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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Moron award goes to...
« on: January 21, 2011, 10:08:36 AM »
Me too.  I responded....don't know if it'll show up.

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Aspen Education Group / Re: Why does Aspen hire people with no education?
« on: January 21, 2011, 09:58:54 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
But you also need to keep in mind that many of these kids dropped out of school and to get them into the classroom with dedicated teachers and open their books , get them back on track academically and study is a huge step.

That's, almost word for word, what Newton said in his deposition regarding Lulu Corter.  Well, they weren't in school anyway so it's just fine to treat them like animals!  (Obviously paraphrasing that last part but the underlined part is exactly what he said.

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I'm familiar enough with quite a few of these people (most I had no idea they had any connection to DFAF).  Next time I see them we'll be having a talk.


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Honorable Richard Baker
Former Mayor
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Community Anti-Drug Advocate
Jupiter, FL
Columba Bush
Former First Lady
State of Florida
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Honorable Jeb Bush
Former Governor
State of Florida
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Robert L. DuPont, M.D.
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Institute for Behavior and Health
Rockville, MD
Mary Evertz
Community Volunteer
Retired Journalist
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Fiorentino & Associates
Jacksonville, FL
James Gills, M.D.
St. Luke’s Cataract and
Laser Institute
Tarpon Springs, FL
Alfred Hoffman, Jr.
President
Hoffman Partners, LLC
Fort Meyers, FL
Susan Latvala
Pinellas County Commissioner
Clearwater, FL
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Professor
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI
Honorable Daniel Lungren, Esq.
Congressman 3rd District California
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Christy McCampbell
Vice President
Global Anti-Terrorism Program
USIS
Falls Church, VA
H. Lee Moffi tt, Esq.
Former Speaker
Florida House of Representatives
Tallahassee, FL
Honorable Brad Owen
Lt. Governor
State of Washington
Olympia, WA
Steven Raymund
Chairman and CEO
Tech Data Industries
Clearwater, FL
Honorable Darryl Ervin Rouson, Esq.
Representative, District 55
Tallahassee, FL
Karen P. Tandy
Former Administrator
Drug Enforcement Administration
Washington, DC
Andrew P. Thomas, Esq.
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CEDRO
Lima, Peru
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Tampa, FL
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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: The Whooter Show - Cancelled
« on: January 21, 2011, 09:50:17 AM »
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
 His only intention was to muddy the waters so badly that nobody could find any information they were looking for.  Failing that he would just start posting that people sexually molested their own children, which, to an outside reader, is the point where they say "This site is ridiculous!" and stop looking, which was Whooter's goal - to drive information seekers away from Fornits and to program marketing sites.  

 :tup:  :tup:  :tup:

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Now that will stop and we can get back to real discussions like we had before Whooter arrived.  You may not see that, Oscar, because Whooter was here when you got here, so you don't know how nice it was before to deal with just your standard industry trolls. Whooter literally dedicated every moment of every day into destroying this resource and he was successful for six years.  It had to be stopped sometime.

That's true.  There were many, many true discussions before his arrival.  He made this site miserable and virtually unreadable.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: LGATs - Large Group Awareness Training
« on: January 21, 2011, 09:47:22 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
My wife went to an LGAT

'splains a lot

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The drill here on fornits sometimes is if one person had a bad experience than they assume every AA meeting is abusive.

No, the similarities between AA and programs are such that it gives us the creeps BIG time.  Worship Bill W ("Dr." Newton/Dean Vause/Helen Peterman etc. etc.), follow these steps or you'll DIE! (in our case 7 condensed out of the original AA 12) Teaching people that they're powerless, when they're far from it.  And don't even get me started on how dangerous it is to give one person (sponsor) so much control over someone else's life (oldcomer/newcomer - group).

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: The Whooter Show - Cancelled
« on: January 21, 2011, 09:32:59 AM »
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Good morning.  And what a wonderful morning it is.  Let me be the first to pass on the good news that Whooter has been sentenced to a lifetime ban from Fornits.  Finally he has been held accountable for his atrocious behavior and his obsessive/compulsive disorder will have to be satisfied via other endeavors.

Since I know you're reading but can't respond, let me just give it to you "straight out".  Say it with me now...

