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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Carbona Kid
« on: January 19, 2004, 06:12:00 PM »
It really sux. He's really sensitive at talking about Straight. I guess he was in training for staff at one point.That might have something to do about it, but I really don't know what happened to him.

A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a Republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace.
http://memory.loc.gov/const/fed/fed_46.html' target='_new'>James Madison, The Federalist No. 46


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Carbona Kid
« on: January 19, 2004, 03:52:00 AM »
I don't know what /bump means? My brother was out at a bar once and he ran into a couple of people he knew from Straight Inc. he bought them a couple of beers and afterwords they met outside and they put a loaded gun to his head and urinated on his head. They made him get down on all fours too. When he told me, I couldn't get an answer why. Did they do this inside Straight?  :question:

There is not a "fragment" in all nature, for every relative fragment of one thing is a full harmonious unit in itself.
-- John Muir


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Carbona Kid
« on: January 16, 2004, 10:06:00 PM »
Anybody here from Straight Inc. St. Petersburg in 1977? I'm looking for somebody who knew my brother.They called my brother "The Carbona Kid" in the Seed. They called me "Barry's Brother". I escaped and my brother got stuck there. Does anybody know what happened to him there? He won't discuss it with me. I heard someone abused him and they moved him to Sarasota. Anybody remember my brother?

If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.
http://laissezfairebooks.com/product.cfm?op=view&pid=FF7485&aid=10247' target='_new'>Thomas Jefferson


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Self-Disclosure Tape
« on: January 16, 2004, 09:30:00 PM »
I was in LIFE program in '82. I would have stayed there, but I went off my psychiactric meds and wanted a cigarette. Helen Petermann did a self-disclosure video tape on me that I think may be the reason I wound up in court later, but I don't know for sure. Petermann told me she wanted me to work there and I could still collect my VA pension. When I said "no" and escaped twice she threatened to take my pension away from me. She said she knew the Reagan's. I had been there for 3 1/2 months. I paid for it and signed in voluntarily. I just wanted my medicine and a cigarette. That was against the rules. I was 22. I used to pace the floor back and forth between sessions and was a nervous wreck. They adjudicated me and I lost my rights an got assigned a legal guardian later on. I backed out of a deal to go public with the whole place too. When the cameras rolled in I rolled out after spending a week inside an intake room alone. I didn't want to go back to drug abuse. I needed a doctor. Funny how when I spoke briefly on the telephone with her years later, she stressed to me NOT to ever go off my medicine again. I never did. I was an addict, not an adolescent. I really don't know for sure about that tape though. I hated talking in group and especially in front of people who were visiting, but I gave the program a try to find out the only way to quit abusing drugs was to just stay away from them, and take what's prescribed for my brain's sake. The hard part is finding real friends. On my own. These programs didn't offer me real friends. Most of them were stuck there. I thought everybody there including me was full of a lot of crap. But I didn't dare disturb anybody's treatment. I guess I was just tere looking for serious drug-addicts like myself who wanted to go clean. Too old and too late for that program. I think about the LIFE program people occassionally and just wish there would have been someway to get help in a different environment. I didn't know anybody else who had a better program. I've been to several different types of treatment centers, and basically they were to hard fo me then. I don't believe any program could have worked for me except the court adjudication because then I wasn't going to be able to get high. I guess if she showe it to Nancy Reagan or somebody like that it would explain. All I know is when I lost my money all my good-time buddies and drug dealer friends got busted or disappeared and so did I. ???????? At least I'm legal now. I haven't had to be de-toxed in years, and I don't have a problem with drug abuse. Got a lot of enemies though. Oh well, That's LIFE.     :wave:

It is criminal to steal a purse. It is daring to steal a fortune. It is a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases

--Schiller (1759-1805)



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"Don't know where I've been,all I know is it wasn't any easier there than it is here"                                             One Thing more for all you haters that show no mercy.........I'm glad she did it if it was her. I came to her, she didn't come to me. Now I'm alot more blessed and happier because of that self-disclosure tape. Don't hate. It wasn't the end of the world......I just didn't want to do dope. :wave:

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Synanon and the Step program
« on: December 26, 2003, 02:17:00 AM »
There's always some person with some kind of a complex that will make trouble with these so called "tools" they have in the synanon church. I guess evil just overtakes them at some time of "spiritual dispersal". Some do it because they do feel called somehow and believe they are chosen enough to lead. This is Mormon turf where I am. Common era just has its moments of insanity. Its all greek to me. I don't get it.

