidence since it seems that some people's definition of due process doesn't include the accused's "presumption of innocence". No need to bother the Alabama Attorney General's Office or F.B.I., the Sheriff is guilty and anyone who thinks differently is "ignorant", "corrupt", "uneducated", or any of the other derogatory adjectives used to belittle those who disagree with them. It sounds to me like they don't want to know the facts. Are they afraid they won't match their own? Here are some "FACTS" from the "presumption of guilt" crowd: The Sheriff mistreats and tortures children. Inmates at the Calhoun County Jail are beaten and dying. The Sheriff beats chained and shackled children. The Sheriff was choking the kid out. The Sheriff's been doing that (abusing inmates) all along. The Sheriff got arrested for DV by his ex-wife. The Sheriff violated civil and criminal law and is hiding behind juvenile law till everything blows over. The Sheriff broke the law, he assaulted and abused a minor.
"As Joe Friday would say, "Not the facts, ma'am, not the facts."
In a criminal court of law the prosecutors have a "burden of proof". They must prove their case "Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. Does the court of public opinion have such a standard?
1SGRock wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 10:56 AM
To MSMIMI,
Were you born in the afterlife or should I say get out from behind that darn rock! You are right when it comes to a few things, but how would it feel if this were your kid someone else called "a scumbag". Where I come from, it takes one to call another the same. You either do not have any children or you have been sharing sheets with Fat Larry. If you can't see the dirt behind his ears, then you better wash your own arse. This so-called child, boy, kid, or whatever is not the real issue at hand. The real story is that "Larry, (the real boy in this story) got caught doing something wrong and he can't wiggle his arse out of it this time. We can only hope and pray that all of the real dirty things he has done will come to light. May the good lord provide us with a real honest man to once again wear the badge that has been so tainted by this punk whom calls himself "Sheriff" of Calhoun County.
tiredofabuse wrote on Monday, Apr 11 at 09:22 AM
I am sure this is not the first incident where Amerson showed his so called authority by using force on someone. The only difference is he got caught this time. The only thing is: will someone else b any better? SAD but TRUE! Our judicial system and police department is a joke!
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FBI confirms preliminary investigation of Amerson (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12599661/article-FBI-confirms-preliminary-investigation-of-Amerson?)
by Cameron Steele · Star Staff Writer
Apr 01, 2011
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The FBI is probing potential civil rights violations related to a video that shows Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson using manual force against a juvenile male.
The FBI has launched a preliminary investigation to "gather facts" about whether Amerson's actions, which were recorded by a surveillance camera, were a violation of the boy's civil rights, an FBI spokesman told The Star Friday.
The spokesman, Paul Daymond, said the FBI cannot disclose when the investigation began or what sparked it.
"In general, what triggers a civil rights investigation, that could be a newspaper article, that could be a victim coming forward, it could be a number of things," Daymond said.
The video was first published by The Anniston Star after a source requesting anonymity gave it to the newspaper Wednesday. It shows the sheriff using physical force against a juvenile who is handcuffed and shackled in a room at the Calhoun County Jail.
Bryan Fair, a constitutional law and civil rights professor at the University of Alabama's School of Law, called Amerson's actions "shocking" and "inexplicable."
"I certainly hope that this is being investigated fully as a constitutional violation and a civil rights violation," Fair said Friday after watching the video.
"It has to be a violation of due process for a law enforcement worker to engage in this type of behavior. Yes, it needs to be investigated."
In the two-and-a-half-minute silent video, Amerson grabs the boy, who is seated on a bench next to him, handcuffed, shackled and dressed in an orange-striped jumpsuit. Amerson forces the boy's head back toward the wall by pushing on the boy's chin; the sheriff then holds the boy in that position for several seconds.
Then, after a moment of what appears to be further conversation between the sheriff and the boy, Amerson uses both arms, one at the boy's shirt collar, to pull him backward toward the wall again.
During an interview with The Star Wednesday, Amerson acknowledged the video showed a portion of what he described as "a talk" between himself and the boy. But Amerson stressed he couldn't comment about any other aspect of that interaction because it would be unlawful to discuss a matter that might become a juvenile case.
Although attempts to reach Amerson Friday were unsuccessful, Amerson's defense of his actions has been that the video clip only shows a piece of what he called "a talk" with the boy.
Calhoun County Sgt. Jon Garlick said that he was there the day the talk took place and noted the boy had been acting out. Sheriff's Office officials said they couldn't elaborate on what exactly the boy was doing, because they said they couldn't comment publicly on a situation that may be a criminal juvenile case.
Amerson also wouldn't comment specifically on the boy's status during the interview or why the boy was dressed in an orange-striped inmate jumpsuit, wearing shackles and handcuffs. But Amerson did say the county jail doesn't house juvenile inmates. If a boy is seen at the jail dressed in an inmate jumpsuit, he is there as part of a "scared straight" program, in which parents can send children who commit minor crimes or skip school to the jail to perform community service tasks.
Tallapoosa County District Attorney Paul Jones has noted, in general, there might be times when it's permissible and even necessary for a law enforcement officer to use physical force on a restrained person.
But Fair, the constitutional law professor at UA's law school, said it doesn't matter if the boy's interview with the sheriff was the result of the boy's bad behavior while participating in the program or if the boy had committed a crime in the moments leading up to the scene caught on camera.
"You have a completely helpless child in this clip, it doesn't matter what happened before. That doesn't authorize the police to engage in that kind of behavior," Fair said. "There are actions, like if he reached for an officer's gun, that would justify restraining him, but nothing justifies what the video seems to show the sheriff doing."
Not even if the boy had just committed a murder, Fair said.
"No matter how far you want to take the "even-ifs", it doesn't matter what the kid did before ... there is no reason for that kind of behavior," Fair said.
Fair and LaJuana Davis, a criminal law and procedure expert at Samford University's Cumberland School of Law, noted the boy has a list of options if he wishes to take legal action against Amerson.
But those options are somewhat limited because of Amerson's role as Calhoun County sheriff, the experts said.
That's because the Alabama Constitution and the 11th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution define a claim against the sheriff as a claim against the state and bar that kind of action unless the state consents to be sued, Davis said in a statement emailed Wednesday.
But Davis said the boy could probably successfully sue Amerson in civil court in at least two other ways: He could file a state tort action against the sheriff for assault or he could sue Amerson as an individual rather than an as an official.
A state tort action suit is won when a law enforcement official knowingly violates a person's constitutional rights "in a way not authorized by his position," Davis said.
Suing the sheriff as an individual is permissible by federal law, under what's called a "section 1983 lawsuit," meaning that the boy could seek civil monetary damages from the sheriff as a way "to prevent law enforcement officers from using the badge to violate people's rights," Davis said.
"The court looks at whether the officer's conduct is objectively reasonable in light of the facts confronting the officer," she said. "In this video, the sheriff's conduct qualifies as excessive force. The person could also say that this is a violation of his Fourteenth Amendment due process rights, because the sheriff used physical coercion."
Both experts noted that other types of civil suits, like civil racketeering charges for repeated misconduct, and most types of criminal charges filed by the juvenile himself are hard to prove or win.
But the state or U.S. attorney general's offices could decide to press criminal charges of police misconduct or brutality if they choose, Fair and Davis said. Those kinds of criminal charges are contingent upon what the state and federal investigating agencies determine about the case.
While the FBI confirmed an investigation Friday, attempts to reach a spokesperson with the Alabama Bureau of Investigation — the state agency that investigates allegations that law enforcement officers have behaved inappropriately — were unsuccessful.
ABI spokeswoman Robyn Litchfield said Thursday the agency wasn't investigating Amerson.
Daymond, the FBI spokesman, said that, in general, a preliminary investigation means that federal agents are collecting "basic" information about a case.
"Our job is not to do anything other than to gather facts," he said. "We present those facts to the U.S. Attorney's Office, and they are the ones that make the determination to move forward."
Star staff writer Cameron Steele: 256-235-3562.
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Imnotbflat wrote on Friday, Apr 01 at 11:31 PM
Couldn't discuss it because he's a juvy..Where's his attorney?..was he present for the talk?
setsail98 wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 12:51 AM
Sounds like a case for Gene Rutledge...
ImpartialTruth wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 02:14 AM
That's right, let's teach children that they can sue law enforcement officials when the full facts haven't even been disclosed. Let's teach children that it is ok to use a newspaper to smear a trusted law enforcement officer who, at present, legally cannot disclose what really happened and the context of that two-minute video clip. If you feel entitled to rights just because you are breathing, and you don't feel obligated to contribute to a free society and follow the rules of a free society, you don't understand the concept of freedom. A person who has broken the law and is handcuffed to a chair has rights, sure. But the fact is, the Star does not know the whole story, and as far as I'm concerned, that means they need to leave personal opinions out of it until the entire story is known. Stick to the facts and stop trying to fulfill an agenda.
PoliticalGarbage wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 07:00 AM
ImpartialTruth....you and a lot of others who have posted comments on this article are missing the point; the claims of "being taken out of context",or "the full facts haven't been disclosed",etc. are meaningless. In what we have seen,the victims rights were violated,pure and simple. It doesn't matter what he did in the rest of the video.Nothing it could show would exonerate the sheriff from violating his civil rights in that clip.The law was broken,and now the investigation is underway.
I am not trying to take sides in this matter. I am only pointing out peoples opinions are irrelevant. The law covers this violation in several areas,and soon we will know what if any charges the sheriff will face for his violation. I'm guessing he will be removed from office,but will probably resign before it comes to that. He will also probably face some form of civil litigation,but again this is just me guessing.
Just remember that everyone is afforded the same rights under the law. How despicable someone is has no bearing on lessening their rights. Some of your words,and others who have posted suggest otherwise. Though I certainly sympathize with the victims,allowing law enforcement officers to selectively administer corporal punishment and revoke basic human rights,and the rule of law, is a recipe for disaster. As for the kids reference you made, lets teach them to follow the law, and show them that no one is above it.
Phaeton wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 08:24 AM
This video has been placed on UTube. Now the world knows what is happening in Calhoun County..
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deepsix9 wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 08:41 AM
The thug spit on the sheriff. Amerson put his hand over the kid's mouth. Rumors out of the jail said the kid had spit on people before. The Star knew this, but does not print it. The Star also knows more about this case, but has not said anything because it is positive to the case. How do I know, it is because I know someone who is in the jail and knows what was going on. They cannot talk because the DA has said it is a violation of the law to speak about the juvie kid, show his image, or his name. Yet the Star does, in violation of the law, yet hides behind the 1st Amd. The kid is a criminal. His mother gave him to the jail because she could not handle him. Get real, he is not a VICTIM here. He is in this because of HIS MIS-CONDUCT!!!!!!!!! You law enforcement haters always hate until YOU are the victim and need them, then they are your friends.
Jimmy_Jo_Johnson wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 09:14 AM
I was a troubled young person at one time and my Mother sent me to Amerson for a straightening out. It was good for me. I was not beat and neither was this kid. I am now a grown man who is thankful for the stern manner which Amerson used with me. I could have used more of the same. Spare the rod, spoil the child, watch this country crumble.
Band76 wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 10:33 AM
Hopefully this jerk will have to hire an attorney at his own exspense to defend himself in court...any nut that watched this can see the kid is handcuffed behind his back. It takes a coward to do any such thing. The lies and excuses the great sheriff has made makes him look more like the nut he is.
kellykee wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 11:14 AM
I dont have a crystal ball, nor can I read the future but I can already see it now. First you will have Glenn Ray,and or Ben Little gathering their groups and they will have the "march", that they normally do, screaming about racism and somebody being prejudice. They love to call others unjust, or racist, but will have a fit if somebody points out anything that they have done. They are opportunist, and really dont care anything about the boy in the tape. They will use this "incident" to try and justify what they call "injustices" of the sheriff and deputies. If they cared about this child at all they would try and find this child and get him some help before someone on the streets takes him out. People wont care if he is a kid or not. If you try to spit, kick and punch someone they are gonna deal with his attitude and it wont be with a smile and friendly conversation. Thats the problem with the world now, they dont know how to deal with bad kids, or dont want to deal with them, but they love to scrutinize how others deal with them. Lord help you if you raise your voice, or actually get stern and put a hand on them. This boy wasn't hurt at all, and there was no choking going on, his shirt and face was grabbed. It doesnt matter if this kid was black, asian, or any other color, the Sheriff was right to deal with his nasty disruptive and combative behavior. People say "Oh race doesnt matter", but the first thing they will say is "He did this because the boy was black". Anybody who knows the sheriff, knows that it doesnt matter if the person is white or black, the same thing would apply to both. People love to see others acting a jack*ss and then when law enforcement arrives, start filming and declaring "omg the cops are wrong for getting in their butts", and lord help it if the person is black. Next thing you know the NAACP is called. Thats why people are tired of these groups cause they march for the stupidest crap lately. They have gotten away from what they originally stood for, and will march for anything now. I wonder if they will come down and march for the victims after this boy is arrested and in jail for robbing or hurting someone, because thats whats going to happen. This kid aint no angel, I know that first hand, and anyone saying he is, is telling a lie. What society is about to teach him is that it is o.k to be disrespectful, combative and disruptive and nobody should do anything about that, maybe just talk to you, and ask "how are you feeling today?", send you to juvenile where you sit and watch t.v and learn to become more combative and disrespectful. Lets teach them its o.k. to spit on people, and if you do it and the person chastises you, you might be able to sue, just like we have taught criminals that if the break into someones house and they shoot you, you can sue. We walk around and wonder why the kids have become so disrespectful, and nasty, and will shoot a person without so much as a thought. Its our fault. Walk through Wal-Mart and see how many kids you see disrespecting their parents, or some adult. The other day I saw a teenager tell her mom "you are just stupid", and started calling her names. The mothers reply was "whats wrong?", while she stood there looking like an idiot. I predict in the next 20 years the kids will really be out of control, and no one will be able to say or do anything to them. Maybe send them to juvie where they will learn more disturbing behavior. Lord Help Us!
Youarewastingyourfreedom wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 12:46 PM
As I said before, I wonder how many of you would be defending Ben Little if he did the same "favor" to the community by beating the "criminal mentality" out of a white kid.
Keep on living in fear of your own freedom. It's seems to have done all of you so much good already! If you'll justify a grown man beating on a juvenile for YOUR own "protection", then you really don't deserve to be protected.
licketysplit wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 02:43 PM
Here's the thing, forget about race. Forget about this being a black teenager. Speaking from experience as a former corrections officer, you DO NOT DO WHAT THE SHERIFF DID. PERIOD. If someone is shackled and handcuffed, you do not put the smack down on the subject. Plain and simple.
In corrections school we were taught this. We were also taught that if we get spat on or if someone throws body waste at us, it's all part of the job.
Some people say the teen spit at the Sheriff. If that was true then L.A. has some super slow reaction time because this young man's back was turned to L.A.
Now in all honesty, has my career been spotless? No.
No corrections officer has followed ALL the rules, laws and policies and procedures to the letter.
Neither has the Sheriff.
It just appears that this time, he was caught. This tape was from a camera installed inside the jail near the booking area. One of his employees obviously copied this and passed it on to bust the Sheriff.
All these cameras were put in place to catch corrections officers doing things that THEY were not supposed to be doing. Apparently this came back to bite him. Karma and whatnot.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 04:39 PM
PoliticalGarbage-I have to say that your words are indeed correct, and I do not disagree with your stance on human rights, but the difference is that I'm not writing slanted news stories about a matter which I am not fully apprised. I am not a law enforcement officer, or a criminal for that matter, so I do not know what law enforcement officers typically do when dealing one-on-one with a criminal. I'd like to think that these actions by the sheriff were warranted, but the fact is, no one knows at this point, so until I learn otherwise, that's what I'm going to think.
And yes, I know that basic human rights are afforded to even the scumbags of the world, but the spin on these articles is inappropriate. You act as if the sheriff was never a reasonable man. The criminal on the other hand, clearly acted unreasonably otherwise he would not be shackled to a chair. Why is the reasonable man now on the same level as the criminal? I have a hard time understanding that. Yes, I agree that the video shows inappropriate actions by the sheriff, but you have painted him to be a monster and you have disregarded his character and track record. I simply think that the reporting of this situation has been unfair.
licketysplit wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 05:18 PM
ImpartialTruth: you say you would like to think that the actions by the Sheriff were warranted. This "criminal" was not an inmate. He was a teen going through the Sheriff's Scared Straight effort that many troubled youth have gone through before him. I've just never known any that has gone through this directly with Sheriff Amerson.
503.090 Use of physical force in law enforcement.
(1) The use of physical force by a defendant upon another person is justifiable when the defendant, acting under official authority, is making or assisting in making an arrest, and he:
(a) Believes that such force is necessary to effect the arrest;
(b) Makes known the purpose of the arrest or believes that it is otherwise known or cannot reasonably be made known to the person to be arrested; and
(c) Believes the arrest to be lawful.
(2) The use of deadly physical force by a defendant upon another person is justifiable under subsection (1) only when:
(a) The defendant, in effecting the arrest, is authorized to act as a peace officer; and
(b) The arrest is for a felony involving the use or threatened use of physical force likely to cause death or serious physical injury; and
(c) The defendant believes that the person to be arrested is likely to endanger human life unless apprehended without delay.
(3) The use of physical force, including deadly physical force, by a defendant upon another person is justifiable when the defendant is preventing the escape of an arrested person and when the force could justifiably have been used to effect the arrest under which the person is in custody, except that a guard or other person authorized to act as a peace officer is justified in using any force, including deadly force, which he believes to be necessary to prevent the escape of a person from jail, prison, or other institution for the detention of persons charged with or convicted of a crime.
Effective: January 1, 1975
licketysplit wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 05:19 PM
For anyone interested in the Alabama Criminal Code regarding use of physical force:
Section 13A-3-27 - Use of force in making an arrest or preventing an escape.
(a) A peace officer is justified in using that degree of physical force which he reasonably believes to be necessary, upon a person in order:
(1) To make an arrest for a misdemeanor, violation or violation of a criminal ordinance, or to prevent the escape from custody of a person arrested for a misdemeanor, violation or violation of a criminal ordinance, unless the peace officer knows that the arrest is unauthorized; or
(2) To defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of physical force while making or attempting to make an arrest for a misdemeanor, violation or violation of a criminal ordinance, or while preventing or attempting to prevent an escape from custody of a person who has been legally arrested for a misdemeanor, violation or violation of a criminal ordinance.
(b) A peace officer is justified in using deadly physical force upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary in order:
(1) To make an arrest for a felony or to prevent the escape from custody of a person arrested for a felony, unless the officer knows that the arrest is unauthorized; or
(2) To defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of deadly physical force.
(c) Nothing in subdivision (a)(1), or (b)(1), or (f)(2) constitutes justification for reckless or criminally negligent conduct by a peace officer amounting to an offense against or with respect to persons being arrested or to innocent persons whom he is not seeking to arrest or retain in custody.
(d) A peace officer who is effecting an arrest pursuant to a warrant is justified in using the physical force prescribed in subsections (a) and (b) unless the warrant is invalid and is known by the officer to be invalid.
(e) Except as provided in subsection (f), a person who has been directed by a peace officer to assist him to effect an arrest or to prevent an escape from custody is justified in using physical force when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that force to be necessary to carry out the peace officer's direction.
(f) A person who has been directed to assist a peace officer under circumstances specified in subsection (e) may use deadly physical force to effect an arrest or to prevent an escape only when:
(1) He reasonably believes that force to be necessary to defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of deadly physical force; or
(2) He is authorized by the peace officer to use deadly physical force and does not know that the peace officer himself is not authorized to use deadly physical force under the circumstances.
(g) A private person acting on his own account is justified in using physical force upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to effect an arrest or to prevent the escape from custody of an arrested person whom he reasonably believes has committed a felony and who in fact has committed that felony, but he is justified in using deadly physical force for the purpose only when he reasonably believes it necessary to defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of deadly physical force.
(h) A guard or peace officer employed in a detention facility is justified:
(1) In using deadly physical force when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent what he reasonably believes to be the escape of a prisoner accused or convicted of a felony from any detention facility, or from armed escort or guard;
(2) In using physical force, but not deadly physical force, in all other circumstances when and to extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent what he reasonably believes to be the escape of a prisoner from a detention facility.
(3) "Detention facility" means any place used for the confinement, pursuant to law, of a person:
a. Charged with or convicted of an offense; or
b. Charged with being or adjudicated a youthful offender, a neglected minor or juvenile delinquent; or
c. Held for extradition; or
d. Otherwise confined pursuant to an order of a criminal court.
(Acts 1977, No. 607, p. 812, §630; Acts 1979, No. 79-599, p. 1060, §1.)
ImpartialTruth wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 07:26 PM
Thanks for posting the Alabama Criminal Code, licketysplit. Since the boy was in the Scared Straight program, are details about this program available to the public? I guess my question is, has it been ascertained whether or not the Scared Straight program (which is a horrible name, by the way) utilizes simulations that permit the use of force by law enforcement officials? If the program is anything like its name, it is easy to assume that scaring the kid and giving him a taste of prison life is the object of the program.
coonhunter911 wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 09:12 PM
Attention FBI
Forget it don't waste your time.
Anyone with common sense will consider a hypothetical p.o.v.
First of all I ain't sucking up for a job but dam Anderson I can read between the lines on this one.
1. The door was left cracked so you did a great job CYA'in.
2. With so many sorry asss parents wanting you and law enforcement to do their job for you. I can see why you would do this (now you sure mom and dad?)
3. In all seriousness folks Anderson can't and ain't gonna be able to protect your kid in jail. So b/c you won't do your job he is being forced to try to scare straight your kid and keep from having the child seriously injured by hardened criminals. This also puts the whole facility at greater risk of "upheaval" or "riot" b/c the officers have to babysit your spoiled rotten brats.
4. Finally, Anderson if I could retire like you and possibly save the future Sheriff a real liability lawsuit b/c of a dead kid b/c a real criminal got ahold of him. I too would do a simple assault on a minor and have it posted in the paper. Who knows maybe you will save the dept a lawsuit, the community a dead kid, and a parent the greif of knowing they failed b/c they didn't want to whoop their childs asss so they had to have someone else do it.
For what its worth its been entertaining though...
Mr. Ayers am I gonna be banned again for bad language? Just curious...
only1
Finally, (b/c I can't help it) Anderson would have used a white kid but I am sure it was impossible to find one not drugged up on ADHD meds....
kmolino wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 09:35 PM
I just can not believe the people taking sides with the sheriff that did what he did..what if it was your child?? Well if it was mine kid i would have a NAACP down here so quick it would not be funny..This was a miner kid shackled and cuffed his head was turned away from the sheriff so how did he spit on him??? (watch the video).maybe the one's taking up for him treat there kids the same way and think it is ok..it would be best for the sheriff to resign i think cause he is on tape no lies and no excuses!!! I hope to see this kid with a lawyer and everyone else it takes to get him what he deserves i am 100 percent behind this child and the family..And there is some gonna kiss his butt to try and keep there jobs they are just as guilty as he is..COME ON NAACP BRING IT TO ANNISTON!!!!
coonhunter911 wrote on Saturday, Apr 02 at 11:38 PM
HonestGov,
I got a bussiness proposistion for you. How does
"WhoopDatArse Inc" sound? Parents can for a flat fee of $1200.00 per year call on our company and we will immediantly be dispatched to their home or school with a belt paddle switch (the parents choice) and a video camera (for liability reasons) and immediantly administer discipline.
Instead of suing our law enforcement agencies for not doing the job of the parents how come our government can't sue the parents for not being able to control their child? If your dog bites someone you get sued but if you kid bites the sheriff you get to sue the sheriff?
Come on folks start holding the parents accountable for not discplining. Maybe instead of background checks for firearms permits we need to have background checks for child rearing.
If the kid acts up in school fine the parent. I bet a couple of $$$ later mom and dad will find a way to "cure" lil johnny. Start urine testing parents if lil johnny starts costing mommy and daddy their "drug" money for the week they will find a way to get lil johnny in line.
Take my advice folks b/c I ain't using it and don't never say you never got nothing for free in life.
only1
cvaldez wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 01:13 AM
Amerson,well the Lord is there and the truth shall be revealed. Wade you are next. The Lord is God. Let the truth be known.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 01:20 AM
I was curious, so I did some research...apparently Scared Straight programs are not favored by the federal government. Research shows that these programs are ineffective (see links). But does that necessarily mean the sheriff broke the law? I still think it is unclear, given the context of this Scared Straight program and given the fact that the sheriff's office is unable to comment on the incident. It could be that the parents signed a waiver that allowed law enforcement to use scare tactics on their child or something like that. Who knows.
http://news.change.org/stories/feds-spe ... d-straight (http://news.change.org/stories/feds-speak-out-against-aampes-beyond-scared-straight)
http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/juvenile/c ... raight.pdf (http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/juvenile/compliance/scaredStraight.pdf)[/list]
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Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12599661/article-FBI-confirms-preliminary-investigation-of-Amerson?) left for the above article, "FBI confirms preliminary investigation of Amerson (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=400204#p400204)" (by Cameron Steele; Apr 01, 2011; The Anniston Star), #s 21-24:
honestgovernment wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 07:26 AM
coon hunter, I like your proposition. I applaud the parents who actually care enough about their kids to discipline them and when that fails seek other ways to get their attention. Our degenerate poplulation thinks that nobody should have to have personal responsibility. Speaking from experience and long before the scared straight program was even thought of, a caring parent through a local police offical introduced me to the realities of jail and I am pretty sure that indelible mental picture helpe encourage me to take the right road in life instead of the left........ghee never thought about it before but right road / conservative and left road / liberal / criminal........it makes sense now. WOW!
RTR1978 wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 04:42 PM
I am so sick of this racist CRAP on both sides of EVERYTHING lately!!!! If it was my kid (which it NEVER will be because I teach my kids respect and when they do wrong I PUNISH THEM. That's right I spank my children.... call DHR)then if this is what it takes to keep him out of gangs and off the streets to save him from a drive by or getting stabbed, then by all means have at it Sheriff! That's whats wrong with our kids today. All you parents showing up on friday night in the ER with broken arms and black eyes because you 15 year old who you have given into and NEVER punished decided it was time to take the car and wasn't gonna let you stand in the way!!!! This kid is going to be painted as a victim but I can promise you that IF he was a good, decent kid he would not be there and will end up dead before the age of 25! Let's go back to the days where it was OK for Mom's and Dad's to actually be parents. When we can actually raise these kids the right way then we won't have all the 14 year old HOODLUM'S running around thinking their grown with 1 kids and one on the way (2 different teenage momma's) and no way to take care of them. COME ON PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES AND START BEING PARENTS!!!!!
BlueHorse2 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:19 AM
I will be glad to speak to the FBI regarding Sheriff Amerson, because I have been one of his victims and victims of some of his deputies, they are a disgrace to the law enforcement and have always been in this county. Worked in the legal field in this county for many years and I know more than I'd like to know, BUT HE MUST BE STOPPED, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE EVEN AFRAID TO RUN AGAINST HIM FOR SHERIFF BECAUSE IF THEY DO, THERE WILL BE REPRECUSSIONS PUT ON THEM, JUST LIKE WHEN MAYFIELD RAN AGAINST HIM.....AMERSON GETS RE-ELECTED BY BEING BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY LAWYERS AND JUDGES....I KNOW BECAUSE OF WHOM I'VE WORKED FOR.....VERY CONCERNED CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTY AND NOT AFRAID TO USE MY NAME
Kimela Perkey formerly Alvarez
wille wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 02:13 PM
There's no crime here. Bashing the police with frivolous information seems to be a favorite passtime for the press. Denial is the right of the parent not the police.
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Here are two versions (thus far) from YouTube; same clip, slightly differing quality:
- Pedo Cop? - Caught On Tape Roughing Up Teen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VjzRcaFXDk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VjzRcaFXDk)
- Alabama Sheriff Caught on Tape: Possible Civil Rights Abuse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6B1WdZu6jU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6B1WdZu6jU)
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The Anniston Star explains their decision to post the video clip:
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The Star's journalists spent long hours last week wrestling over how to report on a video of Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson physically confronting a male wearing prison garb who was restrained at the hands and feet.
Cameron Steele, the newspaper's public safety reporter, obtained the video from a tipster requesting anonymity, something the newspaper granted.
The tipster suggested and the sheriff confirmed that the handcuffed male was a minor. Under the headline, "Video shows sheriff using manual force, but sheriff says it's not the whole story," The Star published an article Thursday regarding the video. On its website, the newspaper posted the video while The Star's Page 1 included still images captured from the video.
Because the male in the video was a minor who might be involved in the juvenile justice system, the newspaper considered various outcomes of publication.
U.S. juvenile justice has its roots in the Progressive Era, the period from the late 19th century to early 20th century. Adopting the British legal concept of "parens patriae," meaning the state as parent, the first U.S. juvenile court was created in Chicago in 1899. It favored rehabilitation for children who ran afoul of the law instead of the punishment model for adult criminals.
One of its hallmarks is the protection of the identities of children in the system. Late 1800s reformers saw value in establishing a legal mechanism where a child might be persuaded to turn from his ways and reach adulthood as a law-abiding citizen.
Alabama legal code, like the laws in most states, calls for the proceedings of juvenile justice to be kept from the public. The last thing an adult put on the straight and narrow needs is the long tail of a criminal record dating to a time when he was young and foolish.
Owing to the nature of juvenile non-disclosure laws, we cannot confirm if the young man in the video is in the juvenile justice system, though given the circumstance, we had a reasonable belief he might be.
On the matter of law, our legal counsel assured us, "Publishing truthful information about a minor is not a problem for a newspaper."
Then there’s the ethical question. Under the section labeled "Minimize Harm," the Society of Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics urges journalists to be "cautious" about identifying juveniles.
On Thursday, I e-mailed several journalism ethics educators to seek their take on these questions. Dr. Robert M. Steele, a distinguished professor of journalism ethics at DePauw University, responded. (He is not related to Star reporter Cameron Steele.)
Dr. Steele said there are legitimate reasons to identify a juvenile. However, he added, "Such an exception still requires an attempt to minimize the impact on a juvenile." He wondered, did the newspaper "take steps to conceal [the minor's] identity?"
The short answer is yes. No less than a dozen newsroom staffers reviewed the video as we prepared to publish Thursday's newspaper. The video, taken from a security camera at a distance from Amerson and the minor, is low quality, making it difficult to recognize distinctive features of either person. It also does not have audio, meaning there are no voices to be recognized. However, in order to provide another level of anonymity, The Star digitally altered the video to further obscure the minor's face.
Dr. Steele, while withholding judgment on the story, raised other questions, including:
• "Is there any possibility that the tipster had ulterior motives in giving you the tape, motives that might skew the truth of the situation?"
That's always a possibility when a source requests anonymity. However, in our judgment, the video in question stood alone as a moment in time, regardless of its source.
• "Could you have held back on publishing the story and showing the video while you gathered more information?"
A truism in journalism is that reporters could always gather more information. However, editors and reporters believed we had enough information to publish a fair article on the matter. On Friday, the newspaper followed up with an article — "Sheriff Amerson's actions on tape out of character, colleagues say" — that, as the headline implies, included several sources who spoke on behalf of the sheriff.
• "The story makes strong accusations against the sheriff. In publishing the story, how did you decide the frame and content of the story to bring as high a level of fairness as possible to someone accused of wrongdoing?"
Thursday's article included a source — Cumberland School of Law professor LaJuana Davis — who suggested Amerson was in the wrong, based on what she saw on the video.
However, her views were balanced by Amerson's comment that, "I would not hurt a child," and those by Tallapoosa County District Attorney Paul Jones, who advised against rushing to judgment against law enforcers who use physical force on someone who is restrained.
The paper's guiding principle is neatly summarized by another section of the SPJ's ethics code. It urges journalists to "[r]ecognize a special obligation to ensure that the public's business is conducted in the open and that government records are open to inspection."
This obligation compelled The Star to publish an account of a county official captured on video doing part of the job he was elected to do.
Bob Davis is editor of The Anniston Star. Contact him at (256) 235-3540 or [email protected]. You can follow him on Twitter at: twitter.com/EditorBobDavis.
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ohlawdy wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 10:09 AM
I commend the Star and reporter Cameron Steele for reporting this story. You seem to have made a concerted effort to ensure that all involved in this story were treated fairly. The huge reaction to this story by the public, particulary the vitriolic comments to the online stories, illustrates how deeply people on both sides of this issue have been moved.
It is my belief that your paper is an invaluable assett to the region. Thanks for all you do & keep up the good work.
setsail98 wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 10:40 AM
While our country is in a crisis, monumental historical events are going on overseas, and our own state floundering somewhat reeling from the last legislature... the star wants to report on a kid getting a trouncing. Do I have that near correct?
Whilst the star expounds on what we already know anyway in this good ole boy network, it gives a breath of fresh sweet bilge air that all the players can claim "I don't know what is going on".
Shades of three monkeys...
mpartialTruth wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 10:41 AM
Mr. Davis, I understand why you felt compelled to publish the story, and I have absolutely no problem with a newspaper running stories that affect civil rights, especially civil rights of children. I do, however, think an initial explanation of the Scared Straight program would have benefited readers. Upon researching the program, I learned that it is normal for juveniles to be shackled and confronted by prisoners and law enforcement. Normally I do not have to do my own research when I read articles in the Star, but on this one, I felt like I was not getting the entire story. I feel like you could have put the video in context so that readers did not auotmatically assume the sheriff violated the law. What we saw on the video was a brief two-minute snippet with no sound. How can we conclude anything? The video, when taken out of context, has too much power to hurt a law enforcement official and should have been handled with more care. Since the sheriff's department cannot comment on the issue and give a reporter the context of the situation, I maintain my stance that the release of this article was at the very minimum, badly timed.
honestgovernment wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 03:33 PM
Bob you stepped into a big pile of squeeze here. In your hate of Amerson you have cherry picked "experts" to justify your actions. Your decisions and intentions are clear to the informed.
Lets just take one for instance, this so called lawyer now professor Lajuana Davis is well known in law enforcement communities as a peace officer hater and defendant of all criminals for whatever reason. Davis is especially reviled in Calhoun County for trying to get the SOB Pernell Ford off the hook for the killings in Jacksonville in 1983. Larry Amerson, then a deputy was also involved, and everyone who knows anything knows mrs davis would be eager to settle a score.
You might want to pick your character witnesses a little more carefully next time to get someown with some character.
Adios Clark Kent, get yourself some new glasses and maybe a new career.
Generations wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 04:10 PM
The old picture is worth a thousand words thing is in play here. On an anonymous source's word, a serious ethics driven newspaper would never have published without appropriate follow up. We are not talking about FOX News. Local paper, local official, local juvenile. This is us. Plus, the County administrator or the "judge" did not even know about a program such as this. A judge that has as her absolute authority the interests of children. Maybe. Maybe not. She is afforded the cloak Bob references. Sheriffs are powerful in Alabama. They have such autonomy. Taxpayers, through the County Commission, just give me my check. That is reality. This video had to go public. If Larry can justify, do it. If he can not, explain his humanity. If it is over the line, well, we can imagine what is next. The public not seeing this is, well, not American. Reserving judgment.
jville wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 09:31 PM
Congratulations Anniston Star!!!!
Your paper is now on the level of the cheap, trash tabloids for sale at every check out counter.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 10:26 AM
jville, I don't think that's a fair comparison. Nowhere in the story did I read about Lindsey Lohan's most recent arrest or Charlie Sheen's shenanigans. I think the story ran prematurely based on a decision to push ahead because of the shocking nature of the video. The context was disregarded to drive home a point, which, in my opinion, was an error in judgment.
It appears that the Star is attempting to report additional information about this story (that should have been published in the initial story), and I think adequate coverage of known facts have since been published. Let's let this situation unfold as it will.
mommyto3 wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 02:20 PM
I want to personally thank the Anniston Star for their fair reporting of this incident. Please continue to keep us updated on this as it progresses. Wrong is wrong...and right is right. That includes Sheriff Amerson. He is not above the law.
hillbilly7722 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 12 at 12:17 PM
• “Is there any possibility that the tipster had ulterior motives in giving you the tape, motives that might skew the truth of the situation?”
I would bet my next paycheck that the tipster had ulterior motives that would skew the truth of the situation, otherwise, we would see all the details of the situation. In law enforcement, as source is proven reliable when he/she provides information, and that information is corroborated. Only then can action be taken on the merits of that source. When evidence is gathered based on information provided by that source, the police then have to prove that information was provided by a reliable source. I would think that journalists would have to prove their sources reliable also. I do not blame the Star for releasing the story, it's a big seller for them, and that's how they run their business. On the other hand, I do not think they have given the Sheriff's Office a fair shake here either. They have definitely shown him in a negative light.
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The Anniston Star
Juvenile program that included boy on sheriff video was unknown to two county officials (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12609899/article-Juvenile-program-that-included-boy-on-sheriff-video-was-unknown-to-two-county-officials)
by Cameron Steele · Star Staff Writer
Apr 03, 2011
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Video appears to show sheriff accosting restrained teen
The minor's face has been blurred in this video to avoid revealing his identity.[/list]
Calhoun County Administrator Ken Joiner never knew about a Sheriff's Office program for youthful offenders and suspended-from-school teenagers to work in the county jail — despite the fact Joiner is responsible for managing all county properties.
Joiner is also the man who pays for liability insurance at the facility.
Calhoun County District Judge Laura Phillips is a board member of the Success Academy, a youthful offender education service that sends teens who violate Academy rules to the jail program.
Like Joiner, Phillips didn't know the jail program existed — that is, until Wednesday.
Both Joiner and Phillips learned about the program then after they read an article in The Anniston Star about a juvenile male who was at the county jail to participate in it.
The Star published a story about that boy because a source requesting anonymity provided the newspaper with a copy of a video that shows Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson using physical force on the juvenile during an interview at the jail.
The silent video shows the boy handcuffed, shackled and wearing an orange-striped inmate jumpsuit when Amerson grabs him, forces his head back by pushing on the boy's chin and holding the boy's head that way for several seconds.
During an interview with The Star Wednesday, Amerson stressed he couldn't comment about what he described as "a talk" with the boy, because it would be unlawful to discuss a matter that might become a juvenile case.
Amerson, who did not return multiple phone calls Friday, said he also could not discuss why the boy was dressed as an inmate, shackled and cuffed.
But he did talk Wednesday about how, in general, any juvenile who is at the jail and dressed as an inmate is there as part of the program that Joiner and Phillips knew nothing about.
Amerson described the program as a partnership with Family Links, Inc., a children's behavior task force for the county. He and Family Links Director Lyndsey Gillam said the program began as a way to let high-risk kids see what jail might be like. But when exactly the program started and whether there are any written rules as to how jail employees must supervise, treat and reprimand students in their care is unclear.
That's largely because attempts to reach multiple officials with Family Links and the Sheriff's Office were unsuccessful Friday.
"Communication is key to any partnership," Joiner said Friday in a conversation with The Star about how he didn't know the juvenile jail program existed. "We would hope that an elected official would always come to the County Commission, because we're the ones who are ultimately held accountable through our insurance program."
The juvenile jail program
Various officials familiar with the juvenile jail program have different ideas about how long the program has been operational.
Amerson said Wednesday he thought the program had been in effect for about a year, but Gillam said the program had only been around for several months.
Mike Fincher, public safety director for Calhoun County Schools, said Friday he thought school resource officers — employed by the sheriff, he noted — had been recommending the program to parents for the past two years.
Regardless of when it began, Amerson and Gillam agreed the program was only for the following juveniles:
Either students who had been suspended from school, or youthful offenders who had been ordered by the court to attend the Success Academy and who had acted violently or threatened violence while attending the Academy, which is a Family Links service program, Gillam said during an interview Thursday with The Star.
The juvenile jail program, said Gillam, "is kind of our last step" before youthful offenders in the Success Academy go back to juvenile court.
Friday, however, Gillam did not return multiple phone calls left at Family Links.
But staff at Family Links can't just send the students to the jail. Their parents have to agree to it and sign a waiver for the kids to be there. So, too, do the parents of kids who've been suspended from school.
Those parents drop their kids off at the jail around 8 a.m. and pick them around 3:30 p.m., Gillam said.
While there, the juveniles perform menial tasks like taking out the garbage, Amerson said.
