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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: katfish on June 15, 2005, 07:15:00 PM

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: katfish on June 15, 2005, 07:15:00 PM
Hi all,

I'm working on getting a petition up so maybe we can garner up enough support from survivors, friends, family and advocates for the purpose of getting a hearing on the federal bill proposed by Senator Miller of Ca. In the meantime there are several things you can do:

Chairman Hyde's assistant has said Chairman Hyde has been assigned to review Congressman Miller's Proposed Bill 1738 with Chairman Boehner to determine if they will schedule it for hearing. This bill has not been reviewed.   Basically what it would do it require these schools to be looked into- regulated

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1738.IH (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1738.IH):

EVERYONE! write personal letters indicating why you feel Congressman Miller's bill should be scheduled for hearing. Please write to both Chairman Boehner and Chairman Hyde at the address below:

Chairman John Boehner
Committee of Education in the Workplace
1011 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515
or click here

http://johnboehner.house.gov/contact.asp (http://johnboehner.house.gov/contact.asp)


and to:

Chairman Henry Hyde
House International Committee
2170 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515

http://www.house.gov/hyde/ContactMe.htm (http://www.house.gov/hyde/ContactMe.htm)
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: leleNtom on June 16, 2005, 08:26:00 AM
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On 2005-06-15 16:15:00, katfish wrote:

"Hi all,



I'm working on getting a petition up so maybe we can garner up enough support from survivors, friends, family and advocates for the purpose of getting a hearing on the federal bill proposed by Senator Miller of Ca. In the meantime there are several things you can do:



Chairman Hyde's assistant has said Chairman Hyde has been assigned to review Congressman Miller's Proposed Bill 1738 with Chairman Boehner to determine if they will schedule it for hearing. This bill has not been reviewed.   Basically what it would do it require these schools to be looked into- regulated



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1738.IH (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1738.IH):



EVERYONE! write personal letters indicating why you feel Congressman Miller's bill should be scheduled for hearing. Please write to both Chairman Boehner and Chairman Hyde at the address below:



Chairman John Boehner

Committee of Education in the Workplace

1011 Longworth HOB

Washington, DC 20515

or click here



http://johnboehner.house.gov/contact.asp (http://johnboehner.house.gov/contact.asp)





and to:



Chairman Henry Hyde

House International Committee

2170 Rayburn HOB

Washington, DC 20515



http://www.house.gov/hyde/ContactMe.htm (http://www.house.gov/hyde/ContactMe.htm) "


 what is the bill about? if i knew maybe i could sign it. i ve been hearin alot about it, but im sorry to say i know nothing about it.

When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence.
-- Gary Lloyd

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: OverLordd on June 16, 2005, 02:09:00 PM
And the guy is right of course, whats the bill about?

Homeschool is self regulating. The school board is not going to have illiterate useless people living in their homes forever if they don't have a working education policy.

--Sisterbluerose

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: leleNtom on June 16, 2005, 02:10:00 PM
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On 2005-06-16 11:09:00, OverLordd wrote:

"And the guy is right of course, whats the bill about?

Homeschool is self regulating. The school board is not going to have illiterate useless people living in their homes forever if they don't have a working education policy.

--Sisterbluerose

"


damnt... quit calling me a  guy or son or whatever. im a girl... hahaha! ok? hehe

Moralizing, with the force of law or coercion, is a
far greater crime against the constitutional principles of our nation than unauthorized euphoria, regardless of the substance involved, be it chocolate or heroin.
--James



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Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: 001010 on June 16, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
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On 2005-06-16 05:26:00, leleNtom wrote:



 what is the bill about? if i knew maybe i could sign it. i ve been hearin alot about it, but im sorry to say i know nothing about it.

When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence.
-- Gary Lloyd


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The bill:

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George Miller  

NEWS from
Congressman George Miller
7th District, California
Committee on Education & the Workforce, Ranking Member
Committee on Resources, Member
Democratic Policy Committee, Chairman

Representative Miller Introduces Legislation to Curb
Child Abuse in Residential Treatment Programs
Bill would affect facilities both in U.S. and abroad

Wednesday, April 20, 2005

WASHINGTON, DC -- Representative George Miller (D-California) today announced new legislation to combat child abuse at residential treatment programs in the U.S. and abroad.

?There is no excuse for placing children in unlicensed programs with badly trained and abusive staff members, which could lead to mental, physical, and sexual abuse,? said Miller, the senior Democrat on the Education and the Workforce Committee. ?It is truly frightening when the very people entrusted to care for and protect children are actually the ones who endanger them. Residential programs for children should be licensed and meet reasonable safety and staff training standards.?

In November 2003, Miller asked then-Attorney General John Ashcroft to investigate the World Wide Associations of Specialty Programs (WWASP), an organization with several campuses in the U.S. and abroad that provides ?behavior modification? programs for troubled youth, for allegations of child abuse and human rights violations.

Miller first requested the investigation after The New York Times ran a series of articles containing the allegations against WWASP. Despite repeated follow-up requests, however, the Department of Justice refused to investigate. Meanwhile, allegations of abuse continued to surface in published news reports. In December 2004 and January 2005, news agencies reported that five U.S.-owned residential treatment centers in Mexico had been closed by local authorities for numerous health violations and for placing children in punishment cells.

