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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Professional potheads...
« on: November 11, 2002, 10:01:00 PM »
Speaking of Reagan, anyone from VA (or elsewhere, if it applies) remember when Dean showed the group a like 20-minute long bit of propaganda about Ronald Reagan? I think it may have been around the time that he was up for re-election...It was in the 'carpet room...' hell, at least we got to see a "movie" instead of having a rap...Alex

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Bill Jory
« on: November 11, 2002, 12:42:00 PM »
Hey Diane, sorry...I think I've asked you the same question a couple of times now...you're the person who thought I had glasses, etc...right? (tsfan) right...? I can be really terrible with names. Trite but true. Yeah, I've spent most of my life here in Baltimore, did some traveling but ended up back here. Well, talk to you later...oh, and if you're interested in attending the upcoming gathering, maybe we & our spouses (I seem to recall a post stating that you're married) could hook up & go down there...Alex

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Was it drugs?
« on: November 11, 2002, 12:13:00 AM »
...my parents told me that they were going to take me
down to VA to "stay with some people who could
talk with me about drugs" or something like that.
I envisioned sitting around in a cabin by a lake
somewhere with some older burnouts talking &
maybe even catching a buzz once in a while...

- from an earlier post of mine (17568)

It's been 20 years. Before I went in, I had ran away from home for
about a month. I guess it was late September/October, so I also said
to hell w/ going to school. It was a new school, and I didn't know
anyone anyway, (I had failed out of the last one.) I ran away because
I had gotten grounded over something like staying out too late on a
school night or something. I was tired of my parents trying to run my
life. I wanted out of school. I really had no realistic goals about
what to do with my life other than being in a punk band. Go ahead and
laugh, but I was in one, had started playing gigs around town here
and there, and loved playing music more than anything (which I admit
wasn't really saying too much...) My parents, especially my mom, did
not like the anti-social overtones of that brand of music at
all...even less did she like my shaved-head & mohawk haircuts. This
was 1982. This sort of thing was not accepted at all back then by
most people. Not the way it is today. Anyway, so I ran away & stayed
with some friends of mine who were out on their own & living in apts.
(I hung w/ an older crowd.) when I ran out of places to stay, I came
back home. I remember coming down with a really bad flu and spending
a week or two laying in my room listening to dark classical music
and "Abbey Road." Sorry, but this is all I remember. I remember going
to see "A Clockwork Orange" with my friends. As far as drugs go, at
the time I had slowed way down & was just drinking and smoking herb
occasionally, instead of getting high every day, and drinking
frequently like I did throughout highschool. It seems that I needed
some direction in life, or at least to have someone say to me - "look
you're going to have to either get it together with school or go out
and get your ass a job"...or something along those lines. I don't see
drugs as being my problem and I didn't then. I was no "addict." When
I got back to my oldcomers house on my 1st night in, he proceeded to
verbally attempt to tear down my belief that I did not need to be in
that place. I told him I was in a band and that we played gigs. He
said things like: "Guitarists are a dime a dozen, they don't need you"
About my appearance he had to say "if I saw a guy like you around
here in my past I would have kicked your ass" I kind of believed him.
At one point while he was berating me I came back with, "You don't
phase me..." He didn't like that at all. I remember that night
sleeping with no pillow.
Over two years later I 7-stepped. Did it help? No. Not long after, my
mom threw me out of her house for something I can't even remember. I
went to live with my dad until I found a place in the city to live.
It wasn't more than 3-4 months before I decided I was going to start
drinking again. Then I indulged in just about everything but heroin.
Had some good times, had some bad times. But I sure as hell wasn't
straight and I was getting laid. So here I am 20 years later, not
able to support my family without help. (though I'm working at
getting out from under to be fair to myself)I'm just trying to enjoy
what's left of my life...that's all for now.

