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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 23, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
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I can't believe you guys sit here all day and write about somebody like this. I just got back from the whitmore academy and it has done nothing but good for me. Do you honestly belive that CHeryl has bad intentions what so ever. Maybe you shouldnt speak since 90 percent of you havnt been there and to the one that fucking have been ther, your just bitter spoiled children. SHe NEVER has inflicted or ordered harm on anybody at all and i cant beleive you waste your time on here. As for you Joyce Harris, the only person hurting your daughter is you, like when you pulled her out of the mansion and down the stairs by her hair, you fucking hypocrite. Most of you need to go to hell, as for everyone who is telling the truth, keep it up. This is my only post and i will say my name since i dont care what a forum has to say about me.
-Nick White
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Nick White, perhaps you are not aware that offical police documents state Joyce Harris did not pull her daughter down any stairs by her hair. Mark Sudweeks has already been called a LIAR for making this statement, and enough has been read about that one LIE to fill up a volume.
Cheryl Sudweeks being charged with child abuse does indicate she had bad intentions towards at least FOUR children. Do believe that is how many are listed in the CHARGES!
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nick my son also said she pulled her by the hair and he was there too at the time. Stay strong and dont let the cruel things said on here hurt you!!!
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On 2005-06-23 14:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I can't believe you guys sit here all day and write about somebody like this. I just got back from the whitmore academy and it has done nothing but good for me. Do you honestly belive that CHeryl has bad intentions what so ever. Maybe you shouldnt speak since 90 percent of you havnt been there and to the one that fucking have been ther, your just bitter spoiled children. SHe NEVER has inflicted or ordered harm on anybody at all and i cant beleive you waste your time on here. As for you Joyce Harris, the only person hurting your daughter is you, like when you pulled her out of the mansion and down the stairs by her hair, you fucking hypocrite. Most of you need to go to hell, as for everyone who is telling the truth, keep it up. This is my only post and i will say my name since i dont care what a forum has to say about me.
-Nick White"
Hi .. I don't know who you are ... but your accusations do not appear to be grounded in fact from what I have read in the newspapers and on Fornits.
Bottom line as I see it:
The program and it's owner(s) have been under investigation for months.
The students and parents who allege abuse appear to be quite credible and most definitly not part of some conspiracy to bring the program or it's owners down.
Formal charges have been filed against the program owner NOT by the students and their parents but by authorities in the state of Utah, following a lengthy investigation.
You might want to do some further research on your own before jumping to conclusions.
http://www.isaccorp.org (http://www.isaccorp.org)
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why research when i was there to see all the acusations were false. I know more about it and what theysay isnt true. Dont tell me to not jump to conclusion when i was an eye witness for a year and you were not
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Just what are the accusations? And what makes you think you saw everything that happened?
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On 2005-06-23 14:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"As for you Joyce Harris, the only person hurting your daughter is you, like when you pulled her out of the mansion and down the stairs by her hair, you fucking hypocrite."
Yep, she sure did... I saw that happen. And as Joyce tried to drag, literally drag her daughter to the car, she got away and ran to one of the girls, held on to her and would not let go. Joyce, of course, ripped her daughter from the girl, hitting the girl in the face in the process.
And yes, I saw these things happen with my own two eyes, because I was there.
Eyewitness, okay? That means not 'he said she said' BS like most of you are dragging out.
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On 2005-06-23 21:34:00, mouse wrote:
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On 2005-06-23 14:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"As for you Joyce Harris, the only person hurting your daughter is you, like when you pulled her out of the mansion and down the stairs by her hair, you fucking hypocrite."
Yep, she sure did... I saw that happen. And as Joyce tried to drag, literally drag her daughter to the car, she got away and ran to one of the girls, held on to her and would not let go. Joyce, of course, ripped her daughter from the girl, hitting the girl in the face in the process.
And yes, I saw these things happen with my own two eyes, because I was there.
Eyewitness, okay? That means not 'he said she said' BS like most of you are dragging out.
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Do you even realize the serious allegations you are making? Let's hear the other side first since it's Whitmore who was under investigation for many months and ultimately it's owner, Cheryl Sudweeks, who was charged with child abuse, not Mrs. Harris, correct?
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All this has been discussed previously, and Officer Wright was there, and has stated that no such thing happened.