If a student misbehaves while there, Amerson said Wednesday, he and other corrections officers have talks with them.
Gillam said in her interview with The Star Thursday that when and how to reprimand a juvenile who misbehaved at the jail was not up to her, but rather decided by the person from the jail staff or Sheriff's Office supervising them.
But what's unclear is whether written policies exist for how exactly jail staff should act when a student misbehaves and, if there are, whether Amerson's actions in the video violated standard protocol, among other things.
Gillam wouldn't comment Thursday on whether she thought Amerson acted inappropriately or used an excessive amount of force, as shown in the video clip.
"I don't know all the facts of the case; I think there's more to it than is being reported," Gillam said. "I think the sheriff is being cast in a negative light."
But Bryan Fair, a constitutional and civil rights law professor at the University of Alabama, said Friday that it didn't matter how the juvenile in the video acted in the moments before the video was shown.
He could have even committed a murder beforehand, and Amerson's actions would not have been justified, Fair said.
"No matter how far you want to take the "even-ifs", it doesn't matter what the kid did before ... there is no reason for that kind of behavior," Fair said.
The FBI confirmed Friday it was investigating Amerson's actions.
As far as Joiner is concerned, he said he should have been notified about the juvenile jail program.
"It's just courtesy to be able to understand what's going on," Joiner said.
Star staff writer Laura Johnson contributed to this story.
Star staff writer Cameron Steele: 256-235-35632.
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Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12609899/article-Juvenile-program-that-included-boy-on-sheriff-video-was-unknown-to-two-county-officials) left for the above article, "Juvenile program that included boy on sheriff video was unknown to two county officials (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=400223#p400222)" (by Cameron Steele; Apr 03, 2011; The Anniston Star), #s 1-20:
honestgovernment wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 07:20 AM
Ms Johnson, it seems that even the star admits it is illegal to post the picture of a juvenille in this video so by default the theft and distribution of the video from the SO is illegal, when will you disclose the idnividual that committed THAT crime?
Double standards, double standards,
IF Amerson did anyting wrong, I am sure the federal prosecutor will file charges but while we are correcting things the person responsible for the theft and distribution needs to be named and charged.
Do you think the person named is just trying to help the poor boy out or is out for personal gain? Well I know the answer to that one and also know why the video was leaked. Stay tuned
nonhyphenatedAmerican wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 07:30 AM
And the star with recieving stolen property.
nonhyphenatedAmerican wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 07:31 AM
lpresto wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 07:32 AM
Hmmmmm......A judge that didnt even know the program existed??? Did she even know she was on that board till all this blew up?Either way it doesnt matter.Amerson shoul be fired and arrested for what he did plain and simple and if his son is still a CO there he should be fired as well. I just hope this childs parents have a very good attorney from another county.......
Band76 wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 08:28 AM
Legal? Sure is...the tape was paid for with tax payers monies so its public. Must be teh sheriff's supporters wonder how many other times this has gone on? The sheriff should resign. Also teh county comission should cut off his funds till he comes clean. hopefullly the Feds will charge him. Wonder how he would feel if this was somebody that's suppose to uphold the law treated his child this way?
deepsix9 wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 08:56 AM
Some of you need to get the facts before you have the sheriff put up against a wall and shot. The kid was a CRIMINAL who has already had several court hearings for his misconduct. The kid's mother gave him up to the sheriff's office because she could no longer control him. The sheriff's office CANNOT BY LAW tell this kid's name, show his image to the public (WHICH THE ANNISTON RED STAR HAS BROKEN BY DOING JUST THAT WITH A STOLEN TAPE), or discuss his case. THE KID WAS A SPITTER. LET ME REPEAT THIS FOR ALL THOSE OUT THERE WHO SIMPLY REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND THIS: THE KID WAS A SPITTER!!! He did this several times, and his misconduct in the jail is why he was bound up. HE SPIT ON THE SHERIFF!!! The sheriff put his hand over the KIDS MOUTH!!! He did not choke him. I know this because I KNOW someone in the jail who has discussed this with me and I believe this person to be honest with no axes to grid. The kid is the criminal here. Not the sheriff. By the way, next time you law enforcement haters need the cops, call the Obama mafia. They will protect you. Don't call those evil cops you hate so much. You haters are a joke.
setsail98 wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 10:30 AM
So, "liability" suits are possible, the county hasn't a clue about the goings on in the county, and the legal system hasn't a clue either, Tell me, what else is new or news in this city, county and legal system???
Ya'll are so caught up in the star and this kid that you cannot even see the "bigger picture"!
angieppp wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 10:43 AM
What happened on that tape is nothing compared to what will happen when that kid grows up and is in prison . There won't be just one Man holding him down , there will be a crowd of men and they will be holding him down for other "things " than just being spit on.My opinion is that a Mother is trying to save her child and the Sheriff is trying to help this woman .Maybe this is the kids last chance to see and feel what is gonna happen if he wants to "go to jail ".The sheriff actions are like a slap on the hand compared to how the guards in prison will treat that young man , You will walk the line and you will do as your told .
Imnotbflat wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 10:47 AM
Let's make sure the Sheriff isn't breaking more laws than the kid..Juvenile maranda rights read to kid?..Attorney or parents present during this questioning?..
coonhunter911 wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 10:55 AM
Amen AngiePPP!
If we want to help "educate" and "enlighten" kids maybe we ought to have a new law:
"You don't have rights unless you can recite those rights".
I bet then kids would start paying attention in school. How many adults can't even recite our "Bill of Rights" but they want the privaledges of being a citizen covered under those bill of rights.
I think AngiePPP said it all best.
HonestGov if we start that bussiness we need to have Congressman Rodgers get with the IRS.
Charge $1200.00 per year and if you utilize the services you get a $2400.00 tax credit b/c of the $$$ you will save the judicial system by raising a well discplined child who can function in our society vs being a drain on our society.
Well dang now I feel like a hypocrit I guess I better write my Cheif and tell him Im ready to grow up now (may God be with me) vs continuing being a drain on society. I don't mind being a crminal but a hypocrit is the worst of the worst.
only1
coonhunter911 wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 11:52 AM
Someone please enlighten me
But staff at Family Links can’t just send the students to the jail.
Who or what is this "Family Links"? I tried finding them online but was unable....
Always Curious,
only1
lpresto wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 12:01 PM
so.......the kid spits on sheriff and that gives him the right to do what he did? come on man get fn real here.it is clear he intended on doing this.he sends people out of the room before it occurs.....guess he forgot that the camera was high enough that the door didnt block its view...his true colors finally came out where the public can see the evidence.he should be FIRED!
trustme wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 01:43 PM
Can't fire an elected official, stupid.
Guest3406191kn wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 02:17 PM
It was "out of character" for the Sheriff, so, it is "OK"
Is it "OK" if it is my 1st time to rob a bank? After all, it is "out of my character", it is my 1st time and no one got hurt (you can not say that about what we saw on the video)
Calhoun County Administrator Ken Joiner never knew about a Sheriff’s Office program-
(Is that legal and if it is, is it "moral"? Is it his "character" to hide things from others?
Calhoun County District Judge Laura Phillips is a board member of the Success Academy- Did not know about this in the jail.
WHY was this "hidden", again, showing the "character" which is now a "pattern" of hiding what is going on inside the jail, building, etc., he did not want others to know.
The Sheriff KNEW that he was going to "attack" the child, why else would he have asked ALL the witnesses to leave the room?
The door, if closed "just right" (partially) would have hidden the actions of the Sheriff (see the pattern of "HIDING" what is going on?
"IF" he was only going to question the boy, he would have had nothing to HIDE.
I read NOWHERE that he was spit on..., but let's say it happened just for the sake of no argument.
It was stated the boy was a "spitter", knowing this, WHY was the correct procedure followed for spitters? Why was there not a safety net or "guard" placed over the boy's head or mouth?
Let's then say the Sheriff did not follow procedure and use the safety equipment that he should have used, that is, if it is true and the boy was a "spitter" (again, NOT following correct procedure).
IF..., IF and that is a BIG "IF" the reason this happened as some have stated was the Sheriff got spit on. Did he not go through training that would help him to restrain himself from attacking others?
Was he not trained on how to handle inmates?
Is this the first time someone has spit in a jail and the Sheriff just did not know what to do? He did not know how to handle such a situation?
Was it so shocking to him that he just "flew off the handle and lost it? (NO- remember, before he attacked a child that was chained, cuffed and shackled, he asked all witnesses to leave the room)
In my mind, it was planned, why else would you want ALL the witnesses to leave and "close the door". I believe he thought the door was blocking the camera as it was left part way open and appears as though it was not in just the "right spot" to (once again) be HIDDEN from public view.
If a parent spanks his/her child, the parent can be put in jail, HOWEVER, it is OK for an Elected Official to beat and batter a child chained, cuffed and shackled.
Now, imagine if the law enforcement arrived at your home and you child was restrained as this child was and had just got a beating. Could you say, "Well, it was just out of character for me to do this", I was just mad at the time, I was trying to teach him a lesson..., would that be an excuse and would law enforcement leave at that time or would the PARENT be arrested for
Child abuse?
Child endangerment?
Child neglect?
So why is it "OK" for an Elected Official to-
Beat our kids?
Abuse our children?
Is there a "reason" that is "good enough" to beat a chained, cuffed, shackled child that can not even defend himself?
How "brave" do you have to be in order to attack a child chained like an animal caught in a trap?
The politicians and law enforcement wonder why Americans lost respect for them..., watch the video, look at your taxes, lots jobs, down economy and it is OK for law enforcement to beat a child (but don't dare touch an "officer", that is illegal..., such double standards!!
When will the citizens Stand Up and Say THIS IS ENOUGH, We Will NOT Take it Anymore!!
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 06:41 PM
This is just more status quo from officials of calhoun county. People collecting a pay check
and not knowing are caring about what's going on in the county. Maybe Mr. Joiner should make it a point to know what is going on in the county.
Family Links Director Lyndsey Gillam said in her interview with The Star Thursday that
when and how to reprimand a juvenile who misbehaved at the jail was not up to her,
but rather decided by the person from the jail staff or Sheriff's Office supervising them.
A clear policy regarding how the youths sent to this program were to be handled should
have been in effect when the program began.
What a cop-out from MS. Gilliam.
Gillam wouldn't comment Thursday on whether she thought Amerson acted inappropriately or
used an excessive amount of force, as shown in the video clip.
"I don't know all the facts of the case; I think there's more to it than is being reported,"
Gillam said. "I think the sheriff is being cast in a negative light."
Well, duh Ms. Gilliam, You don't teach a child to be non-violent by behaving violently with them!
As far as Joiner is concerned, he said he should have been notified about the juvenile jail program.
Sounds like it's time for spring cleaning at the COunty.
formerccso wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 09:04 PM
I love all the people running to the defense of the High Sheriff. It doesnt matter if the boy spit on the Sheriff or not. He was handcuffed and shackled. From what I've seen of Amerson, that is the ONLY way he would face an inmate, where he is sure he wont get punched. That Family Link program is his way of circumventing the Juvenile Court system. This Family Link director cant say anything until Amerson tells her what to say. She works for him. The corrections officers know what goes on in that jail and someone finally had the intestinal fortitude to do the right thing and expose him. He protects certain drug dealers, while arresting others. Gotta be getting kickbacks from them. This Sheriff should have a TV movie made about his shenanagens.
lpresto wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 10:13 PM
trustme....ever hear of a recall stupid?
duggo wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 10:27 PM
OK so a person or persons in the jail have seen these talks taking place in the past and finally felt it had reached an unaceptable "or unlawful" level, they placed a camera to record and allow us to see what is taking place in the county jail, this obviously was not the first time folks!
simple question is,was it againest the law for any officer of the law to use this kind of force on a shackeled inmate, Mr DA speak up, do your job.
missjones wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 11:54 PM
ok so sometime early this year a story was posted on how great the jail was doing to stay? or make sure they ran everything legal! What did they forget that they posted this story ( to look good of course) , becsause it sure seems like you would let your judges (well since they are the ones sentenceing juveniles) and the commissioners (since they are the ones who are suppose to make sure everything is all good in the jail(which it is not by the way some examples- treatment of inmates, food money that is not used for inmates, inmates crammed in cells with no mats or sheets, inmate who do not get medical treatment (causing death and severe pain) not being allowed to go outside like the rules state they are to be given, dirty unsanitary jail conditions and brute force and who knows how many inmates have been attacked since clearly it is not something that would be told to the public, well we have all seen it with our eyes from this video, yes some of you are saying who cares? or they dont deserve anything good! their lucky they get to eat! well let be say you those who are saying these things YOU would not be saying it if it was your child in there or a loved one that you felt was being unjustle charged or judged, and mostly espescially if it was YOU in there...... so my question is if you Mr. Amerson have such a great lawful program to make sure the jail runs legally and follows the guide lines , then tell us why you were caught on video in this manner. unless you have some kind of law that states it is ok to act this way in your profession!
read the attached on the great evaluation system
49.) Jail to get new system of evaluation
Author: CAMERON STEELE [email protected]
Publish Date: January 27, 2011
Word Count: 669
Document ID: 13506DD113FF08A8
Calhoun County Jail officers now have new means to ensure the way they run the jail is backed by solid legal opinion.
That's because officers now have access to an online database that stays current with operational guidelines set by both case law and precedent established by higher courts across the U.S.
Membership to the database — which allows jail officials to evaluate themselves and their jail policies against these legal guidelines
OOPS! I guess you all forgot to eva;uate youraelf oh! wait maybe thats the problem, you get to evaluate yourself! yeah thats going to work. and as we can see it does not. stop letting this state treat people this way. People stand up for your rights!!!!!!
[email protected] wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 01:39 AM
I hope this child parents sue the city,They should sue Amerson,city,and child serice.My friend said there is also a 16 yr old who is in general popualtion.Every jail has rules,but don't think they tell the new immates.They should post them,that way they can't just change to suit their needs.I think at less put a plant(special agent) to see what is really going on.An if people out there don't think they cover up stuff,then your sadder then I think.How many immate's dieds did you read about...
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Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12609899/article-Juvenile-program-that-included-boy-on-sheriff-video-was-unknown-to-two-county-officials) left for the above article, "Juvenile program that included boy on sheriff video was unknown to two county officials (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=400223#p400222)" (by Cameron Steele; Apr 03, 2011; The Anniston Star), #s 21-35:
licketysplit wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 06:24 AM
Re: deepsix9's comment about the kid being a criminal and a spitter:
Was he a criminal? So he had been arrested and that's why he was in restraints? No. He was another one of Calhoun County's kids that can't be handled by his parents so his parent(s) brought him to the Sheriff so he could wave his magic wand and make this kid act right. There is no "official" scared straight program. This was something that was always done on an "as needed basis."
If he was a spitter, my response to that is WHO CARES??? When I was a corrections officer we were taught that it doesn't matter if someone spits on you or throw any other bodily fluids/waste on you, you cannot retaliate. It's part of the job and everyone knows that this is a possibility when they take a job in any detention setting.
As far as whether Amerson's actions were legal and justified, let's refer to Alabama's Criminal Code regarding use of physical force:
http://law.onecle.com/alabama/criminal- ... -3-27.html (http://law.onecle.com/alabama/criminal-code/13A-3-27.html)
"A peace officer is justified in using that degree of physical force which he reasonably believes to be necessary, upon a person in order, To make an arrest for a misdemeanor, violation or violation of a criminal ordinance, or to prevent the escape from custody of a person arrested for a misdemeanor, violation or violation of a criminal ordinance, unless the peace officer knows that the arrest is unauthorized; or To defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of physical force while making or attempting to make an arrest for a misdemeanor, violation or violation of a criminal ordinance, or while preventing or attempting to prevent an escape from custody of a person who has been legally arrested for a misdemeanor, violation or violation of a criminal ordinance."
Ok, that wasn't the case here was it? No.
"A guard or peace officer employed in a detention facility is justified:In using deadly physical force when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent what he reasonably believes to be the escape of a prisoner accused or convicted of a felony from any detention facility, or from armed escort or guard;In using physical force, but not deadly physical force, in all other circumstances when and to extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent what he reasonably believes to be the escape of a prisoner from a detention facility."
Was this the case then?? Nope.
As far as minors being in the jail, they can be in the jail if they have been adjudicated to stand trial as an adult. This particular kid had not.[/list]
licketysplit wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 06:30 AM
It doesn't matter if the Sheriff was a good person, attended church regularly, gave back to the community..none of that is in question. His character is not being questioned here.
His ACTIONS ARE. His actions should never have happened. Period.
whatthe??? wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 06:54 AM
The more I watch this video the madder I get how can a grown man (Amerson), supposely a Christian (JOKE!!!) hurt a young boy when he is in handcuffs, and shackles? I say get Amerson and his Good Ole Boys out of the Calhoun County Jail, how many other times has this happened... I have a degree in Criminal Justice and no where have I studied tht it is ok to mistreat another human being. If we mistreated our children then DHR will have us in jail WHY NOT AMERSON??? Oh I forgot he's above the law he's the sheriff(JOKE!!!. I hope and pray that since the FBI is involved that they will take action and have Calhoun County Jail revamped and get rid of Amerson and his crew and get the right ppl in there to run the jail the right way. BY THE BOOK!!! NOT AMERSON'S BOOK!!!
trustme wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 08:09 AM
lpresto wrote "trustme....ever hear of a recall stupid?"
lpresto,
Good luck with a recall since we have no procedure for that, stupid!
AnnistonAnonymous wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 08:46 AM
I guess the biggest problem I have is understanding the legality of this program. The Juvenile Justice Act of 2009 strictly prohibits any of these "Scared Straight" programs. From what is described, it sounds like it is exactly that.
§12-15-208
No child shall enter pursuant to public authority, for any amount of time, in secure
custody in a secure section of a jail, lockup, or correctional facility for adults as a
disposition of an offense or as a means of modifying his or her behavior (e.g., Shock
Incarceration or Scared Straight).
trustme wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 09:12 AM
We all have our priviledge to support or not. The priviledge we have is to vote. If you're not in favor of the elected official then vote against him/her. If you didn't vote, shut up.
MichelleMyBelle wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 10:00 AM
Wow. I love how everyone is trippin' out over this "kid" but is perfectly fine with reports of other inmates being mistreated. If y'all are going to get all wrapped up in "human rights" then it needs to apply to EVERYONE. I'd also like to point out there is no audio and therefore no one knows what was said- and I can tell you I am well aware of the trash that kids talk today, he's probably lucky he wasn't talking to his mama or daddy- they most likely would have smacked his jaw. And I can PROMISE you if he'd spit on anyone on the street he would have been picked himself up off the pavement. You all need to step back and stop throwing stones- you weren't there, and it wasn't you, so you don't know HOW you would have reacted.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 10:33 AM
AnnistonAnonymous, I found this tidbit of information alarming as well. From what I've read, it appears that states who violate the juvenile justice code (Act of 2009) simply risk losing federal funding. I could not find anything saying when, if at all, the federal government has the authority to disband these state programs. I assume the states have the right to implement these programs at their discretion, and how they fund them is up to them. Maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject could enlighten us.
Gannon99 wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 11:00 AM
I am so tired about all of this. Next time a mother snatches a kid up in Wal Mart I am going to tape it and send it into the Anniston Star and get Ben Little to come and do a protest outside of her house. If I was Sheriff and the kid "spit" on me like everyone is saying, I would have done a lot worse than grab his mouth I would of punched him in the mouth so he couldnt spit for another 6-8 weeks and those who say they wouldnt do anything, Please let me come to your house and let me spit in your face please
licketysplit wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 03:14 PM
@Gannon99: In a detention setting, you cannot retaliate. Even if someone throws urine or feces on you. You will lose your job and can face charges if you retaliate.
Now if someone in the civilian world does that...well...
luvinmylife wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 05:42 PM
I just watched the video,how dare him reference the bible and say he cares about children!!I was considering sending my daughter to the jail if she was suspended from school but I would not now because I would be afraid for her safety.All of us should be glad the Anniston Star published this because it showed an elective official in the wrong,we had the right to know!!!The words he spoke on the video have no meaning,he apologized for what his family was going through....had he acted like a responsible,caring,mature adult his family wouldnt be hurt.How about this young mans family??Why couldnt he apologize to them?He isnt sorry and he dont care!!!!HE SHOULD BE ARRESTED POINT BLANK PERIOD!!!!!!!!!
ImpartialTruth wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 07:22 PM
luvinmylife, the parents most likely signed a waiver for their son to be in the program, which calls for confrontations by law enforcement and prisoners. If you read about the program the juvenile was in, you would know that. You are overreacting because you don't have your facts straight.
[email protected] wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 11:09 AM
If I understand this right, alot of these youthful offenders are non violent, too many days missed from public school is not a last chance program, It is a ill conceived Idea from judges at the family circuit court of anniston,does not surprise me, lets vote them out
Gannon99 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 03:11 PM
If I worked in the jail and an inmate threw urine on me, and I beat the brakes off of him im pretty sure I would not get fired
BlueHorse2 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:24 AM
DIDN'T KNOW?????? IT'S THERE JOB TO KNOW, AND I DON'T BELIEVE A WORD THEY SAY, THEY ARE PROBABLY ON THE SHERIFF'S PAYROLL, CALHOUN COUNTY'S COMMISSIONERS, ETC., ARE ALL CROOKS, ALL THE ONES I KNOW ARE AND I KNOW THEM WELL...
Kimela Perkey formerly Alvarez
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From the above article, "Juvenile program that included boy on sheriff video was unknown to two county officials (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=400223#p400222)," emphasis added:
Amerson described the program as a partnership with Family Links, Inc., a children's behavior task force for the county. He and Family Links Director Lyndsey Gillam said the program began as a way to let high-risk kids see what jail might be like. But when exactly the program started and whether there are any written rules as to how jail employees must supervise, treat and reprimand students in their care is unclear.
From Family Links, Inc.'s website (http://http://www.familylinksonline.org/):
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About Us - Family Links, Inc. (http://http://www.familylinksonline.org/aboutus.html)
History
A task force of community leaders including our local Family Court Judge, Juvenile Probation Officers, the District Attorney's Office, local law enforcement officials, local school officials, and social service agencies formed the Safe Schools Task Force in May 1999. The task force met bi-weekly over the summer to consider ways to maintain our excellent safe school record and maintain a safe community for our young people. The LINC Program was developed by the task force and a coordinator was hired on October 3, 1999. The task force recognized that to really have an impact on juvenile crime and violence, everyone involved would have to work together to ensure success. The LINC Program became a means of connecting people to services prior to a child's involvement in criminal activity. Since 1999, the task force's vision of a comprehensive approach to addressing potential juvenile crime and violence has solidified and grown. As a natural progression to enhance the program and open new doors for funding, the LINC Program incorporated as a non-profit agency in February 2002. In mid 2007, the LINC Program updated its mission and changed its name to Family Links to better reflect all of the services we offer.
Family Links is funded in part by:
Governor's Office of Faith-Based Community Initiatives, HIPPY of Alabama, ADECA Governor's Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools, Anniston Civil Justice Fund of Alabama Civil Justice Fund, Sheriff's Office Discretionary Funds, Jacksonville City Schools, Calhoun County Schools, Oxford City Schools, Administrative Office of Courts, Department of Youth Services, Wal-Mart Foundation, Americorps, A grant from the Stringfellow Health Fund of the Community Foundation of Calhoun County, Susan Artemis Spector and son Conner Jacob Memorial Advised Fund, Private Donations and Fundraising.
Family Links also receives funds from United Way for counseling services.
256.820.5911 - P.O. Box 5072 McClellan, AL 36205
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Family Links, Inc. has a number of programs, covering a range of services. The program which involves juveniles spending time at the Calhoun County Sheriff's Office is Success Academy.
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Services - Family Links, Inc. (http://http://www.familylinksonline.org/services.html)
Parent Project
A ten week course for parents of strong-willed or "out of control" children and adolescents. Other services are offered in addition to this program
LINC ID
A celebration of youth leadership. An incentives program for youth who lead a drug-free and violence-free lifestyle
HIPPY
A free program for parents of three and four year old children who want to ensure their future success in school
Adolescent Drug Treatment
A drug treatment program for adolescents experiencing problems related to drug abuse
Success Academy
Educational and therapeutic safety net to prevent juvenile offenders from being committed to the Department of Youth Services
Tobacco Prevention
Learn about Tobacco prevention programs such as Clean Air For Life, YEP! and Lifeskills
Parents As Teachers
Provides information, support and encouragement parents need to help their child develop optimally during the crucial early years of life
Don't Shake a Baby!
A prevention program presented to concerned public groups about the dangers of Shaken Baby Syndrome
256.820.5911 - P.O. Box 5072 McClellan, AL 36205
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Somehow I find it less than entirely believable that Sheriff Larry Amerson initiated this FBI investigation. :D
But... I could be wrong!
There are two (Adobe Flash Player) Video clips accessible via the article title link. The first one is Amerson's press conference. The second is of a protest march which had occurred but hours earlier, featuring Abdul H. Khalil'llah of Operation Human Rights, and calling for Sheriff Amerson's resignation.
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The Anniston Star · Alabama
Amerson says he asked for FBI investigation (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12624593/article-Amerson-says-he-asked-for-FBI-investigation?)
by Cameron Steele · [email protected] · Anniston Star
Apr 05, 2011
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Amerson Press Conference
View Sheriff Larry Amerson responding to the situation that occurred at the Calhoun County Sheriff's Office.
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Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson said in a press conference today that he requested the FBI investigate a video that shows Amerson using manual force against a juvenile male.
The sheriff's conference happened just hours after local civil rights leaders led a protest in front of the county jail, calling for Amerson's resignation.
Amerson did not comment on that protest and did not take questions after his 2 p.m. conference.
Instead, he used the conference to discuss his desire for the FBI to look into the actions shown on the video and to berate The Star for first publishing that video.
The Star received the video March 30 from a source requesting anonymity.
"Last Friday, I talked with FBI officials and requested that they investigate events that occurred at the Calhoun County Sheriff's Office. I believe that an independent investigation is the most appropriate way to address any allegations of wrongdoing. I am pleased that they agreed to conduct a preliminary review," the sheriff said during the public meeting.
He also addressed what he said were several media requests under the Freedom of Information Act to release the full video that the two-and-a-half minute clip was taken from.
"Even that powerful and beneficial law does not allow for me or anyone to violate a juvenile's rights by releasing that information to the public," Amerson said. "It disturbs me on many levels both professionally, personally and as a Christian that The Anniston Star said they are above this law ... The Anniston Star claims to be the attorney for the most defenseless among its subscribers. Yet they exposed a juvenile to the public, placing he and his family at risk by showing his face. That exposure can never be undone."
Amerson is referring to the video, which The Star first published March 31. Before the clip was published online, The Star staff blurred the juvenile's face to avoid revealing his identity.
In the silent clip, Amerson grabs the boy, who is seated on a bench next to him, handcuffed, shackled and dressed in an orange-striped jumpsuit. Amerson forces the boy's head back toward the wall by pushing on the boy's chin; the sheriff then holds the boy in that position for several seconds.
Then, after a moment of what appears to be further conversation between the sheriff and the boy, Amerson uses both arms, on at the boy's shirt collar, to pull him backward toward the wall again.
Amerson walked out immediately after his giving his written speech to the media, stating at the beginning of the conference he could not lawfully release any more information about the video or his use of physical force during the interview with the restrained juvenile.
In interviews last week, Amerson noted that juveniles were not held in Calhoun County Jail. Instead, youthful offenders or children suspended from school could participate in a type of jail program at the requests of those juveniles' parents.
Juveniles who participate in the program wear inmate jumpsuits and perform community service work at the jail, under the direction of a jail supervisor, Amerson said then.
The sheriff also described the program as a joint operation between the Sheriff's Office and Family Links Inc.
Amerson refused to talk to a Star reporter Monday about the logistics of that program.
Chief Deputy Matthew Wade walked out on that reporter Monday when she was in the middle of asking him to provide any public records that document program procedures, attendance and costs.
Contact Star Staff Writer Cameron Steele at 256-235-3562.
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Here's the transcript of what Sheriff Larry Amerson said at his April 5th press conference. The Anniston Star's website provides a copy immediately underneath their article, "Amerson says he asked for FBI investigation (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12624593/article-Amerson-says-he-asked-for-FBI-investigation?#1)" (Adobe Flash Player).
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Amerson Press Conference transcript
I am about to read a statement. I am putting all information that I believe I can lawfully release at this time in this statement. I will not be able to take any questions.
Last Friday I talked with FBI officials and requested that they investigate events that occurred at the Calhoun County Sheriff's Office. I believe that an independent investigation is the most appropriate way to address any allegations of wrong doing. I am pleased that they agreed to conduct a preliminary review.
When I was first a candidate for Sheriff, I pledged to conduct the business of the Office of Sheriff in a professional manner and to be accountable. Over the past 16 years I have never wavered from that goal. On those occasions when we have made a mistake, I have been up front about it. I will continue to do so.
I am a follower of Christ and have devoted my life to Christian principles in both my personal and professional endeavors. As a public official I am accountable to the public and the media. But all too often my friends and family are subjected to hurtful words because of the Office I hold. I would like to take this moment and apologize to those nearest and dearest to me who have suffered over the past days.
I also wish to thank those at Family Links for their dedicated service to children in Calhoun County. I do not apologize to anyone for working every day to help children in our county. We have always been and will continue to be innovative and energetic in that regard. Many parents have gratefully entrusted their child to us when that child is suspended from school in an effort to present the child with consequences related to their behavior. We are in the trenches battling every day against the negative influences that face our children. It continues to be our goal to make Calhoun County a safer place to raise a family.
I have been contacted by several media requesting release of an entire video under the freedom of information act. Even that powerful and beneficial law does not allow for me or anyone to violate a juvenile's rights by releasing that information to the public. It disturbs me on many levels both professionally, personally and as a Christian that the Anniston Star said they are above this law. This law was enacted to protect children and shield juveniles from public view. The Anniston Star claims to be the attorney for the most defenseless among its subscribers. Yet they have exposed a juvenile to the public placing he and his family at risk by showing his face. That exposure can never be undone.
The issues on what information should be released are not always crystal clear and judgements must be made. You in the media have a duty to report events that happen in our community in a fair and balanced way. If you do take a side, you lose that balance. You should, as law enforcement does, carry out your duties with honesty and fairness and thankfully like us, you normally do.
There is a movement across this country where the media is being manipulated to create an atmosphere of anger and distrust of the pillars of our society. These attacks on our federal and state constitutions are deeply dividing our county. I, your Sheriff, stand in defense of our laws and shall remain here to carry out that duty. As in Romans 13:1, I am subject to the governing authorities. I will assist the FBI with their review no matter what direction it may take or the outcome.
Thank you
Sheriff Larry Amerson
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Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12624593/article-Amerson-says-he-asked-for-FBI-investigation?) left for the above article, "Amerson says he asked for FBI investigation (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=400234#p400231)" (by Cameron Steele; Apr 05, 2011; Anniston Star), #s 1-20:
ImpartialTruth wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 06:23 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with you, Sheriff Amerson. The Star was absolutely wrong to break a video of this nature without getting all the facts first. They showed a severe error in judgment by this. I am personally appalled at the coverage of this situation and I am glad that you spoke up.
The fact that the source who leaked this video requested anonymity leads me to believe this is about some kind of vendetta. Civil rights activists got involved simply because of the way the Star reported this matter. But anyone with a brain knows that this is NOT about white sheriff vs. black juvenile. If the Star wants to stir up racial tension to sell newspapers or fulfill whatever agenda they have, that's their little ball of wax. I do not blame you or Chief Deputy Wade one bit for not talking to reporters. Whatever the reason may be, we support you and we stand behind you, and we know that there is more to the story than we got from a two-minute video. The Star says the context of the situation was not important, but they are dead wrong. The context is everything.
borderdog wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 06:48 PM
I agree that the Anniston Star should be investigated for acquiring private video from The Calhoun County Sheriff Office and then printing the situation without having all of the facts. Also, it is possible The Star violated laws by secretly acquiring private and confidential video.
Let's have the FBI look into the secretly acquiring private video.
Exploder wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 06:51 PM
What I don't understand is the law here Larry keeps envoking. I understand it's a juvenile case, but if the juvenile is not named, why can't he elaborate on what's shown on the tape? Nobody will know who he's talking about, so what does it matter?
Also, LOL at Impartialtruth's shoot-the-messenger mentality. Typical.
luvinmylife wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 06:52 PM
The Anniston Star didnt come to his jail and spy on him,thankfully he was exposed by one of the few caring individuals who work at his jail.What a coward he is by not taking questions and saying he was a christian,what??..ok repent and move on so the people in this county can vote to elect a sheriff that we can trust and beleive in.I had much respect for the Family Links program until they took a stand behind a man who committed the crime of child abuse.I will no longer recommend this program to anyone.Maybe they as adults need to read the parent book again,nowhere in this book does it say that we should choke,grab or use force to discilpline children.Practice what you all preach or go find another profession!!!Hopefully not with children being your primary concern!!!
ImpartialTruth wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 07:18 PM
Exploder--the "messenger" relayed a skewed message to readers, and nowhere did I say that the Star should be investigated--that was another poster. If you think the sheriff can divulge any detail about a juvenile case, you don't know the law. iluvmylife, you really need to read the law as well. Child abuse?
jville wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 07:21 PM
Luninmylife....the anniston star is quilty of receiving stolen property and publishing the photo of a juvenile. The star took this stolen property and is causing much pain and grief for everyone involved in this situation. IF.....the star had chosen to act in a professional manor and investigated this allegation, would there be a story at all? I seriously doublt it. The star, as usual, acted in the best interest of the star.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 07:25 PM
jville, I agree. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees through the crap.
jville wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 07:29 PM
It's a set up, plain and simple.
And the star will get away with it!!!
John5299 wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 08:01 PM
Well, Well, Well. I am not taking up or going against Amerson. Our Sheriff calls a press conference and doesn't reveal anything about the video of him abusing a juvenile. Instead, he tries to divert the situation by telling what a christian he is and quoting the book of Romans, however he didn't quote all what the Bible has to say about this situation. Children are abused and mistreated in several different ways, all of which are abhorrent to God. Too many children are the victims of angry beatings and other physical abuse as their parents take out their own anger and frustration on their children. Anger is almost always sinful, and "Anyone" who abuses a child in anger commits multiplied sins. “An angry man stirs up dissension, and a hot-tempered one commits many sins” (Proverbs 29:22). There is no place for unrighteous anger in the life of a Christian, as Paul reminds the Ephesians: "In your anger do not sin: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold” (Ephesians 4:26-27). Anger should be confessed to God long before it comes to the point of Physical abuse against a "child" or anyone else.
Then he turns around and puts the blame on the Anniston Star. What a cop out. What would have happened if the press hadn't exposed Nixon in the Watergate affair? The press reported what they were suppose to. There wasn't anything taken out of context here unless the tape was altered. As far as Amerson refusing to answer questions about his actions on the video, I take it he does not have the integrity to admit what he did and why he did it. Hopefully, the FBI investigation will reveal the truth. Amerson knows the truth about what went on and if he knows he's guilty should resign while he can still keep his dignity. If his "near and dear" are getting flak about this he shouldn't have done it. I was in law enforcement for 24 years and this kind of abuse does happen.
And now Mr. Impartialtruth and Borderdog I would like to see what you have to rebut this with?
honestgovernment wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 08:36 PM
OK I have a question for folks on both sides of this argument.
Suppose a "concerned" citizen wanted to make sure this investigation was viewed in the proper public light and hacked into the FBI files and stole the video interrogations of the Sheriff and all the other parties involved. As part of their concerned citizens actions they felt they needed to give the videos to the Star to make sure the media could properly expose the illegally obtained videos.
So the dilema you have on both sides is would the person hacking and stealing the investigation files from the FBI be prosecuted and would the Star be named as an accomplice even though they say it is freedom of speech?
I think we all know the answer here and if I were Clark Kent, I would be talking to a lawyer just in case krypton falls from the sky.
The down side of picking a fight, any fight, is you usually get punched or kicked even though you might win in the end. Some bruises and scars last a lifetime. The ones that picked this fight might be surprised that they end up with some visible scars in the end.
Exploder wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 08:39 PM
ImpartialTruth:
I KNOW the sheriff can't divulge information about a juvenile case. That was my point. The law is stupid in this case. Amerson should be able to defend himself but he's handcuffed by his job.
It's equally stupid of people who think the Star should sit on this. That's their job.
jville wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 09:31 PM
The star should done an investigation into this matter publishing something that could prove to be nothing. Too many thing don't add up. The deputies we ask to leave but leave the door open, Amerson has to know there is a video camera running. There is no sound. The tape does not show abuse.
IF....there were clear and undisputable proof, AND....the star did their homework first. THEN.....the tape should have been published.
That would have been the right thing to do.
If this were being done to Ayers do you not thing he would have lawyers screeming from the highest mountain.
deepsix9 wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 10:10 PM
As I have said on a couple of posts here, I know a person inside the County Jail who has knowledge of the "event."
First, Amerson put the kid where he was sitting so HE WOULD BE ON CAMERA.
The kid had been acting up, the reason for the cuffs. The kid was a spitter. The kid was a juvie trouble maker. Otherwise, why was he at the jail.
Amerson is PROHIBITED by law from talking. He breaks that, he not only can be sued, but arrested. Get the driff there doubters?
The kid was acting up. Amerson was trying to talk to him. The others were asked to leave to allow the kid to settle down, not feel ganged up on.
The kid spit on Amerson, the results was Amerson jumped up and put his HAND OVER THE KID'S MOUTH! Trying to stop the spitting.
The tape release was not by some "very concerned jail employee." It was released by someone with a grudge, an agenda against Amerson. Go figure! A disgruntled employee! Wow, never heard of such a thing have you?
There are other factors at work here that have not been released. Think Anniston Star reporter who has had an agenda against the sheriff and jail ever since said reporter came on the scene! Wow again. Go figure a reporter who does not get his/her way having an agenda against an official.
Said reporter and "others" have agendas against Amerson it is believed by the person I have spoke with. These individuals want Amerson out. They could not defeat him in an election, thus wait until something they can "wound" him with and he has to quit or forced out. These "others" have their own agenda. The Star has its. The Star supported the Sneads way back when, not Amerson who defeated the old sheriff. You remember him don't you, ole Roy Snead, who wore more camo uniforms at the jail than the military does. At least Amerson wears a suit.
Some of you here have even gone as far as to make comments concerning the sheriff's personal appearence. Well, that is silly at best. I doubt you are Mr/Miss Physically Fit. It is usually smart mouths that make such stupid statements.
Basically, Amerson defended himself from an Assault! Do you know of a more serious form of disrespect that any individual can do too you than spit in your face????? Can you name me ONE?? What would have all you holy than thou's have done if some person spit in your face? Just like everyone else, you would have tried to punch them straight in the nose! Don't lie, you would.
Let's let the FBI do their thing. If they come back that Amerson broke the law, then YES, he deserves to go. If not, then he has a right to finish his term. Then come election time, Calhoun County residents can determine if he stays on again or goes, or he can retire and let some others run for the position.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 10:40 PM
Exploder, I get that it is the job of the press to report the truth. I get that the press has the right to put a spin on stories, but does that make it right? This issue involves a juvenile for pete sakes. It was wrong. I'm with jville on this one, because Cameron Steele should have investigated first. And John, I do not think you understand the point. By comparing this to Watergate, you make me scratch my head. I never blamed the star for the sheriff's actions on the video. In fact, I typically agree with the Star on most issues, which makes me all the more outspoken on how this issue was handled. What I blame the Star for is failing to investigate fully before reporting the story. If they had done that, I don't think civil rights groups would be stirring things up the way they did today. Simply put: they published too soon.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 10:50 PM
honestgovernment, good luck hacking into an FBI computer. Maybe if you wear your Clark Kent glasses, no one will recognize you lol-and I agree with you, those who pick fights usually don't escape unscathed.
