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Well you posted a perverted picture of yourself quite some time ago. Seems like your queen is your momma. :smokin:

All religions have been made by men.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor

Get real administration. I'm not even talking about religion. This guy is a mother fucker.
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"This is a Republic"-VA Man.[ This Message was edited by: The Seeker on 2005-01-18 15:28 ]

Why can't you get a life? Quit trying to fix your fate. You can't stop the world either. Get on with it. Whatever. :smokin:

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard was not what I meant." I am not a crook"



---Richard Nixon

Well............... He got some of your asses from going of to'Nam.Ungrateful bastards.
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"This is a Republic"-VA Man.

Well, we're free now anyway. So why even wallow in the past? Forget all the bullshit and do more research on ourselves and such can be great, but still the unanswered questions are out there. There really are no secrets. This is the information age. Why not crack open a the good book for starters, and then move on? :wstupid:

Psychedelics often produce psychotic and even violent behavior in those who have never used them.
--Timothy Leary

But opiates clear up your problems from LSD. Under a physician's care, it's not drug abuse.
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"This is a Republic"-VA Man.[ This Message was edited by: The Seeker on 2005-01-12 00:48 ]

I just witnesed to you about my involvement with John Underwood and if you think you know more about it than me anon, why don't you share you're involvement unless of course you were in head  so much in group you weren't paying attention. Then you would have missed every lesson that was taught. By people who only wanted to exit counter-culture.

It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion.

--Joseph Goebbels

I've kept in contact with Petermann throug my dealings with the LIFE program, and I paid attention n group to what he had to say. Outside of the blashphemy, I'd say He was a really up front sober-minded man when I knew him. He spoke his mind, whatever he knew about the drug-culture. I still remember his stories. He talked of methadone clinics. All the junkies I saw get straight at the Seed weren't on methadone to my knowledge. I believe they puked their guts out and got support. I wasn't with the apartment crew I was just a kid. 14 years old. He blew my shit away at an open meeting because I was going to blow al the rules and tell the parent's what really went on. He said"That's because you're a little kid and you don't want to grow-up."Then he told me to sit down. Next day it was encounter with Nick at group where  had to face my problems head on with the group. He was a sober-minded strong man too. I dont know anything about some kind of cult that the Seed was but I do know.......I learned how to get a high school diploma. I learned lessons calso from Dennis Novac. He is and was my Mentor all trhough my training at the Seed. My parent's worked for the St. Petersburg Times at the time I was in there. Art spoke to my parents before they accepted my intake. My mom said it was for publicity now. But my mom still thinks she's in the Straight Inc. Program because of my drunken dope addicted brother. She's Episcapal. Got a bunch of Idols. Really bad religion and she works at a treatment center called "Fairwinds"as a housekeeper. I hear all kinds of stories but I keep them to myself. I'm not involved with any denominaltional church or step program. I've got the Holy Bible and online communities to get my spiritual necessaties as of scripture and such. All because of Dennis Novac and his refering to certain bible passages that were in fact very real, but I never really knew any of the other members there. I was more neglected by te Seed community of peers as far as right and wrong. I depended on Staff members to help me and tell their stories and I just paid attention to them. The others I never really knew.I guess even Dennis spoke to me once about hoe he felt neglected also. It was a common thing there I guess. I kept busy wit my schoo work in the Seed since I had by-passed Jr. High school out in the woods, skipping out on school dropping acid. I had a lot of hard work to do. I didn't have time to get into my head. Running shit on my head was just about how long? How long do I have to stay in with these bunch of mad dogs called peers? I had enough problems in school with the other children just keeping away from all the non-sense. And when He said You're off your program" I knew I had been acknowledged for my work. I also had to work in a bakery besides school, and had extra-curricular activities such as school band that kept me off the street. But it wasn't the end of problems. The come each and everyday. I think one dayt at atime is the best way to handle it. That is a scritural referance I believe. If you read the gospols it's all there. I don't know what programs John Underwood was in but I do remember him saying...." If I ever get back to the point where I feel nothing, I'll go back to drugs." He was very honest and up front in his dealings with me, to the best of his ability. This I owe him not sparing the rod on my lifestyle at the time. Please forgive my spelling you have no spell-checker, and like i said I bypassed Jr.High school. Never read one book until I got out of the military. It was the bible Dennis Novac spoke of.  

To make certain that crime does not pay, the government should take it
over and try to run it

--G. Norman Collie

You don't have an arguement with me on that one. The government and our constitution is all we have, and self-governing should be taught in schools, instead of religion preferances. We have freedom from religion also, since I don't go from crackpot to the outward show of religion in their "churches". I thought this country was founded on having no religion. Sparation of church and state. Whoever thinks the Pope is the "Holy Father" or a bishop can heal you is a card still. It's totally absurd. We answer to our creator.  
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"This is a Republic"-VA Man.

Dr. Philips Magnovox also practices cwithout a medical liscence and is under scrutinty by NAMI.org  He's a crackpot.

Boundary, n.  In political geography, an imaginary line between two nations, separating the imaginary rights of one from the imaginary rights of another.
-- Ambrose Bierce,  The Devil's Dictionary

Anybody heard from Chuck H***** or Sue H******?I heard Sue came down with bone marrow cancer and haven't heard a word. I also heard Chuck did a turnaround and went straight. I saw him in a bar and he had a scar vertically on his wrist. When I asked him what had happened he said he'd tell me......but not in  here(the bar). I do think he was the only one from the Dunedin click that I cared for. I just never saw him again and wonder if anybody knows where I can find him? :smokin:

Being sleepy can impair someone's ability to do thier job.  People
can sleep at home and come to the job with sleepiness still in their system. The sleepiness can still be there long after the employee has slept. When someone is found to be sleepy on the job, they can claim that they went to sleep the night before.  The only solution to this problem is to ban employees from sleeping.

--Arthur Slabosky

Some people don't have time to sleep GregFL you wildcard. In case you didn't notice we're in the middle of WWIII.
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"This is a Republic"-VA Man.

I believe letting go is important. Especially to a past of abuse and neglect. One just cannot carry all of that excess baggage around for very long before they hurt themselves. I believe confession is a thing in these cults or programs that gets confused with self-disclosure which makes us put up walls to not trust and to get screwed over by our peers. One only has to answer to his maker is what I believe is how to let go of the past and fess up to the present and change. I believe our minds have all been whipped by very experienced hands so we do need a sacrificial lamb.

I tried not to work for, you know, anyone who ate children with their bare hands. I won't pretend that I was ideologically consistent.


--Dick Morris; Political consultant for Bill Clinton, Trent Lott and Tom Ridge