And by the way, Cheryl Sudweeks IS the person that has been CHARGED with CRIMINAL child abuse--what is it 7 counts against 4 different children?
And the investigation is still ongoing, isn't it?
On another thread there is a discussion about Cheryl Sudweeks being "arrested and booked," and a new court appearance scheduled for July now.
Why not fill everyone in on these happenings--sort of like the CURRENT EVENTS of the day, since you seem to be the new spokesperson for Whitmore, Caitlyn.
By the way, what happened to the previous spokesperson, Tori? She doesn't seem to be around anymore.
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I wonder it keeps being brought up about cheryl being accused my son said that joyces daughter accused her of abuse even to children services, so I guess anyone can be accused of anything and i wonder why her daughter told my son and others these stories of abuse? I guess its hard to know what to believe?
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Caitlyn who are you trying to kid here?
There were no Angelina's there in October or November!
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Please explain to me how Caitlyn is being 'rehabilitated' if she's just being instructed to lie and create fake students? Sounds like she's being told to participate in the types of behavior that caused her to be sent there in the first place.
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Obviously, what Joyce's daughter may of may not have said was not found by Children's Services to be of any consequence, as no charges have ever been filed against Joyce Harris.
HOWEVER, the charges against Cheryl, which are multiple, with multiple children, were found to be credible enough that Cheryl has been formally, criminally charged.
Now, I see a big difference -- a real big difference.
There are witnesses to Cheryl throwing or pushing, at least, two boys down stairs, on two different occasions. These incidents are only two of many.
I will ask again, why would anyone keep or put their child in a facility, with these charges being brought against the owner? Why take a chance with your child's welfare? It seems to me the smart thing to do would be safe than sorry. Better to error on the side of caution.
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Hey Mouse,
So exactly when did you attend The Whitmore Academy? I've got an updated list of all alumni right now, and sadly I dont see any Angelina's on it... You claim to have been present when Joyce Harris' daughter left. That would place you at the Whitmore around October/November. Where is your name on the alumni list? Also, Caitlyn Loggins is the only registered student from Richmond, VA. Sadly, she is still there.
2005 Alumni
Dan C
Logan C
Krissy D
Stephan E
Kyle K
Carl M
Rob P
Sarah Q
Hannah R
Gabe S
Tyler H
Kyle R
Matt J
Shawn S
Tao T
Mike B
2004 Alumni
Casie W
Camille P
Anthony "Elliot" G
Mark P
Nate M
Anthony "Boogers" S
Bernardo C
Tori D
Justin B
Shelby H
Tim H
Aaron K
Shea M
Anneliese H
Chris C
Brian W
Lindsey S
Logan H
Jeff S
Lindsey K
Caitlin W
Chelsea J
Dusty T
Elena D
Kayleigh
Tony
Liz S
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Funny, some names have been left off the list -- onpurpose, you think? Where is Leah's name? Guess, if you speak out about your experience, you don't get counted. The Sudweeks must just pick and chose alumni. You would think 15 months would qualify as alumni. Strange school. Think they don't want anyone asking Leah questions????
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Some other names are missing on that Alumni list too. WONDER WHY???? Won't mention their names since they are abuse victims TOO!
Guess they do pick and choose what names to put on that little Alumni list.
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On 2005-06-24 10:40:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Please explain to me how Caitlyn is being 'rehabilitated' if she's just being instructed to lie and create fake students? Sounds like she's being told to participate in the types of behavior that caused her to be sent there in the first place. "
How is it you think you know why she was sent there?
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Not even Chris G listed as alumni? Wonder why?
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Perhaps just shoddy records from a shoddy school?
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HEY GRANDMA,
HAS IT EVER OCCURED TO YOU THAT YOUR GRANDAUGHTER IS NOT WORTHY OF BEING LISTED WITH THE OTHER GREAT STUDENTS. FYI SHE ISNT ON THE ALUMNI EITHER. DOES THAT HURT YOUR FEELINGS. MAYBE YOU SHOULD SUE SOMEONE. ISNT THAT HOW YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY. SHOULD I POST HOW I FOUND THAT INFO. BAD DEAL WHEN PEOPLE SUE FOR A LIVING. YUK ON YOU
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now i understand why Leah is such a fake. she has you as her teacher Grandma. by the way where is her mom? why doesnt she post. Maybe lawyer Jack should look into this family if were slinging mud here. im a little tired of how it is so onesided. This is a game we never learned from Cheryl.