Exploder wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 11:14 PM
ImpartialTruth,
I do hear you, brother.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Monday, Apr 04 at 11:25 PM
Helpful info Just posted:
http://www.calcoso.org/public_news.cfm?urlid=150 (http://www.calcoso.org/public_news.cfm?urlid=150)[/list]
ImpartialTruth wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:30 AM
Amen, deepsix! These personal attacks of the sheriff on these message boards could actually be investigated. Ever heard of libel, justthetruth? Because you are walking a fine line in your personal attacks. You have the right to freedom of speech, sure, but you have no right to post false accusations about a person that have the potential to hurt multiple people. Leave the sheriff's family out of this.
werewolf905 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:00 AM
The sheriff should get a pat on the back for a job well done. This juvenile was at the jail for a reason. Whether it was him being in a program for troubled juveniles where the parents had to drop him off or whether he commited a crime, it does not matter. If it was my kid and he was acting up like that being a smart*#@, I would shake the sheriff's hand for handling the problem. That is what is wrong with the young people today. They think they can do and say what ever they want without any consequences. I say GREAT JOB SHERIFF !!!!!!
J.E.N wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:29 AM
After watching the Amerson protest video, this explains it all. Seems to be the same ones stirring the pot, nothing new.
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Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12624593/article-Amerson-says-he-asked-for-FBI-investigation?) left for the above article, "Amerson says he asked for FBI investigation (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=400234#p400231)" (by Cameron Steele; Apr 05, 2011; Anniston Star), #s 21-40:
J.E.N wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:35 AM
Just out of curiousity, when will the Star be served a warrant for receiving stolen property?
meroll wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:02 AM
Guess what? Christians sin. They commit adultury, do drugs, drink alcohol in excess. Sometimes they commit violent acts. Christians sometimes sit in judgement against other Christians when they're guilty of the same things. So do Atheists, Jews, Buddhist, Hindi and yes even those that follow The Nation of Islam and all other forms of worship/religion.
You guys can point the finger at religion all you want...You look like a bunch of tongue wagging lunatics. You're obsessed with proving your version of "This is what life really is" and are completely blind to the real problems.
You're all interested in fixing the blame.(Apparently, it's Christianity's fault) Fixing the problem must be "somebody else's job, eh? According to some of you, religion IS the problem. Even though it has nothing to do with the singular act of a sheriff getting "too rough" with a handcuffed citizen.
For some, this is a chance to prove "the ractist tactics and policies perpetrated by this evil, racist administration, here in Calhoun County". For some, this will be a goldmine to further their own racist agenda, here in Calhoun County.
For some, it's a gold mine in Headlines and sales.
Quick, find out if anyone "knows about this program", so we can pick it apart.
The FBI has been called in. The ABI is investigating. This calls for immediate discussion! Quick, somebody get the media on the line so we can look busy!
Here's what I want to know:
Why was this young man in the jail, to begin with?
If he wasn't a prisoner, what HAD he done to be in that situation?
What can be done to see to it that fewer and fewer of these young men are in this situation?
What do we have to do to make a jail something besides "Criminal University"? What IS acceptable when the law is being disrespected at every turn? OOOH I know...BLAME THE LAW!
My name is Marty Rollins and I guess I'm a racist. I can't stand the HUMAN RACE, right now. They make me sick to my stomach and I'm embarrassed to be a member of it.
Red and yellow, black and white you are sickening in my sight...
slcal wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:21 AM
Amerson is trying to mis-use the juvenile's anonymity to keep from talking about the incident. And, his dramatic statement "The Star exposed a juvenile to the public, placing he and his family at risk by showing his face. That exposure can never be undone.” That statement is ridiculous. Amerson might as well say "I'm lawyering up". And, why the FBI? Why not the ABI? Amerson probably thought the FBI would turn his request down thinking they would not have the time or resources. Republicans get a canidate in the bullpen warming up!!!
Gannon99 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:24 AM
omg I am so tired of everyone talking about this. Look is their nothing better to do on a Tuesday morning than comment on what you believe is wrong in your eyes? So what the Sheriff grabbed up a misbehaving child, no worse than what some of you will do at Wal Mart when your child acts up. If anybody else did this nobody would care. The Officers in Birmingham beat the crap out of a guy with his hands up in the air, and it was on the news twice. this happens and all Hell breaks loose in the county because we have nothing better to talk about, and shame on you people for bashing his Christian character. So what people make mistakes like he said in his press conference in Romans 13:1, Everyone must submit to Governing authorities, He himself said he was not above the law. let he who is without sin please cast the first stone..... O...thats right no one is without sin, and I do not blame Matthew Wade I would have walked out on Cameron Steele as well, because the Sheriff was not taking questions so why should he? I'm sure the star won't come down there this year and get a deep fried turkey that the Sheriff's office gives out every year
ImpartialTruth wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:37 AM
Marty, I hear you. "Tongue wagging lunatics" lol that pretty much sums it up. The questions you posed under "here is what I want to know" should have been answered in the first story that ran. If the Star couldn't answer those questions, they had no business breaking the video. Irresponsible reporting.
slcal, he swore an oath to uphold the law. you would be following the law exactly too if you had as much responsibility as him. He is not using the juvenile as a shield. He is protecting him, something the Star didn't consider. The fact is this--the Star overstepped here. It is not about republican or democrat. It is about right and wrong.
slcal wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:37 AM
Oh, the Sheriff gives out deep fried turkeys every year. Well never mind then. I guess he's innocent! We MUST submit to authority but not the abuse of authority!
slcal wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:48 AM
No. It's not about republican or democrat. Republican is just my preference and I do not have confidence in Wade! And, no, Amerson is not following the law. He is underminding those who does not know how the law reads. And, no, the Star did not overstep here. The Star reported an injustice that would have otherwise gone unreported. And, yes, it is about right and wrong. The Star was right, the Sheriff was wrong.
Gannon99 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:51 AM
O I didnt say he was innocent because he gives them out. I was just saying that i'm sure the Star is not going to get one this year for their unfair biased reporting. Sical I cant believe the Sheriff beat the crap out of that kid!!! I mean he punched him in the face, told him his Mother didnt love him, and continue to punch him, and then put him into the sleeper hold until he could no longer breathe....O.....He didnt, So why is everybody acting like he did. If any other officer did that to the kid NOBODY WOULD CARE
Jesus_Hates_Sinners wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 10:49 AM
Mr. Rollins, when you said this :"Guess what? Christians sin. They commit adultury, do drugs, drink alcohol in excess. Sometimes they commit violent acts." , you give yourself away as to what the bible actually says. Second Corithians 5:17 " Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature; OLD THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY; behold all things are become new."Salvation without any behavioral changes is worthless. From what I understand there are classes available at Jacksonville State University for reading comprehension.
For anyone that still desires to hold the "title" of Christian, maybe they should read Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth NO MORE sacrifice for sins.(this says a lot for once saved always saved).
By Sheriff Amerson having a second wife, is he as the Christians like to say, "Living in Sin"? If he is a "follower of Christ" , it begs the question; Does he read his bible to gain the understanding of his deeds while on this planet? You say Christains sin in your comment.In my experience in this life , you are right, they are the greatest sinners of all. Finally does Sheriff Amerson not realize , his physical force used against the young man in the video mimics that of the Roman soldiers in the story of the abuse of Jesus before he was hung on a cross? I read my bible do you?
ImpartialTruth wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 11:01 AM
jesus hates sinners, are you telling us that you never sin? Never do anything wrong? Never do anything to hurt another person? Never even covet your neighbor's truck or look at a woman in a lustful way? Wow. Even if you don't do any of those, you are casting stones at someone with the intent to harm them, as if you are without sin. That's sinful to me. So if you are the definition of what "perfect" looks like, I'm thankful I'm not.
scarllett5 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 11:01 AM
Some people on here want to kill the messenger and not the message. Amerson being an elected official of Calhoun County has an accountability to the people of the County. God bless the person who released this video because this is the only way the public would have known about the brutality of this man. Amerson said he was a Christan and what that means is to be Christ like. What kind of individual could say that Christ who said "turn the other cheek" would condone this brutal use of force on a child. Get your head out of the PCP tainted soil and wake up Anniston to reality.
Gannon99 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 11:06 AM
when something starts with for, it implies that it is pointing back to what has already been said
it isnt a statement within itself, its dependent on what was before. Jesus_Hates_Sinners, quit raping the Bible and using it to prooftext things. O btw Jesus loves Sinners, thats why he died. He just hates the Sin thats in our lives. If he hated all of us,because we are all sinners, there would be no reason for him to come and die, why would u die for someone u hated
Gannon99 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 11:09 AM
Scarllett5 turning the other cheek does not mean what u think u are taking it out on context. Slapping a man in jewish customs was in insult, so if some one insults you so what keep going. If someone hits you by all means hit them back, Jesus didnt call us nor did he want us to be a bunch of sissy's
rjack112 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 11:22 AM
ImpartialTruth, JHS is an attention-seeking troll who perverts scripture just to get a reaction out of someone. He posts under at least 2 different names, most likely more, and we would do well to just ignore his illogical rants.
scarllett5 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 12:18 PM
« Gannon99 I'm not too sure what you are trying to say but a juvenile that is handcuffed and shackled and being pounced upon by the sheriff is what happened as evidenced by the video. The sheriff did not hit him in self defense of himself but to simply be a bully because he could.
luvinmylife wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 01:06 PM
Your sheriff didnt ask for the FBI to come here snooping into the way he operates his jail,the man is still lying!!!!His actions will never be justified in my opinion.He was caught in the act of abusing a child.Theres no telling what all this man has done to break the law that we havent seen.Why should the star be served with a warrant??What goes on at that county jail should be an open book especially if they are going to have minors there.You all that defend this man need to look past your prejudice beleifs and see this for what it is,abuse of force on a minor.My parents used a switch and belt to my backside a few times but they never choked me,slammed me against a wall nor grabbed on me like a ragdoll.If this boys parents would of done this they would be in jail so why is it that the sheriff shouldnt have to be made accountable for the actions that he took?How was this child a threat to him when this boys hands and feet were restrained??
Gannon99 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 01:52 PM
Lol I am 100% sure that the FBI is investagating, the Sheriff and his actions. As I can clearly see on this video the Sheriff did not "choke" this kid, he simply grabbed this kid up because im sure he was acting a fool. Its not like this kid is at the jail for reading his bible too much, or that he obeyed his parents too much, if he broke into your house and stole what you had you would want this kid to be punished to the fulliest.
skalag wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 03:05 PM
Our Sheriff may have had a reason for his actions but that does not mean they were the right reasons. People are supposed to be able to trust our policemen, but when they do things like this are you going to tell your thirteen year old not to be afraid of him? Everybody in the US has seen it now since it is viral on youtube. Most kids would run away from him. If he treated that child like that then he will or has done it again and again and again. The kind of 'punishment' he heaped on that child will only make him hate the police and everything involved with them. To the person who stated the Star should be sued for stealing the tape: I highly doubt the star stole the tape. Someone whom we will never know decided it was time for the abuse that goes on down there to stop. Children should not even be near that place, much less inside of it. But we are a society of "turn our eyes the other way", "what would Jesus do", an eye for an eye, ane the biggest one of all "He is a good Christian man". He may be, I don't know and I don't care. In the end there is no good reason for this to have happened. I say good job to the person or persons who decided this had gone on long enough and made sure it was made public. It is scary to think that a person trusted him to help with an out of control teenager and he breaks the trust like this. He is an adult and he knew better.
Phaeton wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 06:22 PM
I just saw this on channel six news. This is a link to the breaking news on the sheriff Amerson episode.
http://www.myfoxal.com/Global/story.asp?S=14389822 (http://www.myfoxal.com/Global/story.asp?S=14389822)[/list]
justhetruth wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 06:55 PM
To all who have been telling the readers that the young man in the video was placed in the sheriff's custody by his mother, there is a lawsuit or will be by tonight, filed against the sheriff. The young man is 14 years of age, and is not a career criminal, but got in trouble in school. According to the law suit that will be filed, it alledeges in part that the sheriff tried to choke the young man and used a lot of racial slurs at him. I think there will be a lot of folks shocked once they find out JusTheTruth about this entire situation.
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another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:09 PM
Are you aware that Sheriff Amerson's stepson works in the video room at the county jail? Rumors has it that he was tired of the way his stepdad was treating his mother so he turned the video over the the Anniston Star. If this is true, THANKS and KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. The citizerns of Calhoun County deserve better than what they have in a sheriff.
Jesus_Hates_Sinners wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:22 PM
The follower of Christ is in a lot of trouble:
ANNISTON, Ala. (AP) - A woman has filed a federal lawsuit claiming her 14-year-old son was roughed up by Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson in a jailhouse incident that was captured on videotape.
Stacy Brown sued Tuesday claiming the sheriff mistreated her son, who she had enrolled in a "scared straight" program after he got in trouble at school. He was at the jail to learn a lesson.
The lawsuit claims a jail officer threatened to kill Brown's son and called him a racial slur before he was taken into a small room where a video surveillance camera was running. The suit says it was inside that room that Amerson manhandled the boy, who was seated on a bench in handcuffs and shackles.
Amerson says the FBI is reviewing the tape at his request.
arizonagirl wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:26 PM
I have two interesting observations:
One - Where is 'Honestgovernment' and his posts on this forum - on this subject? Interesting that he/she always has something to say to blast anyone who disagrees with law enforcement in this town.
Two - Am I the only one reading these posts who honestly believes that the FBI is an unbiased and honorable 'independent and appropirate' group to be investigating its own?
The type of behavior that goes on in the sherrifs office is anything but professional and appropriate.
Amerson blatantly abused a juvinile and he should be placed in an orange and white jumpsuit with hands and feet shackeled and placed in the very jail where he committed this crime.
arizonagirl wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:29 PM
In addition....maybe 'Honestgovernment' is not posting because he/she is way too close to this situation ......
another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:33 PM
Somewhere I read in the Bible, BE SURE YOUR SINS WILL FIND YOU OUT, and another one, WHATSOEVER A MAN SOWETH, THAT SHALL HE ALSO REAP. What about, the golden rule, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU? One thing that bothers me about the sheriff bragging about his christianity. I have always been of the opinion that a true Christian does not have go around wearing his religious belief on his sleeve or bragging about how good he/she is. Another bothersome thing, if the sheriff is such a great family man, where was his families at the press conference? Where was his pastor and church members? Where were all the deputies who work for him? I think these are fair comments and I hope the Anniston Star will not delete them. The sheriff is a public servant and has to answer to the citizens. This sitution is far from being over.
madmac013 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:37 PM
Here we go. The court of public opinion is now in session. Let's just skip due process, an investigation, and, if necessary, a trial. Let's go right to execution. None of us have all the facts. We can't even be sure if the Star released the entire video. Remember Rodney King? The press showed him being beaten by police officers. What the press chose not to show were the moments following up to that where King was throwing officers around like rag dolls because he was on PCP. That part wasn't shown until the trial. As far as I can tell, no one on this forum is a video expert or has seen the entire series of events leading up to this, or even after the event. Rumors an innuendo just make it worse. Keep your rumors to yourselves. Let's wait until all the facts come out before we make a decision. Even then, it will ultimately be up to a jury of his peers in a proper trial with a judge to decide.
heimsman wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:55 PM
A Christian huh? He wasn't such a 'Christian' when he was married to his first wife. Changing tags on his county issued SUV to meet his girlfriend who is now his current wife. These meetings took place in secluded locations throughout the county, motels, side of the road and even at his office. It is amazing how a sheriff needed his 'administrative assistant' so much.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:09 PM
Can we please stop with the Christian/non-Christian crap? It has absolutely no bearing on the outcome of this situation and I'm personally sick of these uneducated posts about who's committed what sin and who's going to hell and who's not. Judge, judge, judge. Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather know concrete facts than pass judgment.
honestgovernment wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:17 PM
arizona girl, Yes I am close to this one and will tell you up front that Amerson is a friend. I don't turn my back on my friends. That being said I believe that there are some folks out to get Amerson and you have to weigh that with everything that is being leaked and postured.
Would you rather any sheriff just tell everyone to kiss off and not bother them with trying to educate and keep folks out of jail? One really has to understand that the scared straight program is not part of the assigned duties but volunteer work by the officers to try to help kids. You won't have much luck changing the heart and mind of a gang banger by playing rook with them and serving them cupcakes.
Is it better to just tell all the blacks to lump it and don't bother anyone till their kids get to age 18 and get indicted by the grand jury. I for one say no, we can help all people and races but they have to want help.
Look at the State Troopers, do you think they give a rip about your age, race or trying to help you out, no you are just a pawn on thier chess board. Whether you like Amerson or not at least he was trying where no one else would.
I can tell you for sure that the Star wants to stick Amerson in the back because he won't give them exclusive access to stories. See what happens to you when you stand up to the red star
coonhunter911 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:33 PM
Long Term Effects?
What about the long term affects of this lawsuit? Lets say hypothetically the kid wins and Momma and him get rich off of you (the taxpayer) what kind of message is that gonna send to the rest of the juveniles in Calhoun County for that matter the rest of the country? If you get expelled from school then spit on law enforcement then you get to file a civil lawsuit reap millions and happy ever after?
Is anyone considering the long term effects? There has to be a line somewhere just because you are a professional does not give other "non professionals" the right to act like animals then get treated like millionaires.
Humans don't spit animals do so which is he?
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heimsman wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:46 PM
ImpartialTruth - The sheriff is the one who played the 'Christian' card on the video. I exercised my 1st amendment right by making note of his integrity and accountability.
In God we trust, all other are investigated by the FBI.
coonhunter911 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:10 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 2#42434542 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42434542#42434542)
This 8 year old gets maced by police after 3rd incident in school. What the helll are police suppose to do parents?
Start fining parents, start taking their tax refunds away, start taking their foodstamps away lil junior gets hungry enough he might start behaving. Rewarding them with lawsuits and this is why officers are getting mad and police brutality is on the rise not only do they have to police society but raise your spoiled brats as well.....
What happens when you violate our traffic laws? You get your liscense took away maybe we ought to take away "child credits" when Mom and Dad can't do their jobs.
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planeman wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 06:35 AM
Why should there be an investigation it's on video their spyware caught up with them and this is an example how they think they are above the law, from Mike in Atlanta.
Evil_Phillip_Tutor wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:23 AM
This is just like our own StarriLeaks.
Now all we have to do is find our Manning.
setsail98 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 08:17 AM
Well, well, well... Muslim wanna "b" Little makesto abdul's little frakus but is a NO SHOW for city business... Throw his arse under the bus!!! Funny, I don't remember any of those Abdul-ha nor kalah-haha types when I was growing up here.
nonhyphenatedAmerican wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:01 AM
Hey Star online editor, what part of the truth in my post here didnt you like that caused you to delete it?
nonhyphenatedAmerican wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:07 AM
Exactly setsail . Ole being little couldnt get enough media exposure doing good work for the city. But let him march and just like magic, there he is.
arizonagirl wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 10:22 AM
planeman: EXACTLY - what needs to be investigated? The video does not lie.
Honestgovernment: It is honorable for you to stand up for your friend.....however, just because your 'friend' is a Sherrif, does NOT give him the right to use physical violence or force on a juvinile. Amerson got caught doing what he has probably done for 16 years only this time it is on tape,undisputable truth, he is a bully, and a pathetic one at that, he is an adult, he should act like one!
1SGRock wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 11:32 AM
WAKE UP!!! All of you Amerson suck-ups make me totally sick at my stomach! The real issue at hand is not the kid larry alledged to have violated his rights. Larry Dean Amerson isn't an angel either. The real issue is that Larry got caught on tape doing something that was wrong and you can't throw it under a rug and make like it never happened. I hate it that Larry has something on many of you and you kiss his arse to survive. He is a dishonest person who hides behind a badge. He has been reported before and I guess it pays to have others watching your back. This is hopefully not going away and lets hope the truth will come out and many will fall. I honestly don't give a damn charlotte. Calhoun County needs a real Sheriff who honestly cares about all of you and not just those who are on his payrole. He would burn you in a New York minute if given the cnahce because he is very vindictive. Just ask all of those honest people who were run off for being so. How may drug dealers do you know that hide behind a badge? Tell me, what is the difference between being dishonest and being dishonest with a badge on your breast? There are many Honest Police Officers & Deputies in this County that deserve proper recognition! Then there are those like Larry who just wear a badge! If you think any different, you honestly have not a clue!
peoplernuts wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 01:51 PM
Honestgovernment:
I am suprised to read that you are friends with the Sheriff. I figured you to be one of the many nut cases we have around here who is tied up in the same package with people like Ben Little, Debra Jones and Larry Barton. I find all of them and the Sheriff to be a JOKE!!!!!!!!
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licketysplit wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 07:52 AM
1SGRock, I am one of those former Sheriff's office employees that just didn't feel comfortable doing what was asked of me, such as dealing with minors whose parents couldn't deal with them so they brought them to the jail for someone to wave a magic wand and make their kid behave.
There were far too many youngsters working in that place who felt that once they put that badge on they were invincible and that badge covered their butts.
I do not miss the Judge Dredd-like atmosphere there at all.
arizonagirl wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 10:30 AM
First, I want to applaud C. Steele for being bold enough to report the truth.
I have had conversations with this reporter in the past about articles she has written which seemed very one sided - tilted towards the Sherrif's office.
During those conversations, much to her surprise, she found that some of the information she had been given by the 'authorities', and actually printed, was not all factual. SURPRISE SURPRISE!
I encouraged her to be a 'fair and equitable' reporter, not to just report what she was told by the authorities, as the whole truth.
For far too long, those who have reported on crime/police issues have reported only what they were told by the 'authorities'....it is such a relief that finally there is a reporter in Calhoun County who wants the truth and not just what the 'authorities' want printed.
C. Steele, do not let these bullies scare you. If the truth be known, they are scared of you. They are not comfortable being in the presence of 'honest' people who demand the truth!
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Boy's mother sues sheriff over incident in videotape (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12640454/article-Boy-s-mother-sues-sheriff-over-incident-in-videotape?)
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Apr 05, 2011
ANNISTON, Ala. (AP) — A woman has filed a federal lawsuit claiming her 14-year-old son was roughed up by Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson in a jailhouse incident that was captured on videotape.
Stacy Brown sued Tuesday claiming the sheriff mistreated her son, who she had enrolled in a "scared straight" program after he got in trouble at school. He was at the jail to learn a lesson.
The lawsuit claims a jail officer threatened to kill Brown's son and called him a racial slur before he was taken into a small room where a video surveillance camera was running. The suit says it was inside that room that Amerson manhandled the boy, who was seated on a bench in handcuffs and shackles.
Amerson says the FBI is reviewing the tape at his request.
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Do you know if this program accepts out of state referrals and what they charge? There could possibly be a margin in there somewhere. Do you have contact information for the program director?
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Do you know if this program accepts out of state referrals and what they charge? There could possibly be a margin in there somewhere. Do you have contact information for the program director?
This appears to be a community based "Scared Straight" program, Mr. Kahn, called "Success Academy." It's run by an organization called Family Links, Inc. (http://http://www.familylinksonline.org/)
The Executive Director of Family Links is Lyndsey Gillam, MS, LBSW, LPC. You can contact her directly via her email address: [email protected] ...or the program itself via specs on their Contact Us (http://http://www.familylinksonline.org/contactus.html) page.
I could be wrong 'bout this, but I was under the impression that the federal government is no longer interested in supporting "Scared Straight" programs. They don't work. Some studies have even shown that they backfire. By use of the word "supporting," I'm referring to the reliance on federal funds.
Interestingly enough, Family Links, Inc. is funded in part (http://http://www.familylinksonline.org/aboutus.html) by the Governor's Office of Faith-Based Community Initiatives and the ADECA Governor's Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools. Clearly, Alabama seems to feel differently than the federal government.
I wonder... does Alabama's Governor's Office of Faith-Based Community Initiatives and/or ADECA Governor's Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools receive any federal funding? Or are these purely state funded initiatives?
Family Links, Inc. is also funded in part by AmeriCorps, which *IS*, most assuredly, a federal agency.
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Thank you, Ursus! That is great information. Many programs with which I work are supported by taxpayers via the largesse of the federal government. That usually means a healthy margin for people in my line of work can be found.
I could potentially refer dozens of at-risk children to this wonderful program and collect my fees straight from the government, thusly saving the hard-working parents' dime. This could work out for everyone! I'm going to contact Lyndsey right away. Thanks again for the lead!
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Thank you, Ursus! That is great information. Many programs with which I work are supported by taxpayers via the largesse of the federal government. That usually means a healthy margin for people in my line of work can be found.
I could potentially refer dozens of at-risk children to this wonderful program and collect my fees straight from the government, thusly saving the hard-working parents' dime. This could work out for everyone! I'm going to contact Lyndsey right away. Thanks again for the lead!
It appears that you misread me, Mr. Kahn. This is decidedly a local program. The kids spend the day at the Calhoun County Jail, doing menial chores and whatnot, and go back home at night.
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another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:03 PM
another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:33 PM »
Somewhere I read in the Bible, BE SURE YOUR SINS WILL FIND YOU OUT, and another one, WHATSOEVER A MAN SOWETH, THAT SHALL HE ALSO REAP. What about, the golden rule, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU? One thing that bothers me about the sheriff bragging about his christianity. I have always been of the opinion that a true Christian does not have go around wearing his religious belief on his sleeve or bragging about how good he/she is. Another bothersome thing, if the sheriff is such a great family man, where was his families at the press conference? Where was his pastor and church members? Where were all the deputies who work for him? I think these are fair comments and I hope the Anniston Star will not delete them. The sheriff is a public servant and has to answer to the citizens. This sitution is far from being over.
Read more: Anniston Star - Amerson says he asked for FBI investigation
honestgovernment wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:05 PM
I would be willing to bet this woman plays the race card even though the Sheriff was going above and beyond his normal duties to try to get this kid to change his actions so he doesn't become a Life long customer of the jail system. You just can't help some folks.
As for Mrs Brown, when your kid robs or kills someone and gets a big sentence, YOU are the one to blame.
mommyto3 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:05 PM
The kid was 14! Wow..it just gets worse and worse for Amerson. I don't blame the mother. When she signed up for the program, she didn't sign up for her child to be threatened and assaulted. I would sue ..sue..and sue! I would make sure they never did this to another child again.
another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:09 PM
cvaldez wrote on Sunday, Apr 03 at 01:13 AM »
Amerson,well the Lord is there and the truth shall be revealed. Wade you are next. The Lord is God. Let the truth be known.
report abuse
Read more: Anniston Star - FBI confirms preliminary investigation of Amerson
Jesus_Hates_Sinners wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:09 PM
« arizonagirl wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 07:26 PM »
I have two interesting observations:
One - Where is 'Honestgovernment' and his posts on this forum - on this subject? Interesting that he/she always has something to say to blast anyone who disagrees with law enforcement in this town.
Two - Am I the only one reading these posts who honestly believes that the FBI is an unbiased and honorable 'independent and appropirate' group to be investigating its own?
The type of behavior that goes on in the sherrifs office is anything but professional and appropriate.
Amerson blatantly abused a juvinile and he should be placed in an orange and white jumpsuit with hands and feet shackeled and placed in the very jail where he committed this crime.
another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:13 PM
« luvinmylife wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 01:06 PM »
Your sheriff didnt ask for the FBI to come here snooping into the way he operates his jail,the man is still lying!!!!His actions will never be justified in my opinion.He was caught in the act of abusing a child.Theres no telling what all this man has done to break the law that we havent seen.Why should the star be served with a warrant??What goes on at that county jail should be an open book especially if they are going to have minors there.You all that defend this man need to look past your prejudice beleifs and see this for what it is,abuse of force on a minor.My parents used a switch and belt to my backside a few times but they never choked me,slammed me against a wall nor grabbed on me like a ragdoll.If this boys parents would of done this they would be in jail so why is it that the sheriff shouldnt have to be made accountable for the actions that he took?How was this child a threat to him when this boys hands and feet were restrained??
Read more: Anniston Star - Amerson says he asked for FBI investigation
another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:16 PM
« luvinmylife wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 01:06 PM »
Your sheriff didnt ask for the FBI to come here snooping into the way he operates his jail,the man is still lying!!!!His actions will never be justified in my opinion.He was caught in the act of abusing a child.Theres no telling what all this man has done to break the law that we havent seen.Why should the star be served with a warrant??What goes on at that county jail should be an open book especially if they are going to have minors there.You all that defend this man need to look past your prejudice beleifs and see this for what it is,abuse of force on a minor.My parents used a switch and belt to my backside a few times but they never choked me,slammed me against a wall nor grabbed on me like a ragdoll.If this boys parents would of done this they would be in jail so why is it that the sheriff shouldnt have to be made accountable for the actions that he took?How was this child a threat to him when this boys hands and feet were restrained??
Read more: Anniston Star - Amerson says he asked for FBI investigation
another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:19 PM
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another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:22 PM
Lets hope this is not the kind of mentality that exists in Calhoun County. I realize there are a lot of "skinheads" and KKK and some of them serve on jurors. By the comments some of the folks are making on this issue, makes one believe there are a lot of racists in our area.
nonews wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:31 PM
Yes sue that is the answer..that will make your son behave!! Try parenting...that would work much better! Just sayin!
[email protected] wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:36 PM
I am not surprised that the mother is filing a lawsuit.
I am totally embarrassed over Sheriff Amerson's actions. He is a disgrace to the citizens of Anniston!
nonews wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:40 PM
WOW...justhetruth, you are nothing of the truth!! Jeez...some of you need a hobby!! Where do you get this bullcrap you are making up??
honestgovernment wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:50 PM
justhetruth, this comment has nothing to do with Amerson as I don't know his personal circumstances. You stated that folks can't be a deacon if divorced.
Let me ask you one question that might give you something to consider. I agree with your understanding of Timothy but what about this? IF a man is unsaved and divorces his wife, then years later is burdned by the spirit and gets saved, is he a new man in Christ? Is he free to remarry? Is he now eligible to be a deacon since he is a new man in Christ?
I would never presume to speak for God but I do lean to the idea that this one exception may have biblical backing. The great thing is that I am sure my Master will tell me right quick if I was right or wrong when he calls me home.
take care
luvinmylife wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:54 PM
Good for you,Ms.Brown!!!Its about time somebody took a stand against the adults we trust to take of our children.Im sorry that your son suffered abuse of this nature.I can only imagine how hurt and confused you must feel but rest assure that he will one day have to stand accountable for his actions.Continue being the strong woman you are,please dont blame yourself...We as mothers only want what is best for our children and you were right to think this program would help him.Continue to pray while all of us that sympathize for you pray for you all.
jville wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:54 PM
Ok...so a 14 year old youth gets into trouble. The parent places the youth in a program designed to help youth understand where a life of crime leads. The illegal video shows a youth being pushed on the shoulder. Thoese are the only facts known at this time. The parent, who places the youth in this program is convienced that the youth was abused.......go call the lawyer. This is so so so predictable.
This is not about race, there was no abuse.
The so called newspaper is the criminal in this. They are the ones that deserved to be sued.
jville wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 08:58 PM
One other thing....all of you whom are judging the sheriff for his life style and his actions is this issue.
Well maybe you should removed the log from your own eye first.
Steven1l2 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:08 PM
This is rediculous. Sherrif Amerson is a good Sherrif and a better man. The boy was being scared straight!!!! I'd much rather have an incorrigible youth treated in the fashion he was treated then go down the wrong path in life. Whatever the outcome is, this youth will have benefit in the long run.
catbird572 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:23 PM
Those who are saying that Sheriff Amerson is not a Christian, that he 'is a disgrace to the citizens of Anniston', and the ones who are trying to mask their using of the 'race card' need to look at themselves first, and decide whether or not the same could be said about themselves. Only the Sheriff and Our Lord And Saviour Jesus Christ know the man's heart, and you don't have to look hard to see the Anniston City Clowncil is a disgrace to her citizens, and to those who are playing the worn-out race card, you probably don't agree with nonews in the fact that PARENTING probably would have prevented the 'kid' from being at the jail in the first place. Filing a lawsuit is going to do nothing to help straighten the young man out. Sheriff Amerson, Chief Deputy Wade, and the entire Sheriff's Dept. have a gargantuan task at hand every day in this drug infested county maintaining law and order as it is, and they DON'T have to try to help steer young people in the right direction before they become a burden to those of us who pay taxes by becoming a lifelong member of the criminal justice/penal system. They are trying to fill the gap left open by inept parents. If the Sheriff is such a bad person, then why has he been re-elected, what, 4 times? Count your Blessings that we have such a man as the 'top Cop' here in Calhoun County.
justhetruth wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:28 PM
All of you who are taking up for the sheriff and jumping on others for speaking out about his christian life, he is the one who brought it up. I believe the Bible tells us to fret not thyself from evildoers, for they soon shall be cut down and wither. The sheriff is about to wither. Like another person who has commented, I wonder why his pastor has not spoken up or his family. Maybe they know that there are numerous folks who really know the truth about the sheriff. As far as the Anniston Star being the criminal, I applaud them for running the story. If Sheriff Amerson is above board, then he will be exonarated. If not, he could wind up in his own jail and fined millions of dollars. Just maybe it is time for all of US to step back and let this sitution play out through the legal process. Our opinion is not really worth anything because we don't know what the real truth is. Only the Sheriff, the 14year old and God. If the sheriff is lying and continues to lie, and gets away with the way he has treated this young man, the sheriff will have to face a just God who will not be swayed by public opinion. Isn't this refreshing.
John5299 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 09:33 PM
I had nothing to do with Watergate", "I did not have sex with that woman", "What we have here is a failure to communicate". Does Amerson fit in here?
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msmimi wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 10:24 PM
So not surprised to read that this 'mother' is now sueing the person she placed her son in custody of, to be SCARED straight. With that type of character mother, this boy is destined to go far in life. Crying foul all the way. On seeing the boy was black and Amerson white, it was a matter of hours before the race card would be brought into play. Is that deck ever going to be used up???? UGG! Will we ever move forward or forever live in the 60's. Sheriff Amerson you are a credit to your position, and have NOTHING to regret. You have served this county well and we are better for it.
Gannon99 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 10:27 PM
Another1gone, your and idiot, and you don't know what you are talking about!!!! And why try to throw Wade into this? He wasn't in the video!!! He hasnt done anything in this issue except not answer anyone's questions. He so has my vote for Sheriff next election, because he helps out so much around the county, and is nice to everyone, and goes above and beyond to help those in need
another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 10:40 PM
Gannon99, speaking of stupid, I have more knowledge about Amerson than most in this county. I could write a book. As far as Chief Deputy Wade, please share with all the folks where I have mentioned him. I think Mr. Wade is one of the finest law enforcement officer anywhere. He is helpful and returns phone calls. I think he would make an excellent sheriff when ther becomes a vacancy. You need to make sure your brain is in gear before running your mouth.
another1gone wrote on Tuesday, Apr 05 at 10:43 PM
Gannon99, I believe if you will go back and check the comments,you will find that a cvaldez is the one making comments about Mr. Wade. I guess you got so excited, you got blindsided. Diahrreha of the mouth will cause this also. Take a dose of pepto bismol and go to bed. You will be o.k. tomorrow.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 01:17 AM
The mother has every right to file a lawsuit, as this is America by God, where we can file a lawsuit for hot coffee.
Let's see--Ms. Steele and the Star received stolen property, published a video with the visible face of a minor who is protected under law, made damning unresearched accusations against an elected law enforcement officer, and singlehandedly provoked a racially motivated civil rights "march" that culminated with the mother of this juvenile filing a lawsuit. I wonder if they went out for drinks to celebrate?
Can we all see how this would have turned out differently had the Star not stirred the pot?
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark, and it is not the foul stench of the Chocolocco Treatment Plant.
impeachamerson wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 11:04 AM
Well I am glad the Mother filed the law suit to expose what kind of person Larry Amerson really is. I hope the next headline about this in the Anniston Star reads "Sheriff Amerson Indicted by Federal Grand Jury" followed by "Roy Snead Jr. Appointed Sheriff by Gov. Bentley". Larry Amerson has been a disgrace to the Sheriff's Office since day one.
jthomas1979 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 12:10 PM
Everything would have went alot smoother if they would have given him cupcakes and a Xbox while he spent his day at the jail.... That would have shown him how to straighten up.
Guest3406191kn wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 06:59 PM
Not a lot of difference between this and Rodney King, except this was a minor and chained, cuffed and shackled before the beating.
justnotright wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 07:39 PM
Here,here, Impartial,my sentiments exactly.Maybe it was an inside job.They agreed ahead of time to split the money.
justnotright wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 07:47 PM
Once again,there was no beating.If you see some kind of licks being thrown,you're delusional.I guess some people see what they want to see.Nothing here but dollars,no story.
Jimmy_Jo_Johnson wrote on Sunday, Apr 10 at 10:21 AM
"Not a lot of difference between this and Rodney King"
Really? Maybe when this kid becomes a man he will remember and act on the values his Mother is currently displaying. He can go out and find him a "Reginal Denny" and stick it to the man. Rodney King was out drunk, driving and resisting arrest. If anyone is out drinking and driving, they are inviting law enforcment into their life and are disregarding the lifes and safety of others. If you then resist arrest the police just might use force, but remember, Rodney King invited the police into his life when he made a choice to drink and drive.
Lets now talk about another beating that took place after the Rodney King verdict was read. Reginal Denny was trying to earn a living driving a concrete truck. The young thugs who beat Reginal,threw bricks at his head and then did a touchdown dance in celebration are the kind of people Sheriff Amerson was trying to prevent this young man from becoming. But you all go ahead victimize him, tell him that he should stick it to the man any time he can. Tell him society and "the man" owes him a living. Tell him he should sue any time he can. And when he cant sue, tell him to start robbing and stealing because "the man" is out to get him. Tell him its "the white mans" fault that his choices have put him in a cage "like an animal". Then when he has children he can demonstrate the same type of behavior to his kids and it can keep going and going.
redbone21 wrote on Monday, Apr 11 at 03:53 PM
policeman always abuse their authority every chance they get. as you can see amerson didnt put his hands on him until the other officers left
Edwardh wrote on Monday, Apr 11 at 07:55 PM
Every time a black child is abused by the system, some of you blame the child and subsequently put him and his family on trial. Abuse is abuse, if this kid were white you people would be demanding the sheriff's head. instead some fool is talking about Rodney King. Grow up and become a real American, and if this kid were my mind I would file criminal charges against this idiot Sheriff
hillbilly7722 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 12 at 11:44 PM
to Redbone
You said, "policeman always abuse their authority every chance they get. as you can see amerson didnt put his hands on him until the other officers left"
If that were the case why would he care whether or not any of the others were in the room? You said the police always abuse their authority, so why would one cop care whether the others were there or not? I am a police officer, white I may add, and I am not racist, nor do I abuse my authority. I do my job, and like most cops, I do it well. Don't make broad statements that you can't back up.
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2 sides of Amerson story (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12640697/article-2-sides-of-Amerson-story?)
by our readers · Anniston Star
Apr 06, 2011
The publicity of Cahoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson's use of manual force on a male juvenile is unnecessary and serves no useful purpose, especially since it is based on a short video clip.
No reason has been given and no evidence has been presented as to what prompted it. Do we expect our law enforcement to stand by and be insulted, even spit on, and not retaliate? They are only human, and all of us reach a breaking point.
What has appeared in the press so far has not been positive for the sheriff, but we have not heard the "rest of the story." In fact, all we know at this point is what we have seen on the video. I suspect many of us of the older generation have suffered more at the end of a peach-tree switch when we were growing up than this juvenile did at the hands of the sheriff.
The Star frequently criticizes the actions of the Anniston City Council, and when it does, it usually has the facts. In the Amerson case, The Star apparently has no facts other than a short video. Could The Star not have presented what it received to the proper authorities for investigation? That would let them determine if the action was justified before putting out opinions and speculations that have cast a darker shadow on a community that needs some sunshine on its reputation.
Thomas Bryant
Weaver
Amerson didn't hurt anyone
Re "Unjustifiable behavior: Incident deserves proper attention" (Editorial, April 1):
Whoever wrote this editorial should be ashamed. The video of Sheriff Larry Amerson with the juvenile in no way showed unacceptable action.
This boy would not have been there if his parents had not brought him because they could not handle him. They wanted him helped, which is precisely what the sheriff was attempting to do.
It is obvious that he was trying his best to talk to the boy, but the boy was having no part of it and turned away to keep from listening. The sheriff was only trying to make him listen.