Alex


[ This Message was edited by: AlexL on 2002-11-12 07:19 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Bill Jory
« on: November 10, 2002, 09:40:00 PM »
Ooops...that was me, I just wasn't logged in...When were you in there?  Alex

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Bill Jory
« on: November 10, 2002, 03:28:00 PM »
Good to hear that you are truly helping people. Hate to split 'hairs' but Billy's hair was definitely very dark brown or black. I'm pretty sure that he had brown eyes...anyway, thank you for posting!

Alex (Balto., MD)

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 'ratting' on our siblings
« on: November 10, 2002, 12:04:00 PM »
I'm trying to remember how they went about getting information (dirt)
from us about our siblings...so that they could be dragged in too...
Was this info. procured from us on on our intakes? No, I doubt it...
(thinking out loud here) Did they pull us aside & question us? It
bothers me that I'm not certain about how they did this. I seem to
remember maybe being pulled aside and asked about my sister's drug
use, but I'm not sure...did they just take notes during raps w/ a
topic about getting high with our siblings? Someone has got to have a
better memory of this than I do...

Alex

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Bill Jory
« on: November 10, 2002, 12:35:00 AM »
well I visited my sister today and started talking to her about my recent discoveries about Straight on the web...and I asked her if she knew what ever happened to Bill Jory. she didn't know, but reminded me of something my dad had told me a while back about his mom...that she had tried to hire someone to kill her husband (not Bill's dad, I guess the next in line, hehe) but she was set up and was caught red-handed paying the "assassin" who was really a cop...so she now (still, I think) rots in some jail. the lord works in mysterious ways...I can't say that I feel bad for her...
but all that aside, SOMEBODY out there from St. Pete (if not VA)must remember this guy...

end of anecdote.

My sister said herself that she believes that I was on 5th phase for a year because my parents were being strung along for their $. She was in sibling raps (like I guess most were) and saw people turned away who in her estimation were from poor or struggling families...these people were practically begging for 'help' from the program - admitting that they used all kinds of drugs, but were shown the door...she told me how she was interrogated in attempt to get her to admit thatshe had used drugs. She had the sense enough to deny everything, even though they had some dirt on her (extracted from yours truly,) & was never sucked in. She mentioned a particular dislike for Becky Macintyre...(Trish & Bob's sister, right?)
well whatever...it sure was sickening to hear all this.

Ok I'm done.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / SYNANON
« on: November 08, 2002, 10:23:00 PM »
The Game:

The Game was group psychotherapy for the whole community and served as a way to discuss organizational change 24. Members were grouped by a Synamaster, usually an older member tried to achieve a balance of female-male participants and a varying range of Synanon membership seniority. A basic game consisted of ten to fifteen members and a Synanist to facilitate the activity 25. The Synanist was someone who had shown the ablility to either control the symptoms of his addiction for a considerable time or seemed to be progressing at a faster rate than his peers 26.

The Game was an emotional and aggressive group meeting in which members attacked each other verbally. It was an open arena for voicing and airing problems with one another en route to finding a solution. Members were free and encouraged to be honest with their feelings and frustrations. The "attack" was seen as an expression of love 27. It presumably helped people to see themselves as others do and compelled them to examine their own thoughts and actions. The Synanist acted as moderator and tried to help the participants find themselves and would use such tactics as ridicule, cross-examination and hostile attack to further the session 28. It was estimated that the typical resident participated in three to four three-hour games per week 29.

Role-joining was a very important aspect of the Game and was used to progress the session. Role-joining was an agreement between two or more game members to combine their efforts to place an individual on the "hot seat." Once the plan was evident to the other members, they supported and aided in the scheme. Role-joining was essentially like joining a bandwagon and would result in all the session members joining forces against one of their own 30.