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Sarah you are awesome. I wish more people took the time to care. I miss you Sweetheart. I will be at the school monday and will try to call you. I dont dare say my name though. I have never seen such ruthless behavior before. You know i love Cheryl and my heart is aching for their family. I have known them for over 15 years and Cheryl is the most unselfish person i have ever met. dont you fall for any of their tactics. I can see they are trying to play you kids against eachother. This is devilish, but this whole thing is. To me it just confirms, how good the school is. Otherwise it wouldnt be getting so much opposition. I hope the kids will be strong. I love you all with all my heart. I think well i hope you know who i am. S
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Hey Nick
you were never one of many words. I am proud of you. It is not easy to say anything on this... whatever.... sounds like a bunch of bored people looking for an easy buck. I hope they get whats coming to them. peace man
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ya Nick i gotta tell you. It means alot you stickin up for Cheryl. Looks like someone is getting to Rob. why are they playin everyone against eachother. far as i can tell looks like alot of anons playing everyone. b.s. if you ask me. love you brother.
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On 2005-06-24 22:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Perhaps just shoddy records from a shoddy school?"
This place is a school?
What do they teach?
How to talk trash and bash other kids and parents?
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ya in other words its a school guided by principles that you obviously no nothing about. conviction that you obviously dont understand. courage to stand up for what we know is true, even if you are not popular. and vision to know when to stop casting pearls before swine. why do you think people can only take this site for so long. bye bye...im out.
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On 2005-06-24 23:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"HEY GRANDMA,
HAS IT EVER OCCURED TO YOU THAT YOUR GRANDAUGHTER IS NOT WORTHY OF BEING LISTED WITH THE OTHER GREAT STUDENTS. FYI SHE ISNT ON THE ALUMNI EITHER. DOES THAT HURT YOUR FEELINGS. MAYBE YOU SHOULD SUE SOMEONE. ISNT THAT HOW YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY. SHOULD I POST HOW I FOUND THAT INFO. BAD DEAL WHEN PEOPLE SUE FOR A LIVING. YUK ON YOU"
Be careful telling lies on a public forum. I have absolutely nothing to hide. My last experience with a police officer was when I got a speeding ticket 39 years ago. Keep searching, Baby. Any money I or my family hve ever made is by going to work every day doing an honest job. You better be able to back up your insinuations with proof. Let's see what you have. Why don't you show your proof, instead of little suggestions of threats of exposure of something that is non-existent???? Be my guest.
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On 2005-06-25 05:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"ya in other words its a school guided by principles that you obviously no nothing about. conviction that you obviously dont understand. courage to stand up for what we know is true, even if you are not popular. and vision to know when to stop casting pearls before swine. why do you think people can only take this site for so long. bye bye...im out."
Let me guess -- hmmmm -- I got it, they don't like the truth about Whitmore? They run out of filthy language to use? I know, GROUP GROUP GROUP. It's time for Cheryl to let loose of some of that rage. Time for someone to get help going down the stairs?
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I was at the Whitmore from May 2002 until July 2003. I did notice I wasn't on that page, so I asked, and they said it was because that was before the website was even there. It was called Who Am I Discovery back then and was a program, not a boarding school as it is now. I was visiting when the Zita incident went down because my grandmother lives in a little town in southern Utah called Salina, and thought I'd take a little trip to see Mark & Cheryl and all the kids. I stayed there for a couple days and then also stopped by for a day on my up to Salt Lake airport.
Why do I have to explain myself. I don't know why you all can't just listen to the real truth instead of all these lies going around.
About the missing alumni, I really don't know, but if I had to guess, probably for the kid's sake. I'd suppose that if they didn't like their experiences at the school, they wouldn't want to be affilated with it, would they?
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On 2005-06-25 12:45:00, mouse wrote:
"I was at the Whitmore from May 2002 until July 2003. I did notice I wasn't on that page, so I asked, and they said it was because that was before the website was even there. It was called Who Am I Discovery back then and was a program, not a boarding school as it is now. I was visiting when the Zita incident went down because my grandmother lives in a little town in southern Utah called Salina, and thought I'd take a little trip to see Mark & Cheryl and all the kids. I stayed there for a couple days and then also stopped by for a day on my up to Salt Lake airport.