Anyone who thinks the sheriff should have said, "OK, sweetheart, but please try to be a better boy," is lacking. He didn't hurt the boy, he only tried to make him listen.
Joel Hendon
Piedmont
Don't defend the sheriff
Calhoun County residents should be outraged at the actions of Sheriff Larry Amerson. No matter the age, race or crime, his actions sure look criminal. Just imagine that it was your child. It's odd that no one of authority seems to care. People who have not even seen the video are defending the sheriff. He says that it's not what it looks like. Well, seeing is believing.
Tyrone Lindsey
Anniston
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cfreese1977 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 05:23 AM
By leaking the tape someone inside the Calhoun Calhoun County Jail wants the Sheriff gone.
LorettaNall wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 06:10 AM
Didn't do anything wrong, huh? I guess you think it is ok for the Sheriff to be running an ILLEGAL Scared Straight program then? What other illegal activities is it ok for the Sheriff to engage in? He needs to be removed from office/step down and then be prosecuted for assault and for operating a program that is illegal under both federal and state law.
And Kudos to the Star for getting this information out to the public. If a parent shackled the hands and feet of a child and then assaulted them it would be a serious crime. Why is there such a double standard when those who we pay to enforce the law are caught breaking it?
SoYouSay wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:43 AM
Personally I wished this program was in effect about 10 years ago. To make a long story short property was stolen by a relative. DID NOT do the community service and was a adult but got the plea of youthful offender. went to jail in the county and was beaten up by the 2 big boys(so it says). other family members went to judge and got a bond and got him out. he was never punished for his actions and to this day it thinks everyone owes it because everyone has always gotten it out of trouble what ever it shall be. I believe that you have to take what is coming to you for your illegal actions. maybe if he was punished for what it does it will not be in the shape it is in today. I believe that everyone should regardless of age be punished some how for their illegal actions regardless of offense if they know they have broken the law. SHOULD BE PUT UP A mid age jail or prison? we have a juniville jail,(which is not strick enough, a big people jail.(now they cant be in contact with them) UP TO 12 in juville and 12-18 in mid age and regardless of crime 18 and up in JAIL. or let us parents have our control back and place at belt back on the hindends and DHR but out. We need to take control back and get this generation straight for crime will be going to the mad max days. last words.......keep your kids away from BAD people. get Backgrounds checks. TIME FOR YOU TO TAKE CONTROL.
downindixie wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:56 PM
All right,just everybody settled down! This is true,if your haven't lived in this type of enviroment,shut up! I was a former police officer and I know this. This type of situation happens a lot.We read about it happening all the time. I know Mr.Amerson personally and believe he is a very good man,but good men mess up all the time.We know it,we read it in the news,T.V.radio,and the internet.
You know what a good idea would be,sit back,relax and enjoy your family! and let the investigation begin.
justnotright wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:04 PM
I said the same thing on the other article and got hammered for it.I'm with D.I.D.,sit back and watch the fiasco that ensues.
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Thank you, Ursus! That is great information. Many programs with which I work are supported by taxpayers via the largesse of the federal government. That usually means a healthy margin for people in my line of work can be found.
I could potentially refer dozens of at-risk children to this wonderful program and collect my fees straight from the government, thusly saving the hard-working parents' dime. This could work out for everyone! I'm going to contact Lyndsey right away. Thanks again for the lead!
It appears that you misread me, Mr. Kahn. This is decidedly a local program. The kids spend the day at the Calhoun County Jail, doing menial chores and whatnot, and go back home at night.
We have a solution to that, Ursus. We call them "host families". Problem solved!
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Thank you, Ursus! That is great information. Many programs with which I work are supported by taxpayers via the largesse of the federal government. That usually means a healthy margin for people in my line of work can be found.
I could potentially refer dozens of at-risk children to this wonderful program and collect my fees straight from the government, thusly saving the hard-working parents' dime. This could work out for everyone! I'm going to contact Lyndsey right away. Thanks again for the lead!
It appears that you misread me, Mr. Kahn. This is decidedly a local program. The kids spend the day at the Calhoun County Jail, doing menial chores and whatnot, and go back home at night.
We have a solution to that, Ursus. We call them "host families". Problem solved!
Funny that you should bring that up, Mr. Kahn...
The climate in Calhoun County leading up to the implementation of this "Scared Straight" program was apparently, to paraphrase, one of great frustration with the "increasingly incorrigible youth of today." According to at least one article that I came across, Calhoun County parents at the end of their rope began resorting to calling up the local police dept., and having an officer come over to talk some sense to Junior.
There are several on this forum who believe one of the great contributing factors in the genesis of Straight, Inc. to have been the consolidation and subsequent organization of just such parental frustration. Supported, of course, by local law enforcement and anti-drug abuse organizations (kinda like certain entities on the funder list (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&start=15#p400225) for Family Links, Inc., which runs "Success Academy" for Calhoun County).
Straight, Inc. also made use of "host homes."
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Moving right along...
The Calhoun County Sheriff's Office may claim it's not a "Scared Straight" program, but it sure sounds like one to me!
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by Cameron Steele · [email protected] · Anniston Star
Apr 06, 2011
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A Calhoun County Sheriff's Office program for youthful offenders and suspended-from-school teenagers to work in the county jail sounds remarkably similar to programs banned by federal and state law, officials and child advocates say.
Those programs, commonly called "scared straight" or "shock incarceration" programs, became popular in the 1970s as a way to scare or shock youthful offenders or juveniles prone to misbehaving into more appropriate behavior, a policy expert at the Washington D.C.-based Coalition for Juvenile Justice said.
But a range of state and national juvenile-justice officials said that years of research have proven the scared straight concept to be in error; those same officials say that such programs are violations of the federal and Alabama laws, which prohibit youthful offenders from being detained or confined in adult corrections facilities.
And all of those officials say the description of a Calhoun County program jointly run by the Sheriff's Office and Family Links, Inc., a children's behavior task force for the county, falls under the umbrella of those legally questionable programs.
The program has come under scrutiny since The Anniston Star published a video last week that shows Sheriff Larry Amerson using manual force against a boy in a jail jumpsuit. A lawsuit filed Tuesday by the boy's mother claims he was at the jail as part of a scared-straight program.
The sheriff's office says the program doesn't qualify as a scared-straight program and says it's a way for children to perform community service when they might otherwise be unsupervised.
Only a few details of the program have been made available to the public. But child advocates say it sounds like a scared-straight program.
"This (Calhoun County) jail program, while well-intentioned, I wouldn't spend my money on it," said Linda Tilly, the executive director of Voices for Alabama's Children, a state children's advocacy group. "It wouldn't have much impact in changing behavior... This (Calhoun County) program sounds like it has the same intent without going quite as far as most scared straight programs did. The point to me is this program doesn't get to the root of the behavior in the first place."
Tara Andrews, the deputy director of the national nonprofit agency Coalition for Juvenile Justice, said the Calhoun County program might not be as hardcore as some scared straight programs, but said its operations are still questionable.
"It may not be as extreme in that the young person isn't being turned over to the custody of the prisoners, but you don't have all the details so you don't really know what happens, or what goes on," Andrews said. "I would label it a scared straight program. The goal is to frighten the young person; it's negative reinforcement."
Sheriff's Office: Not a scared straight program
Multiple attempts to reach Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson, Chief Deputy Mathew Wade and Family Links Director Lyndsey Gillam to discuss the details of the jail program were unsuccessful Tuesday.
But a news release posted on the Sheriff's Office website Monday stated the juvenile jail program was not a scared straight program but, instead, 'an opportunity for community service."
"The program is intended to give parents an alternative to having their children unsupervised while out on suspension. The activities will be structured in an environment that will educate the student about responsibility, respect and discipline under the direct supervision of a corrections officer," the release said. "The child will be required to perform manual labor tasks such as cutting grass and cleaning."
The release also noted that juveniles who participate in the program do not have direct contact with inmates, one of the main issues juvenile justice officials have with scared straight programs in general.
Other than the release, Amerson and Gillam have provided scant details about the juvenile jail program, except to say in interviews with The Star last week, that the Sheriff's Office and Family Links began the program as a way to let high-risk kids see what jail might be like.
But that kind of reasoning is exactly what Andrews is talking about.
"That's what makes it a scared straight program: 'let me show you what prison life looks like to scare you away from prison life,' " Andrews said.
Anthony Petrosino, a senior researcher at a Massachusetts nonprofit dedicated to researching and children's education and development, has spent much of his career studying scared straight programs.
"If we were doing a review of these programs now, we would include this (Calhoun County) program as a juvenile awareness program that attempts to deter them (juveniles) or scare them," Petrosino said.
How the Calhoun County program works
Juvenile justice officials say that the details the sheriff has provided about the way the jail program is structured indicate the program may be in violation of federal and state law.
Parents sign a waiver for their children to arrive at the jail at 8 a.m. and to be picked up by 3:30 p.m. While at the jail, the juveniles dress in orange-striped inmate jumpsuits, eat the food that is served to the inmates and perform menial labor tasks under the supervision of jail officers, Amerson has said.
Gillam noted last week the program was only for students who have been suspended from school or youthful offenders who have been ordered by the court to attend the Success Academy, which is a Family Links service program.
Parents of youthful offenders who act violently at the Success Academy or threaten violence are given options.
The juvenile's probation officer can be contacted and he or she might have to face a family judge in court again, or the parents can sign a waiver and allow their children to participate in the jail program as "kind of our last step" before having to go back to juvenile court, Gillam has said.
Juvenile justice officials question program legality
What bothers most juvenile justice officials about those descriptions of the program is that the federal Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act (JJPDA) expressly prohibits youthful offenders from having any sort of sight or sound contact with inmates.
Furthermore, the Alabama Juvenile Justice Act restricts children under public authority — like the ones who are Success Academy students — from being "in secure custody in a secure section of a jail, lockup or correctional facility for adults as a disposition of an offense or as a means of modifying his or her behavior."
"If the child is under public authority, if they take kids in and handcuff to them any sort of unmovable object, that's a violation (of federal and Alabama law). If they lock them in anywhere, if they (the children) are behind any locked door, that's a violation," said Joe Vignati, the coordinator for the Governor's Office of Children and Families in Georgia.
Basically any sight or sound contact, "meaning the juveniles can be seen or heard by adult inmates," are violations of federal law, Vignati and Andrews said.
And the waiver the Sheriff's Office has parents sign does not "relieve the violations of the JJPDA act," Vignati said.
Details about where exactly in the jail juveniles work, how long the program has operated, how many juveniles have participated in it and how much it costs to run the program are unclear. Requests to provide The Star with paperwork that document the procedures and history of the jail program went unanswered Monday and Tuesday.
Alabama Department of Corrections spokesman Brian Corbett said it is DOC policy not to allow youthful offenders to even tour state prisons, because that would be a violation of the Alabama Juvenile Justice Act.
'Different developmentally and physically'
Officials point out that localities or states in violation of the federal law could stand to lose federal funding through U.S. Department of Justice grants.
"Folks take this (federal law) and get emotional about it, but realistically we have two separate systems: we recognize that kids are different from adults," Vignati said. "The reason isn't to mollycoddle kids or to be soft on kids; the reason is to recognize they are different developmentally and physically from adults."
And scared straight programs don't pay enough attention to that difference, juvenile-justice officials say.
"Juveniles who went through scared straight, and similar types of programs like it, committed more new delinquent offenses than the juveniles not exposed to the program," Petrosino said of a 2003 review he and other scholars conducted on the effects of scared straight programs.
Petrosino said the information available about the Calhoun County program indicating that it isn't technically a scared straight program is inaccurate.
"This sounds like they've toned down on the language, but it's interesting, they've increased the experience of incarceration...putting kids in the inmate clothes, working around the jail," he said.
Contact Star Staff Cameron Steele at 256-235-3562.
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LorettaNall wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 05:50 AM
My, my,, my, my, my..........So the sheriffs office is operating an illegal program involving juveniles? Had a friend ask around about Family Links Inc. and learned that they got a lot of their funding from Bob Riley's "faith based' nonsense programs and ADECA. Did the sheriff's office profit from this in any way? Funny how the person in charge of enforcing the law is breaking the law with this program. When you look at the video it looks sort of like the good sheriff is trying to mount that kid. Seriously........
jville wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:34 AM
lorettanail, you should apply for a job with the star. Your writting style is exactly like what they print, TRASH!!!!
You mush not have been happy with your living arrangement in the county jail.
LorettaNall wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 10:23 AM
jville...I take your intended slight as a compliment. It just so happens that I think the Star is the best paper in this state and working for them would be an honor. So, thank you.
As for the rest of your comment...hehehe...I've never been in the Calhoun county jail son. Why are you of the mindset that everyone who disagrees with your opinion on this is a criminal or a criminal sympathizer? Perhaps some of us care about the standards that law enforcement, who we pay through taxes, are held to. They don't get to break the law while enforcing those same laws on the rest of us. Allowing such a thing would lead to a police state. If you like the idea of living in a place where the people tasked with enforcing the law are not required to follow it themselves I can make some suggestions of where you would fit in and be happy.
arizonagirl wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 10:31 AM
jville: why is it that when the media reports something positive about the law enforcement agencies in this area, you say they are practicing 'fair and balanced' journalism.
BUT, when the media reports the truth / the absolute honest facts about the corruption in the law enforcement agencies in this area, in this case the Calhoun County Sherrifs Office, you call it trash?
You and your biased opinons are neither fair nor balanced and you make yourself look unbalanced!
ImpartialTruth wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 10:37 AM
Cameron--this should have been the FIRST story published. The video never should have made it to the paper.
It seems like you intended to enact positive change in the juvenile justice system, and I have no issue with that. But from an ethical standpoint, you could have enacted change by starting with this story, and putting the pieces together from there. Fanning the flames of racial division does nothing useful for our society.
You have lost my confidence as a fair and balanced reporter.
John5299 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:17 PM
"I have been in the editorial business going on fourteen years, and it is the first time I ever heard of a man's having to know anything in order to edit a newspaper." Mark Twain
nonhyphenatedAmerican wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:40 PM
For anyone who thinks the Star is the best "paper" in the state , you must be smoking something ! LOL
tugboat2 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:42 PM
What jail have you been carried to? I know but just had to ask
tugboat2 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:45 PM
i mean Loretta what jail have you been carried to?
luvinmylife wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 01:31 PM
I considered sending my child through this program if and when she was suspended from school.I called the sheriff office to learn more about the program and was told they would be picking up trash and things of that nature.I was not told that they would be interacting with adult inmates period.I was not told that if she acted out she would be placed in handcuffs and shackles and be abused.I wonder why,lol!!!Anybody with any sense knows that violence is not the answer.The sheriff and the deputies involved acted irresposible and for their actions they have to be held accountable.The very ones that we entrust to ensure our safety violated this childs rights.PERIOD.By the way,keep up the great work Ms.Steele...thank you for keeping us loving,devoted,caring,taxpaying,nonviolent and never been to jail parents informed.We as parents have the right to know when our children are being abused.We as parents have to devote our lives to making sure our children know right from wrong.If his mom thought it was ok for him to be suspended why whould she care that he was home alone??She cared so much that she dropped him off to the one place he should of been safe going to....what a disgrace for a program that I even once thought might benefit some of our "not perfect teens"...
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Here's what is currently on the Family Links site as a descriptive for Success Academy; seems kinda vague, if you ask me....
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Family Links, Inc. - Success Academy (http://http://www.familylinksonline.org/success.html)
Through cooperation with the Juvenile Court of Calhoun County, and funding through the Department of Youth Services (DYS), Family Links has developed the Success Academy. The purpose of the Academy is to provide an educational and therapeutic safety net to prevent juvenile offenders from being committed to the Department of Youth Services custody.
Youth ages 13-18 are referred by Juvenile Court.
The program includes academic remediation and school credit recovery for those youth too young to be eligible for a GED. Any youth eligible for a GED who choose to return to school may be eligible for a diploma. Each student is assigned a laptop computer to be used in class. GED classes are coordinated with Gadsden State Community College. The course of instruction includes Math, English/Literature, Science, and Social Studies, with various other classes offered, including physical education, health, keyboarding, basic computer applications, filmmaking, and community service.
The Calhoun/Cleburne Mental Health Center provides individual and group counseling.
The Academy operates on a ten month school schedule, meeting the local school systems' schedule of 202 academic days per calendar year. The basic structure will be ten weeks on and two weeks off, providing students and staff with rejuvenation breaks, while not allowing too long a time lapse for students to have to "re-learn" what they have already been taught.
The court will require parents to attend Parent Project classes, which is a ten week program to teach parents better methods of dealing with resistant children.
256.820.5911 - P.O. Box 5072 McClellan, AL 36205
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More details about the lawsuit emerge (link to online copy of lawsuit in article)...
Check out the below still from that video. The 14-year-old kid is handcuffed, shackled, and had his head turned away from the sheriff just prior to the sheriff getting on top of him like that. I guess Sheriff Amerson didn't feel he was being given an appreciative enough reception, eh?
Think that kid will be "scared straight?" Lol. They'll be lucky if he doesn't grow up to be a law-enforcement-hating vigilante.
Video on YouTube: post (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&start=15#p400217) containing links
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The Anniston Star · Alabama
Suit describes verbal, physical threats against boy before encounter with sheriff (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12655420/article-Suit-describes-verbal--physical-threats-against-boy-before-encounter-with-sheriff?)
by Cameron Steele · [email protected] · Anniston Star
Apr 06, 2011
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An Anniston woman alleges in a federal lawsuit that a Calhoun County deputy and jail officers verbally and physically threatened her 14-year-old son in the hours before Sheriff Larry Amerson used manual force on him while the boy was shackled and handcuffed.
Stacy Brown filed a civil rights lawsuit against Amerson and a deputy – identified only as "Deputy Ward" – in the U.S. District Court for Northern Alabama in Birmingham.
The suit stems from the day that Brown's son – identified only as J.B. – spent at the jail on Feb. 4 as part of a "scared straight" program for teenagers who've been suspended from school or others who've committed minor crimes and are under the jurisdiction of the juvenile courts.
A video obtained and published by The Star last week shows part of an encounter between the boy and Amerson that day; in the video, Amerson is seen grabbing and holding down a boy dressed in an orange-striped jumpsuit. The boy, whom the suit identifies as J.B., is shackled and has his hands cuffed behind his back during the incident.
"The Sheriff obviously did not fear for his safety or for the safety of others. At the time Sheriff Amerson grabbed him by the neck the first time to choke him, J.B. was turned and leaning away from the Sheriff in fear of what the Sheriff would do to him," the suit states. "J.B. was very nervous and scared, while the Sheriff was very calm and deliberate before the violence ensued."
The suit also states that J.B. asked Amerson to unchain him and "fight like a man."
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Brown is seeking $500,000 each in compensatory damages for what the suit calls violations of her son's civil rights, as well as $500,000 each in punitive damages against Amerson and Ward.
The lawsuit says Ward and the other officers used racial slurs to address J.B. and threatened violence.
Contacted by The Star this morning, Brown said she could not comment on her son's case.
Reached Wednesday Peyton Faulk, the Montgomery attorney representing Brown, said she had no official comment on the case at this time.
Attempts to reach Amerson this morning for comment on the suit have been unsuccessful.
The program under which the boy was present at the jail, as described in the suit, seems to run counter to a state law that bars such scared-straight programs. Experts in juvenile justice have told The Star that federal law also bars such programs, and that children are not to come in contact with jail or prison inmates. The suit describes contact between J.B. and inmates at the jail.
When J.B. said he was going to "call my momma," Ward and jail officers continued to make threats of violence, and one officer attempted to push J.B. to the ground, the suit states.
The suit says that after Ward made a negative statement about J.B.'s mother, J.B. was offended. "I do not give a damn who you are, if you say one more thing about my mom, we are gonna have a serious problem," the suit quotes J.B. as saying.
The suit also said J.B. "had his right first balled up at his side" and "his face in his left hand."
A jail officer asked if J.B. planned to try to beat him up and said if J.B. did, he would be placed in a cell with an adult inmate J.B. had spoken to earlier in the day, the suit alleges.
When J.B. began to direct swear words at the officer, the suit says, the officers handcuffed him, put him in a locked room and left him there for a time between one and two hours.
That's when Amerson came into the room to talk to J.B., the suit alleges.
"That is the point where the assault was captured on video," the suit states.
Later on, the suit claims that "J.B. suffered extensive physical injury, including, but not limited to, bruising around his neck and ears."
The suit states that Amerson has brought charges of criminal mischief and harassment against J.B.
Together, Amerson and Ward face four counts in the suit: use of excessive force, failure to prevent violations of J.B.'s rights, conspiracy to violate J.B.'s rights and violation of the boy's Fourteenth Amendment rights to due process. Amerson also is accused of deliberate indifference to protection of the boy's rights.
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Text of the Complaint of that lawsuit follows below...
Also: alternate link (http://http://issuu.com/consolidatedpublishing/docs/amersoncomplaint?mode=embed&viewMode=presentation&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true) for viewing (Complaint of said) lawsuit (Adobe Flash Player)
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FILED
2011 Apr-05 PM 01:29
U.S. DISTRICT COURT
N.D. OF ALABAMA
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHEASTERN DISTRICT OF ALABAMA
EASTERN DIVISION
J.B., a minor, who sues by and through his mother and next friend,
STACY BROWN,
Plaintiff,
v.
SHERIFF LARRY AMERSON, in his official and individual capacities, and
DEPUTY WARD, in his official and individual capacities,
Defendants.
JURY TRIAL DEMANDED[/list][/b]
COMPLAINT
COMES NOW Plaintiff, by and through his attorneys of record, and would show unto the Court as follows:
JURISDICTION and VENUE[/list]
1. Plaintiff files this Complaint and invokes the jurisdiction of this Court under and by virtue of the Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, 42 U.S.C. § 1983, 42 U.S.C. § 1985, 42 U.S.C. § 1986, 42 U.S.C. § 1988, 28 U.S.C. § 1331, 28 U.S.C. § 1343, 28 U.S.C. § 2201, 28 U.S.C. § 2202, and the doctrine of supplemental jurisdiction to obtain declaratory relief, and compensatory and punitive damages. Defendants violated Plaintiff's rights as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States and by Federal law.
2. The violations of Plaintiff's rights as alleged herein occurred in Calhoun County, Alabama, and were committed with the Eastern Division of the Northern District of the State of Alabama.
PARTIES[/list]
3. Plaintiff J.B. is a minor child, 14 years of age, and is and at all times material hereto was a citizen of the United States and the State of Alabama. He sues by and through his mother and next friend, Stacy Brown (hereinafter, "Brown").
4. Defendant Sheriff Larry Amerson (hereinafter, "Sheriff Amerson"), a better denomination of whom is presently unknown to Plaintiff, is a natural person believed to be over the age of 19 years, is or was at all times material hereto an agent, employee, officer or Sheriff of Calhoun County, Alabama, and is a person whose conduct proximately and directly harmed Plaintiff.
5. Defendant Deputy Ward (hereinafter, "Ward"), a better denomination of whom is presently unknown to Plaintiff, is a natural person believed to be over the age of 19 years, is or was at all times material hereto an employee, officer or agent of the Sheriff of Calhoun County, Alabama, and is a person whose conduct proximately and directly harmed Plaintiff.
NATURE OF PROCEEDINGS[/list]
6. This is a proceeding declaring the relative rights, responsibilities and liabilities of the parties, each to the other, and for compensatory and punitive damages for Plaintiff's suffering as a consequence of the wrongs alleged herein.
FACTS[/list]
7. Plaintiff expressly adopts as if fully set forth herein the allegations in the foregoing paragraphs.
8. After getting into some trouble at school, J.B. was voluntarily enrolled by his mother, Stacy Brown, in the Calhoun County Sheriff's Department's "scared straight" program for troubled teens.
9. On or about February 4, 2011, Ms. Brown dropped J.B. off for his first day of the community service program.
10. About two hours after getting to the Calhoun County Jail, J.B. and another child were taken on a tour of the facility. During the tour they walked by the laundry room and the three guards leading the tour told the children to stop.
11. The guards then spoke to the inmates and asked the inmates if they wanted some little boys in there with them. The inmates said, "yes". One of the inmates stated, while pointing at J.B., "I want that little black one right there."
12. J.B. then asked Officer Ward if he could leave that area. Ward then took J.B. down to the corner and told him to face the wall. J.B. turned toward the wall, while facing the wall, he turned his head and scratched his face. Officer Ward told him to turn his face back to the wall. J.B. said he turned back around, he says he had an itch on his face again and turned his head to scratched it. Officer Ward then said to J.B., "you are going to do what I tell you to do." Officer Ward threatened, "I will slit your throat, cut your balls off, shove them down your throat, and stomp you until you bleed."
13. Officer Ward's leg was shaking because he was so angry. Officer Ward told J.B. to go to the front office and do push ups. J.B. was taken to the front office by another officer. Upon getting to the front office he was asked why he was sent there. J.B. told them (a woman and a man) what happened. J.B. sat there until lunch.
14. J.B. and the other child ate lunch and they took them on the rest of the tour where they spoke to an inmate named Douglas. While they were talking to Douglas, Officer Ward tapped J.B. on the shoulder and said, "If you tell on me again, see what happens." J.B. told him, "what you are going to put me up in the office again?"
15. Officer Ward stated "What are you going to do?" J.B. replied "I am going to call my momma." J.B. and Officer Ward exchanged words back and forth. Officer Ward said, "let's go call your mom."
16. They were walking in a corridor and when they got to a door, Officer Ward said to another officer, "do not let him out that door." Four officers (Names Unknown) then surrounded him and another officer (Name Unknown) said, "I just want some one to beat this nigger up."
17. J.B. then told the officer, "why don't you do it." That officer then took his belt and threw it to the side. He then got in J.B.'s face and started pushing him. J.B. squared his legs up to be able to handle the pushing without falling and when the officer tried to push him again he put his arms up in a cross like manner to protect himself and pushed back.
18. J.B. stated, "all of yall are dirty cops, and I am calling my mom and I am suing y'all." Officer Ward then said, "look here nigger, I do not give a damn if your mom is dirty." J.B. then stated, "hold on right there, before you say anything else, I do not give a damn who you are, if you say one more thing about my mom, we are gonna have a serious problem."
19. The officer said, "What? you gonna hit me in the face?" J.B. had his right fist balled up at his side and his face in his left hand. When J.B. moved his hand out of his face and looked up [at] the officer, the officer was already in his face. The officer said, "Do it and I will put you in there with Douglas."
20. J.B. began cussing at the officer. They handcuffed J.B. and put him in a room which he resisted after he was threatened with being locked up with an inmate. J.B. asked to call his mom. He was in the room for a long time, between one and two hours.
21. Sheriff Amerson came into the room. That is the point where the assault was captured on video. The video clearly shows Sheriff Amerson assaulting J.B., a 14 year old in handcuffs placed behind his back and shackles. Force may not be used gratuitously or as punishment. Any such use of force is unlawful.
22. Sheriff Amerson's attitude toward use of excessive violence is clear in the video as well. The Sheriff sat closely to the handcuffed and shackled 14 year old Plaintiff. The Sheriff sat relaxed, with his legs crossed toward the child, leaning toward him with his arm around him. The Sheriff obviously did not fear for his safety or for the safety of others.
23. At the time Sheriff Amerson grabbed him by the neck the first time to choke him, J.B. was turned and leaning away from the Sheriff in fear of what the Sheriff would do to him.
24. After the first round of choking, Sheriff Amerson continued to sit closely to J.B. with his arm around him. J.B. was very nervous and scared, while the Sheriff was very calm and deliberate before the video ensued. A short time later, a second assault on J.B. occurred.
25. J.B. was a child participating in a community service program for troubled teens, not an inmate, though such use of force against an inmate would be unlawful as well under the circumstances.
26. J.B. told Sheriff Amerson, "[y]ou are doing all this to me while I am locked up. I bet you will not take this off and go outside with me. You are sitting up here hitting me while I am chained up, why don't you take them off and let's go outside in the hall way and fight me like a man." Amerson unhooked him and while they were walking out the door, Amerson grabbed J.B. by his uniform. J.B. slipped away. When they got in the hallway, the Sheriff got in J.B.'s face.
27. The other officers surrounded and handcuffed J.B. They took him to another room, removed the handcuffs, and closed the door. Douglas, and two other inmates, were outside the door off to the side. When he saw the officer get his radio, believing that they were going to send the inmates in the room where he was, J.B. flipped the table, picked up the chair and began to hit the window.
28. After that an officer came in the room and removed the table and chairs. After they left, he began to pull the wires on the wall. Officers came back into the room and took J.B. back to the other room. J.B. waited there until he was transported to Juvenile Probation office.
29. J.B. was transported to the Coosa Valley Juvenile Detention Facility where officers there took pictures of J.B.'s injuries. The officers there also took J.B.'s complaint about his treatment at the Calhoun County Jail. His mother was also notified of the allegations against the Sheriff and Deputies, and of J.B.'s physical injuries.
30. Sheriff Amerson, in an effort to cover up his own misconduct, brought charges of criminal mischief and harassment against J.B.
31. While on the stand in juvenile court regarding the charges against J.B., the Sheriff falsified the facts about what happened to J.B. at the Calhoun County Jail.
32. On or about February 4, 2011, without warrant, probable cause, consent, or justification of any sort, Defendants Amerson and Ward, officers, agents, or employees of defendant City and officers, agents, or employees of the Sheriff of Calhoun County, believed to be sheriff and deputy sheriff, and acting within the line and scope of their authority and pursuant to the policy of the Sheriff respectively, assaulted and battered J.B.
33. J.B. suffered extensive physical injury, including, but not limited to, bruising around his neck and ears.
34. Any gratuitous act of violence on the part of law enforcement officials is never lawful and should never be tolerated. These officers have put on display their own disrespect for the law that they are sworn to enforce.
35. Qualified immunity offers complete protection for government officials sued in their individual capacities if their conduct "does not violate clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known." Harlow v. Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 800, 818 (1982).
36. Any reasonable law enforcement officer knows or should know that repeated pushing, hitting, and choking a child who is secured and in handcuffs and shackles constitutes unreasonable and excessive force in violation of Plaintiff's rights under the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution.
37. It is clearly established that "[p]olice use of excessive force is a constitutional violation" under the Fourth Amendment. McKinney v. DeKalb County 997 F.2d 1440, 1443 (11th Cir. 1993).
38. He was caused to suffer severe physical damage, apprehension, fear, and anxiety. He has suffered great and severe emotional distress and mental anguish which continues to this day.
39. The use of force by Defendants placed J.B. in imminent fear for his life.
40. The amount of force utilized was unreasonable and unrelated to any legitimate governmental purpose.
41. There existed no justification for the use of force by the Defendants.
42. J.B. was damaged in that he suffered physical pain and injury and great and severe emotional distress and mental anguish. He also suffered embarrassment, humiliation, loss of enjoyment of life.
43. Defendants, at all times material hereto, were acting under color of law.
CAUSES OF ACTION[/list]
44. As to each of the counts herein below set forth, Plaintiff expressly adopts as if fully set forth herein the allegations of the foregoing paragraphs.
COUNT I — EXCESSIVE FORCE[/list]
45. At all times material hereto, Defendants, or each or all of them, were acting as law enforcement officers pursuant to state statute and the ordinances, customs, and policies of Calhoun County.
46. Plaintiff had a right to be free from the use of excessive and unreasonable force.
47. It is apodictic that the use of any force against a person who is handcuffed and secured is wrong and that any such force used is unreasonable and excessive.
48. The aforementioned rights were clearly established at the time of the conduct giving rise to the claims herein.
49. Any reasonable officer knows or should know that the aforementioned rights were clearly established at the time of the conduct giving rise to the claims herein.
50. Defendants, each or all of them, violated each of the rights set forth above by repeatedly pushing, hitting, and choking a 14 year old who was in handcuffs and shackles.
51. Defendants, each or all of them, used excessive and unreasonable force against Plaintiff as described above.
52. Plaintiff's rights under the Fourth Amendment were thus impermissibly abridged and violated.
53. Plaintiff was assaulted and battered, suffered serious physical damage as described above, and suffered great and severe emotional distress and mental anguish.
COUNT II — FAILURE TO PREVENT VIOLATION OF RIGHTS[/list]
54. At all times material hereto, Defendants, or each or all of them, were acting as law enforcement officers pursuant to state statute and the ordinances, customs, and policies of Calhoun County.
55. Plaintiff had a right to be free from the use of excessive and unreasonable force.
56. The Eleventh Circuit has stated that "[ i]t is not necessary that a police officer actually participate in the use of excessive force in order to be held liable under section 1983. Rather, an officer who is present at the scene and who fails to take reasonable steps to protect the victim of another officer's used of excessive force, can be held liable for his nonfeasance." Fundiller v. City of Cooper City, 777 F. 2d 1436, 1441-42 (11th Cir.1985).
57. Each and every law enforcement officer at incident at the time and on the date in question had knowledge that Plaintiff's civil rights were being violated and had the power to prevent or aid in preventing the wrongful acts made the subject of the violations.
58. The individual Defendants who knew of the Defendants' wrongful conduct but failed or refused to prevent it or aid in preventing it are liable to the Plaintiff for the damages he suffered.
59. Plaintiff was damaged as otherwise described herein.
COUNT III — CONSPIRACY TO VIOLATE CIVIL RIGHTS[/list]
60. Pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3), it is unlawful to enter into a conspiracy to deprive any person of the rights and privileges of a citizen.
61. The Fourth Amendment to the constitution secures to Plaintiff — and all citizens — the right to be free from the use of excessive and unreasonable force.
62. The aforementioned right was clearly established at the time of the conduct herein complained of.
63. Defendants, officers and deputies, acting in concert with each other, and each and all of them, confederated and conspired to deprive Plaintiff of the rights set forth above, in violation of 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3).
64. Defendants, officer and deputies, acting in concert with each other, and each and all of them, confederated and conspired to deprive Plaintiff of the rights set forth above, in violation of 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3).
65. Plaintiff has been damaged thereby as herein recited.
COUNT IV — 42 U.S.C. § 1983 — FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT[/list]
66. At all times material hereto, Defendants, or each or all of them, were acting as law enforcement officers pursuant to state statute and the ordinances, customs, and policies of Calhoun County.
67. Plaintiff had a protectable Fourteenth Amendment substantive due process right to bodily integrity as against government intrusion.
68. The aforementioned right was clearly established at the time of the conduct giving rise to the claims herein.
69. Any reasonable officer knows or should know that the aforementioned right was clearly established at the time of the conduct giving rise to the claims herein.
70. Defendants violated Plaintiff's Fourteenth Amendment substantive due process rights to bodily integrity when they repeatedly pushed, hit, and choked Plaintiff while he was restrained.
71. Defendants' conduct was facilitated by their position as State actors.
72. Plaintiff has been injured thereby.
COUNT V — DELIBERATE INDIFFERENCE[/list]
73. At all times relevant hereto, Sheriff Amerson was acting as the Sheriff of Calhoun County, Alabama, and pursuant to the ordinances, customs and policies of Calhoun County.
74. Sheriff Amerson's actions deprived Plaintiff of rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States.
75. As stated hereinabove, Sheriff Amerson established and maintained a policy to employ deputies and set the standard and condoned the conduct by participating with, training/supervising, and by retaining officers who were so clearly guilty of misconduct.
76. More specifically, Sheriff Amerson intentionally sought out and employed deputies with the propensity for excessive violence.
77. Sheriff Amerson acted with deliberate indifference to the risk that a violation of Plaintiff's Fourth Amendment constitutional right to be free from excessive force would be abridged.
78. Moreover, Sheriff Amerson not only condoned the deputies' use of excessive violence but participated in the use of excessive violence himself.
79. In fact, as described herein, Plaintiff's Fourteenth Amendment right to be free from excessive force was vilolated as a direct result of Sheriff Amerson's policy to employ deputies prone to use excessive violence.
80. Any reasonable law enforcement officer knows or should know that deliberate indifference in the hiring and implementation of policies to employ deputies, as stated hereinabove, is violative of Plaintiff's federally protected rights.
81. Plaintiff has been damaged thereby, as set forth hereinabove.
PRAYER FOR RELIEF[/list]
WHEREFORE, THE PREMISES CONSIDERED, Plaintiff prays for relief as follows:
a) Enter a declaratory judgment that the policies and practices complained of herein are unlawful and violative of the Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution, as addressed by and through 42 USC.A §§ 1983, 1985, and 1986;
b) Grant Compensatory damages in favor of Plaintiff as against each Defendant of $500,000;
c) Grant Punitive damages to Plaintiff against each Defendant in the amount of $500,000;
d) Grant Plaintiff the cost of this action including reasonable attorneys' fees; and
e) Grant as to Plaintiff such other, further and different relief as this Court may deem just and proper, including all equitable relief, the awarding of which is within the jurisdiction of the Court.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED on this the 5th day of April, 2011.
PLAINTIFF DEMANDS TRIAL BY JURY.
/s/ E. PeytonFaulk
E. Peyton Faulk (FAU013)
/s/ Anthony B. Bush
Anthony B. Bush (BUS028)
Bush & Faulk, PLLC
Montgomery, Alabama 36104
334-263-7733 (voice)
334-832-4390 (fax)
[email protected] (http://mailto:[email protected])
Attorneys for Plaintiff[/list][/list]
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE[/list]
I hereby certify that on the 5th day of April, 2011, I electronically filed the foregoing with the Clerk of the Court using the CM/ECF system which will send notification of such filing to the following parties or counsel:
Unknown
/s/ E. Peyton Faulk
Of Counsel
/s/ Anthony B. Bush
Of Counsel[/list][/list]
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Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12655420/article-Suit-describes-verbal--physical-threats-against-boy-before-encounter-with-sheriff?) left for the above article, "Suit describes verbal, physical threats against boy before encounter with sheriff (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=400877#p400757)" (by Cameron Steele; Apr 06, 2011; The Anniston Star), #s 1-20:
ImpartialTruth wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 11:43 AM
So now we are at the point of a multi-million dollar lawsuit? So that's the price of asking the system to discipline your child, and having a cow when they do?
Where is this boy's father? Why is it that so many of these cases involve an absent father?
werewolf905 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 11:49 AM
This is such a crock. This juvenile was at the jail for a reason. He wanted to act like an adult by doing what ever he did to get there and thinks that because he is a juvenile nothing can happen to him. That is what is wrong with kids today. They know that they can do anything and the court system will let them off with a slap on the wrist. If it was my child and this happened, I would tell the sheriff thank you for setting him straight. Little smart mouth juveniles need to learn that when you do something to get in trouble that there are consequences. And as I said, even if it was my child I would say great job sheriff. This kid did not suffer "extensive injuries" as the article said. Kids get more bumps and bruises than that playing football, baseball, etc. Great job sheriff and keep up the good work.
MichelleMyBelle wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 11:51 AM
This lawsuit is ridiculous- Seriously? An 'unknown officer' used a racial slur, to which this kid says he's going to sue over. Is everyone too blind to see that this REEKS of a set-up? We are going to get our panties all in a was over "racial slurs"? Because NO ONE has EVER said anything deragatory about another race in anger... I can guarantee whe he gets older and lands in "Big Boy Jail" it will be a LOT worse. If Mama had done her job at home this kid wouldn't have been there in the first place, but I guess he'd have called DHR on her- again, assuming this isn't all a set up. Of COURSE he is innocent and there is nothing about the spitting that took place, just his foul mouth and the fact that he was about to clock the deputy. As far as the whole "I have an itch" issue- YOU ARE IN A JAIL- they TELL YOU when you can scratch that itch. It's the same with the military, but folks are going ape-poo over that fact. And since when can you choke someone with one hand? Looks to me that the sheriff took his chin in his hands to MAKE him look at him. I see parents do this to TODDLERS all the time... Better watch out mom and dad- kid gonna grow up and call an attorney for you "brutalizing"them. This is stupid- just go ahead and shut the program down and let the little punks get shot when they go committing a crime, get back to a little "law of the land".