Ha,Ha,Ha!
 :cheers:  :twofinger:  :soapbox:  :deal:  :roflmao:


I need the deets!  How/why did this happen?  I just told Gatekeeper via PM that I'm just about done with Fornits (yeah, yeah...nobody cares, I know).  It's just so tiresome and accomplishes nothing.   And I disagree that if we'd all just have ignored him, he'd have gone away or become background noise.  His profession, IMO, is marketing a/k/a shilling in addition to being a narcissist (yes, internet dx, I know) that could NEVER admit wrong. He's very skilled at it and convinces potential program parents that what they're doing is right and I just couldn't let that go by.  

Glad he's gone but I do wish someone "on the other side" that is sensible, with some integrity would come along.  That, IMO again, is what makes progress.....being able to have a serious dialogue about the TTI and what it actually does.

My .02

Oh, and DJ.....

Ha,Ha,Ha!

 :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
Damn that was annoying.

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Quote from: "heretik"
He never answers the questions that would save childrens lives. He doesn't care.

I believe this was asked of him yesterday and he's STILL yet to respond.  Very telling.

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Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Isn't this called "Flooding"?  Repeating the exact same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again?


LOL, a little different when your friends do it?



What friends??  I've hardly been on here lately and have the ones I've actually met in person I could, literally, count on one hand.

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Isn't this called "Flooding"?  Repeating the exact same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again?

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Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Some do work outside the law, I think we agree here.

Can you provide us a list of the ones you are aware of that operate illegally?  Thanks in advance.

Which ones, Whooter?


Yeah, which ones?

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Web forum hosting / Re: Moderator Helping Cover Up Abuses
« on: January 20, 2011, 10:11:58 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Dr Fucktard"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
those opinions don't send you away to a re-education camp like those bogus questionnaires that programs use.

If it looks like a druggie, acts like a druggie, talks like a druggie...

Need I say more?

Ha,Ha,Ha,


Yeah, it ain't so fucking funny when you lose two years of your life.  To us at least....I'm sure it's farking HILARIOUS to you.

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Web forum hosting / Re: Moderator Helping Cover Up Abuses
« on: January 20, 2011, 10:03:12 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Believe it or not we have posters here who think that EdCons and therapists cannot diagnose kids over the internet.  They claim if the kid isnt seen in person then it must be a bogus diagnosis.


Yeah, crazy I know.   ::)  ::)   Those questionnaires are dead on!   ::)  ::)

What qualifications to EdCons have to "diagnose" ANYone?  And please dont' cite their own review board that basically rubber stamps anyone as long as they can pay the fee.

Exactly my point to none-ya.  He claimed he could diagnose me over the internet, so why the double standard?

No double standard.....he can't.  He can form opinions, but those opinions don't send you away to a re-education camp like those bogus questionnaires that programs use.

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Web forum hosting / Re: Moderator Helping Cover Up Abuses
« on: January 20, 2011, 09:31:40 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Believe it or not we have posters here who think that EdCons and therapists cannot diagnose kids over the internet.  They claim if the kid isnt seen in person then it must be a bogus diagnosis.


Yeah, crazy I know.   ::)  ::)   Those questionnaires are dead on!   ::)  ::)

What qualifications to EdCons have to "diagnose" ANYone?  And please dont' cite their own review board that basically rubber stamps anyone as long as they can pay the fee.

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Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"
But "trying their best to help their kids" means not using the services of the programs which are pure quackery.

Sending Junior to a quack factory isn't "helping".

I agree, here with you a bit DJ, the parents should seek out the best help for their child.  I would not recommend those programs which are quackery or utilize unproven methods.  The parents need to investigate the options available to them and choose a direction which is best for their child and family.

Can you provide us names of some programs which are practicing quackery or unproven methods?  I'd like to see your list of programs we should all avoid.

We're all ears, Whooter.  Tell us the quack programs you believe should be avoided.


I'd like to hear the answer to that as well.  Doubt we'll ever get one, but we can hope.

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Quote from: "Whooter"
Exactly, I think we agree here.  If they are not getting the TRUE help that they need locally then it is good parenting to look outside the local area to get help for your child.  The parents should not just throw up their hands and say "Oh well Anne Bonney says we should not look outside our local area for help, lets just hope for the best and keep the child at home.".


You are really getting tiresome.  Get some new material.

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Do you see what I mean?


No

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