Why do I have to explain myself. I don't know why you all can't just listen to the real truth instead of all these lies going around.
About the missing alumni, I really don't know, but if I had to guess, probably for the kid's sake. I'd suppose that if they didn't like their experiences at the school, they wouldn't want to be affilated with it, would they?"
It wasn't a "boarding" school until November of 2004. A lot of the kids on the alumni list were gone by then. No, my guess is they don't want anyone who tells what really goes on, on the alumni list. It seems those are most of the ones not there.
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I didn't claim for it to have been a boarding school any time before that. I just said that it is now. I am fully aware the Whitmore Academy became accredited in November 2004. Those kids are on there because they left when the school had that website.
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i cant believe anyone on this site can speak about rob after you kept calling him gangland now all of the sudden yall think you have him brainwashed well i think he is past reading the trash on this site he sounds like a great kid and no matter what yall say cheryl cares for him no matter what
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What was that comment about Rob suppose to mean? Seems he has simply moved on with his life, and is doing very well. What's wrong with that? Happy, great relationship, moving forward, not stuck in some mind control trap. Great guy, great girlfriend, great future. Sounds like he's a WINNER! Not playing the Cheryl game! Good for you Rob. Good for you Logan! Winners for sure.
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On 2005-06-25 19:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"i cant believe anyone on this site can speak about rob after you kept calling him gangland now all of the sudden yall think you have him brainwashed well i think he is past reading the trash on this site he sounds like a great kid and no matter what yall say cheryl cares for him no matter what"
Cheryl doesn't give a rip...she ...withholds love....instigates hate....manipulates...she still loves ROB......she doesn't care....as sOOn as she lies her way free.....via a 28 day RITALIN free spree....she will beat feet....no contact with former inmates......BET....she don't give a RIP.....REST IN PEACE.....AMF
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Rob is his own person. Give it up. BRAINWASHED HIM? It must be ritalin, adderal, GROUP time!!!!
Rob keeps his milk in a refrigerator now, not on the ledge....Three squares, and no manipulation. Freedom at last!
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Believe it is "Candidacy Status of Accreditation" and the file is "RED FLAGGED" ...
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Ok "Angelina"
If you were really at the Whitmore from May 2002 to July 2003, than you had a two or three month overlap with Leah at the most. I have this funny feeling that you actually arrived October 31st 2003, the same day as a girl named Lindsey. In one of your earlier posts you were talking about all the stuff Leah stole from you, Hello Kitty stuff to be exact, the same exact items that a certain girl named CAITLYN accused Leah of stealing when I was there. That's funny. You also spoke about a girl named Annie (me) as if you knew her. You spoke about situations you would know nothing about unless you were there. I've got a newsflash for you, THERE WERE NO ANGELINA'S AT THE WHITMORE WHEN I WAS!!! Leah also left before I did so she was gone for the Zita incident too. So don't claim you met her then, 'cause that's ridiculous. You are tripping yourself up in your own lies left and right. Caitlyn, GIVE IT UP.
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On 2005-06-26 00:43:00, Tha Truth wrote:
"Ok "Angelina"
If you were really at the Whitmore from May 2002 to July 2003, than you had a two or three month overlap with Leah at the most. I have this funny feeling that you actually arrived October 31st 2003, the same day as a girl named Lindsey. In one of your earlier posts you were talking about all the stuff Leah stole from you, Hello Kitty stuff to be exact, the same exact items that a certain girl named CAITLYN accused Leah of stealing when I was there. That's funny. You also spoke about a girl named Annie (me) as if you knew her. You spoke about situations you would know nothing about unless you were there. I've got a newsflash for you, THERE WERE NO ANGELINA'S AT THE WHITMORE WHEN I WAS!!! Leah also left before I did so she was gone for the Zita incident too. So don't claim you met her then, 'cause that's ridiculous. You are tripping yourself up in your own lies left and right. Caitlyn, GIVE IT UP."
::drummer:: Tell it sista!
"... and the truth shall set you free"
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That IS the problem Tha Truth. MOUSE just talks and talks and seems to forget what she posts. People who lie usually do trap themselves in their own little lie-traps.