After all, who wouldn't prefer Middle Earth, unless they've been corrupted by a Ring of Power?



http://www.lewrockwell.com/elkins/elkins73.html' target='_new'>December 24, 2002


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The Seed Discussion Forum / Synanon and the Step program
« on: December 25, 2003, 06:27:00 PM »
All the AA people believe they will never heal from their alcoholism also."Keep coming back"is said while they squeeze hands after they all recite the lord's prayer. Left only to believe they will never get along without their meetings. Some of these meetings are held in "churches" that claim AA is "the grapevine" of the body of Christ. Someplace to go and confess their sins to one another. Usually these churches have ties to other religious institution's that are sponsored by the government in rehab centers and mental health programs.

Marijuana clearly has medicinal value.
 Thousands of seriously ill Americans have
 been able to determine that for themselves,
 albeit illegally. Like my own family, these
 individuals did not wish to break the law but
 they had no choice.
 

--Lyn Nofziger, former deputy chairman of the Republican National Committee



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"Don't know where I've been,all I know is it wasn't any easier there than it is now" WWII VET
John Butler



 It is also to my understanding from webpages that all this AA movement came after the great depression from the century earlier. People saw their lives meaningless without their wealth. Needed some form of reason to exist or belong to groups and churches that would give them something that their wealth couldn't buy. Its all online about synanon. I used search engines to get links from freemasonary to even scientology. :cry2:

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Synanon and the Step program
« on: December 24, 2003, 02:31:00 PM »
Yeah, it was seven steps in the seed and also in the life program. I was only in straight long enough to know I couldn't stick around. My brother spent two years on his program there though. I can't even get him to speak about it.I heard about the seven steppers though, trough what I've read and overheard by my parents.

Speak gently! 't is a little thing Dropp'd in the heart's deep well; The good, the joy, that it may bring Eternity shall tell.
-- G. W. Langford: Speak gently.


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The Seed Discussion Forum / Synanon and the Step program
« on: December 24, 2003, 09:27:00 AM »
Thank you both for your opinion. I have a doctor that tells me its just some kind of devil-worship to use the 6th step.I am not a Christian but I do believe in a god of some type that is self-edifying. I just don't like somebody telling me I hangout with spirits but don't understand God. I am assuming the doctor is right and he puts me on a shelf. The other problem is that I wonder if they are not just kindred spirits of somekind and not devils at all. God as I understand Him is something over my head. I don't understand God.  :smokin:

The scarcest resource is not oil, metals, clean air, capital, labor, or technology. It is our willingness to listen to each other and learn from each other and to seek the truth rather than seek to be right.
--Donella Meadows


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The Seed Discussion Forum / Synanon and the Step program
« on: December 24, 2003, 02:39:00 AM »
Does anybody know where all the link to our AA combined 7 steps come in? Are we ill to believe in that for our problem solving? I know about the big book and all that stuff, but is it wrong? :question:

Those who control the past, control the future; and those who control the present, control the past.

--George Orwell



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"Don't know where I've been,all I know is it wasn't any easier there than it is now" WWII VET
John Butler                                              My psychiatrist calls it borderline whenever I do the 6th step. Is this ill behavior?                  :eek:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Concentration camps?
« on: December 23, 2003, 11:24:00 PM »
Actually it was just supposed to be a joke about the camp trip. I've read a lot of stories from people that claimed that these programs deep sixed their sanity. It was more like an "inside joke" I had with my brother. no problem. :wave:

I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't
agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it
would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.
--GW Büsh, CNN.com, December 18, 2000



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"Don't know where I've been,all I know is it wasn't any easier there than it is now" WWII VET
John Butler                            I know that when some didn't get it I myself rolled over too. Sometimes I think of cyber as some sort of socialized purgatory for people like myself.If I was making fun of anybody I was included in that one too. Just glad I'm not really six feet under.  :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Concentration camps?
« on: December 23, 2003, 08:29:00 AM »
If Straigh Inc. was such a concentration where in the hell did they bury the bodies? Under laptops of course.

It is one of the most beautiful compensations of life, that no man can sincerely try to help another without helping himself.
--Ralph Waldo Emerson


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