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The Troubled Teen Industry / CASA CLOSING
« on: September 17, 2004, 12:48:00 PM »
This is still great news. I saw it in the Drug War Chronicle

Of course better news would have been that the Mexican police had raided the place, taken the kids to the American Consulate for repatriation and arrested the staff members. Then a few months later WWASP cries foul that dozens of its staff members have not been accounted for and there are mysteriously fresh looking holes a few miles from the CASA facility.  

The kids will never be free until the sands run red with WWASPie blood![ This Message was edited by: FaceKhan on 2004-09-17 09:49 ]

The Troubled Teen Industry / Opening my own center for children
« on: January 26, 2004, 01:38:00 AM »
Why don't you find a profession that does not involve torturing and controlling others.

The Troubled Teen Industry / escorts
« on: January 21, 2004, 11:18:00 PM »
When you think about it, this just reinforces the kind of divisive cult experience on the family

Basically if the kid wants to sue the escorts he is in effect suing his own parents which would probably make it harder to reconcile with them even if he wants to later.

Any lawyers out there that can tell us whether an agreement to pay the legal fees of an escort company is valid? I know there are some aspects of law where someone promises to pay the debts (legal fees) of another that have a lot of extra rules and restrictions.

I do agree however that this is definitely a good way for a kid to get back at parents that still believe in the program bs. By suing the escorts, and I would imagine that many programs have this clause as well in their enrollment contracts, the kid is effectively suing his own parents because they will be the ones held responsible for the legal costs. I guess this means a parent better make a good choice in escort companies and programs because if the kid decides to sue when he is an adult its the parents who foot the bill. Of course if parents are paying the legal fees, they may have the ultimate right to decide to settle or fight. Any lawyer opinions on this?

So they have gone from cutting off their circulation and pinning them down until they have pins and needles to just jabbing needles into them. Efficiency has increased. Therapy has not.

And experimenting on unwilling inmates (can a prisoner really volunteer) is hardly an improvement.

In addition any inmate who was playing the game and trying get out of there would report not only that they believed themselves mentally ill (accepting their illness) but also that the accupuncture helped. How could a person not be distressed living in a gulag. Of course they are distressed and likely the added attention to their needs, contact with people outside the cult (the practitioners) and the possibility of convincing staff they are cured was enough to boost their mood.

And if this place is so therepuetic why did the control group (supposedly recieving conventional therapy which of course is a lie) get worse. Because nearly everyone gets worse the longer they are in captivity.
"All of the darkness of the world cannot put out the light of one small candle."

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Paris Hilton a CEDU Dropout?
« on: January 16, 2004, 07:37:00 PM »
I hope she sues them for violating their so called confidentiality. Its a good thing they didn't get in her head cause you can be sure their family probably would have used their considerable power and money to make sure those CEDU assholes would be in their own dark hole somewhere.

"There is an institution and in a padded room is a man who spends his days and nights screaming at things only he can see, things we put inside his head. He has to be restrained 24 hours a day or he would claw out his eyes just to make it stop."

Just a thought on appropriate punishment for these power crazed mind rapists.

I must admit a sudden new found respect for Paris Hilton. Not much but its a start. I can at least respect that she is smart enough to know she does not have to pretend as if she wants to have a "normal" career. She knows she does not have to work if she does not want to and quite frankly, why work when you are that rich?

2 months and she called a limo.

As for not letting them get inside my head, I can do that just fine. Strength of will is not really the issue for me. However if they think they are gonna spend the days beating the crap out of me then a staff member is going to get a pencil shoved through their eye when they least expect it.

 Kill one mindrapist and its a crime, kill a million mindrapists and its a statistic.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Do not use WWASP
« on: January 15, 2004, 12:18:00 PM »
Parents who drink, your kids will almost certainly drink too. Deal with it, you set the example.

Same thing for parents who smoke pot.

If you don't want your kids to drink pull them aside when they are like 12-14 and hand them a beer or a glass of cheap wine. Most likely they will spit it out. That will probably keep them from drinking till they are about 16-18. Its only when you make it a big deal that they are gonna want to do it just to excercise their free will.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Gooooo Media!!! Whooooo Hooooo!
« on: January 15, 2004, 12:13:00 PM »
Anyone with authority over another, especially a so called child who abuses it in this manner ought to be hanged. Our society has a lot of problems. Oh well, someday those guards are gonna run into someone they abused who is probably by that point a complete sociopath. Revenge is a dish best served cold. I would suggest a few ways that those people should die but I am sure their victims will have plenty of time to plan it.

The Troubled Teen Industry / An Excerpt from Sue Scheff's Deposition
« on: December 29, 2003, 02:58:00 AM »
I want WWASPS to lose because they operate programs. PURE just refers and makes money off the programs. WWASPS actually does the torturing. They are far worse. I really want both of them to spend every dollar they have fighting each other until they are utterly annihilated but I will settle for PURE wiping the floor with WWASP and exposing every dirty secret in open court where it can be used against them again and again by the real victims who deserve compensation for their suffering.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Pastors sentenced for child beating
« on: December 18, 2003, 05:29:00 PM »
Well at least its an A Felony in Texas. They are going to jail for long time if they are convicted.