And people who talk/LIE to and about OTHERS also never stop to think: These kids also talk to EACH OTHER, and that's when THEY FIND OUT that lies are being spread about them by a certain person who professes to "love them." This is a SICK LITTLE GAME that when discovered, helps the victims of this type of manipulation to realize they are not loved but are being controlled, used, and abused! When these kids realize the TRUTH, and speak out---then they are attacked. A hard lesson to learn.
Why does Caitlyn persist in these postings, when the non-truths are so obvious--and anyone with a pea brain knows there is not and never was an ANGELINA Student? One-word answer: Cheryl.
Rather pitiful to use a young girl like this.
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How many of you people who are complaining about the Whitmore Academy were referred by a licensed professional, i.e. psychiatrist, psychologist, etc.?
I would suspect the answer to this question is NONE!!! You were looking for some place to send your kid so that you did not have to deal with him/her and the truth. You sent them away because you put yourself first, not your child.
And think about all the time you are spending on the computer and this website......you should be spending this time with your kids....no wonder you have problems!!!!
You are the REAL CHILD ABUSERS....so, it seems that you are in good company when you talk about the Whitmore Academy people.
IN OTHER WORDS, "PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES!!!"
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On 2005-06-26 09:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
Why does Caitlyn persist in these postings, when the non-truths are so obvious--and anyone with a pea brain knows there is not and never was an ANGELINA Student?
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What does it matter who "mouse" is? Why waste time dwelling on it and belittling anyone who posts?
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Some of the comments made about Caitlyn/Angelina may be harsh, but it's not just for the sake of belittling her. If it were, I'd understand exactly what you're saying. However, Caitlyn is deliberately lying to and misleading people on this site who are simply trying to find answers. Anyone who was at the Whitmore in the last year and a half knows EXACTLY who "Angelina" is and they're sick of her games. We're just trying to show her that enough people know who she actually is and she should just give up the charade. She's taking advantage of people who don't know any better and she thinks she's getting away with it. This is the way she always acted at the Whitmore. She knew more about computers than anyone there so she thought she could get away with everything, she thought she was better. Guess what, I may not spend every waking minute on my computer, or reading about hackers...but I'm not dumb. I know people. And of course, true to form, after being directly challenged like this, Caitlyn will avoid responding. She's just like that, she'll light the fuse and hide.
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On 2005-06-26 11:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"How many of you people who are complaining about the Whitmore Academy were referred by a licensed professional, i.e. psychiatrist, psychologist, etc.?
I would suspect the answer to this question is NONE!!! You were looking for some place to send your kid so that you did not have to deal with him/her and the truth. You sent them away because you put yourself first, not your child.
And think about all the time you are spending on the computer and this website......you should be spending this time with your kids....no wonder you have problems!!!!
You are the REAL CHILD ABUSERS....so, it seems that you are in good company when you talk about the Whitmore Academy people.
IN OTHER WORDS, "PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES!!!"
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Not so fast pal, it's my understanind many of these parents were referred to Whitmore by Sue Scheff, a professional program referral agent.
Please try to keep your facts straight instead of making wild (and totally false) accusations.
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MOUSE-GIRL needs to disconnect from her computer and grow up. Child abuse is a very serious matter not a joke.
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So, PAL....what are her credentials???? Is she a mental health professional or not?
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Right. Parents did not send their children to Whitmore because they were simply tired of dealing with them. Most if not all the children were being seen by professionals prior to their placement at Whitmore. Parents were DECEIVED by fraud, and false advertising-- and believed the Whitmore would provide Education and various Therapy--SERVICES promised by contractual agreement, and PAID FOR.
As for Caitlyn/MOUSE: it is not 'Belittling' to ask a person why they are out-right lying. And it has been stated that this girl is most probably being used. No one has every blamed these children for what they have done at the direction of the owner(s) of Whitmore; this girl included. Never believed Caitlyn/MOUSE really knows or cares about the 'inner workings' of PURE in the first place--so who knows if Caitlyn/MOUSE is actually the "TYPIST" anyway, or if it's just Cheryl using her name?????
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Therapy implies a need for trained mental health professionals. What were YOU doing to ensure this was in place?
Any responsible parent would have conducted a thorough investigation prior to sending their child anywhere.