Read more: Anniston Star - View the lawsuit filed against Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson
s.s. wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 11:53 AM
omgah im sooo sick of seeing stuff about this story. that kid did something to diserve being "jerked" and im sure he made all of that CRAP up in those papers. its just him being a stupid kid that needs to be straightened up buy his parents but no his parents see it as getting some money and quit working i really do hope it all comes back and that stupid kid gets in a LOT of trouble for making crap up!!!
hitechredneck77 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:00 PM
I do find it interesting the timing of all this. The Wonderful Anniston Star gets the video; then we have a ton of public outcry for or against it. Then, magically mom shows up with a lawsuit. Timing is everything in our world, isn't it?
Imnotbflat wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:18 PM
I'm like the rest of you out there that don't know why the boy was there...I don't care..When people who are supose to uphold the law start breaking the law ..you ..we ..have a problem..Law enforcements job is to apprehend..NOT PUNISH..leave that to the courts..
Is what I'm watching supose to be a considered standard proceedure?
tugboat2 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:26 PM
« MichelleMyBelle, You told it like it is! The dad may be out of the picture because he is in prison, or shot dead committing a crime. Mama more than likely doesn't work and on public assistance. This punk is showing their raising. Amerson should be given a medal honoring him for trying to straighten these thugs out before someone does kill them.
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luvinmylife wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:44 PM
WOW!!Everyone is hush-hush about the very programs they recommended to parents.If this kid was so out of control why not place him in a room and call the juvenile authorities to come pick him up.These "adults" took it upon themselves to act like a bunch of "billy bads" with a kid!!!Please stop missing the point(all of you that think the sheriff was right)..there are teenagers that act out and disrespect adults so thats when we as adults have to act responsible and mature enough to say "talk all the time you need and when you calm down and you are ready to talk and listen..i will be waiting.I care about you and I will do what I can to help you." Do you remember preaching that John Garlick??...that is the approach that Family Links teaches parents when dealing with a disruptive child.The adults that work at the jail are not above the law,they are wrong for handling this child the way they did.Ok,the boy was acting out...exactly if he was the "perfect child" he would of never been at the jail going through this process.He came down there to do community service and be supervised while he wasnt in school.He was not there to be called racial slurs and be scared by some adult inmates picking and taunting.They picked on a defenseless kid and got him mad then they abused their authority by using physical force to handle a restrained kid.WOW!!!So what they were mad,and??They still do not have the right to do what they did to this 14 year old child!!!!!!!!!!
s.s. wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:50 PM
all you out there supporting this stupid punk are more than likely stupid thugs yourself
ImpartialTruth wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 12:51 PM
Michelle, you are so right! If he was banged up and bruised he has to show proof of the abuse. I highly doubt there's proof. Since this apparently happened in February, why wasn't the lawsuit filed then? I'm thinking this lawsuit is a direct result of the video leak.
The failure to name names reminds me of the Auburn HBO crap....guys coming out with all kinds of claims yet refuse to name names. Why the heck not? Because it's a big stinking lie.
I mean, I could claim some police officers jumped me and started beating the crap out of me and calling me racial slurs, but unless I have proof, I'm the boy who cried wolf. How did this turn into a lawsuit? Because the Star made it so. I'm done commenting on this crap. Y'all have a good day.
Crestien wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 01:01 PM
Amerson can't do this. The law is the law. You don't get to just break it whenever you "feel" it's appropriate. If this should be allowed, then it would be the law. Yes, the kid is probably a delinquent that deserves jail or worse, but that doesn't remove his rights.
What if someone thought you were an idiot, not to be given the right of free speech? What if a principal "feels" it's appropriate to teach all of your children from the Koran because he believes it?
It's not about feelings or your personal opinion. It's about the law. Amerson broke it. Period.
mommyto3 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 01:30 PM
Anyone that reads this lawsuit and still defends Amerson is a total idiot! This man and other deputies put this boy through hell. What right do they have to call him names, threaten to put him in a cell with an adult male (which is a total violation of the Juvenile law), beat on him, etc? These are supposed to be people we count on to uphold our laws, and they are monsters. I am so ashamed of their behavior, and I hope they remove them from their jobs as well as sue them for everything they are worth. We have three children, and I can guarantee you that if something like this happened to my child..there would be hell to pay. I do not care what happened at that jail..what these cops did was totally inappropriate and abusive. The law is the law. They are NOT above it!
licketysplit wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 01:56 PM
Here's the thing: Amerson violated Alabama Criminal Code re: physical force however, whomever took the tape and anonymously submitted it to the Star should have submitted it to the ABI first because it is of a juvenile. Check AL Code 12-15-135. Amerson will skate without getting in any more hot water.
His public cred is crippled now and so will his chances of re-election.
Score another point for local politicians and send the little people to the penalty box for opening their mouths. I'm pretty sure when Amerson finds out who submitted that tape, their kiester will be charbroiled on Amerson's grill behind his house.
I have heard Amerson say before that he is "the law" and he would totally throw any of his staff under the bus if they got caught doing something. I guess you would have to work for him to truly appreciate his underhandedness. Judging by some of your comments, not many of you have ever worked for him, hence your idolization of the man.
Anyone protesting him and calling for him to be removed from office? No citizens wanting to take back their county? No???
user71 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 02:53 PM
Just another perfect example of The Anniston Star and their poor attempt for a Witch Hunt. My heart goes out to the law enforcement men and women in our country. The punks and thugs they have to deal with is a shame. It all starts at home and if parents would be parents and deal with their own children instead of depending on outside help to discipline their children this would not be an issue. This is just another punk kid and their bad behavior being defended by the parents who should have punished their own kid. DISCIPLINE!!!!! IT STARTS AT HOME!!!!!!
A racial slur...that makes me laugh are they going to sue every rap star out there making racial slurs or is it not called racial slurs when they do?
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trustme wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 03:25 PM
If I were the sheriff, I'd file criminal assualt charges against the punk. If I were to spit on a law enforcement officer that's what I'd be charged with.
mommyto3: I'm sure this was a perfect little angel. If that punk had spit on my, he would be having oral surgery now.
skalag wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 03:31 PM
I got married at 17 to get away from my abusive father. We had 2 boys. I expected their father to help me raise them but I guess someone forgot to tell him. Point is, I raised those boys by myself. One stays in trouble all the time, one works and takes care of his family. They are in their 40's and not my responsibility anymore, they are completely responsible for their actions. The thing is that I was on welfare just long enough to finish my education and have worked since I was 22 to take care of these boys. My ex-husband never supported us, before or after the divorce. He is not in jail, he lives a very good life that does not include any of the children he has fathered. So everyone out there needs to know that not all women go on welfare and have kids to make money. My point is that the people who are blaming this woman for the way her child acts or acted has no idea what her situation is. Our generation (60's and 70's) decided that children could not be punished. So parents cannot punish their children without fear of arrest. They end up in the DHR system because someone who does not have anything else to do calls DHR. Now the children are in the system and the mom can't do anything about it. One of my son's has been in trouble with the police for years, but not before he got married and moved away from home. The other holds a steady job and takes care of his children. So I consider myself lucky because I had a 50% success rate. It is hard to raise children alone but when they reach a certain age they will decide for themselves which way to go. Children need to be disciplined but "time out to think about what you have done" is not effective.
That all being said, and I am sure to get some terrible feedback from it, I still cannot condone what Amerson did to this child. If we as adults cannot find a decent way to discipline children and parents are forced to look for help because they are at the end of their rope and not allowed to punish them because someone will call the police or DHR, they should at least be sure the program is safe. This was not a safe program. I don't know anything about the program and if I had needed a program back then I probably would have been the one to fall for it.
It does not matter how the tape got to the Star. The deed is done and now the mess has to be cleaned up. One thing is for sure, someone knew that something terrible is going on at the Sheriffs Department. Everyone can talk about not knowing the full story, how he is a "christian", how he would not do this, but the fact is that he DID do it. That cannot be explained away. He hurt that boy. And I cannot say what the boy deserved because I don't know what he has been doing, but I do know that our public officials should NEVER choke a child for any reason. If Amerson got spit on, so what. He's washable, go home and take a bath. Now everyone is talking about this, the whole country knows about it and the investigation had better be a good one with no hanky panky to save someone's butt, because the whole country is watching.
HowWordHues wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 03:32 PM
I just gotta ask this.
Wonder if Gene Rutledge is her Attorney?
skalag wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 03:37 PM
I got married at 17 to get away from my abusive father. We had 2 boys. I expected their father to help me raise them but I guess someone forgot to tell him. Point is, I raised those boys by myself. One stays in trouble all the time, one works and takes care of his family. They are in their 40's and not my responsibility anymore, they are completely responsible for their actions. The thing is that I was on welfare just long enough to finish my education and have worked since I was 22 to take care of these boys. My ex-husband never supported us, before or after the divorce. He is not in jail, he lives a very good life that does not include any of the children he has fathered. So everyone out there needs to know that not all women go on welfare and have kids to make money. My point is that the people who are blaming this woman for the way her child acts or acted has no idea what her situation is. Our generation (60's and 70's) decided that children could not be punished. So parents cannot punish their children without fear of arrest. They end up in the DHR system because someone who does not have anything else to do calls DHR. Now the children are in the system and the mom can't do anything about it. One of my son's has been in trouble with the police for years, but not before he got married and moved away from home. The other holds a steady job and takes care of his children. So I consider myself lucky because I had a 50% success rate. It is hard to raise children alone but when they reach a certain age they will decide for themselves which way to go. Children need to be disciplined but "time out to think about what you have done" is not effective.
That all being said, and I am sure to get some terrible feedback from it, I still cannot condone what Amerson did to this child. If we as adults cannot find a decent way to discipline children and parents are forced to look for help because they are at the end of their rope and not allowed to punish them because someone will call the police or DHR, they should at least be sure the program is safe. This was not a safe program. I don't know anything about the program and if I had needed a program back then I probably would have been the one to fall for it.
It does not matter how the tape got to the Star. The deed is done and now the mess has to be cleaned up. One thing is for sure, someone knew that something terrible is going on at the Sheriffs Department. Everyone can talk about not knowing the full story, how he is a "christian", how he would not do this, but the fact is that he DID do it. That cannot be explained away. He hurt that boy. And I cannot say what the boy deserved because I don't know what he has been doing, but I do know that our public officials should NEVER choke a child for any reason. If Amerson got spit on, so what. He's washable, go home and take a bath. Now everyone is talking about this, the whole country knows about it and the investigation had better be a good one with no hanky panky to save someone's butt, because the whole country is watching.
skalag wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 03:42 PM
Sorry about the double posting. Don't know how to get it off so just ignore.
user71 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 03:55 PM
It does not matter how poor a person is there is no excuse for not disciplining your child and discipline not only starts at home it begins at an early age. We don't wait until the are teenagers or out of control to start and yes parents are responsible for their children's behavior while they are living at home. Once a child is old enough to move out on their own they are responsible for their on actions. This mother is responsible for the discipline of her child and it does not matter if she is single or not that is a cop out excuse. I know women who have raised their children on their own and have raised upstanding young adults. And "skalag" have you ever had a person spit at you? That is probably one of the worst insults to a person and unless you have you can not say what you would do in that situation. Try sitting down with a police officer just once and find out what they really have to deal with and you might have a change of heart. It is a shame what our society has become.
People are feeling sorry for the "child" but realize if you are going to act like a big boy doing big boy stuff then put your big boy britches on deal with the consequences.
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planeman wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 04:13 PM
The law is the law the sheriff broke the law why does people not understand that once you have someone detained and in lock down you cannot use force against them would you want to be done like this what if you were innocence and all you stupid people out there that are siding with this man go back to school or move into some third world country.
usthetruth wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 04:30 PM
HowWordHues
I just gotta ask this.
Wonder if Gene Rutledge is her Attorney?
HowWord, the lawyers names are:
E. Peyton Faulk and Anthony B. Bush and both are from Montgomery........
skalag wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 04:39 PM
user71, I worked at a police department for one summer, many years ago. It was a real eye opener for me and it looks like nothing has really changed. There are three side to this story and the third one has not come out yet. Maybe we should just wait to see what that third side is.
skalag wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 04:43 PM
user71 I have already worked with a police department, one summer, many years ago. Lets just say it was an interesting experience that I never want to have again. Does not look like much has changed. There are three sides to this story, the third has not come out yet. You will probably be as amazed as I was all those years ago.
user71 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 05:11 PM
skalag you worked at the police department but where you beating the street "with" the police and witnessed them being spit at, hit at and cussed at and threatened that if they so much touch them they would sue? There is just to much of this nonsense liberal bull going on and it just needs to be stopped. The liberals have made it just to easy for someone who gets their feelings hurt to sue!
John5299 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 06:29 PM
user71, I will ask you the same question. Where have you beat the street "with" the police and witnessed them being spit at, hit at and cussed at and threatened that if they so much touch them they would sue? If you have, kudos to you. However, if you haven't, you have no right to doubt what "skalag" had to say.
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ohlawdy wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:01 PM
This matter isn't about the supposed sorry state of parenting, the behavior of punk kids, or a heroic sheriff trying to right society's wrongs. This matter is about a professional law enforcement officer committing a crime and violating the rights of a citizen.
The victim's age isn't important. Amerson would have been just as guilty of police brutality if the victim had been an adult.
I was a law enforcement officer for 28 years. I have seen officers suspended, fired, and/or sued for exactly the kind of thing the sheriff did to a fully restrained, helpless citizen. What Sheriff Amerson did was wrong, plain and simple. His inexcusable actions violated not only the law, but the standards of our profession. I hope that my fellow citizens don't think that the members of the Calhoun County law enforcement community support Sheriff Amerson in this situation. For the most part, they condemn him, even if they're not free to say so.
Law enforcement officers are expected to exercise self-control when confronted with difficult situations. Losing control and abusing a person like Sheriff Amerson did shames all who wear the shield. Sheriff Amerson's cowardly behavior since the assault shames him and all who support his barbaric act.
prettyeyez wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:08 PM
To all of you who are defending the Sheriff...the point is-what this man did clearly is not justified. Didn't your parents ever teach you that unless you walk a mile in someone's shoes, you can't begin to relate to the person in despair, whom in this case is the 14 year old child. What if this was your 14 year old son, you all would have a different perspective, wouldn't you? What if this happened to be your son (regardless of why he was there and his background) shackled and handcuffed, choked, all while listening to these people who are supposed to serve and protect, slander his mother of all people... you all act so ignorant to the fact, and you know the fact still remains, there is NO justification for what this man did! So they say he spit on him, yet there's no proof of that. But I tell you, there is proof of the Sheriff violating this individual's rights. WE can clearly see that. For some adults to say that this is right, my God, there must be a missing link somewhere in your life. As adults, we must cater to our youth (regardless of race) and teach them morals and the difference between right and wrong. If we continue to let matters like this keep being swept under the rug, then we have no need for law enforcement. Someone has to take a stand, and I must oblige that Ms. Brown has gotten off to a good start.
downindixie wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:24 PM
Ohlawdy as a former police officer I back your comments one hundred percent!
prettyeyez wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:27 PM
Also, I am so sick of people talking about where this child's father is! It has nothing to do with his father! I know plenty of people who have one or both parents absent in their lives yet they still managed to become productive members of society (doctors, lawyers, and so on). So that little tidbit is irrelevant! Law enforcement has a standard to uphold, and when it becomes a point where that standard is questionable, we are in terrible shape.
justnotright wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:34 PM
I'm sorry,purtyeyz,but i wouldn't want to walk the mile that wound up getting me chained to a chair in the county jail.Stop the hate.Can't we all just get along.I must be one with the "missing link".
John5299 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:34 PM
This is for..ohlawdy and prettyeyes. Kudos for both of you for addressing this issue. This is for...ohlawdy. I was in law enforcement for 24 years. As you know, there are bad apples in our agency's and departments. Most of the time they don't get exposed until they really screw up. In this issue, according to the video clip, Amerson screwed up and now he is wondering what is going to happen to him. You know as well as I do he is guilty as sin. We all have a conscious. Naturally, he is fighting for his position and blaming everybody for his screw up. Also, you know Wade is backing him because he knows if Amerson goes he goes. A new Sheriff will have his own Chief Deputy. Both are a disgrace to the people that are honest law enforcement personnel and the citizens of Calhoun county. I am proud you had enough integrity to write what you did. All law enforcement are for the most part...honest, loyal to their jobs and use their heart along with their heads to enforce the laws.
ohlawdy wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:37 PM
Amen,pretty eyez, preach on! And thank you, downindixie.
justnotright wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 07:52 PM
Do you have to become a criminal to get any rights?Does it not matter why he was chained to a chair to begin with?You people are unbelievable.The county is broke anyway.Whats one more frivolous lawsuit to jam up the courts and waste taxpayer dollars.They print it up out of thin air.Don't crucify the sheriff, until the FACTS, {as you call them}, come out in court.Maybe we could call a "beer summit" like Obama did.We could settle this case out of court,saving taxpayers tons of money.Even scratch all the legal fees too.Any takers???
prettyeyez wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 08:00 PM
justnotright...."Walking the mile" was not in reference to what led him to the "program" but rather what circumstances he faced when he arrived there. You see, in this life, everyone is not afforded the same opportunities, you don't know this young man's struggle, everyone is not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. While this is no excuse for downfalls, I highlight this to let you know that it isn't always easy for some as it is for others. I think you realize that; but it's just so difficult for you to think outside the box. While it is ideal for young teenagers, especially young males, to have positive role models, so many times this is not the case. Let me ask you, at 14, were you always thinking rationally. Of course not. WE had our own minds at 14, but with guidance and the right people surrounding us, we were able to learn from our mistakes, and realize what would lead us to a prosperous life ahead. Not all are that fortunate. Yes, I still say if people condone the Sheriff's behavior, they have a missing link. As adults, we should have enough decency, sense and moral standards to differentiate between right and wrong, good and bad, and so forth. We are not children, somebody has to step up and be adults here. This is the deciding factor: IF IT WAS YOUR 14 YEAR OLD, would you be so insensitive. I think not. Case closed.
prettyeyez wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 08:07 PM
Clearly going to court would be a waste of time, if it were me I would just award from the video! the facts to come out?; it is in black and white from the video, and there is simply no justification for the Sheriff's behavior! PERIOD! Trust me, if this compensation is awarded, some law enforcement should take this as a lesson learned. Law enforcement cannot do this, they have a specific duty, and it is not to violate people's rights! Why is that so difficult to understand!
prettyeyez wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 08:17 PM
Thanks John5299 and ohlawdy...the key word is accountability and no matter what position we hold, if we are wrong and it is clear the we are wrong, we must be held accountable.
Bamaprincess wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:03 PM
Only a punk would beat and jump on a defenseless person who is shackle down. You expect for a person pay for his crime so man up Sheriff!! I do not care about what this young man done that is irrelevant to this case right now. His color or parenting should not even be the issue here.!! Sheriff you are suppose to be a upright citizen what an example. Step down please!!
justnotright wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:13 PM
Who was beating?Who was jumping on?Mountain out of a molehill?How do you spell frivolous?
prettyeyez wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 10:02 PM
bamaprincess you make a valid point. No matter what we say or do, there still will be ignorance lurking amongst the crowd. Those people know that this man was wrong, it doesn't take a genious to figure it out. Some people just reap of ignorance. You can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make him drink.
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user71 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 10:23 PM
prettyeyez you are so out in left field. We cater to babies when they are unable to speak for themselves and even young children but to say as adults we must cater to young adults you either do not have children or you are the one with a missing link. I am amazed how so many people are so angry over what the sheriff did but corporal punishment is acceptable in our schools...it is "OK" to hit a child with a board including girls. Why the double standard?
Steven1l2 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 10:50 PM
I watched this video many times and I'll be honest: It's so blurry, I can't tell who the people are in it.
charsue wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 11:18 PM
Hello everyone. Does anyone know why a juvenile probation officer was not called to the scene when this juvenile started acting up? I was under the impression that they are the only ones that deal with juveniles...that's who officers call when they pick up juveniles. Seems like a big policy and rights violation. Who knows it may have turned out worse if probation officers were involved. I wonder if there are cameras in their offices...Probably should be because horror stories involving the juvenile officers have been floating around for years. I am glad she obtained an out of town attorney. I am ashamed of our Sheriff and his Dept and hope the justice system will take this case to the limit.
another1gone wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 11:38 PM
I have served as a police officer and have arrested drunks who puked on me, spit on me, cursed me etc. No I did not like it, but that is what you come in contact with some of the citizens who help pay your salary. Did I ever feel like knocking hell out of these folks? YES. Did I? No. Many of these folks were bankers, lawyers, on very prominent business man. Not what some called scum. I have had to arrest some of the most respected citzens family members. People screw up. Why? I don't know. Why did Sheriff Amerson do what he did? I don't know. But everyone has had an opportunity to have their say and only a few were on the scene and know the real truth. I agree with others. Lets just sit back and wait for the investigation to end and see the outcome. Then will be the time to speak out for or against. I just hope all the employees will speak out and tell the truth.
ImpartialTruth wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 11:58 PM
Ok folks....it is what it is. Everyone has an opinion. Does it do any good to call other people idiots?
Here's how I see it: Some of us think the Star overstepped by releasing a video that showed the face of a juvenile without investigating first. Some of us think the Star fulfilled its duty to society by breaking the video.
Some of us think what happened before and after the video matters. Some of us think the two-minute video content is the ONLY thing that matters.
Some of us think it is far too easy to sue people these days. Some of us think suing is the only option in this case. Some of us think this program is dangerous. Some of us think this program is safe.
Yet, we don't have the details of this program or any kind of testimony from other participants who went through this program, and here we are jumping to conclusions and saying hateful things on both sides.
Some of us think race is a factor. Others think race has nothing to do with it.
Some of us think the parent is to blame for not disciplining the child and depending on the system to discipline him. So, this leads some of us think the juvenile acted in a way that deserved restraint.
Others think the sheriff shouldn't have laid a hand on him, even if he spit in his face.
But the fact is, were any of us there? Do we actually know what events transpired that day? Nope.
We don’t know who leaked the video of the incident and what motivated them to do so. We don't know why this kid was suspended from school, or why he was sitting in the room handcuffed to a chair for that matter. We don't even know if the allegations in the lawsuit can be backed up by proof.
All we have is a snippet of a video with no sound, a copy of a lawsuit, a few news stories, and a handful of speculation.
Thankfully we live in a country where we are entitled to our various opinions. I respect everyone’s opinion here, but I don’t think anyone can change the outcome of this case by dissing the sheriff, the sheriff’s family, the boy, the boy’s family, or law enforcement in general.
We all have opinions, but I think the name calling and the accusations should stop. The law will determine the outcome of this unfortunate situation without our two cents.
prettyeyez wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 07:59 AM
user71....More like home plate. Children are our first priority, and yes I have two, two sons to be exact. It is our responsibility from the time our children enter the world until they are capable of taking care of themselves to cater to them and lead them in the right direction. This is a 14 year old child. NOT ADULT. 14 year olds are not adults! Either you don't have children or your missing link includes everything that your character entails. "Cater" literally means to take them under your wings, guide them and show them the right way. As parents, it is our responsibility. At least until they are 18. My boys are 8 and 6, and I wouldn't dare leave them to make adult decisions at the age of 14. Is that hard to comprehend? And this video, my friend, is so far from corporal punishment in schools. You don't put your hands on someone else's handcuffed child, regardless of what position you hold! If someone treated my children like that, I would have a problem too, and so would you.
user71 wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 11:27 AM
prettyeyez you are right that we are to lead, guide and direct our children and I never said 14 is an adult I said they are young adults. My character is not in question here, I have raised 2 very productive young ladies. Their morals and character were learned by example at home. They had positive role models that lead by example. You did not explain what you meant when you used the word cater. I think that in the messed up world we live in today so many people have taken the word out of context and they are raising a bunch of spoiled "catered" to children who think their are owed something. To many people want to cater to their child's every beckon call and choose to be their friend instead of a parent. As a parent if we do not start at a young age showing our children what is expected of them what chance do they have. Maybe this kid didn't have a positive role model in the home, we don't know the answer to that but what I do know is that our society is so messed up because we continue to make excuses for bad behavior. Consequences is part of growing up and learning from our mistakes. Most people when faced with the consequences of a bad decision they learn from it, get passed it and become a better person. Only a fool continues to behave in the same manner. You are also right that I would not be happy if someone treated my child badly but here again respect is earned and goes both ways. My girls were taught to respect authority and that bad behavior has consequences and they are theirs to face. Because of the way they were raised they have wonderful work ethics, wonderful morals and wonderful character. We raised our children with the same principles we were taught growing up and it if it worked for us it worked for them. This way of being raised wasn't taught in book or by someone outside of the family teaching right from wrong but people having standards which we a expected to live by. But again you are way off base to question my character based on my opinion and my view and I should be able to voice my opinion based on my own experiences and I should not have to defend it. My character and morals are also based on christian principles. The bible warns us of consequences due to our behavior.
prettyeyez wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 10:23 PM
user71....I didn't mean cater to our youth as to wait on them hand and foot. I am delighted to know that you have raised your children based upon Christianity and a good home example. Which is the point that I am trying to make. Your daughters are so fortunate to have been surrounded by such positive role models in their lives. Not everyone is afforded that opportunity. So let's say this 14 year old is the epitome of bad behavior, does that give the Sheriff ,or anyone else for that matter, the right to act the way he did? It does not. People seem to make excuses for the way law enforcement acts, so let me reiterate that there are no excuses for such behavior. He should not have put his hands on him AT ALL! People are going all around the ball park on this scenario, but the fact still remains, all of these other things, (bad behavior, background, parenting), does not justify the Sheriff's actions. It is clear that you have good character and I commend you for that, but right is right. Respect authority, I see your point. But let me remind you, that you have to give respect to get respect. I highly doubt that they were talking to this kid like they were SUPPOSED to. So, there's no room for respect, especially if someone is speaking about your mother in a negative aspect Sometimes, children have to be taught by others outside of the home because they don't have the same environment that your daughters were afforded. At times, it has to be that uncle, that family friend, that teacher, that coach, that cousin, and so forth. That is reality. Sure it would be nice if we could keep it home, but that is not always the case. You see, I know, because I was there before. I am now an accomplished Accountant well on my way to earning my CPA. But the road wasn't easy at home, and I can tell you that I looked for positive feedback elsewhere. The bottom line, is he was wrong for this and those consequences that the Bible speaks of, well, he will be held accountable for.
2byz wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 11:23 AM
I am sorry if I'm wrong, but what is the use of "scared striaght" if you can't use SOMETHING to scare them. It is my understanding that the mom allowed her son to be in this program because of delequent activity. RIGHT? So why are they crying about it now?
hillbilly7722 wrote on Sunday, Apr 10 at 11:55 PM
Everyone posting on here should go hang out with a cop during his shift for about a week. Answer a few calls and deal with the menaces of society. See, it is obvious to me that everyone who reads the newspaper and takes time to post on here are well-read, intelligent, and actually care about things going on in the community. Most of you would be very surprised to see how many people out there actually live on the fringes. I could write a book (and someday intend too) on that issue, but the point I am getting at is this. Be cautious to not pass judgment too quickly. This "child" was neither beaten nor berated, and even if he was, we see no evidence of that. What we do see is an adult guardian dealing with a 14 year old in an aggressive manner. I dare say that if that child's mother, father, or another guardian had taken time to discipline this child consistently over the past 14 years, then we would not talking about him today. And I am well aware that there is more to raising a child than discipline, but I would bet that most parents who care enough to discipline, also care enough to spend time with their kids teaching, praising, and preparing them to be productive citizens. Law Enforcement Officers get to see things that the rest of our society has to miss out on. I just wish that more of you knew what actually goes on in the world in which we live.
scarllett5 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 12 at 10:48 AM
hillbilly7722 The most important point you are missing here is the sheriff in this video has become part of the problem and not not part of the solution. A civilized society should expect more than violence on the part of the Chief law enforcement officer of the county regardless of the supposed sins of the youth involved. We should demand an individual capable of handling these types of situations in a manner that is both legal, honest and respectful. Violence begets violence and does nothing to promote a safe and decent community to live.
hillbilly7722 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 12 at 11:51 AM
No Scarlett, I just see it from a different point of view. I do not see him as being part of the problem, I see him doing what this kid's parents should have already done.
Saragre wrote on Wednesday, Apr 13 at 05:15 PM
The misconduct of sheriff Larry Amerson is only a drop in the bucket of the corruption in Calhoun County. Joe Hubbard's cronnies have been covering up his corruption for years. Hopefully the kids attorney will blow the lid off this dump.
hillbilly7722 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 13 at 08:55 PM
@Saragre
When something like this happens, people immediately start jumping up and down and talking about corruption. Joe Hubbard is probably one of the most fair and honest politicians I know. I am open-minded, and if you can cite specific incidents of corruption, then by all means tell us.
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Jeeezzz... Talk about timing, lol... One could easily read this as one way in which Sheriff Larry Amerson is battling the bad press he's been receiving of late... :D
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Calhoun Sheriff's narcotics unit busts 10 (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12668382/article-Calhoun-Sheriff%E2%80%99s-narcotics-unit-busts-10?)
by Patrick McCreless · [email protected] · Anniston Star
Apr 06, 2011
The Calhoun County Sheriff Office's narcotics unit cracked down on alleged drug violators Monday, arresting 10 people in the process.
The narcotics unit, spent about a month investigating the 10 individuals arrested on the various drug-related charges, according to a press release from the Sheriff's Office.
The press release there were a few suspects included in the investigation who have yet to be located and who still have active warrants for drug violations.
The investigation was just the first in a series of narcotics investigations that will be taking place during the next few months, the press release adds.
Makotrick Lanier Ball, a 32-year-old male from Anniston, was arrested and charged with distribution of a controlled Substance (bond $30,000), unlawful possession of a controlled substance (bond $5,000) and unlawful possession of drug paraphernalia (bond $500). He is being held in the Calhoun County Jail pending bond.
Michael Allen Beal, 20 of Anniston, was arrested and charged with two counts of unlawful possession of a con-trolled substance (bond $10,000 each) and unlawful possession of drug paraphernalia (bond $500
Michael Anthony Carden, 22 of Anniston, was arrested and charged with Unlawful possession of a controlled sub-stance (bond $10,000) and unlawful possession of drug paraphernalia (bond $500). He is being held in the Calhoun County Jail pending bond.
Christina Renase Emory, 43 of Anniston, was arrested and charged with attempt to commit a controlled substance crime. She was booked in the Calhoun County Jail and later released on a $2,500 bond.
Jamie William Heard, 35 of Piedmont, was arrested and charged with distribution of a controlled substance. He was booked in the Calhoun County Jail and later released on a $15,000 bond.
Samantha Leigh Reaves, 24 of Anniston, was arrested and charged with two counts of distribution of a controlled substance (bond $30,000 each). She is being held in the Calhoun County Jail pending bond.
Venetta Patrice Rives, 41 of Anniston, was arrested and charged with unlawful possession of a controlled substance (bond $15,000) and unlawful possession of marijuana first degree (bond $15,000). She was booked in the Calhoun County Jail and later released on bond.
Derick Niel Snider, 25 of Jacksonville, was arrested and charged with distribution of a controlled substance. He is being held in the Calhoun County Jail pending a $30,000 bond.
Foncell Wright, 33 of Anniston, was arrested and charged with unlawful manufacturing a controlled substance 2nd. She is being held in the Calhoun County Jail pending a $50,000 cash bond.
Jerry Dan Bragg, 42 of Jacksonville, was arrested and charged with unlawful possession of marijuana 2nd (bond $1,000) and unlawful Possession of drug paraphernalia (bond $500). He was booked in the Calhoun County Jail and later released on bond.
Sheriff Larry Amerson formed the narcotics unit last month to follow up with complaints of narcotics activity across Calhoun County.
Contact staff writer Patrick McCreless at 256-235-3561.
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Generations wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 09:42 PM
"Last Month". On the ball Sheriff. One could be cynical, I suppose...
another1gone wrote on Wednesday, Apr 06 at 11:25 PM
The timing of this press release is suspect. The sheriff nor any of his assistants will not return calls to the paper for comments about the video, but all of a sudden a press release of the number of drug busts and the task force has only been in operation for a month? WOW. This group needs to be turned loose on solving all the rapes, murders, robberies, burglaries etc. They could solve all these crimes in a few minutes. GO TEAM GO.
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Suit, former deputy say Calhoun program puts kids in contact with inmates (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12673030/article-Suit--former-deputy-say-Calhoun-program-puts-kids-in-contact-with-inmates?)
by Cameron Steele · [email protected] · Anniston Star
Apr 07, 2011
A federal civil rights lawsuit against Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson describes a jail program in which youthful offenders are brought to the Calhoun County jail for direct — and threatening — encounters with inmates.
And one retired deputy, a participant in the program, confirmed Wednesday that the program took juveniles to "where the molesters and hardened criminals were."
Both descriptions seem to fit the model of "scared straight" programs that are banned by federal and state laws.
Anniston resident Stacy Brown filed the suit against Amerson and a deputy — identified only as "Deputy Ward" — in the U.S. District Court for Northern Alabama in Birmingham Tuesday.
The suit states that on Feb. 4, Brown's son — identified only as J.B. — spent the day at the jail and was allegedly verbally and physically abused by corrections officers and was "assaulted" and "battered" by Amerson.
That suit states that J.B. was at the jail Feb. 4 to participate in what the suit called a "scared straight" program.
It describes in detail J.B.'s alleged encounter with several inmates during a tour of the jail.
Saks resident Ken Reeves, a law-enforcement officer who retired from a job as a part-time deputy in September, said he was asked to supervise juveniles in the program on a couple of different occasions in November 2009. Reeves said Sheriff's Office officials would tell him to take the juveniles in his care on tours through the jail so they could see the inmates.
There were usually only two juveniles under Reeves' supervision on each tour, he said. A corrections officer would meet Reeves and the juveniles at the front of the jail and accompany them on the tours, he said.
"They wanted me to take them over to the jail where the molesters and hardened criminals were," Reeves told The Star. "And the inmates would say things like, 'boy, we can't wait until you get in here with us; we can show you a thing or two.' "
Scared straight or community service?
Those descriptions of the program seem to run counter to a federal law that officials say prohibits any sight or sound contact between youthful offenders and adult inmates. The events described would also run counter to a state law, which bans youthful offenders from being detained in adult facilities as a way to modify those juveniles' behavior.
"The federal Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Act — and I know Alabama participates with it — states a youth who is in juvenile justice custody, he or she is not supposed to be in a locked facility for adults," said Tara Andrews, deputy director of the Washington D.C.-based nonprofit Coalition for Juvenile Justice. "They are not supposed to even literally be able to see or hear another adult inmate, because the purpose of the law is to protect young people from violence or harassment."
Attempts to reach Amerson Wednesday were unsuccessful, but a news release posted on the Sheriff's Office website Monday disputes the idea the program is of the scared-straight variety. The release stated the program, which Amerson has described as a service for teenagers who've been suspended from school or others who've committed minor crimes and are under the jurisdiction of the juvenile courts, was not a scared-straight program, but, instead, "an opportunity for community service."
Other than the release, Amerson and officials with Family Links, Inc., the children's behavior task force that helped form the program, have provided scant details about it.
"The activities will be structured in an environment that will educate the student about responsibility, respect and discipline under the direct supervision of a corrections officer," the release said. "The child will be required to perform manual labor tasks such as cutting grass and cleaning."
Descriptions match
Reeves' descriptions of the jail tours and the inmates' reactions to the juveniles seem to match the description of J.B.'s Feb. 4 experience as detailed in the Monday lawsuit.
Two hours after arriving at the jail, Deputy Ward and jail guards took J.B. and one other juvenile on a tour of the facility, the suit states. During that tour, the complaint states, the guards stopped in the laundry room.
"The guards then spoke to the inmates and asked the inmates if they wanted some little boys in there with them. The inmates said, 'yes,' " the suit alleged. "One of the inmates stated, while pointing at J.B., 'I want that little black one right there.' "
Later in the day, after lunch, J.B. and the other juvenile were taken on the rest of the tour, when "they spoke to an inmate named Douglas," the suit stated.
The suit then alleges Deputy Ward and other unnamed officers verbally and physically abused J.B., using racial slurs, pushing J.B. without cause and insulting his mother.
When J.B. curled his right fist into a ball by his side, the suit said, Deputy Ward noticed the gesture and threatened to put J.B. in a cell with Douglas, the inmate.
"J.B. began cussing at the officer. They handcuffed J.B. and put him in a room which he resisted after he was threatened with being locked up with an inmate," the suit alleged. "He was in the room for a long time, between one and two hours."
The suit said Amerson eventually came into that locked room to talk J.B. Part of what happened during that conversation is captured on a video first published by The Anniston Star March 30; the video clip shows the sheriff grabbing and holding down a boy dressed in an orange-striped inmate jumpsuit. The boy, whom the suit identifies as J.B., is shackled and has his hands cuffed behind his back during the incident.
Violation of law?
Juvenile justice experts who spoke with The Star Tuesday stated they thought the Sheriff's Office program for juveniles, even without inmate contact, was a scared straight program that was in violation of the federal Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act of 1974 and of the Alabama Juvenile Justice Act of 2008.
During interviews last week, Amerson and Family Links Director Lyndsey Gillam both said the program began as a way to let high-risk kids see what jail might be like.
Andrews, the Coalition for Juvenile Justice spokeswoman, said Tuesday that kind of reasoning is exactly what makes the program fit into the scared-straight category.
And Andrews specifically addressed the Calhoun County program.
"Even if the inmate never addresses juveniles or touches him or her, it sounds, because some of the young people are justice involved, they may be in violation of federal law," Andrews said.
Funding at stake
The federal law expressly prohibits youthful offenders from having any sort of sight or sound contact with inmates; it also bans those youthful offenders from being detained in adult facilities.
Furthermore, the Alabama Juvenile Justice Act of 2008 restricts youthful offenders from being "in secure custody in a secure section of a jail, lockup or correctional facility for adults as a disposition of an offense or as a means of modifying his or her behavior."
The Alabama Administrative Office of Courts published an addendum after the state law was passed to explain the reasoning behind it.
"This provision will expressly prohibit shock incarceration programs like 'scared straight,' which involve bringing juveniles into adult facilities for the purpose of scaring them into modifying their behavior," the court addendum reads. "Such programs are impermissible under federal law and jeopardize the state's eligibility for millions of dollars in federal funding for delinquency prevention programs."
Attempts to reach officials with the Alabama Department of Economic and Community Affairs about how much federal funding the state and Calhoun County receive for delinquency prevention programs were unsuccessful Wednesday.
But a spokeswoman with the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, an arm of the United States Department of Justice, said in an email that states stand to lose 20 percent of federal funding per violation of the 1974 federal law. That means states could lose 20 percent of funding every time they break one of four specific sections of the law, which expressly prohibits sight and sound contact between juvenile and adult offenders, the detaining of youthful offenders in adult facilities, allowing a disproportionate number of youthful offenders who are minorities to come into contact with adult offenders, and the institutionalization of status offenders, or juveniles who commit acts that are crimes only for juveniles, like underage drinking.
"If there are enough violations, then the state can lose any federal or juvenile justice money, millions of dollars," said Joe Vignati, the coordinator for the Governor's Office of Children and Families in Georgia, during a Tuesday conversation with The Star.
Repeated attempts this week to reach Amerson and other Sheriff's Office and Family Links officials this week about the specifics of the jail program have been unsuccessful.
Contact Star Staff Writer Cameron Steele at 256-235-3562.
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wilkbama wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 08:10 AM
After reading this article, you would think that a SCARED STRAIGHT program is strickly illegal federal and state. If so, how come the shows, SCARED STRAIGHT and BEYOND SCARED STRAIGHT, on the A&E channel are highly acclaimed. Here is A&E's statement about the shows.
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Scared Straight!, the Academy Award & multiple-Emmy®-winning documentary film by Arnold Shapiro, made a huge impact on audiences through its portrayal of an effective juvenile prevention/intervention program at a NJ prison. Over the years, both the prison program and the film have turned countless kids away from drugs, violence and crime, and kept them out of prison.
BEYOND SCARED STRAIGHT™ produced by Arnold Shapiro, profiles the new approach to keeping today's teens from becoming tomorrow's prisoners. The power of the original Scared Straight! program has inspired dozens of inmate-run intervention programs in men's and women's prisons across the country. In many dramatic ways, these 21st Century programs are very different, because today's youth need a different approach - a combination of confrontation, information and communication to try to reach these at-risk kids. These youthful offender programs put boys and girls of all ethnicities and backgrounds, ranging in age from 11-18, into intensive one-day in-prison sessions that show them the realities of life behind bars.