Personally I think child abuse resulting in death, permanent injury or over a long period of time should be eligible for the death penalty. What these guys need is a short trial and a long rope.

The Troubled Teen Industry / WWASP / Ivy Ridge / Medical News
« on: December 18, 2003, 05:24:00 PM »
WWASP begins to see why concentration camp conditions are dangerous in and of themselves.

It was only a matter of time before an epidemic of preventable but highly dangerous disease hit a WWASP facility in the US. They refuse medical treatment until the kid is practicly dead. The facilities are disgusting and unmaintained. There is no sanitation. The foriegn programs have already had cases where kids almost died from disease.

If there is an outbreak of TB at Ivy Ridge which there very likely is according to the article. If a kid dies because medical care was withheld that is negligent homocide in NY state.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Latest from Tico Times
« on: December 02, 2003, 01:15:00 PM »
Parents already commit crimes by sending their kids to be abused. Its called due diligence. The law is nearly impossible to enforce because the kids lack the right to even write a letter to a lawyer and ask for help.

What needs to be reformed are the rights of kids. No involuntary commitment without a fair hearing.
Free and unmonitored communication with a lawyer, parents, and anyone else while they are committed.
Mandatory Mininum of 5 years prison time for anyone who misrepresents an unlicensed "treatment" center as just a boarding school or any other common child care business such as a summer camp whether through advertising, referrals, or by lying on state licensing/registration documents.

Specific provisions should be included that make the owner/operator and/or all members of the board personally liable for criminal activity on the part of the facility and staff. That means if that program operators will closely monitor everything because it is their ass on the line.

Licensing for all programs, strict requirements, random inspections, instant termination of license power given to the inspectors. Inspectors should be able to instantly suspend the license of any program for 30 days and pull all the kids out. This power should be protected from all judicial injunctions until a hearing. That means no program owned judges can issue injunctions to keep the inspectors from shutting down an abusive program.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Alex Asch's Story
« on: November 29, 2003, 04:35:00 AM »
Well in terms of the cost of the room and stuff, currently the program has 12 kids and they expecting to double in size. They just moved to a very large house. And Boulder is an expensive area to live from what I have heard from a lot of people.

Still a lot of potential profit for a guy who has very few qualifications and apparently did at one time work for CEDU but supposedly quit because of what goes on there.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Alex Asch's Story
« on: November 28, 2003, 02:00:00 PM »
Thats what these programs charge. Figure that at most it costs maybe 1k a month for the kids room and maybe another 500 for food maximum. That leaves 3500 some of which goes to insurance and most of it probably just ends up in the guys pocket.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Alex Asch's Story
« on: November 26, 2003, 01:47:00 PM »
I know why this is bothering me more lately. Cause my friend Alex who got kidnapped and thats how I ended up in this cause is now telling me that the over 18 program that he openly admits is not very helpful for him and after 18 months at 5500 a month his Dad has put his foot down on his Mother's delusions that she is a perfect mother and just has an evil kid. Now the program owner offered him a "job".

I don't even want to get into the argument with him over the fact that the owner as well as my friend have no qualifications whatsoever and regardless of how much or little money they actually make from this program its still a scam. My friend always says they pay a lot of insurance. That may be true but not for an over 18 program the way they do for a juvenile program. The owner is like a failed stand up comic. Place is called AIM House in Boulder Co.

Thats a great tactic, take a guy who has trouble finding a job and does not really want college at this point, and basically provide little more than a place to live for a year and a half for 5500 a month and then offer him a job to keep him in the cult.

Maybe when the job falls through as it often does, he will start to get his head cleared. He says he is moving into his own place in Denver by the end up the year. Maybe 30 minutes of distance will get him back to thinking for himself.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Alex Asch's Story
« on: November 26, 2003, 05:31:00 AM »
Also along with the passive resistance thing, I hear that singing a song in your head is a good way to ignore just about anything. They can be yelling at you and you just space out with your song all the time. I guess its like counting the ceiling tiles but perhaps a bit less boring.

The violent route could work well if the place can't get much worse. If I were in some WWASP hell hole I would just be so dangerous they couldn't keep me. I'd stab a staff guy with a pencil or pen or the nurse with a thermometer. Any staff member is fair game. Fight to maim, go for the eyes, the chest, the throat.

The people who just struggle and fight all the time and get restrained just end up getting beat up a lot from the accounts I have read here. On the other hand a person willing to maim just for spite with no warning or provacation (other than being held prisoner) is just more trouble than the $5k a month is worth.  

This may seem sick, I have not been around the boards as much and I think that anger is rekindling itself about this industry again.

Its true Bartleby and Cool Hand Luke didn't survive but Bartleby died because he gave up on life. No one was really hurting him. Luke was imprisoned by the state, a program can't kill you for attempting escape.

Personally, if it were some kind of wildnerness program I would just refuse to hike. Passive resistance until they kicked me out. If it was some kind of lockdown or cult indoctrination center, fuck em, I am walking out of there and the first one who tries to stop me is gonna be called one eyed jack before they can pile on me. They can't keep me and prosecute me for assault so they gotta choose between being eye gouged one at a time or exposing their operation in a trial or kicking me out of the program.

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