The Game was also the cornerstone around which the Synanon community was formed 31. It was key to Synanon government and created an in and out of game dichotomy. When "in the game," one was expected to criticize others and reveal any personal conflicts one might have with whoever was in the "hot seat." On the other hand, when "out of the game," one was supposed to portray a happy, pleasant, and helpful manner

from:

http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia. ... nanon.html

-also, can anyone crack this code?

http://www.synanon.org/VisitorSignIn.cfm



[ This Message was edited by: AlexL on 2002-11-08 19:47 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / St. Pete vs. VA
« on: November 08, 2002, 09:44:00 PM »
Ok, time to purge my mind of some of what I remember going on during the beginning of my stay in 'Straight-Springfield.' Here goes:

One of the other newcomers in my first host home, whose initials were T.S. had to wear a long-sleeved button-down shirt (which I believe was referred to as a 'F.O.S.' shirt) every day for weeks on end. Of course it was not to be washed. Every day some new pejorative was written on it.

I remember they made one guy, S.C. walk up and down a step ladder throughout the entire day.

I remember one kid, M.S. who was pretty young being 'nit-picked' which meant that 2 guys would sit on either side of him & constantly turn or jerk his head toward the person talking, etc...

People were getting sat on then, I read one older post on here that mentioned Kevin Grimes' ribs getting broken* by Carl Palumbo, & then this scumbag had the nerve to brag about it in his host home. (Anyone know what's up with ol' Carl? Hopefully someone's broken a bone or two of his...)

*(while being sat on)

This type of stuff seemed to happen less as the years went by...

Well, that's it for now, folks.

Alex

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / St. Pete vs. VA
« on: November 08, 2002, 02:01:00 PM »
Thanks, Bill

30 year old women?!? How did they manage THAT? Did their parents commit them?

Yes, indeed - the more digging the better! Our statute of limitations may be up, but I'm sure there are people out there who could press charges!! Let's find them...and keep doing what we can to help them find us. Someone must have a lawyer in the family!

Alex

http://www.clockworkorange.com/wav/CO_I ... lright.wav

[ This Message was edited by: malchick on 2002-11-08 12:23 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Bill Jory
« on: November 08, 2002, 12:11:00 PM »
Anyone from St. Pete or VA remember him? We were friends growing up and his parents recommended Straight to my parents. I remember seeing him in group when I first came in and wondering why he avoided eye contact w/ me...Anyone remember anything about him? Like how he 'did' in the program or where he is now?

Alex L.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Can we POST on DFAF?
« on: November 08, 2002, 09:18:00 AM »
Are we able to post on any_ DFAF site, or is the forum "read only" for all of them? Is there a way to post other than hacking in? Would someone please help me get up to speed?

Alex


[ This Message was edited by: AlexL on 2002-11-08 20:43 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / VOTE TODAY
« on: November 08, 2002, 09:11:00 AM »
No offense but -

To hell w/ it...I had neither the time nor (mainly) the desire to vote...It was between a bad democratic candidate & a republican...Moist crap or dry crap.
(I live in MD.)
Until a decent party comes into existence, they can all kiss my a$$! Plus this way, I probably won't be called up for jury duty...

Alex


[ This Message was edited by: malchick on 2002-11-08 08:25 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / St. Pete vs. VA
« on: November 07, 2002, 02:33:00 PM »
Thanks to 85 Day Jerk & Tampa Survivor for posting. Oh, & you too, Kpickle...even though I disagree with you fully; why not make comparisons if it can get people talking about what went on? It seems to have worked, no?

Thanks again, Alex L.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / St. Pete vs. VA
« on: November 06, 2002, 10:14:00 PM »
Just to see something new on here, I came up
with this. I was in Straight-Sringfield as were some others on this board. The topic is: A comparison of the severity between St. Pete & Spr, VA. OK I think we all know which one was worse hands-down. St. Pete of course.
Since VA migrated from St. Pete, there were a
lot of people who did time in both places...
From a personal standpoint, coming in not long after the migration (Actually 20 years ago TODAY - 11/06/82) and being there for over 2 years, I noticed differences between
when I came in, & right before I was out...
i.e. it seemed A LOT WORSE early on. Well rather than go into the details, I'll put that ball into the court of the next reader
who is able to comment... And if you want to compare St. Pete w/ Cincy or somewhere else,
by all means...I just want something good to read! So, please post!



Alex L.




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