Each one-hour episode focuses on a different inmate-run program in the U.S., and follows four or five at-risk teens before they attend the program, throughout their day inside the prison, immediately afterwards, and then follows up with them one-month later to see the lasting impact of the experience on their lives. Beyond Scared Straight is about transforming the lives of young people through intervention and second chances.
Beyond Scared Straight is produced by Arnold Shapiro Productions for A&E Network. Executive Producer is Arnold Shapiro. Co-Executive Producer is Paul J. Coyne. A&E Executive Producers are Laura Fleury, Jordana Hochman and Robert Sharenow.
arizonagirl wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 09:12 AM
First, I want to applaud C. Steele for being bold enough to report the truth.
I have had conversations with this reporter in the past about articles she has written which seemed very one sided - tilted towards the Sherrif's office.
During those conversations, much to her surprise, she found that some of the information she had been given by the 'authorities', and actually printed, was not all factual. SURPRISE SURPRISE!
I encouraged her to be a 'fair and equitable' reporter, not to just report what she was told by the authorities, as the whole truth.
For far too long, those who have reported on crime/police issues have reported only what they were told by the 'authorities'....it is such a relief that finally there is a reporter in Calhoun County who wants the truth and not just what the 'authorities' want printed.
C. Steele, do not let these bullies scare you. If the truth be known, they are scared of you. They are not comfortable being in the presence of 'honest' people who demand the truth!
agm wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 09:28 AM
I do not believe that the scared straight programs are illegal federally. The federal Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act of 1974 provides funding, and one of the requirements to receive that funding is to not have the scared straight type programs. I am assuming that the prisons and what not can decide they would rather have the scared straight programs and not the funding as long as the programs are not illegal in their specific state. Judging by this article, they are illegal in Alabama, but may not be elsewhere. I am not sure about any of this, but it could be a possibility.
Bjacobson1949 wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 05:18 PM
I believe that if the parents had taught this respect he probably would not have spit in an adults face or cussed an adult out. As for as these "former" deputies goes why not ask what grudge do they have. Perhaps they left under less than honorable circumstances. It has been my experience you can find disgruntled employees anywhere if you look hard enough. I support our sheriff and believe it is time for parents to step up and be parents.
UnSaved wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 07:13 PM
Honestgovernment, How do you know that momma is trying to run things to keep the check coming while daddy continues to be irresponsible? Why do you refer to the young boy as a "spawn"? The only time I ever heard that word was when is was used as "spawn of the devil".
Is your morality straight from the Holy Bible? It sounds that way. It does not matter if the momma was on welfare, food stamps, wic and whatever else that is offered from the government, the actions of the Sheriff are still wrong. The boy according to the suit listed in the paper was man-handled by men that are supposed to be professional law officers. The video gives validity to what was said. Why do you call yourself honestgovernment and give support to a government official that has acted dishonestly? If your morality comes from the Holy Bible you are making a horrible mistake because the people in that book were barbarians.
justnotright wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 08:46 PM
I still say this is ridiculous.Now that a few more "facts" come out,it seems to be quite a bit more interesting.I can't wait to see who the snitch is.I'm sure someone broke a law releasing that tape.I can smell vendetta all over this.Watch and see....it's money$$$$$$
justhetruth wrote on Thursday, Apr 07 at 09:50 PM
One comment that this 14 year old's daddy is derelict in his responsibility and mommy is on government payroll is hogwash. If the writer would take time and do their homework, they would learn that the daddy was killed fighting overseas for our right to be able to speak out. Regardless though, the sheriff is wrong and cannot justify his actions. He will be lucky if he is not indicted and sent to federal prison. He may lose his retirement if this happens. There is more to come that will put the sheriff a little deeper in the ground. I understand the FBI supobened some documents today. It ain't over by a long shot. The main question is will the employees who know the truth share it with the FBI, or will they cover for the sheriff and take a chance on being indicted for perjury or obstruction of justice.
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The lawsuit against Amerson (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12691884/article-The-lawsuit-against-Amerson?)
by our readers · Anniston Star
Apr 08, 2011
Re "Suit describes verbal, physical threats against boy before encounter with sheriff" (News article, April 6):
OK, here we go with a lawsuit. No, I don't know the whole story, and I am not sure Sheriff Larry Amerson made the right decision. But if it were my son and I thought he did wrong, I would want justice and any wrong-doer to go to jail or whatever punishment is due.
But, no, let us sue for money. Does that solve the problem? Does that make things right? Does that make my son behave like he should? No, the almighty dollar solves it all.
I knew this was coming. Money is going to solve everything — not.
Candace Williams
Anniston
Amerson guilty of misconduct
I would like to thank the person who gave the surveillance video of Sheriff Larry Amerson to The Star. Despite some incoherent viewers, the video clearly demonstrates misconduct by Amerson.
The video also contradicts previous statements pertaining to the juvenile's behavior problems and his history of spitting. It is clear that on both occasions Amerson demonstrated misconduct, as the juvenile's head was turned in the opposite direction, making it impossible to spit on Amerson.
Amerson should be held accountable for his actions, unless he decides later that the video was released to promote the "scared straight" program. You know, just like his "so-called" request that the FBI conduct a preliminary investigation. Amerson's actions are inexcusable.
We the citizens aren't questioning Amerson's Christianity, we are questioning his actions. As a Christian, you should be familiar with Matthew 7:15: "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
With that being said, Amerson needs to resign because his recent actions shown towards a handcuffed, shackled and defenseless juvenile are a disgrace to this county as well as to honest, law-abiding officers.
Sheila Boyd
Anniston
Not so hasty, parents
I want to caution parents whose children are disobedient and disrespectful. When you want to grab them by the collar and push their head up against the wall, restrain yourself and remember that if they are a juvenile, you can be legally punished for such?an offense.
Resist that urge. At least wait and listen for the day when they excuse Sheriff Larry Amerson for his similar actions against a juvenile. Then you can save yourself some of the yelling and begging and creative techniques that you come up with to discipline your kids without putting your hands on them.
When and if the sheriff is excused, that should be a strong endorsement for parents to go back to snatching kids by the collar and even back to not sparing the rod. This change would give every parent the chance to contribute something positive to the community by properly shaping those who will one day influence the community. It will also let the sheriff focus more on what he can handle more expertly than the parent.
Stephenson Reeves
Anniston
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jthomas1979 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 05:33 AM
I agree with Candace Williams!
It seems like the Mother has found away to get rich quick. That does seem to be the Ameriacan dream for many.
I've read comments concerning the many articles the Star has published about this situation. Everyone that has automatically decided against the Sheriff has said he should have to answer for his actions. If he is guilty, I agree. I don't agree with the county literally PAYING for them.
I hope someone can explain (to me) how several hundred thousand dollars will help this child.
Sensai wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 08:09 AM
I agree with Cadice Williams
arizonagirl wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 08:51 AM
jthomas1979 :
No one owes you or I an explanation as to how this lawsuit and/or the financial outcome will help this child.
Unfortunately, money is what speaks to those in positions of authority/government who commit crimes, and this 'sherrif' committed a crime. If he or his employer has to pay financially for his crime, then maybe he will change his wicked ways!
If a lawsuit had not been filed, this story would have gone away and the 'sherrif' would be allowed to continue his blatant arrogance and disregard for the law, which he requires others to uphold.
If this 'sherrif' were a man of honor and integrity, he would apologize for his poor choice to assault this teenager, and show true repentance, but no, that will not happen, he honestly believes he is above the law.
This 'sherrif' should be arrested, hand and ankle bound, and put into the calhoun county jail. This is what would happen to you or I if we were caught abusing a child.
jthomas1979 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 09:30 AM
arizonagirl:
A lawsuit does not always have to be about a financial award for wrong doing against someone.
"If he or his employer has to pay financially for his crime, then maybe he will change his wicked ways!"
If found guilty, he will suffer financially. He will lose his income as Sheriff.
The rest of your comments had nothing to do with my original comment. I agree with the case being taken to court, the Sheriff having to apologize, and HIM facing punishment if found guilty.
My point: ALL TAX PAYERS AND I WILL DESERVE AN EXPLANATION of the financial outcome of this suit. It is our money that will pay this family if they are awarded an amount. Justice should be served NOT MONEY!
JustPlainBill wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 11:00 AM
There will bo NO taxpayer money paid out in any lawsuit because the County of Calhoun is not at fault only one of its employees. Caught on tape is a catch phrase in America and everybody suspects, as in the cases we see on television, why did he do it? Do people who lose tempers need to be in position of authority is not the question, the tape reveals every officer present left the room so the sheriff was alone with the young man, why they did that and were they asked or ordered to leave is the defining truth.
hillbilly7722 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 11:49 AM
This is taken directly from Title 13 of the Alabama Criminal Code. If you do not believe me, Google Alabama Criminal Code, Title 13 deals mostly with criminal offenses. Before making judgement, take a look at this. The State of Alabama acknowledges that sometimes certain individuals must be disciplined with force. That's right parents, you can spank your kids. It is not illegal, immoral, or unethical. And if you can't control your own kids, so you decide to turn them over to someone else to raise them for you, they can use force to make them behave. FYI: Teachers can use corporal punishment. This is not child abuse, it is using force to make an out of control kid behave. Don't get me wrong, I don't want anyone beating on my kid, but this is not a beating, it is not child abuse, and I dare say that if I let my kid get so out of hand that I have to send him to the county jail to try to make him behave, then I would probably deserve to have by butt kicked. "Section 13A-3-24 - Use of force by persons with parental, custodial or special responsibilities.
The use of force upon another person is justified under any of the following circumstances:
(1) A parent, guardian or other person responsible for the care and supervision of a minor or an incompetent person, and a teacher or other person responsible for the care and supervision of a minor for a special purpose, may use reasonable and appropriate physical force upon the minor or incompetent person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary and appropriate to maintain discipline or to promote the welfare of the minor or incompetent person."
jthomas1979 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 11:54 AM
JustPlainBill:
I hope you are correct about NO taxpayer money paid out. I was thinking along the lines of the County being responsible since he was on the clock.
As for there only being one employee at fault. That is not true. If you read all the articles, you will see that a Deputy Ward is also mentioned in the suit.
[email protected] wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 08:18 PM
Hillbilly, I read the statue you quoted. Larry Amerson used force to restrain this young man when he put him in shackles and handcuffs. No one is arguing that point. He used EXCESSIVE FORCE when he proceeded to choke a young man that was already restrained. That is not discipline. That is ABUSE. It is obvious from the video the boy is not fighting back. He is not being disruptive. He is not causeing any problems. There is NO excuse for Amerson to treat him this way. For all those that are complaining about the mother suing for money what would you have her do. She can't fire him. She can't arrest him. She can't force him to resign. She can't get her son's dignity back.She can't erase any scares that this may leave on her child. And if he was really a problem child we don't know the long term effects this incident will have on him. So what would you have her to do? Should she assume the cost of legally fighting to resolve the problem with the sheriff department? Should she have to pay for counseling if her son needs it? And I believe he will. You don't solve behavioral problems with violence that only makes matters worse. So what should the mother do? Write a strongly worded letter? March in front of the jail? Don't vote for Amerson next election? Is any of that really punishing Amerson? Sometimes the only way we can punish someone is making them pay finacially.
Jimmy_Jo_Johnson wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 09:49 PM
I really cant believe some of the things I am reading. This "child" wasnt abused. He wasnt roughed up, he was just made to pay attention. To all these posters who think a lawsuit is in order and that the poor child will need counseling, you are what is wrong with this country and with these children who have no raising. If his mother really loved him and had any morals whatsoever, she would have whipped his tail a long time ago instead of forcing us taxpayers to flip the bill to pay our sheriff to discipline her "child". I will vote for Amerson for this reason alone. He didnt force the "child" to pay attention because he was trying to hurt him or because he had something against this "child. Amerson was trying to help the poor child. Amerson is/was in the right. Kids will be kids and all of them need their butts whipped now and again. Amerson should be rewarded for his efforts and the mothwer should be put in jail for being a parisite to society and breeding.
[email protected] wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 02:08 AM
Jimmy Jo, I have raised 4 sons. I have one that is in the Navy, one that is in college, a senior on his way to college and a sophmore who already has colleges looking at him for being a scholar athlete. Only a small minded, ignorant person would have to resort to name calling because they have nothing more intelligent to say. Your post is case in point. It was not Larry Amerson's job to discipline this boy. He was supposed to be there to do community serve. He had no right to put his hands on someone else's child. PERIOD. He was not a resident of Calhoun County jail. He was not ordered there by the courts. He was not a prisoner. When he asked to call his mom they should have allowed him to call his mom. People are talking about this child like he had been convicted of rape, murder, or armed robbery. He was suspended from school. How many people got suspended when they were in school? That doesn't make them criminals, that doesn't make them parasites. It makes them kids. What is wrong with society is that the world is still racist. If this had been a Black sheriff choking a white child all of you would be singing a different tune. It is NOT acceptable.
hillbilly7722 wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 02:27 AM
Jimmy Jo Johnson
I could not have said it better myself.
Telesa
I completely missed the part where anyone was choked in the video. And, no, the video does not show us everything. No one knows what was said. Just because he was cuffed, does not meant that he was not being verbally abusive. You see a short clip of the incident. No one knows what happened before or after. As far as the kid needing counseling. If that deserved counseling, then I would be should probably be laying on a couch spilling my guts to some shrink at this very minute, because I got my chain yanked regularly when I was a kid. But I am not laying on a couch crying to a therapist, because it was discipline. The kind of discipline that starts at a young age. The kind of discipline that produces hard working, RESPECTFUL, productive members of society. I understand that some parents opt for other forms of punishment, and so long as it is consistent and gets the job done, then so be it, but a parent cannot turn their out of control kid over to someone else, and then get mad because he gets what he should have been getting at home.
To the folks talking about the law suit. Yes, the Sheriff can be sued as an individual, but rest assured, the county will be sued as well, and the county will pay off in the law suit. Most likely the county will settle with this "poor child's" mother and the settlement will be sealed so we will never know the amount she receives. If the sheriff is found to have acted legally (which I am sure that he will), then the suit against him as an individual will be dropped. But in the end, all of us tax payers will be getting screwed, and when this kid gets a little older and commits a serious crime, maybe the mom will have a little left over to cover his attorney fees, so we won't be left footing the bill again.
[email protected] wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 06:12 AM
Hillbilly,
As far as I know in America we still have freedom of speech. That young man had a right to say what he wanted. Period. Abuse of authority is not the same as discipline. I noticed one other thing in the video. Why did all the officers in the room leave? That makes his actions questionable in the first place. As far as the lawsuit the mother has a better chance of winning a civil case than a criminal case and it's not because of the innocence or guilt of Amerson it is because we still live in a racist society that promote white violence against blacks. It is the same thing as Rodney King, white officers beating a black man that is obviously on the ground and not fighting back but they still walked. I don't expect this case to be any different.
Bobby_G. wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 06:57 AM
The point is that the boy should never have been in the jail to start with! The sheriff was wrong for having such a program to start with, it was not approved and this type of program has been shown not to be as effective as shown on TV shows. The boy should have been sent to reform school, if we don't have one then there should have been one started long ago.
The jail is a jail, it was not designed to operate juvenile social programs in. It was designed for incarceration of criminals/suspected criminals 18 years old and older. There is a womens' section but no kiddy korner for punks some parents can't or won't handle.
Amerson should be fired for letting this situation exist. If he had quit trying to raise other peoples' spoiled kids for them, his jail operations might be far better than it has proven to be.
What the republican party needs to do NOW is start looking for a candidate for sheriff who is not a bail bondsman, drug-team cop or some other person who cannot be elected. It is for certain that the democrats will run Amerson again just because he is the incumbent, not because he knows where all the dirt is in the county! If he won't quit, he has to beaten in the next election. He may have done some good work before but he has done so much bad work lately, he simply has to go.
[email protected] wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 08:46 AM
Bobby G, I agree with you that this program should never has existed in the first place. And according to many officials they didn't even know there was such a program. If this program was what Amerson claimed it to be he should have been promoting it to the community instead of this stealth program that nobody seemed to know about. Everybody is talking about this child like he is the lowest form of low. What did he do? All I got from the paper is he had been suspended from school. If he had done something so terribly wrong he would have been locked up in a juvenille detention center or in jail. He would not have went to a VOLUNTARY program. He wasn't ordered there by any court system so that lets me know that what he did was not that serious. Using excessive force on a shackled child is hardly raising someone else's kids. If that's the case I would love to "raise" some problems children. Having raised four boys of my own, I know raising kids is more than discipline. You have to provide financial support, emotional support, encouragement, you have to show kids love and guidance. I didn't see any of that in the video so I don't get how Amerson was "raising" other people kids.
Jesus_Hates_Sinners wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 09:08 AM
Jimmy-Jo-Johnson,these are your words "Amerson was trying to help the poor child. Amerson is/was in the right. Kids will be kids and all of them need their butts whipped now and again. Amerson should be rewarded for his efforts and the mothwer should be put in jail for being a parisite to society and breeding." Your "King James morality" is showing. A "parasite to society"? Put in jail for breeding? Jimmy- Jo , were you abused as a child in you home because the bible said "spare the rod , spoil the child"? I have noticed that it is the "holier than thou" crowd that is standing up for the thug behavior of Sheriff Amerson. I can only think that the support of these "holier than thou" people is because Sheriff Amerson stated that he was a "Follower of Christ". Dogs are trained with punishment and treats to obtain the desired behavior , and aren't we as humans different than dogs and farm animals?
Do not forget , the boy was only 14. I sincerely hope that the "Follower of Christ" is done in his role as public servant.
bama57 wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 11:03 AM
Telesa, you or arizonagirl should volunteer to take this poor "child" in your home and I'm sure you could turn his life around, because you know everything about how to handle an out of control kid. Telesa, you said all you could find out he did wrong was get kicked out of school. When I was in school, that was the most serious thing that could happen to you. The Star does not want to go to the trouble to find out what he did for this to happen. If you would go to the trouble to read the law suit that was filed against Amerson, you would see some the things that happened while he was in the jail. On page 6, line 27 & 28 it states jail personel put JB in a room with only a table and chair, and left, locking the door. He then turned the table over and picked up the chair, and tried to knock the window out. Jail personel returned and removed the table and chair. He then began to rip the wiring off the wall and it was at this point he was cuffed and shackled. This is the account given by his own lawyer and was sugar coated as much as they could, I'm sure. We have not heard the other side of the story, only one.
You stated that raising kids is more than discipline, they need emotional support, encouragement, love, and guildance, and you did not see any of this in Amerson. That is the job of the PARENTS, not Amerson. He only becomes involved when this fails. He is trying to keep JB out of prison one day, but from the video he didn't want to listen. One day, when JB is in prison, and someone's "wife", he will wish Amerson had jerked his head a few more times, to try to talk some sense in him before it was too late.
If this "child: had not acted the way he did, he would not have been handcuffed and the sheriff called over to talk to him. And to those who said the sheriff choked and beat him, you must have seen a different video than the one I saw.
If someone doesn't turn JB's life around, one day we will be reading about him killing someone, or someone killing him. Mark J. Brown's name down somewhere and see if I'm not right.
[email protected] wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 03:03 PM
Bama57, unlike most of the people who just run their mouth, I take action. I have been a foster mom. I have taken children into my home. I am a nurse. I worked for a non-profit for the prevention of child abuse and taught parenting classes. I go into the schools and get students to volunteer time with hospice patients. I try to give them a positive outlook by giving them an opportunity to help others. I don't claim to know everything about raising kids but I know you don't take a child that exhibits aggression and treat him with even more aggression. What does that solve? The paper said the program was for kids that had been suspended from school not expelled. The exact quote from the paper says Calhoun County Administrator Ken Joiner never knew about a Sheriff’s Office program for youthful offenders and suspended-from-school teenagers to work in the county jail, no where in any of these articles does it say what this child did. He is a juvenille, it would be unlawful to report it. You talk about what this child did when he was shackled and locked in a cage like and animal but the point is he should have never been there in the first place. He was not an inmate. He was a minor and SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE PERIOD. If it is against the law for these programs to exist how can anyone uphold Amerson. He is not above the law. It doesn't matter what his motivation was Amerson broke the law. I can't lock my child in the basement in shackles cause I am claiming to save him, I would go to jail and that is exactly what should happen to Amerson.
jthomas1979 wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 08:16 PM
Like I posted in another article about this story, should've gave him cupcakes and a Xbox all day and the hole thing would've went alot smoother. I'm sure it would've straightened him out too...
madmac013 wrote on Sunday, Apr 10 at 01:56 PM
I like the Rodney King refrence. The initial video showed him getting beat down by police. But, when the whole story came out, it was way different. He actually ran from police because he was intoxicated, going over 100 mph in the process. When he was stopped, he fought with officers, throwing them around and resisting. Tasers didn't even stop him. Then came the video which only shows what the press wanted people to see. Kinda sounds like what's happening here. None of us have the whole story. We only have what the press wants us to see. I'm going to wait until the whole story comes out to see what really went on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King)[/list]
Jimmy_Jo_Johnson wrote on Sunday, Apr 10 at 04:23 PM
"Not a lot of difference between this and Rodney King"
Really? Maybe when this kid becomes a man he will remember and act on the values his Mother is currently displaying. He can go out and find him a "Reginal Denny" and stick it to the man. Rodney King was out drunk, driving and resisting arrest. If anyone is out drinking and driving, they are inviting law enforcment into their life and are disregarding the lifes and safety of others. If you then resist arrest the police just might use force, but remember, Rodney King invited the police into his life when he made a choice to drink and drive.
Lets now talk about another beating that took place after the Rodney King verdict was read. Reginal Denny was trying to earn a living driving a concrete truck. The young thugs who beat Reginal,threw bricks at his head and then did a touchdown dance in celebration, are the kind of people Sheriff Amerson was trying to prevent this young man from becoming. But you all go ahead victimize him (JB), tell him that he should stick it to the man any time he can. Tell him society and "the man" owes him a living. Tell him he should sue any time he can. And when he cant sue, tell him to start robbing and stealing because "the man" is out to get him anyway. Tell him its "the white mans" fault that his choices have put him in a cage "like an animal". Then when he has children he can demonstrate the same type of behavior to his kids and it can keep going and going.
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justnotright wrote on Sunday, Apr 10 at 05:09 PM
Oh no,jimmiejoe,they're gonna eat you alive now.Remember what I said?People on here "can't handle the truth".Hide and watch...
hillbilly7722 wrote on Monday, Apr 11 at 12:45 AM
Telesa, How did you associate this incident to Rodney King? By the way, the mother cannot take action to prosecute Amerson criminally, that is the job of the investigating agency. At the time that kid's mother turned him over to the Sheriff's Office, she made the Sheriff and his employees guardians. She did this because the out of control little bastard would not mind her. Why could she not control him? We do not know that, and most likely, we never will. This is not a racial issue. This is an issue over a punk kid getting discipline. Whether it was their fault or not, he ran over the people who were in a position to control him, and she placed him in a position where someone else had to take care of him. Well, what would you have the Sheriff, or anyone else for that matter, do? Would you let him into your house to tear your things apart? Would you sit and talk to him about the errs of his way while he spit in your face? At what point would you decide that you had to act? I have read all of your posts, and it sounds like you have done an exceptional job at raising your children. I commend you on that. That being said, not all parents take the time to raise their kids. Instead they let them have free reign until one day they have to act to control them. They then have to demand that law enforcement intervenes. In most of these cases, the parents complain because force is used. Force is most often used in cases of juveniles because they have always had it their way. It is not a black/white issue, and this could have just as easily been a white kid instead of a black kid. I am sick and tired of the talk about "racism" in law enforcement. if this was a white kid, no one would care, and most certainly, no one would be looking at the almighty dollar sign.
[email protected] wrote on Monday, Apr 11 at 02:40 PM
hillbilly7722,
I am African American. I know that their is still a difference in how blacks are treated by white law enforcement. Do I think all white cops are out to get Black people know, but I am not naive enough to believe that it doesn't exist. I made the reference to Rodney King because it was an example of excessive police force. Force is supposed to be used to get control of a person but once they have submitted, once they are shackled and restraint, then the billy clubs, fists, kicks, stomps, chocking etc should stop. If it doesn't then it goes from a police man doing his job to police brutality. To answer your question hillbilly, I have taken kids who were consider problems kids in before. I try to just write kids off, I believe everyone has a redemption story, a testimony. I am old school so I believe it takes a village to raise a child and in my day if I acted up and a neighbor saw me they would beat my butt before they took me home to my mama and she would beat my butt. My issue is that this should have never happened. The program should not have existed, it was against the law but everyone wants to overlook that tad bit of information. How can the sheriff expect this child to listen to him about abiding by the law when he is breaking it himself. I see all the names called but what was the boy charged with? what was he found guilty of? Every body is talking about this kid, calling him a bastard, a degenerative, a low life, can someone please tell me what this child did that was so awful?
hillbilly7722 wrote on Monday, Apr 11 at 11:52 PM
Telesa, first of all the program would only be illegal if it were used in lieu of sentencing a kid to another form of detention/rehabilitation, and the kid was ordered to attend. Kids do not have the same rights as adults. This kid's mother sent him there voluntarily. No one made her do it, and the kid cannot object because he is a kid. A guardian has the right to make kids do things they do not want to do. Personally, I do not like these types of programs because they tend to put police in the role of babysitter, and the police have enough responsibilities. That's my personal opinion, and it does not make the program illegal. Secondly, I am a white police officer, and I have been accused of being racist on a number of occasions. I try to treat everyone that I encounter the same, however, as soon as a white cop has an unfavorable encounter with an African American suspect, the race card gets played. Racism is a word, it is not an opinion or a state of mind, it is simply a word. I do not believe in treating anyone differently based on race, religion, creed, sex, sexual orientation, or national origin. I am sure you are probably aware of this, but other readers may not be. African Americans can be racist too. I don't know how many times I have been called a "redneck" or a "cracker". Now I find these words offensive when used as a term of endearment, however, I am supposed to bite my tongue, and I do, because that's what's expected of me. I do believe that we should all be treated as equals, as we were created that way, but that is a two-way street. There is no excuse for anyone being mistreated based on color of skin. This kid was not mistreated because of his skin color. He was not abused. He was not choked out. He was forced to listen to a person of authority, and that is all. And to answer your last question, no one who really knows what happened can tell you because that would be a violation of this "little darling's" rights. See, no one can disclose that information, and I have not seen one person from "The Star" make mention of that. They have hung the Sheriff out to dry here with part of the story. The fact is, they cannot tell you whether the kid was arrested and charged with criminal offenses, because legally they should not know. I'll bet whoever provided that tape to the "Almighty Star" also provided that information. What Steele also won't tell you is that black to white, the Sheriff's Office employs more African American deputies and Correction's Officers than any other law enforcement agency in the county. I do not work for the Sheriff, and like I said in another post, I don't agree with some of his political decisions. But railroading like this is just wrong. One other thing and I will finish. The party who used their position to release a tape of a juvenile to the press and allowed the press to watch the tape without being censored should be held liable for violating that child's right to anonymity.
maryknight wrote on Tuesday, Apr 12 at 12:46 AM
Why is it when things happen that so many times it is called racism when it is not!
muchlove2011 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 12 at 10:34 PM
hillbilly,, I agree with Telesa,,I don't care to know what happen befor what the media showed the public,,What I saw was enough,,He had no buisness doing what he did to that child. The point is the child could not bring any harm to anyone in his position. And the answer to your ? about why his mother took him there is,,the law made it where you go to jail for spanking your child. So yes the law should be babysitters. I got 3 boys and I stand 5 feet even and 2 of my sons stand over me but they all know the will hit the floor I don't care who don't like it lock me up cause that black and white card is still being played and you know it that why i tell my boys momma beat your ass cause she loves you but them cops going to beat your ass for a laugh and for their own personal joymentso how you know she havn't had problems with the law on controlling him and she got the sart end of the stick see the whole system is built to keep our kids down(black) think about
hillbilly7722 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 13 at 12:19 AM
Hey muchlove, Check this out. I posted it earlier, but maybe you did not see it. I don't know where people get the idea that you can't whip your kids. My favorite part is at the end "to maintain discipline". The kid was not choked, he was restrained and made to listen by a person whom was responsible for that child's well being. There's no law that says you can't whip your kids. There's not law that says you will go to jail if you leave whelps from a whipping on your kid. That's an excuse for not maintaining discipline. And the idea that cops beat up on black kids for the fun of it or their own personal enjoyment is absolutely absurd and I find that you would tell your kids that extremely offensive. I was raised to respect the police, teachers, and other people of authority. People like you are exactly what keeps the race card continuously being played. You and your children have the same opportunities to make a life that I and my children have. The system is not in place to keep black children down. Your opinion on this entire situation would change if this were a white kid, but mine would not. I would still believe that the kid got "a stern talking too" and nothing more.
"Section 13A-3-24 - Use of force by persons with parental, custodial or special responsibilities.
The use of force upon another person is justified under any of the following circumstances:
(1) A parent, guardian or other person responsible for the care and supervision of a minor or an incompetent person, and a teacher or other person responsible for the care and supervision of a minor for a special purpose, may use reasonable and appropriate physical force upon the minor or incompetent person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary and appropriate to maintain discipline or to promote the welfare of the minor or incompetent person."
hillbilly7722 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 13 at 12:46 AM
By the way Muchlove the portion there is only part of that code. You can look up the entire thing by typing Alabama Criminal Code 13a-3-24 into your search engine and read the entire law.
EtLux wrote on Wednesday, Apr 13 at 03:06 PM
and the line is drawn in the sand
African-americans begin to empathize and recall their horrific experiences with "lawless" officials
And law officials begin to defend the actions of a fellow law official
There are some African-americans that are out of control and terrorize neighborhoods
There are police officers that beat innocent black males
The history of these two groups are intertwined with mistrust and a deep seeded disdain
Other groups or nationalities may not understand being pulled over for a "suspicious" reason
Other groups may not understand being "searched" with your private parts groped and inspected
Other groups may not have encountered being stopped for driving a car that is too nice or pulled over and asked what are you doing over here, because of living in a certain neighborhood
"law officials" should remember they allowed police dogs to bite and attack African American children
"law officials" should remember that they were at the core of "suspicious" murders of African American men
"law officials" should remember that it was a young black male shot in the back while handcuffed
"law officials" should remember that they have incarcerated several thousands of innocent black males throughout this country
Blacks should remember that they were considered only 3/5th of a person
Blacks should remember that they were/are considered as property and sources of income
i.e. (college football and college athletics)
Blacks should remember the treatment of the current President of the United States of America
Blacks should remember slave "patrols" and how time changed but it didn't
To deter slaves from escaping the plantation, plantation owners established and frequently encouraged the activities of regional slave patrols.
These white males, often described by the former slaves as "pore white trash," patrolled the areas between plantations and had the unofficial authority to question, and sometimes punish, any slave they encountered traveling between plantations. Their general objective was the control of the black community through physical intimidation.
Historians Kenneth Stampp and Sally Hadden found that slave patrols were closely associated with the local militia, which meant their activities, as a pseudo-police force, were sanctioned by local legislatures. As such, slave owners relied upon the slave patrols to act as a form of law enforcement to monitor the activities of slaves and keep a watchful eye on any potential rebellions. This allowed them to either prevent potential rebellions themselves or notify plantation owners, thus allowing plantation owners to inflict whatever punishments they deemed appropriate.
hillbilly7722 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 13 at 08:36 PM
@ EtLux
I appreciate your words and I definitely see your point. That being said, I am not defending the actions of a fellow law official because he "beat up" a black kid. I am defending his actions because he did not "beat up" anyone. I have never allowed a dog to bite anyone, I have never enslaved anyone, I have never incarcerated anyone without probable cause, I have never stopped a suspicious vehicle and based that suspicion on the color of the occupants or the type of vehicle, I have never assaulted someone just because they were black, I have never seen a law enforcement officer do any of these things. I have never owned a slave (hell, I have never even met a slave) and the reason I have never done any of this is because slavery was abolished over 120 years ago. Blacks have been treated terribly in the nation, as well as in other parts of the world, but I am not responsible for the sins of my father's grandfathers. I do not hold all blacks accountable for the sins of a few, and I don't expect anyone to hold me accountable for things that happened in the civil rights era, almost 2 decades before I was born. It is a scar of the face of America, but it also part of what makes this nation great. We (most of us) have moved past that era, but some cling to it. Muchlove teaches her kids that the police will beat them unmercifully without cause, and that the system is designed to keep black kids down. How is that? We live in a nation where in the matter of 4 decades, we go from African Americans being second class citizens to being a nation led by a black president. Now I am not an Obama supporter at all, but I have no issue with his skin tone. (I actually hoped that Condolezza Rice would be our first African American President, but no one asked me). Law Enforcement Officers are criticized at every turn, and nothing gets attention like a good racial scandal involving the police. I don't think that it's fair to turn this story that way. I know Larry Amerson, and while not being an Amerson supporter, I know that he is not racist, and it's not fair to him, or anyone else in law enforcement, to make this issue about skin color.
EtLux wrote on Thursday, Apr 14 at 12:23 PM
@hillbilly
Something happened between that child and the sheriff
There is the child’s version of the event
There is the sheriff’s version of the event
There is the truth
We can only wait until the truth is told
Which is unfair to both parties
Because while waiting, we begin to form our opinions
While waiting, we begin to choose sides based on our own experiences
As you sit from your “I” sland
You don’t see, hear, or know
And why should you care
Its not you and won’t be you
As you stated,
"I have never ......."
Yet, the organization that you are a part of has..
Murdered
Raped
Assaulted
Sold illegal drugs
And ....
As some move past,
Some lived through that era
Some still have the scars of that era
A group kicked your grandmother and she told you who did it
A group kicked your mother and she told you who did it
A group kicked you and you know who did it
Other than the date, the group is still doing the same thing
The stories of your group has been passed down for generations
And the wicked behavior continues
As a whole the treatment of the President has reminded this generation of what previous generations suffered through. (i.e. the tea party)
When is it racial?
When can a person say that it is about skin color?
hillbilly7722 wrote on Friday, Apr 15 at 03:56 AM
#Etlux
I am not a member of an organization that tolerates Murder, rape, assaults, and drug dealing. Police Officers hold ourselves and out peers to a higher standard than the general public. Blacks argue all the time that they are profiled because of skin color. Who's profiling who here? There are bad cops, just as there are bad doctors, lawyers, military personnel, mechanics, etc. Check your statistics, police officers are less likely to commit crime than members of any other profession. I am not trying to make excuses for dirty cops, across the board, but I cannot recall a single incident in recent history where a police officer has been convicted of a racially motivated crime. I still do not see your point. "When can a person say it is about skin color?" How about when race is a key issue, and in this case, it is not. I am only asking that people (all people, regardless of race) see this for what it is. Whether you believe that he was too rough with the kid or not, there is not one single shred of evidence that indicates that race has anything to do with what happened in that room.
hillbilly7722 wrote on Friday, Apr 15 at 04:11 AM
Just one more thing Etlux. Remember that at the time those incidents took place, blacks were not just mistreated by the police. African Americans were considered second class citizens by all whites, not just the ones with badges and guns. Those officers acted on orders and were public servants following orders. I am not saying that it was right, because it certainly was not. What I am saying is that police were tasked with trying to halt the civil rights movement. The police were a tool of Mayors, City Councilmen, County Commissioners, Governors, and the public which they served. Not an excuse, but it was a different time, a different era, and by the hard work of great leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King, we, as a nation, moved past that. There have been many reforms in law enforcement since then to curtail that activity.
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For somewhat less than fully transparent motives, one of the family court judges for Calhoun and Cleburne counties decides to wrest control of all juvenile proceedings into her own hands. This means that 7th Circuit Judge Brenda Stedham now has control over all cases in which a juvenile might be sent to alternative sentencing programs such as the Success Academy program at the Calhoun County Jail.
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Apr 08, 2011
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The presiding family court judge for Calhoun and Cleburne counties has decided to oversee all juvenile delinquency and dependency cases.
The move by 7th Circuit Judge Brenda Stedham has a local district judge saying Stedham has "destroyed" the area's drug courts.
Stedham said in a Thursday press release that she decided to oversee all cases to "better protect the health, welfare and safety of all the children who make up the juvenile caseload of this county."
Until now, Stedham split all juvenile cases with Laura Phillips, the district judge in family court.
Phillips was the judge who, six years ago, helped to create and find funding for programs that serve as sentencing alternatives for youth who would be better rehabilitated outside of the detention centers or boot camps under the Department of Youth Services.
Phillips told The Star that Stedham's move would undo her work to create drug courts.
Stedham's decision to transfer all of the juvenile cases to her caseload means that Stedham, rather than Phillips, is now in control of those alternative sentencing programs, including juvenile and family drug court.
"The transfer of the entire juvenile court caseload to me will give me direct control of each case and its outcome," Stedham said in the press release. "No juvenile in my caseload will be assigned to any program or treatment regimen without my knowledge and consent."
But even if Stedham were to consent for a child to participate in one of those sentencing alternatives, that juvenile couldn't legally abide by Stedham's request – at least not right now.
That's because Calhoun County District Attorney Brian McVeigh said he will discontinue prosecutors' referral of youthful offenders to those programs until he learns more about how Stedham plans to run programs like juvenile drug court. And by state law, children cannot participate in any alternative sentencing program without the DA's consent, McVeigh said.
"This office has a good working relationship with Judge Stedham and with Judge Phillips; my concern is that this is a situation where I don't know what the status of those programs would be a day or a week or a month from now," McVeigh said. "I don't think it would be appropriate for our office to refer children to any program at this time."
Follows controversy over jail program
Stedham's decision comes in the middle of an FBI investigation into a Calhoun County Sheriff's Office jail program for juvenile offenders and suspended-from-school students violated state and federal law.
Stedham told The Star Thursday she could not comment on whether her decision was related to that controversy and to a recently published video that shows Sheriff Larry Amerson using manual force on a shackled and handcuffed juvenile who participated in that program.
"I cannot comment on matters that are under investigation by the FBI and matters that are juvenile cases," Stedham said. "But in order to make sure that juveniles are being dealt with properly, I felt it was necessary and appropriate to take this action."
But Phillips said Stedham's actions effectively undermine her hard work to create a juvenile drug court program that has been the model for other such alternative sentencing programs in the state and has saved the Department of Youth Services thousands of dollars.
"Because of her actions, the drug courts for juveniles of Calhoun County are destroyed," Phillips said. "Because of her action itself, we lost ... the DA's support."
Phillips said Stedham did not consult with her before making the change.
And, because of Stedham's decision, Phillips said, lost are the thousands of dollars the juvenile court and other similar programs saved the Department of Youth Services by providing alternatives to putting juveniles under the department's supervision.
Stedham said that is not her interpretation of the DA's decision to temporarily stop referring children to drug court and other programs.
"Nothing I have done will cause DYS or the state to lose a model program, all I have done is take control over the family drug court and the juvenile drug court and the Success Academy, so that I can have control over those programs for the benefit of the children and families who are involved," Stedham said.
Phillips: no prior knowledge of school suspension program
The Success Academy is another sentencing alternative program that allows youthful offenders to take education classes and work toward their GED. Success Academy students who misbehave have the option of going to work at the jail as part of that Sheriff's Office program, dressing in inmate jumpsuits and following the orders of corrections officers, Family Links Inc. Director Lyndsey Gillam has said. A federal civil rights lawsuit filed against Amerson Tuesday and a former Sheriff's Office deputy allege that jail program also involved youthful offenders touring the part of the jail where inmates were located and having verbal exchanges with those inmates.
For his part, McVeigh said the decision to temporarily discontinue prosecutor referrals to alternative sentencing programs is one that would happen any time a new person took the reins on these programs without having prior work experience with them.
The DA's office would have done the same thing, McVeigh said, when adult drug court was transferred from former Circuit Judge Joel Laird to Circuit Judge Brian Howell -- if it hadn't been for Howell's prior experience as a creator of and prosecutor for the adult drug court.
Neither McVeigh nor Stedham would comment on how the juvenile drug court and other alternative sentencing programs were operated under Phillips or whether they thought there were any operational problems with the programs.