Reading an advertisement or contract isn't enough....it is your responsibility as a parent to do what is right by your child. When you don't, you are neglecting your child and this is CHILD ABUSE. You gave your power as a parent to a complete stranger who happens to be so conveniently a long way from your home. (OUT OF SITE = DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM! 'Fess up now...someday YOU will have to look in the mirror!!)
And, by the way, isn't it strange that not one child complained of being hurt by anyone at Whitmore on Parents Day?
It's the leaf-tree thing....parents have issues...therefore..so, do the children. DEAL with it!!!
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Talked to and checked the license on the Therapist: Tim Lowe.
He was licensed by the State of Utah, and had no criminal history, or lawsuits against him at all.
At the time: the only thing that showed up negative that was really of concern about the Sudweeks was the animal abuse in Canada--and this was explained away by the Sudweeks, and the referring agency, Sue Scheff of PURE--the same way they keep "explaining it away on this forum."
Sadly, we believed them.
At the time of placement: Whitmore Academy WAS LICENSED by the State of Utah as a treatment facility. This license was revoked after the abuse allegations in November 2004. Parents WERE RESPONSIBLE.
The owners were the irresponsible parties HERE!!!
One parent DID remove her child during parents weekend! Think she did not take lightly to the son being thrown down the stairs by Cheryl Sudweeks.
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What is this??? Blame the victims? Blame the parents?
HOW ABOUT BLAMING THE ABUSERS?
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NOT ENOUGH....talking to two people does not constitute a thorough investigation...particularly when they are all connected through the $$$ end.
All states grant licenses to various facilities and individuals for various purposes. It does not mean the state endorses the facility or the credibility of the person.
It takes more than looking for licensure...almost anyone can get that..I'll bet you can find one on the internet for a small price!!
YOU should have done your homework.....that is the point......GET IT?? JEEZ....animal abuse should have been enough of a CLUE!!!!
But, I guess you were in a HURRY???!!! Sounds IRRESPONSIBLE to me!!!
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Hello Sue----playing lawyer again are you?
Best leave this to the big boys who are qualified don't you think?
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What's irresponsible if a referring company that sends parents and kids to a program, knowing the owners are being investigated for criminal child abuse, and then continuing to send parents and kids to this program after charges have been filed! Now that's irresponsible!!!!!
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Bottom line:
Cheryl Sudweeks has been charged with 7 counts of child abuse against 4 children.
The investigation is still ongoing!
SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!
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Who referred most if not ALL these parents and kids to Whitmore? Sue Scheff and PURE.
SPEAKS for itself, too!
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It's real hard to look inward and put blame where blame belongs...EVERYONE has a sales pitch...it is the buyer who must beware.
Surely, if you were to buy a new or used car,you would give more time to checking it out than most of you have given to the WA...For gosh sakes, these are your children...FRAGILE CHILDREN at that....not some piece of metal.
NOW, let' talk about where the blame lies....it is in the hands of the ones who made the decision to send their children away rather than looking for answers at home. FACE IT!
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Cheryl Sudweeks is charged with 7 counts of child abuse against 4 children.
Sue Scheff most probably referred each of these children to Whitmore.
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On 2005-06-26 17:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Cheryl Sudweeks is charged with 7 counts of child abuse against 4 children.
Sue Scheff most probably referred each of these children to Whitmore."
WAH! WAH! WAH! Do you want cheese with all that whine???
ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for your part in all this...you sent your child there!
ANYONE can be charged....AND, anyone can press charges...with enough manipulation of the system and the children.
Wonder if you are planning a civil suit after all is said and done...wouldn't be a big surprise. MONEY makes the world go 'round...that's how you got into this in the first place....you sent your children away because you could monetarily afford it...Almost $40,000....That's a LOT OF IRRESPONSIBLE spending without a THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.....!!!
BY THE WAY, WHILE you are on this website all day long, where are your children? Who is taking care of them? You spend all your time here...whining...and, probably looking for another place to send your kids away!!! AMAZING!
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On 2005-06-26 18:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-26 17:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Cheryl Sudweeks is charged with 7 counts of child abuse against 4 children.
Sue Scheff most probably referred each of these children to Whitmore."
WAH! WAH! WAH! Do you want cheese with all that whine???
ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for your part in all this...you sent your child there!
ANYONE can be charged....AND, anyone can press charges...with enough manipulation of the system and the children.