Phillips said she has no idea what Stedham's reasons are for taking the programs and juvenile cases away from her; she said the juvenile drug court program, in particular, was the lead example of how such programs should operate at a state convention.
"My drug court program has nothing to do with the Success Academy, nothing to do with the Sheriff's Office programs or anything," Phillips said.
She said she never knew about the Sheriff's Office juvenile jail program until The Star printed articles about it last week and that no juveniles in the drug court program ever toured the jail or had contact with adult inmates in any way.
Chief Juvenile Probation Officer Randy Reaves said Amerson told officials about the jail program at a Children's Policy Council meeting "a few months ago," but said the sheriff only mentioned that suspended-from-school students, with their parents' consent, would participate in the program.
Reaves said he didn't know about the Success Academy students attending the jail program and that there had never been a juvenile ordered by the court to participate in a program that gave them tours of the jail or put them into contact with adult inmates.
When asked why, Reaves replied: "It's against federal and state law, and we're very well aware of that."
Reaves said he and his staff of eight juvenile probation officers would comply with Stedham's decision.
"It does not affect us in any way other than instead of dealing with two judges, we're going to only be dealing with one judge," he said.
"The ultimate responsibility for the safety and welfare of all young people who come under the jurisdiction of our juvenile court system in this county lies with me," Stedham said. "I assure you that each juvenile's civil rights will be fully protected, and the letter and spirit of the law will be followed at all times."
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honestgovernment wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 06:15 AM
Folks this is what you get with grants and special funding deals. One hand does not know what the other is doing, or so they say. IF we in Calhoun County would have had to pay for whatever we wanted don't you think everyone would have known about the programs?
This is not just a problem with grants for this sentencing program but with grants and funding all the way from the feds to the state. Cut out grants and let everyone fund the projects and programs their taxpayers are willing to support.
We complain about the waste fraud and abuse of Alaskas bridge to nowhere, well this is Alabamas youth program to nowhere. Get government back down to the lowest level possible to the level of WE THE PEOPLE then we will have someone to blame instead of two judges and a DA pointing fingers at each other. When gov't can't decide who is at fault it's time to sweep the floor, clean house and start from scratch.
Our illustrious Hubbard got McVeigh appointed because he was supposed to kknow everything having been hand picked and trained by the former DA, well it apppears he forgot to tell him something...........
cvd60 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 07:52 AM
No this is simply a case of a newly elected judge who thinks she knows whats she is doing and doesnt.
honestgovernment wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 01:17 PM
cvd, both are incumbents.
Ima_Prose wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 01:55 PM
Stedham is NOT an incumbent. She was appointed by the governor through a recommendation of the republican party. Stedham has NEVER been a candidate for judge. Judge Laura Phillips did not have any opposition in the last election, most likely because she was doing such a good job, therefore winning her seat outright.
Stedham was appointed to her job in which the job description is "Presiding Circuit Court Family Judge". One would think Stedham would talk with the more experienced ELECTED Judge Phillips before she took these drastic actions. Maybe the two should switch jobs as Judge Phillips has done much more for the family court.
setsail98 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 02:31 PM
Empires... nothing more than empires. Control.
People in the programs have names. The peeps above are concerned with their own names only... in neon.
garmany54 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 06:54 PM
Well whoever made this decision just was not thinking about anyone with children, this judge is known to put children in foster care for all the wrong reasons and leave it up to DHR when the children should be placed back to the parents that care more about them than some home that the children are not familiar with there environments. This judge is afraid to go against anything DHR states and as we all know they take children that dont belong to them and leave those in danger where they should not be!!!! DHR lies to the parents and then they try to collect money for the stay of the children. Its all about money, lies, and deciet, as well as control.
Generations wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 06:59 PM
Oh boy. A catfight. Actually nice to see the family court under a bit of light. Otherwise, these women operate in cloak, often destroying young lives. Same drill. Order underfunded and overstreached DHR to do "home studies" and send young ones back. To destruction. DHR "supervision" on incompetent parents. Half ass attention to juve crisis. But hey, like all in Alabama, we refuse to spend a dollar today to save ten in five years. Phillips should have known what the Sheriff she orders around everyday was doing. First, she has to care. Assert yourself DA McVeigh. The system needs a thoughtful grown up rather than judges who don't know what the practice of law means in this regard. Nice wages for the ladies though. Sell tickets and wrestle. The at risk kids can wait.
John5299 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 07:03 PM
I think Judge Phillips is a very fine judge. She has put alot of time in getting programs started for juveniles. She was probably misguided by the Sheriff in to agreeing to some of these programs. At the same time I think Judge Stedham is doing fine too. Apparently, there is more to this then what we know and probably never will. Maybe Judge Stedham smells or knows there is maybe a good ole boy rat in the system. I think Judge Stedham is looking out for the interest of the juveniles in Calhoun Co. Only time will tell. Maybe she is not one of the good ole boys...LOL. Politics causes strange things to happen out of the norm when some one like the Sheriff is under scrutiny.
garmany54 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 07:39 PM
Lets talk about Judge Stedham you go into her court room things should be decided then not months down the road. Also if you all think she truely thinks of the best interest of the children you have to be joking yourself she looks for DHR to always make the decision not her what is wrong with that, I assumed that she got that position to do the right thing by what was right for the children and anyone to think DHR has your best interest for the children your definitly could not be so far from the truth they are so broke and paying very little to these foster parents to take care of someone's children and can you honestly say that they treat your children as they should be or how you as there parents would because the judge orders for DHR to come involved due to 2 parents not being able to get along for various reasons so the best response was to let the state take care of the children yeah right!!!!! Judges think they are GOD but I hate to tell you that your not!!!
John5299 wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 08:45 PM
LOL, Let's get rid of all these judges and put Judge Roy Bean in there. He would instead of choking juveniles have them hanged. Then there would be no more worries about what the juv's would do in the future. Ha Ha
justhetruth wrote on Friday, Apr 08 at 08:57 PM
Having had the opportunity to work in county government for many years, no one knows more about the court system than I do. I know who gets breaks and who gets railroaded. I am appauled that Judge Stedham had done what she has. This is a big mistake and the people will be the losers. In the time Judge Laura Phillips has been on the bench, only one complaint was filed and this was addressed to the satisfactory of the person complaining. I cannot say the same for Judge Brenda Steadham. Hardly a day goes by that she is not in someones face and if the election were to be held today, she would be beat worse than Judge Jones beat Judge Laird. Judge Steadham has the attitude that it is her way or the trailway. The governor made a big mistake by appointing her to this position and if she does not settle down and quit listening to DHR, there could be some children that will suffer and possible suffer bodily harm. The DA and Judge Phillips need to be commended for taking a stand against Sheriff Amerson. I know for certain he kept this program under wraps and only a few insiders were aware of it. He needs to go and go now. Judge Stedham needs to go or suffer impeachment for malfeasence/misfeasence. A lot of folks think she bought this job. A lot of folks also think Representative Randy Woods handpicked her. Why would they think this? Somewhere out there the truth floats around. Will the voters ever learn it? Maybe this is something the Anniston Star needs to do some inquiring about.
Generations wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 10:52 AM
Justthetruth makes the point. It is incestual at the courthouse. At-least the city council's crazy antics are tune in at your pleasure. This family court has problems. Just a glimpse here. These are women who can't practice law, becoming judges. Voters don' t know the difference. Statistics should be public periodically and still a grown up needs to insert themselves with these haggling women. House needs cleaning. DHR is prominent because the judges make them prominent. It is all they can spend money on. The kids suffer in their courts. But hey, we don't pay tax. Judges draw entitlement salaries. That is what it is really their motivation. Catfight. What about growing kids that won't be a societal burden now or into adulthood? If funds are tight now, you ain't seen nothing yet. May come a time where judges may have to consider societal implications. That would require independent thought. What is that?
Ima_Prose wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 10:41 PM
I know for a fact, Stedham went around the courthouse lobbying the other judges on Thursday morning after she had issued her executive order taking Judge Phillips' cases from her. Her excuse? "Just to let them know what was going on". Oh really? Was that her reason to run to the other judges or did she want to get to them "on her side" before Judge Phillips got back in town? Why did she feel the need to run to the other judges? I know at least one of them did not want to get involved in her games because I heard them say they would rather her keep it in family court, they had their own cases to deal with. I honestly think this judge didn't want to get caught up in Stedham's drama. The question that needs to be asked is this: How many of Stedham's rulings have been appealed and overturned? The public would be very surprised!
another1gone wrote on Saturday, Apr 09 at 10:55 PM
If Judge Stedham slipped around and did what Ima_Prose said she did, then there is no limit to what she will do or has already done to get her way. Judge Phillips has always been above board and does not have to slip around. Honesty is Judge Laura Phillips policy. An investigation needs to be launched or a complaint needs to be filed with the chief justice. Judge Stedham needs to go and now. If not, she will be defeated at the next election.
Grace333 wrote on Monday, Apr 11 at 08:48 PM
My Lord, God is still revealing all these officials in leadership around this county I had the exprience of being in the courtroom of Judge Stedham...The Lady Needs To Be Removed Immediately!! She has no concern for the kids of this county and every case she has in front of her is putting another child's life in Danger!! Just because of the way she runs her courtroom. She is guilty of siding with one parent simply because that parent's attorney is her friend. This attorney has even bragged that when her client comes before Judge Stedham they Win everytime!!! She is guilty of not even listening to what a child has to say even at the age of 13yrs of age and threaten the child with DHR of Coosa Valley if she complain about anything going on in the household she assigns her to!!! Is this a Judge that has any concern for our children? Judge Phillips always takes out the time to listen to the CHILD, which is what it's suppose to be about. That women is very EVIL and doesn't care who she walks on or hurt she needs to be in some kind of rehabilitation herself instead of trying to decide where to send somebody's child!! That is the reason she is going around the courthouse keeping Mess going because she has an Evil spirit. Judge Thompson has repect for everyone parent or child that comes in her courtroom regardless fo past mistakes!! One day this Women will have to stand be for THE JUDGE and be Judged for every child's life that she has destroyed , because she didn't seek God before making a decision , but seeked her own EVIL mind!! Nobody voted for this This Monter was given to us!!! HELP!!!
Grace333 wrote on Monday, Apr 11 at 11:02 PM
Sorry I meant to say Judge Laura Phillps not Judge Thompson. And by the way is she Head Judge or something? How is she able to take cases away from another Judge? Somebody needs to sit her DOWN!!
newshound1921 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 13 at 01:39 PM
newshound1921 wrote on Wednesday, Apr 13 at 01:46 PM
Anyone who claims to know "everything" going on in our court system, or the Family Court in particular, is guilty of wishful thinking. Even the people who work there don’t make that claim.
Judges Stedham and Phillips handle thousands of cases each year, and they always have a stack of files to review and orders to write and sign when they are not in the courtroom. Further, many of the cases that come before them are difficult, with totally conflicting testimony about what happened, or differences of opinions between experts as to what the Judge should do. Many cases do not have easy answers; some don’t have answers. The only that's easy is sitting on the sidelines throwing rocks when you're not on the playing field.
Commentators can criticize DHR all they want, it's an underfunded agency with a huge case load. The great majority, if not all, of its personnel are excellent and care a great deal about the families and children whose lives they have to deal with. A few don't. That's true of any organization of its size, public or private.
The citizens who come into court, especially the Family court, take things personally. That's understandable, the stakes are high and the situations involved generate a great deal of emotion long before they get to a hearing before one of our Judges. That does not equate to "the Judge is wrong" or "the system is broken" (although some parts of it are, which parts depend on who you ask) or, my favorite, "I had the wrong lawyer". Sure, some lawyers do better than others, but have you considered that those lawyers may be the ones who prepare their cases and witnesses better, try their cases better, and know the law better than the other side? I'd rather have great facts on my side than lousy facts and a "connected" lawyer. In a very close case, maybe it’ll turn the result, but might that be because the Judge has more confidence and trust in that lawyer than in the other?
And the Governor did not appoint Judge Stedham. The Republican Party of Alabama, acting through its Executive Committee, chaired by Rep. Mike Hubbard (now Speaker of the House Hubbard), selected Judge Stedham as the party's nominee for that slot after the Party disqualified the primary winner for failing to timely file a required campaign financial report. You can look up the Supreme Court's decision, Bryan v. Hubbard.
If what the Star printed is accurate, we're still not certain why Judge Stedham took the action she took. Was it because of concern that juveniles in the system were being sent to the jail program without the Judges knowing about it? Was it something else? Was it a combination of things?
In life there are many truths, and sometimes they don't agree. We never know what's in someone else's mind unless they tell us, and even then, that may not be "the truth" because we humans are not always as self-knowing as we might think we are, or would like to be. If we were, psychologists, counselors, and the rest of the mental health profession could close their offices and go fishing.
If you want to help, support an organization that you believe does something good for the community, and in particular one that supports and helps families with children. It's not debatable that Alabama does not fund social services (and many other things) at the level other states do. People believe (because generations of political candidates have told them) that Alabamians are over-taxed; the data to the contrary is overwhelming. But history has shown that it’s easier to sell a big lie than a small one.
Judges Stedham & Phillips are honest and good Judges trying to do their best with what they have to work with. They don’t claim to be perfect, or right in everything they do. They know they’re not always right, they just don’t know when that is. They don't need rock throwers, they need people to try to resolve their differences so that the Judges don't have to do it for them; they need people to take responsibility for their actions; they need more funding and more staff support. We all have opinions about courts and crime, but I haven't seen anyone volunteering to help pay for programs that might help with these problems. It would be nice if the Judges agreed on everything. It would be even nicer if we did too, then the Judges wouldn’t have so many divorces, custody battles, juvenile proceedings, and abuse cases pouring in on them.
And Sheriff Amerson, whatever you may think about him, has an extremely difficult job, just as his predecessor did and just as his successor, whoever and whenever that is, will have. The Sheriff has to take the people the system orders locked up and house and feed them on pennies when he should have dollars. He has to do the same thing in providing law enforcement in a large geographical area with way too few deputies and cars to do it.
The disgrace isn't the politics of being a Judge or Sheriff, if you didn't want politics involved, why don’t you ask the law to be changed so that judges, sheriffs, district attorneys, the clerk of court, etc., no longer have to run for office on partisan tickets? You think they like doing that? You’re out of your mind; running for office and having deal with us, the public, is as exhausting as it is impoverishing.
The disgrace is our unwillingness to support and adequately fund the facilities that must deal with the members of our "community" who are poor, who are troubled and disturbed, and those who just plain do bad things. It's so much cheaper to provide help before someone ends up in the justice system than it is afterward.
So think before you trash somebody, you may not know all the facts, and your perception may be flawed. After all, the thousands of voters that put the current Anniston City Council members in office thought they were doing the right thing at the time, didn't they?
ForChrist wrote on Wednesday, Apr 13 at 03:41 PM
Well said newshound1921
I hope people take time to really consider what you have said. But sadly rational arugments based upon ample evidence will not change the minds of some people.
HowWordHues wrote on Thursday, Apr 14 at 07:29 AM
Newshound 1921,
I totally agree with every word you said.
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Innocent until proven guilty (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12795921/article-Innocent-until-proven-guilty?)
by our readers · Anniston Star
Apr 15, 2011
Why is it that when a public official does something that some people consider wrong or criminal that everyone automatically wants them to resign or be arrested? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
In my opinion, Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson has the same rights as everyone else. The video clip that everyone saw is not the whole story, it is only a small glimpse of what happened. The only ones who know the whole story are the juvenile, the sheriff and God.
If the juvenile was there for some sort of program, then it is obvious he did something wrong to be there or else his parent(s) would not have put him there. I feel that is what is wrong with the youth of today; they are allowed to get away with everything without facing the consequences.
If I did something wrong when I was younger, I got a good, old-fashioned whipping. If anyone ever had to go outside and get their own hickory, then they know what I am talking about. We need to learn the whole story before calling for the sheriff's resignation or arresting him. Also, we need to stop coddling the youth of today and hold them accountable for their actions.
James Mink
Heflin
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JustPlainBill wrote on Friday, Apr 15 at 11:46 AM
Attacking a handcuffed prisoner physically and it was caught on tape. If the prisoner had been a Donoho graduate with influencial parents the sheriff would have been history the next day.
jthomas1979 wrote on Friday, Apr 15 at 12:12 PM
I agree 100% with James Mink! This story and all the comments posted concerning it has disgusted me for several days now.
The woman placed her child in the "custody" of the county jail, apparently because she couldn't handle him and needed SOMEONE ELSE to deal with his behavioral issues.
I've watched the video and I didn't see choking or attacking. I saw the Sheriff forcing the boy to look him in the eyes while he communicated with him because the boy had his head turned the opposite direction from the Sheriff.
I do understand that there are several ways to veiw this short film that we have all seen and that's just all of us being different humans. The way I see it is in no way defensive because I think the Sheriff is a good person, because I don't know him pesonally.
But like James Mink is stating: why is the Sheriff automatically guilty?
The boy is so far out of control that his own parent can't do anything with him, but he should be treated with upmost respect while spending his day at the county jail.
I bet the boy has never been sent to get his own "hickory" a day in his life...
downindixie wrote on Saturday, Apr 16 at 09:41 AM
I've watched the video and I didn't see choking or attacking. I saw the Sheriff forcing the boy to look him in the eyes while he communicated with him because the boy had his head turned the opposite direction from the Sheriff.
Yes and forcing the boy to physically turn head is a law violation! Oh an if he forced the boy turn turn toward the Sheriff,then the boy must not have been trying to spit in the Sheriff!
By the way I have the freedom according to the constitution to express my opinion as you do!
arizonagirl wrote on Saturday, Apr 16 at 10:45 AM
Mr. Mink, downindixie, jthomas1979:
In our 'free' country, most American citizens truly believe that in regards to an arrest, we are 'innocent until proven guilty'....well, this is not the case.
Especially in Calhoun County, Al.
If one is arrested in Calhoun County and charged with a crime, they are "guilty and the burden of proof is on them to prove their innocence".
So, WHY should the 'sherrif' and I use that term lightly..be treated any different.
He 'Amerson' has broken the laws of our Constitution, and I am appauled that he has not been subject to the requirements of others who break the law.
If he were 'truly' a man of honesty and integrity, which is is NOT, he would either resign or take a leave of absence until this mess can be setteled.
But he will not do this, because he is such a dishonest man that he is terrified to do this for fear that everything he has done while in this 'position' will be found out.
He broke the law, so he should be treated as ALL US Citizens are supposed to be treated, or as they are treated in Calhoun County-- rough, with disrespect,their families are treated very unkindly, and should have to go through the process as regular citizens do.
This is one of the greatest threats to our society...those in power will do anything to continue their reign of power and corruption, and anyone who believes that ALL ARE EQUAL under the law, including Amerson!
licketysplit wrote on Thursday, Apr 21 at 10:21 AM
@jthomas1979: if you would take the time to read the Alabama Criminal Code regarding use of physical force, to include the part regarding law enforcement officers/people detained in a detention facility...then you would better understand why everyone is making such a big deal out of this. His behavior was unacceptable as a law enforcement professional and had a patrol officer or correctional officer behaved the same way and exposed to the media, he or she would have been fired. I will agree that this child has never been sent to get his own "hickory" a day in his life but why does the Sheriff have to carry the burden of his parents' shortcomings by disciplining him? Shouldn't that be left to the parents?
@downindixie: Yes you have the freedom of speech, as do I. You obviously haven't read the AL Criminal Code either. So what if the boy didn't look at the Sheriff when he was being "talked to?" That's a crime? That warrants being grabbed and intimidated by a use of force? I thought the police were here to serve and protect...not harass and intimidate. THAT'S what I see in this video...intimidation.
@arizonagirl: You are spot on with your comments!
Why is he allowed to retain his position? Why hasn't he been forced to step down at least temporarily and let his Chief Deputy hold down the fort until this matter has been resolved?
Because he has the power. He IS the law. Calhoun County needs a major overhaul in the law enforcement and jail administration departments.
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Calls for Sheriff Amerson's resignation are again expressed through organized protest:
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In Zinn Park Saturday, second protest calls on Sheriff Amerson to resign (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12823011/article-In-Zinn-Park-Saturday--second-protest-calls-on-Sheriff-Amerson-to-resign?)
by Laura Johnson · Star Staff Writer · Anniston Star
Apr 17, 2011
State Rep. Barbara Boyd, D-Anniston, told a crowd of about two dozen at a rally Saturday afternoon in Zinn Park that she believes Sheriff Larry Amerson has covered up instances of excessive force and abuse at the Calhoun County Jail.
She was one of a series of speakers at the second protest in the aftermath of the publication of video showing Amerson using manual force against a juvenile.
Boyd told the crowd she has heard personal accounts of abuse from people imprisoned at area jails — although she offered no documentary evidence for those claims — and said she believes those accounts are accurate.
She said Amerson has tried to convince her otherwise.
"I have gone in there to the sheriff in many occasions," Boyd said. "They have looked me dead in the eye and assured me that this kind of behavior did not go on."
Boyd said the courts should be relied upon to determine whether Amerson is guilty or innocent of the claims made in an ongoing federal lawsuit, but the event's organizers were calling for his resignation. It was one in a series of protests expected during the spring and summer by Operation Human Rights and the Center for Progress in Alabama, representatives from the groups said.
"It is time for the citizens to say 'Sheriff Amerson must go,' " said Jason Childs, state director for the Center for Progress. "Not tomorrow, but today."
Amerson could not be reached directly for comment, but via email the sheriff's office provided a statement: "For more than sixteen years, Sheriff Larry Amerson has conducted the business of the Office of Sheriff in a lawful, honorable, and race neutral manner. His record is clear. In the matter of the recent controversy, Sheriff Amerson has requested an outside investigation as he is not allowed to speak directly on the issue. He is following the law and urges everyone to allow the system to work."
While at the event organizers also collected signatures of those calling for Amerson's resignation.
Some are also calling for criminal charges against the sheriff. Abdul H. Khalil'llah, director Operation Human Rights, has also called for criminal charges to be filed against the sheriff in a letter addressed to the United States Attorney's Office.
Onlookers pooled in clusters to listen on the lawn around the front patio of a city recreation center at the corner of Zinn Park. Many of them stood, arms crossed, as the voices of Boyd, Childs and Anniston City Councilman Ben Little spoke against the sheriff. Amplified over a microphone, the speakers' urgent tones competed with the lighter sounds of a unrelated community event nearby — barbeque and shouts echoing from a dunking booth.
Among the crowd of participants was Antonio Phillips, attending with his wife and four children. He said the sheriff had abused his authority.
"I feel he should step down. I feel that's the only logical thing," said Phillips. "He knew he was wrong. He knew he got caught."
Star staff writer Laura Johnson: 256-235-3544.
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Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12823011/article-In-Zinn-Park-Saturday--second-protest-calls-on-Sheriff-Amerson-to-resign?) left for the above article, "In Zinn Park Saturday, second protest calls on Sheriff Amerson to resign (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=401411#p401348)" (by Laura Johnson; Apr 17, 2011; The Anniston Star):
[email protected] wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 08:40 AM
I just saw the coverage of this protest on Fox 6 News. The protesters were using the Project Pay building to promote the demonstration. This building is owned by the City of Anniston. When did the City of Anniston start sponsoring protests and allowing protesters to use their buildings? I'd like an answer Ben Little. Who authorized them to use a City of Anniston property to protest the Sheriff? This seems unethical.
catbird572 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:27 AM
I saw the same coverage, and, in my opinion as well, Ben Little owes an explanation to the citizens of Anniston, and the city of Anniston owes one to the general public for letting a loose cannon like Little to continue this outrageous behavior he has engaged in during his tenure as Councilman. The good citizens of Anniston who are FED UP with the current Mayor and Clowncil should respectfully, and publically request the former Mayors to come out of their political 'retirement' to fill all five of these offices at the next election, so that we still have half a chance of getting Anniston back on track, before these buffoons do irrepairable damage to the city's reputation.
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:37 AM
Little ben already has his hands in somebody's pockets hoping for a settlement. Piece of garbage, along with the rest of those "protesters." None of those people have any interest in seeing justice, they just want a piece of the pot when they thuggishly boot a white official out of office. They tried the same thing with the Anniston PD when the former chief retired, so they could get some leftwing thug chief in. None of these people have any morals, especially Little Ben. I say GOOD JOB sheriff, law enforcement should be able to go "hands on" any time they so choose! the crime rate would be a LOT lower if when you break the law you get a PROPER skin up, instead on a slap on the hand by some liberal judge. VOTE THEM OUT!
votethemout wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:55 AM
Maybe Little or some of the protesters could take the poor troubled teen into THEIR home for guidance. I wonder how long they'd put up with him in thier household.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:13 PM
If Larry Amerson were a decent human being he would step down pending the conclusion of this investigation because there is enough definitive evidence on the video that he practices totally unnecessary police brutality.
HowWordHues wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:25 PM
Everyone deserves their day in court, even the Sheriff. I wouldn't resign either just because a bunch of folks are calling for it. Heck, a lot of people have been calling for Ben Little to resign and that hasn't happened.
There are 2 sides to every story. No one, and I mean no one knows what went on other than the Sheriff,that young man and God. People can talk, speculate, put in their own 2 cents but it still doesn't make it the truth.
Read Bible passage John 8.
Passage John 8 in the Bible.
coonhunter911 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:54 PM
Nobody likes a quitter!
As a result Amerson can't resign! Then he wouldn't get a fair trial!
As his unappointed and unknown legal aid rep I would advise him not too!
only1
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 05:39 PM
@scarlet-
What constitutes police brutality? You are throwing around the words like they mean nothing. ANY law enforcement officer has the legal right to defend himself or herself against an assault,whether the person is handcuffed, shackled or whatever. And according to Alabama state law, spitting on someone IS an assault. People go to jail for it all the time. You are just a bandwagon riding hypocritical liar. Let someone spit in your face and I guarantee you would be screaming for police to throw that person in jail. I think that the sheriff exercised amazing restraint by not beating that punk senseless.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 07:49 PM
OperationCleanSlate The video speaks for itself. Where do you get the information that the boy spit in his face? It appears that the boy was trying to move away from him. At what point, in the video do you see this? I'm sure Amerson wouldn't voluntarily step-down even if found guilty but there should be an organization in the county such as the county commission who could do this for him. It's people like you that give the state a bad name nation wide with these red neck ideas.
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 09:32 PM
scarlet, perhaps if you did not rely solely on the star to form your opinion you would know that the boy did what he did. you can see it clearly if you look at the video objectively, but you and so many like you are not capable of that. you are on a witch hunt and likely will tarnish the good name of Amerson. He has been and will continue to be a great example of what a sheriff should be, and has likely turned down many other jobs in much higher paying places to stay with calhoun county. I respect the man and know that he is innocent of any wrong doing. You live in your little bubble of safety and have no idea what it takes to do what law enforcement officers do daily. Amerson was trying to correct mistakes that were obviously made by the boys family, and sometimes that takes more than what some people want to admit. The fact is, you can monday morning quarterback some blurry video all you want, but you and i were not there. Don't we live in such a grand country where people have the freedom to bash officials without cause or merit? The family of this boy doesn't truly care what happened, all they see are dollar signs, and that is perpetuated by corrupt people like ben little and the rest of you that jumped on the bandwagon. I just ask that you research and get all the facts that you can before you make outrageous statements in public forum and embarrass yourself.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:20 PM
OperationCleanSlate I'm not embarrassed it should be Sheriff Amerson and his supporters of this outrageous behavior that should be embarrassed. The last time I checked there still is a constitution that provides for civil rights and the right not to be beaten unjustly by law enforcement officials.
HowWordHues wrote on Monday, Apr 18 at 07:05 AM
scarllett5,
You state that there is a constitution that provides for civil rights. Yes that is true. You seem to have forgotten that rights go both ways. The Sheriff is not on trial but some people already have him convicted.
Ever heard of the term, "innocent until proven guilty"?
licketysplit wrote on Thursday, Apr 21 at 11:02 AM
Ben Little spoke out against the Sheriff? Isn't that like Satan calling a demon "evil?"
anniston1 wrote on Thursday, Apr 28 at 10:55 AM
Ben Little and his crew can organize a huge group to protest or march any day of the week. I am just wondering if he organized his group today to help in the recovery efforts of all of the communities devastated by these tornadoes. I sure hope he did. They should all come together to HELP someone instead of always protesting against them.
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This article continues the saga of family court Judge Brenda Stedham seizing control (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&start=45#p401152) over sentencing decisions which potentially involve alternative programs such as the controversial "Success Academy" at the Calhoun County Jail:
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Circuit judge: Juvenile drug court program will continue (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12822922/article-Circuit-judge--Juvenile-drug-court-program-will-continue?)
by Cameron Steele · Star Staff Writer · Anniston Star
Apr 17, 2011
The presiding family court judge for Calhoun and Cleburne counties said she plans to continue operating and sending youthful offenders to juvenile drug court, and the chief juvenile probation officer says she has the authority to do so under Alabama law.
Judge Brenda Stedham of the 7th Circuit decided last week to oversee all juvenile delinquency and dependency cases and all alternative sentencing programs for juveniles, such as the drug court.
Stedham's move prompted Calhoun County District Attorney Brian McVeigh to announce he would temporarily discontinue prosecutorial referrals of juveniles to drug court and adults to family drug court until he knew more about how the programs would operate under Stedham.
But court officials said Tuesday that section 12-15-215 of Alabama law gives Stedham, as the presiding judge in juvenile court, the ultimate authority to send youthful offenders to drug court or other alternative programs, even if an attorney objects to the court's decision.
The code reads that the juvenile court has the right to order juvenile delinquents to "local, public, or private agency, organization, or facility willing and able to assume the education, care, and maintenance of the child and which is licensed or otherwise authorized by law to receive and provide care for children."
The code states that the juvenile court can "make any other order as the juvenile court in its discretion shall deem to be for the welfare and best interests of the child, including random drug screens, assessment of fines not to exceed two hundred fifty dollars ($250), and restitution against the parent, legal guardian, legal custodian, or child, as the juvenile court deems appropriate."
She can...
"Under the state code of Alabama, the judge has the authority to order any child or any family under the jurisdiction of this court into any program under the jurisdiction of this court, including drug courts; it is totally her decision," Chief Juvenile Probation Officer Randy Reaves said. "Once Judge Stedham took it over, it is her sole responsibility ... other people can make recommendations as to whether they think it's appropriate or not appropriate, but it is the sole decision of Judge Stedham."
McVeigh said Monday that his only comment was to reiterate that — for now — prosecutors would not refer juveniles to the juvenile drug court or other alternative sentencing programs until he had a better understanding of what, if anything, about the programs would change under Stedham's leadership.
Stedham said she and McVeigh have talked "at least once about how there will be no change to the programs" other than that she plans to supervise them. McVeigh declined to comment.
Those programs were started six years ago by Judge Laura Phillips, the district judge for family court. Phillips ran the programs and oversaw half of the area juvenile delinquency cases until Stedham's decision.
Phillips said last week that she was under the impression that the juvenile and family drug courts could not continue without the stamp of approval from the DA.
...or she can't?
Another section of Alabama law seems to suggest that drug court programs must have the DA's consent, seemingly contradicting what Reaves said about Stedham having ultimate decision-making authority as to whether delinquent juveniles will be enrolled in a drug court program.
The Alabama Drug Offender Accountability Act of 2010, section 12-23 of Alabama law, states "the presiding judge of each judicial circuit, with the consent of the district attorney of that judicial circuit, may establish a drug court or courts, under which drug offenders shall be processed, to appropriately address the identified substance abuse problem of- the drug offender as a condition of pretrial release, pretrial diversion, probation, jail, prison, parole, community corrections, or other release or diversion from a correctional facility."
But both Reaves and Stedham said Tuesday that state law specifically applies to adult courts and has no bearing on what happens in juvenile court.
Stedham said the language used in the 2010 act applied only to adult offenders, noting that adult facilities like "jail" and "prison" were mentioned in the law but that the code made no specific mention of juvenile detention or the Department of Youth Services.
Also, the law defines "drug court" as a "judicial intervention program for drug offenders in the criminal division of the circuit or district court," but makes no specific mention of juvenile court.
Still, the law doesn't specifically exclude juvenile drug courts or juvenile offenders either, and it states that "all drug courts shall comply with this act."
Deciding to act
Phillips said Monday she still has no idea why Stedham used her authority as presiding judge in family court to take the drug courts out from under Phillips' supervision, especially because she was the person who sought funding for and helped to create the programs in the first place.
Stedham and Phillips have talked about the changes only once since Stedham issued a statement last Thursday.
For her part, Stedham has said she made the decision to better ensure "that juveniles are being dealt with properly" and "that each juvenile's civil rights will be fully protected."
Stedham told The Star she could not comment on whether her decision was related to a Calhoun County Sheriff's Office program that allowed suspended-from-school students and juvenile offenders to spend time at the county jail, wearing inmate jumpsuits and performing menial tasks at the request of corrections officers.
That program is tied to a recently published video that shows Sheriff Larry Amerson using manual force on a shackled and handcuffed juvenile who participated in that program. The FBI is investigating that video and a federal lawsuit filed against Amerson makes allegations that juveniles who participated in the jail program came into contact with inmates.
The value of sentencing options
Phillips said the juvenile and family drug courts she ran had nothing to do with the Sheriff's Office program and were models for other drug courts in the state.
"I'm extraordinarily passionate about my kids and my family drug courts," Phillips said. "I'm dedicated to that; I honestly don't know why this has happened."
Phillips said the juvenile and family drug courts also save the Department of Youth Services and the Department of Human Resources time and money by successfully rehabilitating kids and parents with drug problems for less than it would cost those two state agencies to do so.
It costs about $100,000 a year to run both drug courts, Phillips said. And the juvenile drug court has helped to reduce the juvenile recidivism rate, said Cyndi Haynes, the drug courts coordinator.
Haynes said that out of the 50 juveniles who went through the drug court in 2010, 78 percent have not committed another delinquent act. But Haynes couldn't provide numbers about what the recidivism rate is for juvenile delinquents who do not attend drug court programs and are instead committed to DYS care.
DYS spokesman Allen Peaton said Tuesday that he can't specifically speak to how well drug court programs work in terms of reducing juvenile recidivism but did verify those types of alternative sentencing programs save money for state detention facilities for juveniles.
He said, in general, it costs between $135 and $145 per day per juvenile who is simply detained in one those facilities, not to mention any in-house rehabilitation costs DYS might incur while that juvenile is there.
Both Peaton and Peter Johnson, a retired Birmingham judge and the chairman of the Alabama Drug Court Task Force, agreed with Haynes that alternative sentencing programs and juvenile drug courts are more effective in many ways than incarceration because their focus is on rehabilitation.
"All of the national research and literature suggest kids do better in programs within the home communities; the outcomes are consistently better," Peaton said.
Johnson noted that 16 Alabama counties now have family and juvenile drug courts and 57 counties have adult drug courts.
Keeping the programs alive
Stedham emphasized Monday it was not her intent to do away with the drug courts already in place.
"I plan to continue and to evaluate the programs to see if they need to be modified or if they are working well just the way they are," Stedham said. "I think once the prosecutors realize that there's no major change being made other than the judge who's being assigned to those drug courts, yes, I think they'll cooperate and be willing to agree."
McVeigh said Calhoun and Cleburne counties have benefited from Phillips' work in establishing the programs for juveniles and in seeking and obtaining funding for those programs.
"Those programs are a vital part today of our juvenile court system," McVeigh said.
Stedham and Phillips have both expressed that sentiment, too.
"They continue to operate just as they operated two weeks ago until I make some different determination, and I have no interest in terminating them," Stedham said.
Star staff writer Cameron Steele: 256-235-3562.
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A coupla lengthy comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12822922/article-Circuit-judge--Juvenile-drug-court-program-will-continue?) left for the above article, "Circuit judge: Juvenile drug court program will continue (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=401457#p401440)" (by Cameron Steele; Apr 17, 2011; The Anniston Star):
Generations wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 09:54 AM
The presiding judge obviously has problems with Phillips. This we should know why. The public is prohibited from seeing how she works, but it is clear Phillips has been doing this a long time. Order DHR do this, order Sheriff to do that. Order drug court. Assembly line and kids land where they may. Consequences long term? Spending money left and right and strive for children to remain on welfare? Welfare that is going away. It is what the book says, right judge? Costing society what? Maybe it is time for her to enter the private sector and run her own business, rather than kid's business, at taxpayer expense. Judgeships seem to be the family business. Her sister has already switched to the Republican party to ensure reelection to her judgeship. Opportunistic, huh? Phillips should provide some answers. So far, Phillips is just moaning loss of authority, which is telling. WHY did Stedham do this, Phillips? Answer the question. Something you usually don't have to do, huh? McVeigh is coming across as an ally. Does DA McVeigh really want to do this? Maybe he can answer the question for you. Be accountable. Is it personal? It is just kids. If it is personal, maybe you and Stedham both need to get out of there. Still seems like infighting. With children at stake. Otherwise, why would Judge Stedham have taken such an abrupt action. It was in the public interest (God knows the public or political party knows best) to make Stedham presiding judge. Perhaps to help prevent Phillips from destroying lives? Does the presiding judge not know what she is doing? Then why is she there? If Phillips did not know she had a rogue program with a rogue Sheriff's office, completely behind the Commissions (taxpayers) back, what does that make her? Incompetent at best. What code section covers that, Judge Phillips? What precedent covers that? Are you overwhelmed? Should you resign? Surely, it is not personal. Surely you are not just a hanger on to draw judicial retirement. Not with so much on the line.
newshound1921 wrote on Tuesday, Apr 19 at 04:53 PM
One thing about a public forum is the freedom to say what you want. That doesn't make it accurate. The prior post is long on accusation and short on information.
One matter can be answered: Judge Stedham is the Presiding Family Court Judge because that is the “slot” office she holds. Our Circuit and District Court positions, when created, are specific. Judge Stedham hold the only Family Court slot filled by a Circuit Court Judge, hence she is the presiding Family Court Judge. Judge Jack Hughes held that slot for a long period of time, then current District Judge Bankson held it for 2 years.
Judge Phillips' slot is a District Judge slot (the District Court is a very important position, but it does not have the broad powers of a Circuit Court). Judge Phillips' slot has been for years a second Family Court judgeship in our courthouse. That slot was held for many years by R. Allen Crow. Judge Phillips was appointed to the slot by Gov. Riley when Judge Crow retired before the end of the term he was serving. Two years later, Judge Phillips was elected, without opposition, to a full 6 year term. She’s pretty qualified for the job, having served as an Asst. DA for a number of years, and knowing a great deal about the justice system.
And I don't understand the comments about "order this, order that". That's what courts do: issue Orders. That what Judges do: write Orders.
You do Judge Phillips, and the community she works very hard to serve, a disservice by your comments. I don't know the dynamics of what transpires at the courthouse, and really don't care to know. Both Judges are honest, hard working, and trying to do the right thing. Even if there is a disagreement between them, they still try to do the right thing. They make mistakes; we all do. And don't expect Judges to always agree; putting on a black robe does not mean you're suddenly immune to making mistakes and other human behavior. And if Judges didn’t make mistakes, why would we need courts of appeals and supreme courts (which also make mistakes).
Your attack on Brian McVeigh is equally undeserved and unfounded. He was the Chief Asst. DA for years, and has a lengthy track record easily available to anyone who asks one or two of the dozens of lawyers who engage in criminal defense work as part of their practice. I wouldn't expect them all to love him, but I would be very surprised if they had negative opinions of his character, or the motives behind his actions. My understanding is that he is a straight shooter, and a darn good prosecutor. A District Attorney prosecutes, and usually convicts, people who didn't want to be prosecuted and convicted. There are always people who will speak ill of the DA. Our area has had the good fortune to have had excellent District Attorneys for decades in Bob Field and then Joe Hubbard (and if anyone in the courthouse ever worked harder than Joe Hubbard, it's a well kept secret), and Brian McVeigh is quite likely to be just like them. Joe Hubbard would never have made Brian McVeigh the Chief Assistant DA if Brian wasn't qualified and capable.
If you are interested in the people whose lives are affected by the Family Court, like the children you mention, how about contacting your state legislators and telling them how much more could be done for those children and families if the Family Court were adequately funded, which it is not? Then Judges wouldn't have to spend time securing funding for things like Drug Courts, which keep our children out of juvenile incarceration facilities where they would preyed upon by the worst of the worst.
No offense intended, I think 90% of the public here and across the nation has no idea how bad things are in the justice system, civil and criminal, youth and adult. It’s lack of money, and lack of interest. The judiciary is supposed to be a third branch of government equal to the Executive and Legislative branches. But when you look at the funding each branch gets, the judicial system gets next to nothing by comparison. We all want what we want, but do we want to pay for what we want? No, we don't.
Most folks don't know and don't care about the judicial or justice system until they or a loved one becomes involved in it. Then it's baptism by fire, and it's sad that some people emerge feeling burned. Some of that is unavoidable, the rest is avoidable, but it takes people and money.
When we don't understand how a system functions, it's understandable, and easy, to blame the people whose faces we saw. The reality of judicial systems, ours included, is not black and white, it's a hundred shades of gray with too few people trying to push too many case results away from darkness and towards the light. It would be great if those people had more help, and more support from us. Even when they're wrong.
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Another Letter to the Editor...
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Star misportrayed Amerson (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12904484/article-Star-misportrayed-Amerson?)
by our readers · Anniston Star
Apr 24, 2011
I am deeply disappointed in The Star's obvious bias in recent articles about Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson. The coward who furnished the video to The Star hides behind a cloak of anonymity, while attempting to destroy the career of a man who has spent his entire adult life keeping your family safe.
I have known Amerson for more than 30 years, and he is not the man The Star has attempted to paint him to be.
Jack Amberson
Alexandria
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Yet another Letter to the Editor from the Sheriff Amerson Fan Club...
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Amerson's actions were justified (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12904478/article-Amerson%E2%80%99s-actions-were-justified?)
by our readers · Anniston Star
Apr 24, 2011
I have known Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson all his life; we ran around together and went to school together. Larry, like all of us, has faults. However, what he is being accused of, I simply cannot believe. If you look at the facts in the case, I will be proven correct.
First, Larry did not have anything to gain by admitting this kid to the program at the jail. There is no money to be made and no incentives to be gained by Larry or the Sheriff's Department. Larry was only trying to help a parent with an unruly child. The parent voluntarily enrolled and dropped the child off to participate in the program.
Could more restraint have been shown? Certainly. Could more force have been used? Certainly. Emotions can be high when you are trying to save a child from a life of possible imprisonment. In Larry's position, he has certainly seen it all, young and old, lives devastated by crime. Could "just one" have been saved by realizing they should change the road they are going down? I personally commend Larry for the restraint he did show.
Kids need to realize that any jail is not a good place, there is no future there, and they should be deterred from going in that direction.
Amerson will go down as the best sheriff Calhoun County has ever had.
Thank you, Larry, for the great job you do in providing protection and support for Calhoun County.
Jeff Dickerson
Ohatchee
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...I personally commend Larry for the restraint he did show.
Kids need to realize that any jail is not a good place, there is no future there, and they should be deterred from going in that direction.
Amerson will go down as the best sheriff Calhoun County has ever had.
Thank you, Larry, for the great job you do in providing protection and support for Calhoun County.
Let's go back over some of the pertinent FACTS in this case:
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[li]Not convicted of any crime,
[li]Handcuffed,[/li]
[li]Shackled,[/li]
[li]14 years old, and[/li]
[li]Not offering any resistance.[/li][/list][/li][/list]
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A comment (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12904478/article-Amerson%E2%80%99s-actions-were-justified?) left for the above Letter to the Editor, "Amerson's actions were justified (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=401625#p401599)" (by Jeff Dickerson; Apr 24, 2011; The Anniston Star):
licketysplit wrote on Tuesday, May 10 at 11:21 AM
The only thing Mr. Dickerson is going to be proven of is his inability to research what justifies the use of force regarding detainees and the use of force by law enforcement personnel.
The Sheriff exercised restraint? Are you blind?
Could more force be used? Not legally. As a matter of fact, he overdid it.
I am a former jailer. If one of us had been caught on tape doing as much as Sheriff Amerson did, we would have been fired on the spot once it had been revealed. No matter what the kid did, he was in restraints. Any use of force is a major no-no. Don't believe me? Look up the State of Alabama use of force...you can find it online.
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Former Anniston Star editor Paul Rilling, now retired, chimes in with his sage assessment of how news coverage has been of late:
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Paul Rilling: Star did its job fairly (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12998264/article-Paul-Rilling--Star-did-its-job-fairly?)
Anniston Star
Apr 29, 2011
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A sensitive and complex story reported by The Star in April concerned a brief video showing Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson using manual force on a restrained person (March 31, Page 1A). Seven additional articles followed, all by Cameron Steele (May 1 through May 7).
There was criticism of The Star's coverage by the sheriff and by several readers. Star Editor Bob Davis defended the paper's reporting in his column (April 3, 3E).
The video was provided to The Star by a "source requesting anonymity." Newspapers avoid anonymous source stories when possible. When a paper uses such information, it usually tells the readers why the source didn't want to be identified and provides some information about the source. The Star did none of this in this story.
Davis wrote in his column, "...[i ]n our judgment, the video in question stood alone as a moment in time, regardless of its source." The judgment was sound. The video was newsworthy regardless of the credibility or the motives of the anonymous source.
Alabama law seeks to protect juveniles from public identification. Amerson said The Star was placing itself "above the law" by showing the face of the other person involved in the video, a juvenile. On this point, you can judge for yourself by viewing the video on The Star's website. The Star digitally altered the face in the video. Can you see the person clearly enough to identify him? I could not.
Lindsey Gilliam, director of Family Links, a social agency that works closely with the sheriff's office, told The Star, "I think the sheriff is being cast in a negative light." She may be right. The repetition of the details shown in the video in story after story may create a negative impression.
However, the May 1 article was a clear effort to show fairness. It included a series of favorable character references about Amerson by people who know him and have worked closely with him. The sheriff did not talk freely with the media to provide his side of the incident because of possible litigation in the case.
Did The Star have to report the details of the video in every story? Maybe not, but journalists are trained to write each story as complete, because some readers have not read the previous articles.
Readers James Mink of Heflin and Thomas Bryant of Weaver were right in their letters to Speak Out. Mink wrote that, "The video clip that everyone saw is not the whole story, it is only a small glimpse of what happened." Wrote Bryant, "... [W]e have not heard 'the rest of the story.' "
A newspaper can only publish what it can find out. It can't hold the story for weeks or months until "the rest of the story" is available. In covering this story, The Star did its job as fairly as it could.
More detail needed
Two stories in April reported efforts by members of the board of trustees of the retirement fund for Anniston police officers and firefighters to work with the Anniston City Council to resolve the financial problems of the fund (April 14 and 22, both 1A).
The stories, by Steele, included much information about the fund's finances, but told readers little about how the fund operates. How many members serve on its board of trustees? How are they selected? Who makes investment decisions?
As mentioned above, it is standard practice for one story on a subject to include information from an earlier story so readers are up to date. The April 22 story quoted eight paragraphs from the April 14 story verbatim, a questionable way of providing background.
Name the reporter
The slander suit by Anniston resident Curtis Ray against Anniston Mayor Gene Robinson over an alleged Robinson remark was tried and ended in a not-guilty jury verdict (April 19, 20, 21 and 22). The stories, by Laura Johnson and Laura Camper, provided good trial coverage. The pre-story, April 19, which summarized the background of the case, did not mention a key point in Robinson's defense, that he now denies making the remark to a Star reporter about "black corruption," which led to the suit. The second story, April 20, reported that Robinson filed an affidavit in December 2010 denying making the remark.
The trial included numerous references to the former Star reporter who wrote the original story quoting Robinson's comment. But, oddly, the reporter was never named. In his column after the trial, Editor Davis mentioned the reporter by name, Megan Nichols, and said he had recently exchanged e-mails with her (April 24, 3E). Why was her name never mentioned during the trial coverage? Was there some sort of legal problem?
Paul Rilling is a retired former editor at The Star.
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And... another Letter to the Editor from the Sheriff Amerson Fan Club...
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The Anniston Star · Alabama
Blame where it belongs (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/13064795/article-Blame-where-it-belongs?)
by our readers · Anniston Star
May 02, 2011
What I saw on the video was a clear case of a young man out of control. An officer, in this case Calhoun County Sheriff Larry Amerson, had to deal with the problem.
Why are so many people ready to crucify a veteran law enforcement officer instead of an out-of-control young man? If this juvenile did not need supervision and control, he would not have been in this program.
To me, it comes back to the upbringing of an out-of-control delinquent. Back your law enforcement and quit pampering these kids. In the end, they will?end up in jail or dead.
This kid would not have been there if he were not a problem. So get off Amerson's case and put the blame where it belongs.
Ken Fink
Oxford
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To me, it comes back to the upbringing of an out-of-control delinquent. Back your law enforcement and quit pampering these kids. In the end, they will end up in jail or dead.
This poster is exactly right. Obviously this kid has severe problems and was acting out. Somebody had to deal with him. I would have preferred that he got sent to a program where his problems could be addressed fully and effectively, but the Sheriff had to do something.
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To me, it comes back to the upbringing of an out-of-control delinquent. Back your law enforcement and quit pampering these kids. In the end, they will end up in jail or dead.
This poster is exactly right. Obviously this kid has severe problems and was acting out. Somebody had to deal with him. I would have preferred that he got sent to a program where his problems could be addressed fully and effectively, but the Sheriff had to do something.
You might want to familiarize yourself with the details of the Complaint, transcribed in an earlier post:
Brown v. Amerson (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&start=45#p400836), Case 1:11-cv-01182-RBP[/list]
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To me, it comes back to the upbringing of an out-of-control delinquent. Back your law enforcement and quit pampering these kids. In the end, they will end up in jail or dead.
This poster is exactly right. Obviously this kid has severe problems and was acting out. Somebody had to deal with him. I would have preferred that he got sent to a program where his problems could be addressed fully and effectively, but the Sheriff had to do something.
You might want to familiarize yourself with the details of the Complaint, transcribed in an earlier post:
Brown v. Amerson (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&start=45#p400836), Case 1:11-cv-01182-RBP[/list]
Look, Ursus, the kid was out of control. If he was an upstanding memeber of society he wouldn't have been in the program in the first place. Like I said somebody had to do something before he ended up dead, insane or in jail for real. I don't see what's wrong with helping this kid get back on track.
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Look, Ursus, the kid was out of control. If he was an upstanding memeber of society he wouldn't have been in the program in the first place. Like I said somebody had to do something before he ended up dead, insane or in jail for real. I don't see what's wrong with helping this kid get back on track.
Pfffbbtttt! :D
Here are two comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/13064795/article-Blame-where-it-belongs?) left for the above Letter to the Editor, "Blame where it belongs (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&start=60#p401966)" (readership; May 02, 2011; The Anniston Star):
JerryM wrote on Monday, May 02 at 08:49 AM
Gee, I guess we need no safeguards on police, because they can simply never do no wrong, whatsoever. I have viewed numerous videos on violence used by police, and many times it was unnecessary. Many times violence was used against citizens who posed absolutely no threat, and were doing such "threatening" things as just filming a traffic stop. I can see why some cops are afraid of being filmed than and tackle someone with a camera.
I watched that video a number of times and he was turned away from the sheriff, before the sheriff took violent action. I believe, though this situation wasn't the case, there are people who would defend the use of torture to get confessions, as routinely happened 70 years ago.
licketysplit wrote on Tuesday, May 10 at 11:30 AM
I personally think that the people defending Amerson are too lazy to look up the Use of Force rules that the state of Alabama has outlined for everyone, including law enforcement officers.
All I ever see are people backing him who know Amerson personally or went to school with him or they just defend him because he's a "good ol' boy that did somethin' good."
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@OperationCleanSlate. just a heads up there operationcleanslate. the boy DID NOT spit on the sheriff. look at the court documents and the incident report
. nowhere is there any mention of the boy spitting on the sheriff. not in the complaint OR BY sheriff amerson. in the video i can see at no point did the boy spit. he did his very best to look away from sheriff amerson. so the spitting fact only exists in your mind and your mind alone!Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12823011/article-In-Zinn-Park-Saturday--second-protest-calls-on-Sheriff-Amerson-to-resign?) left for the above article, "In Zinn Park Saturday, second protest calls on Sheriff Amerson to resign (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=401411#p401348)" (by Laura Johnson; Apr 17, 2011; The Anniston Star):
[email protected] wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 08:40 AM
I just saw the coverage of this protest on Fox 6 News. The protesters were using the Project Pay building to promote the demonstration. This building is owned by the City of Anniston. When did the City of Anniston start sponsoring protests and allowing protesters to use their buildings? I'd like an answer Ben Little. Who authorized them to use a City of Anniston property to protest the Sheriff? This seems unethical.
catbird572 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:27 AM
I saw the same coverage, and, in my opinion as well, Ben Little owes an explanation to the citizens of Anniston, and the city of Anniston owes one to the general public for letting a loose cannon like Little to continue this outrageous behavior he has engaged in during his tenure as Councilman. The good citizens of Anniston who are FED UP with the current Mayor and Clowncil should respectfully, and publically request the former Mayors to come out of their political 'retirement' to fill all five of these offices at the next election, so that we still have half a chance of getting Anniston back on track, before these buffoons do irrepairable damage to the city's reputation.
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:37 AM
Little ben already has his hands in somebody's pockets hoping for a settlement. Piece of garbage, along with the rest of those "protesters." None of those people have any interest in seeing justice, they just want a piece of the pot when they thuggishly boot a white official out of office. They tried the same thing with the Anniston PD when the former chief retired, so they could get some leftwing thug chief in. None of these people have any morals, especially Little Ben. I say GOOD JOB sheriff, law enforcement should be able to go "hands on" any time they so choose! the crime rate would be a LOT lower if when you break the law you get a PROPER skin up, instead on a slap on the hand by some liberal judge. VOTE THEM OUT!
votethemout wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:55 AM
Maybe Little or some of the protesters could take the poor troubled teen into THEIR home for guidance. I wonder how long they'd put up with him in thier household.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:13 PM
If Larry Amerson were a decent human being he would step down pending the conclusion of this investigation because there is enough definitive evidence on the video that he practices totally unnecessary police brutality.
HowWordHues wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:25 PM
Everyone deserves their day in court, even the Sheriff. I wouldn't resign either just because a bunch of folks are calling for it. Heck, a lot of people have been calling for Ben Little to resign and that hasn't happened.
There are 2 sides to every story. No one, and I mean no one knows what went on other than the Sheriff,that young man and God. People can talk, speculate, put in their own 2 cents but it still doesn't make it the truth.
Read Bible passage John 8.
Passage John 8 in the Bible.
coonhunter911 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:54 PM
Nobody likes a quitter!
As a result Amerson can't resign! Then he wouldn't get a fair trial!
As his unappointed and unknown legal aid rep I would advise him not too!
only1
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 05:39 PM
@scarlet-
What constitutes police brutality? You are throwing around the words like they mean nothing. ANY law enforcement officer has the legal right to defend himself or herself against an assault,whether the person is handcuffed, shackled or whatever. And according to Alabama state law, spitting on someone IS an assault. People go to jail for it all the time. You are just a bandwagon riding hypocritical liar. Let someone spit in your face and I guarantee you would be screaming for police to throw that person in jail. I think that the sheriff exercised amazing restraint by not beating that punk senseless.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 07:49 PM
OperationCleanSlate The video speaks for itself. Where do you get the information that the boy spit in his face? It appears that the boy was trying to move away from him. At what point, in the video do you see this? I'm sure Amerson wouldn't voluntarily step-down even if found guilty but there should be an organization in the county such as the county commission who could do this for him. It's people like you that give the state a bad name nation wide with these red neck ideas.
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 09:32 PM
scarlet, perhaps if you did not rely solely on the star to form your opinion you would know that the boy did what he did. you can see it clearly if you look at the video objectively, but you and so many like you are not capable of that. you are on a witch hunt and likely will tarnish the good name of Amerson. He has been and will continue to be a great example of what a sheriff should be, and has likely turned down many other jobs in much higher paying places to stay with calhoun county. I respect the man and know that he is innocent of any wrong doing. You live in your little bubble of safety and have no idea what it takes to do what law enforcement officers do daily. Amerson was trying to correct mistakes that were obviously made by the boys family, and sometimes that takes more than what some people want to admit. The fact is, you can monday morning quarterback some blurry video all you want, but you and i were not there. Don't we live in such a grand country where people have the freedom to bash officials without cause or merit? The family of this boy doesn't truly care what happened, all they see are dollar signs, and that is perpetuated by corrupt people like ben little and the rest of you that jumped on the bandwagon. I just ask that you research and get all the facts that you can before you make outrageous statements in public forum and embarrass yourself.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:20 PM
OperationCleanSlate I'm not embarrassed it should be Sheriff Amerson and his supporters of this outrageous behavior that should be embarrassed. The last time I checked there still is a constitution that provides for civil rights and the right not to be beaten unjustly by law enforcement officials.
HowWordHues wrote on Monday, Apr 18 at 07:05 AM
scarllett5,
You state that there is a constitution that provides for civil rights. Yes that is true. You seem to have forgotten that rights go both ways. The Sheriff is not on trial but some people already have him convicted.
Ever heard of the term, "innocent until proven guilty"?
licketysplit wrote on Thursday, Apr 21 at 11:02 AM
Ben Little spoke out against the Sheriff? Isn't that like Satan calling a demon "evil?"
anniston1 wrote on Thursday, Apr 28 at 10:55 AM
Ben Little and his crew can organize a huge group to protest or march any day of the week. I am just wondering if he organized his group today to help in the recovery efforts of all of the communities devastated by these tornadoes. I sure hope he did. They should all come together to HELP someone instead of always protesting against them.
Copyright © 2011 Anniston Star.
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@OperationCleanSlate. just a heads up there operationcleanslate. the boy DID NOT spit on the sheriff. look at the court documents and the incident report
. nowhere is there any mention of the boy spitting on the sheriff. not in the complaint OR BY sheriff amerson himself. in the video i can see at no point did the boy spit. he did his very best to look away from sheriff amerson. so the spitting fact only exists in your mind and your mind alone!Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12823011/article-In-Zinn-Park-Saturday--second-protest-calls-on-Sheriff-Amerson-to-resign?) left for the above article, "In Zinn Park Saturday, second protest calls on Sheriff Amerson to resign (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=401411#p401348)" (by Laura Johnson; Apr 17, 2011; The Anniston Star):
[email protected] wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 08:40 AM
I just saw the coverage of this protest on Fox 6 News. The protesters were using the Project Pay building to promote the demonstration. This building is owned by the City of Anniston. When did the City of Anniston start sponsoring protests and allowing protesters to use their buildings? I'd like an answer Ben Little. Who authorized them to use a City of Anniston property to protest the Sheriff? This seems unethical.
catbird572 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:27 AM
I saw the same coverage, and, in my opinion as well, Ben Little owes an explanation to the citizens of Anniston, and the city of Anniston owes one to the general public for letting a loose cannon like Little to continue this outrageous behavior he has engaged in during his tenure as Councilman. The good citizens of Anniston who are FED UP with the current Mayor and Clowncil should respectfully, and publically request the former Mayors to come out of their political 'retirement' to fill all five of these offices at the next election, so that we still have half a chance of getting Anniston back on track, before these buffoons do irrepairable damage to the city's reputation.
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:37 AM
Little ben already has his hands in somebody's pockets hoping for a settlement. Piece of garbage, along with the rest of those "protesters." None of those people have any interest in seeing justice, they just want a piece of the pot when they thuggishly boot a white official out of office. They tried the same thing with the Anniston PD when the former chief retired, so they could get some leftwing thug chief in. None of these people have any morals, especially Little Ben. I say GOOD JOB sheriff, law enforcement should be able to go "hands on" any time they so choose! the crime rate would be a LOT lower if when you break the law you get a PROPER skin up, instead on a slap on the hand by some liberal judge. VOTE THEM OUT!
votethemout wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:55 AM
Maybe Little or some of the protesters could take the poor troubled teen into THEIR home for guidance. I wonder how long they'd put up with him in thier household.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:13 PM
If Larry Amerson were a decent human being he would step down pending the conclusion of this investigation because there is enough definitive evidence on the video that he practices totally unnecessary police brutality.
HowWordHues wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:25 PM
Everyone deserves their day in court, even the Sheriff. I wouldn't resign either just because a bunch of folks are calling for it. Heck, a lot of people have been calling for Ben Little to resign and that hasn't happened.
There are 2 sides to every story. No one, and I mean no one knows what went on other than the Sheriff,that young man and God. People can talk, speculate, put in their own 2 cents but it still doesn't make it the truth.
Read Bible passage John 8.
Passage John 8 in the Bible.
coonhunter911 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:54 PM
Nobody likes a quitter!
As a result Amerson can't resign! Then he wouldn't get a fair trial!
As his unappointed and unknown legal aid rep I would advise him not too!
only1
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 05:39 PM
@scarlet-
What constitutes police brutality? You are throwing around the words like they mean nothing. ANY law enforcement officer has the legal right to defend himself or herself against an assault,whether the person is handcuffed, shackled or whatever. And according to Alabama state law, spitting on someone IS an assault. People go to jail for it all the time. You are just a bandwagon riding hypocritical liar. Let someone spit in your face and I guarantee you would be screaming for police to throw that person in jail. I think that the sheriff exercised amazing restraint by not beating that punk senseless.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 07:49 PM
OperationCleanSlate The video speaks for itself. Where do you get the information that the boy spit in his face? It appears that the boy was trying to move away from him. At what point, in the video do you see this? I'm sure Amerson wouldn't voluntarily step-down even if found guilty but there should be an organization in the county such as the county commission who could do this for him. It's people like you that give the state a bad name nation wide with these red neck ideas.
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 09:32 PM
scarlet, perhaps if you did not rely solely on the star to form your opinion you would know that the boy did what he did. you can see it clearly if you look at the video objectively, but you and so many like you are not capable of that. you are on a witch hunt and likely will tarnish the good name of Amerson. He has been and will continue to be a great example of what a sheriff should be, and has likely turned down many other jobs in much higher paying places to stay with calhoun county. I respect the man and know that he is innocent of any wrong doing. You live in your little bubble of safety and have no idea what it takes to do what law enforcement officers do daily. Amerson was trying to correct mistakes that were obviously made by the boys family, and sometimes that takes more than what some people want to admit. The fact is, you can monday morning quarterback some blurry video all you want, but you and i were not there. Don't we live in such a grand country where people have the freedom to bash officials without cause or merit? The family of this boy doesn't truly care what happened, all they see are dollar signs, and that is perpetuated by corrupt people like ben little and the rest of you that jumped on the bandwagon. I just ask that you research and get all the facts that you can before you make outrageous statements in public forum and embarrass yourself.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:20 PM
OperationCleanSlate I'm not embarrassed it should be Sheriff Amerson and his supporters of this outrageous behavior that should be embarrassed. The last time I checked there still is a constitution that provides for civil rights and the right not to be beaten unjustly by law enforcement officials.
HowWordHues wrote on Monday, Apr 18 at 07:05 AM
scarllett5,
You state that there is a constitution that provides for civil rights. Yes that is true. You seem to have forgotten that rights go both ways. The Sheriff is not on trial but some people already have him convicted.
Ever heard of the term, "innocent until proven guilty"?
licketysplit wrote on Thursday, Apr 21 at 11:02 AM
Ben Little spoke out against the Sheriff? Isn't that like Satan calling a demon "evil?"
anniston1 wrote on Thursday, Apr 28 at 10:55 AM
Ben Little and his crew can organize a huge group to protest or march any day of the week. I am just wondering if he organized his group today to help in the recovery efforts of all of the communities devastated by these tornadoes. I sure hope he did. They should all come together to HELP someone instead of always protesting against them.
Copyright © 2011 Anniston Star.
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@OperationCleanSlate. just a heads up there operationcleanslate. the boy DID NOT spit on the sheriff. look at the court documents and the incident report
. nowhere is there any mention of the boy spitting on the sheriff. not in the complaint OR BY sheriff amerson himself. in the video i can see at no point did the boy spit. he did his very best to look away from sheriff amerson. so the spitting fact only exists in your mind and your mind alone!Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12823011/article-In-Zinn-Park-Saturday--second-protest-calls-on-Sheriff-Amerson-to-resign?) left for the above article, "In Zinn Park Saturday, second protest calls on Sheriff Amerson to resign (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=401411#p401348)" (by Laura Johnson; Apr 17, 2011; The Anniston Star):
[email protected] wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 08:40 AM
I just saw the coverage of this protest on Fox 6 News. The protesters were using the Project Pay building to promote the demonstration. This building is owned by the City of Anniston. When did the City of Anniston start sponsoring protests and allowing protesters to use their buildings? I'd like an answer Ben Little. Who authorized them to use a City of Anniston property to protest the Sheriff? This seems unethical.
catbird572 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:27 AM
I saw the same coverage, and, in my opinion as well, Ben Little owes an explanation to the citizens of Anniston, and the city of Anniston owes one to the general public for letting a loose cannon like Little to continue this outrageous behavior he has engaged in during his tenure as Councilman. The good citizens of Anniston who are FED UP with the current Mayor and Clowncil should respectfully, and publically request the former Mayors to come out of their political 'retirement' to fill all five of these offices at the next election, so that we still have half a chance of getting Anniston back on track, before these buffoons do irrepairable damage to the city's reputation.
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:37 AM
Little ben already has his hands in somebody's pockets hoping for a settlement. Piece of garbage, along with the rest of those "protesters." None of those people have any interest in seeing justice, they just want a piece of the pot when they thuggishly boot a white official out of office. They tried the same thing with the Anniston PD when the former chief retired, so they could get some leftwing thug chief in. None of these people have any morals, especially Little Ben. I say GOOD JOB sheriff, law enforcement should be able to go "hands on" any time they so choose! the crime rate would be a LOT lower if when you break the law you get a PROPER skin up, instead on a slap on the hand by some liberal judge. VOTE THEM OUT!
votethemout wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:55 AM
Maybe Little or some of the protesters could take the poor troubled teen into THEIR home for guidance. I wonder how long they'd put up with him in thier household.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:13 PM
If Larry Amerson were a decent human being he would step down pending the conclusion of this investigation because there is enough definitive evidence on the video that he practices totally unnecessary police brutality.
HowWordHues wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:25 PM
Everyone deserves their day in court, even the Sheriff. I wouldn't resign either just because a bunch of folks are calling for it. Heck, a lot of people have been calling for Ben Little to resign and that hasn't happened.
There are 2 sides to every story. No one, and I mean no one knows what went on other than the Sheriff,that young man and God. People can talk, speculate, put in their own 2 cents but it still doesn't make it the truth.
Read Bible passage John 8.
Passage John 8 in the Bible.
coonhunter911 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 01:54 PM
Nobody likes a quitter!
As a result Amerson can't resign! Then he wouldn't get a fair trial!
As his unappointed and unknown legal aid rep I would advise him not too!
only1
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 05:39 PM
@scarlet-
What constitutes police brutality? You are throwing around the words like they mean nothing. ANY law enforcement officer has the legal right to defend himself or herself against an assault,whether the person is handcuffed, shackled or whatever. And according to Alabama state law, spitting on someone IS an assault. People go to jail for it all the time. You are just a bandwagon riding hypocritical liar. Let someone spit in your face and I guarantee you would be screaming for police to throw that person in jail. I think that the sheriff exercised amazing restraint by not beating that punk senseless.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 07:49 PM
OperationCleanSlate The video speaks for itself. Where do you get the information that the boy spit in his face? It appears that the boy was trying to move away from him. At what point, in the video do you see this? I'm sure Amerson wouldn't voluntarily step-down even if found guilty but there should be an organization in the county such as the county commission who could do this for him. It's people like you that give the state a bad name nation wide with these red neck ideas.
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 09:32 PM
scarlet, perhaps if you did not rely solely on the star to form your opinion you would know that the boy did what he did. you can see it clearly if you look at the video objectively, but you and so many like you are not capable of that. you are on a witch hunt and likely will tarnish the good name of Amerson. He has been and will continue to be a great example of what a sheriff should be, and has likely turned down many other jobs in much higher paying places to stay with calhoun county. I respect the man and know that he is innocent of any wrong doing. You live in your little bubble of safety and have no idea what it takes to do what law enforcement officers do daily. Amerson was trying to correct mistakes that were obviously made by the boys family, and sometimes that takes more than what some people want to admit. The fact is, you can monday morning quarterback some blurry video all you want, but you and i were not there. Don't we live in such a grand country where people have the freedom to bash officials without cause or merit? The family of this boy doesn't truly care what happened, all they see are dollar signs, and that is perpetuated by corrupt people like ben little and the rest of you that jumped on the bandwagon. I just ask that you research and get all the facts that you can before you make outrageous statements in public forum and embarrass yourself.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:20 PM
OperationCleanSlate I'm not embarrassed it should be Sheriff Amerson and his supporters of this outrageous behavior that should be embarrassed. The last time I checked there still is a constitution that provides for civil rights and the right not to be beaten unjustly by law enforcement officials.
HowWordHues wrote on Monday, Apr 18 at 07:05 AM
scarllett5,
You state that there is a constitution that provides for civil rights. Yes that is true. You seem to have forgotten that rights go both ways. The Sheriff is not on trial but some people already have him convicted.
Ever heard of the term, "innocent until proven guilty"?
licketysplit wrote on Thursday, Apr 21 at 11:02 AM
Ben Little spoke out against the Sheriff? Isn't that like Satan calling a demon "evil?"
anniston1 wrote on Thursday, Apr 28 at 10:55 AM
Ben Little and his crew can organize a huge group to protest or march any day of the week. I am just wondering if he organized his group today to help in the recovery efforts of all of the communities devastated by these tornadoes. I sure hope he did. They should all come together to HELP someone instead of always protesting against them.
Copyright © 2011 Anniston Star.
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Comments (http://http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/12823011/article-In-Zinn-Park-Saturday--second-protest-calls-on-Sheriff-Amerson-to-resign?) left for the above article, "In Zinn Park Saturday, second protest calls on Sheriff Amerson to resign (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=37047&p=401411#p401348)" (by Laura Johnson; Apr 17, 2011; The Anniston Star):
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 05:39 PM
@scarlet-
What constitutes police brutality? You are throwing around the words like they mean nothing. ANY law enforcement officer has the legal right to defend himself or herself against an assault,whether the person is handcuffed, shackled or whatever. And according to Alabama state law, spitting on someone IS an assault. People go to jail for it all the time. You are just a bandwagon riding hypocritical liar. Let someone spit in your face and I guarantee you would be screaming for police to throw that person in jail. I think that the sheriff exercised amazing restraint by not beating that punk senseless.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 07:49 PM
OperationCleanSlate The video speaks for itself. Where do you get the information that the boy spit in his face? It appears that the boy was trying to move away from him. At what point, in the video do you see this? I'm sure Amerson wouldn't voluntarily step-down even if found guilty but there should be an organization in the county such as the county commission who could do this for him. It's people like you that give the state a bad name nation wide with these red neck ideas.
OperationCleanSlate wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 09:32 PM
scarlet, perhaps if you did not rely solely on the star to form your opinion you would know that the boy did what he did. you can see it clearly if you look at the video objectively, but you and so many like you are not capable of that. you are on a witch hunt and likely will tarnish the good name of Amerson. He has been and will continue to be a great example of what a sheriff should be, and has likely turned down many other jobs in much higher paying places to stay with calhoun county. I respect the man and know that he is innocent of any wrong doing. You live in your little bubble of safety and have no idea what it takes to do what law enforcement officers do daily. Amerson was trying to correct mistakes that were obviously made by the boys family, and sometimes that takes more than what some people want to admit. The fact is, you can monday morning quarterback some blurry video all you want, but you and i were not there. Don't we live in such a grand country where people have the freedom to bash officials without cause or merit? The family of this boy doesn't truly care what happened, all they see are dollar signs, and that is perpetuated by corrupt people like ben little and the rest of you that jumped on the bandwagon. I just ask that you research and get all the facts that you can before you make outrageous statements in public forum and embarrass yourself.
scarllett5 wrote on Sunday, Apr 17 at 10:20 PM
OperationCleanSlate I'm not embarrassed it should be Sheriff Amerson and his supporters of this outrageous behavior that should be embarrassed. The last time I checked there still is a constitution that provides for civil rights and the right not to be beaten unjustly by law enforcement officials.
@OperationCleanSlate. just a heads up there operationcleanslate. the boy DID NOT spit on the sheriff. look at the court documents and the incident report
. nowhere is there any mention of the boy spitting on the sheriff. not in the complaint OR BY sheriff amerson himself. in the video i can see at no point did the boy spit. he did his very best to look away from sheriff amerson. so the spitting fact only exists in your mind and your mind alone!
I would tend to agree with you here, bounty_hunter, although... I certainly was not an actual witness. What is your connection to this case?
Such portions of the video which were/are available online do not show any spitting or, for that matter, any other aggressive acts whatsoever on the part of the boy, "J.B."
Rather, and I concur with you here also, bounty_hunter, the video shows the boy turning away and leaning away further from the sheriff. At least as much as he was able to, given that the 14-year-old (who had committed no crime) was in handcuffs and shackled at the time...
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at this time i am not at liberty to say what my connection to this case is. but i will say this,,,due to my present situation i have had to do my research on it and dig deep into it. still have more work to do as my research is far from completion at this time. as for the young man in question here, the boy had some issues at school. and in my own opinion,,i dont care what the reason,,the young man committed no crime and was facing no charges. this was a case of scared straight gone wrong and too big a price to pay for being a bad student at school.
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@HowWordHues,,,you so right,,,the boy had committed no crime. there were no charges filed against the young lad and yet he had to endure that kind of abuse from the sheriff! 'ever heard of "innocent till proven guilty?" is right!!! as for the sheriff,,everyone who lives in his county all know what he's like. i know of a case where the bail enforcement agents tried to arrest a bad guy. the bad guy made it to his car. he ran a bail enforcement agent over with his car and dragged him down the road with it. the sheriff impounded the vehicle that the bail enforcement agents owned and took away their weapons. funny part is that the sheriff is good friends with the parents of the fugitive who was being chased by the bounty hunters. the fugitive should of been charged with attempted murder for that. instead the fugitive only went to jail for what he originally jumped bail over. this sort of thing happens all the time in that particular county.
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at this time i am not at liberty to say what my connection to this case is. but i will say this,,,due to my present situation i have had to do my research on it and dig deep into it. still have more work to do as my research is far from completion at this time.
Any input you'd care to lend vis a vis your research would be most appreciated!
as for the young man in question here, the boy had some issues at school. and in my own opinion,,i dont care what the reason,,the young man committed no crime and was facing no charges. this was a case of scared straight gone wrong and too big a price to pay for being a bad student at school.
How many "scared straight" programs, do ya think... "go wrong" a certain percentage of the time?
Perhaps there's something wrong with the program model, eh?
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@HowWordHues,,,you so right,,,the boy had committed no crime. there were no charges filed against the young lad and yet he had to endure that kind of abuse from the sheriff! 'ever heard of "innocent till proven guilty?" is right!!! as for the sheriff,,everyone who lives in his county all know what he's like. i know of a case where the bail enforcement agents tried to arrest a bad guy. the bad guy made it to his car. he ran a bail enforcement agent over with his car and dragged him down the road with it. the sheriff impounded the vehicle that the bail enforcement agents owned and took away their weapons. funny part is that the sheriff is good friends with the parents of the fugitive who was being chased by the bounty hunters. the fugitive should of been charged with attempted murder for that. instead the fugitive only went to jail for what he originally jumped bail over. this sort of thing happens all the time in that particular county.
Well... hate to say it, but... part of that seems to be Alabama. Circumventing the spirit of the law via "creatively interpreting" the letter of it... I could be wrong.
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@scarllett5,,i watched the video and if you notice at about 10 to 15 seconds into the video the sheriff turns his head towards the deputies and says something to them. at that point they ALL start to leave the room at the exact moment. they DID not make the choice to leave,,they were ORDERED to leave the room. so that proves that the sheriffs actions were premeditated! he KNEW that what he was about to do was WRONG! there are also signed statements to that effect, that they were ordered to leave the room as well.. as for "lcwesson",,so what you are saying is that we need to take 10 steps backwards as a society and go back to the dark days like in old chicago and just brutalize anyone who we THINK MIGHT be a problem in the future? sounds like marshall law to me. in fact thats exactly what the nazi's used to do in their prison camps. just brutalize anyone they THOUGHT might be a future problem. when a man is elected to put on that badge, hes excepting the roll of a LAW ENFORCEMENT official. laws for all intentional purposes are just a code of ethics. a code that we as human beings are expected to live by. and when a man excepts the position of law enforcement official he too still has to live by that code of ethics as well. no man is above the law. these laws were made to protect the rights of criminals(and this young lad WAS NOT a criminal) as well as citizens. so when a law enforcement official thinks he does not have to live by those laws, or that code of ethics then he becomes a rogue who is dangerous and at that point he no longer represents "the people". he represents only himself. a bully with a badge who thinks he doesnt have to live by our laws.sometimes these same officials see so much for so long that they go sour and forget the primary focus of their position. now in my profession i too spend time in these bad neighborhoods and your so very right,,,if people had to spend time in these bad neighborhoods on a ride along with the law enforcement officials,,they WOULD see the world differently. BUT, by the same token,,,if you were to ever be on the receiving end of a bad ass bully with a badge,,you too might see the world differently as well!
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@scarllett5,,i watched the video and if you notice at about 10 to 15 seconds into the video the sheriff turns his head towards the deputies and says something to them. at that point they ALL start to leave the room at the exact moment. they DID not make the choice to leave,,they were ORDERED to leave the room. so that proves that the sheriffs actions were premeditated! he KNEW that what he was about to do was WRONG! there are also signed statements to that effect, that they were ordered to leave the room as well.. as for "lcwesson",,so what you are saying is that we need to take 10 steps backwards as a society and go back to the dark days like in old chicago and just brutalize anyone who we THINK MIGHT be a problem in the future? sounds like marshall law to me. in fact thats exactly what the nazi's used to do in their prison camps. just brutalize anyone they THOUGHT might be a future problem. when a man is elected to put on that badge, hes excepting the roll of a LAW ENFORCEMENT official. laws for all intentional purposes are just a code of ethics. a code that we as human beings are expected to live by. and when a man excepts the position of law enforcement official he too still has to live by that code of ethics as well. no man is above the law. these laws were made to protect the rights of criminals(and this young lad WAS NOT a criminal) as well as citizens. so when a law enforcement official thinks he does not have to live by those laws, or that code of ethics then he becomes a rogue who is dangerous and at that point he no longer represents "the people". he represents only himself. a bully with a badge who thinks he doesnt have to live by our laws.sometimes these same officials see so much for so long that they go sour and forget the primary focus of their position. now in my profession i too spend time in these bad neighborhoods and your so very right,,,if people had to spend time in these bad neighborhoods on a ride along with the law enforcement officials,,they WOULD see the world differently. BUT, by the same token,,,if you were to ever be on the receiving end of a bad ass bully with a badge,,you too might see the world differently as well!
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one other point,,,DONT GIVE ME THIS CRAP that the sheriff didnt know that they started this program. the sheriff has to sign off on this just to implement these programs. lets assume for one second that he DIDNT know about the program,,,does the sheriff then just go in and start brutalizing people without any knowledge of why they are there in the first place then?,,NO! it is the JOB of the sheriff to know everything that goes on in his domain and on his watch as "SHERIFF". AND IF HE ISNT DOING HIS JOB and doing it properly,,,then he just needs to be gone and the job given to someone who CAN do the job properly!
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and for those who think that whoever gave up that tape should be fired,,remember this,,, the sheriff is still their superior! they are in NO position to say anything without fear of losing their career. so whoever did give up that tape obviously DOES know the difference between right and wrong, and are tired of covering for a bad bad man with a badge! and when its all said and done,,should anything ever go horribly wrong and someone does get hurt bad or even dies,,,they too are going to be held accountable as accessories to the fact as well as the sheriff. they too stand to lose their career and possibly their freedom just because of the wrong doings of one man,,,THE SHERIFF!