Wonder if you are planning a civil suit after all is said and done...wouldn't be a big surprise. MONEY makes the world go 'round...that's how you got into this in the first place....you sent your children away because you could monetarily afford it...Almost $40,000....That's a LOT OF IRRESPONSIBLE spending without a THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.....!!!
BY THE WAY, WHILE you are on this website all day long, where are your children? Who is taking care of them? You spend all your time here...whining...and, probably looking for another place to send your kids away!!! AMAZING!
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WRONG.. the only parents wasting their time (and money) are those who keep their kid in any program accused of abusing their children.
Talk about AMAZING ... what kind of a parent does that?
One stuck on stupid?
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WRONG.. the only parents wasting their time (and money) are those who keep their kid in any program accused of abusing their children.
Talk about AMAZING ... what kind of a parent does that?
One stuck on stupid?
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STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!! If the shoe fits...etc.
So, what about where the children are when you spend all your time on this website? Who's caring for them?
Talk about STUCK on STUPID!!
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ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for your part in all this...you sent your child there!
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Sounds just like a wwasp supporter. Its like they think it is the parent's fault the child was battered by the people who are supposed to be providing therapy and education.
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STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!! If the shoe fits...etc.
So, what about where the children are when you spend all your time on this website? Who's caring for them?
Talk about STUCK on STUPID!!"
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So, has anyone actually read the Whitmore Academy contract?
If you did AND sent your child there, you definitely should test your IQ!
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out....take a look-see:
http://www.isaccorp.org/gallery/whitmore/page1 (http://www.isaccorp.org/gallery/whitmore/page1)
Don't kid yourselves....all this is about $$$$...you watch....a civil suit is on the horizon!!!
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Parents do not bring CHARGES!!!! CHARGES are brought by the County Attorney, Mr. Eldridge on behalf of the State of Utah!
And not one parent signed any agreement that gave Cheryl Sudweeks permission to abuse any children. As a matter of fact, each parent signed a contract with the owners of Whitmore Academy that stated no physical punishment would be used AT ALL!!!!!!
That means very very simply that Cheryl Sudweeks was not allowed to phyically abuse any kids in any manner what-so-ever! It is against the law to physically abuse kids.
Cheryl Sudweeks has been charged on 7 counts of criminal child abuse against 4 children.
The investigation is still on-going.
Trying to blame the parents, or the children who are the victims will not wash!
Go peddle your song and dance somewhere else.
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On 2005-06-26 20:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Parents do not bring CHARGES!!!! CHARGES are brought by the County Attorney, Mr. Eldridge on behalf of the State of Utah!
And not one parent signed any agreement that gave Cheryl Sudweeks permission to abuse any children. As a matter of fact, each parent signed a contract with the owners of Whitmore Academy that stated no physical punishment would be used AT ALL!!!!!!
That means very very simply that Cheryl Sudweeks was not allowed to phyically abuse any kids in any manner what-so-ever! It is against the law to physically abuse kids.
Cheryl Sudweeks has been charged on 7 counts of criminal child abuse against 4 children.
The investigation is still on-going.
Trying to blame the parents, or the children who are the victims will not wash!
Go peddle your song and dance somewhere else.
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Sure read the contract:
Page 16: "We do not accept any child who has a criminal record."
How do the Sudweeks explain having students currently enrolled at the Whitmore Academy who are reporting to their own personal PO's, and are being required to complete required community service, to meet the requirments of their probations?
Wonder how the Sudweeks gained approval for these court-appointed placements, and who referred these students to the Whitmore Academy?
Does Mr. Stettler think this meets the requirements of an ACADEMICS ONLY Boarding School that does not need to be licensed and regulated by the State of Utah?
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Also read this part of the Contract:
Page 3
"In no event shall any physical force and/or confinement be used for the purposes of inflicting any punishment of any kind upon any Student."
Think this applies to Cheryl Sudweeks!
No physical force...no punishment...of any kind..on any student.
She can not abuse kids, period!
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So what if a civil suit is on the horizon?
The point still is:
Kids should not be abused at Whitmore Academy or any other school.
Cheryl Sudweeks has been charged with 7 counts of child abuse against 4 different children!
That is a fact---she has been charged!
Kids should not be abused for any reason!