In an effort to deal once and for all with the problem of abuse at residential treatment programs for children, Miller today introduced the ?End Institutional Abuse Against Children Act.? The bill would:


provide $50 million in funding to states to support the licensing of child residential treatment programs. States would have to monitor the programs regularly to ensure their compliance with licensing requirements;
establish federal civil and criminal penalties for the abuse of children in residential treatment programs;
expand federal authority to regulate programs located overseas but run by U.S. companies and provide civil penalties for program operators that violate federal regulations; and
require the State Department to report any abuse of American children overseas.
Residential treatment (or ?behavior modification?) programs are intended to help children with behavioral problems, like substance abuse. Miller stressed that many of these programs provide safe, valuable services to children and their families. But he said that stronger legislation was clearly necessary to ensure the safety of all children in such programs ? and particularly in programs overseas, where organizations have moved their facilities to avoid existing U.S. laws.
?Parents are sending their children to these programs because of a promise that they will help resolve difficult behavioral issues, like substance abuse,? said Miller. ?But the way kids have been treated at some of these facilities would make any parent shudder.?

April is National Child Abuse Prevention Month.
 
http://www.nospank.net/g-miller.htm (http://www.nospank.net/g-miller.htm)

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Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: leleNtom on June 16, 2005, 02:16:00 PM
i no i cant vote.. i wanted to know what it was for... i wouldnt sign it now after reading it. but its helps. being 17 dont mean shit,  im involved and id like to know whats going on in the world.

And now the liberals want to stop President Reagan from selling chemical warfare agents and military equipment to Saddam Hussein and why? Because Saddam 'allegedly' gassed a few Kurds in his own country. Mark my words. All of this talk of Saddam Hussein being a 'war criminal' or 'committing crimes against humanity' is the same old thing. LIBERAL HATE SPEECH! and speaking of poison gas... I SAY WE ROUND UP ALL THE DRUG ADDICTS AND GAS THEM TOO!
 
--Rush Limbaugh, November 3, 1988

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: OverLordd on June 16, 2005, 02:20:00 PM
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damnt... quit calling me a guy or son or whatever. im a girl... hahaha! ok? hehe


wow, ok... sorry, I'll remember your a girl, calm down.

In God's wildness lies the hope of the world x the great fresh unblighted, unredeemed wilderness. The galling harness of civilization drops off, and wounds heal ere we are aware.
-- John Muir

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
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I'm working on getting a petition up


I think she was talking about signing the petition, not the bill. Only the president gets to sign those.   :razz:
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: 001010 on June 16, 2005, 02:51:00 PM
True. :smile:

If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be -- a Christian.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2005, 03:27:00 PM
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On 2005-06-16 11:20:00, OverLordd wrote:

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damnt... quit calling me a guy or son or whatever. im a girl... hahaha! ok? hehe



wow, ok... sorry, I'll remember your a girl, calm down.

In God's wildness lies the hope of the world x the great fresh unblighted, unredeemed wilderness. The galling harness of civilization drops off, and wounds heal ere we are aware.
-- John Muir

"



 I am calm.
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: leleNtom on June 16, 2005, 03:31:00 PM
damn i forgot to sign in!!! its me again overllord .. u mind me asking this ? how old are you?

May your days be joyously challenging and your words artfully true.
--Ginger Warbis

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: OverLordd on June 16, 2005, 03:49:00 PM
closed
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
lauren? did she go to csa.... do i know u? im confused...where do u live?
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: OverLordd on June 16, 2005, 03:53:00 PM
closed
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2005, 03:55:00 PM
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On 2005-06-16 12:53:00, OverLordd wrote:

"Ok, I live in Georgia. I did not go to CSA, but my friend, Lauren did, she left earlly January of this year, do you remember her? She was 18, alittle italian girl. Lauren lived in Georgia as well.

Suppose you were an idiot.  And suppose you were a member of Congress.  But I repeat myself.
Mark Twain

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 bad memory... usaully its good. um last name? do u know what family... was she 18 when she left?
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: OverLordd on June 16, 2005, 03:58:00 PM
closed
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2005, 03:59:00 PM
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On 2005-06-16 12:58:00, OverLordd wrote:

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bad memory... usaully its good. um last name? do u know what family... was she 18 when she left?



what do you mean bad memory? Lauren DeBrock, she was 18 when she left, she stayed alittle to finish the hell of a program or her parents would not take her back. She is from the Greene family (Thats her family name at home... I dont really know what you mean if you say family from CSA)

If TCs were interested in treating substance abuse, half the time they'd tell mom "Sorry ma'am, we can't help him. He's not an addict, he's just an asshole.
--GregFL

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 i sent you a private message.. yah i remember we were  really close..  do you talk to her?
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: leleNtom on June 16, 2005, 03:59:00 PM
ask her if she remeber leah s

The drug war places Leo in a round room and instructs him to piss in a corner.
--Antigen

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: OverLordd on June 16, 2005, 04:02:00 PM
I will call her, she is at work right now, please tell me about her while she was there, everything you can remember.

Who would believe that a democratic government would pursue for eight decades a failed policy that produced tens of millions of victims and trillions of dollars of illicit profits for drug dealers, cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars, increased crime and destroyed inner cities, fostered widespread corruption and violations of human rights - and all with no success in achieving the stated and unattainable objective of a drug free America?


--Milton Friedman,  winner of 1976 Nobel Memorial Prize for economic science

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: leleNtom on June 16, 2005, 04:08:00 PM
are you too dating?

um well she will hate me for this... but alot of people  thought she was wierd... they didnt laugh at her jokes. i liked her though. she alwasy made me laaugh. strong passion for drama and singing. she liked this boy julian while she was there, and said she had  this hot boyfrend back at home. um she took a long time to make level four, but i think she got it on her 18th birthday. she was always there for me, she gave me a name called Ava, her name was Magdalena, were not satanic, but those are our witch names or something.  We got along. I miss her. can you send me a private message of her number

I turned to speak to God, About the world's despair; But to make bad matters worse, I found God wasn't there.
--Robert Frost, American poet

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: OverLordd on June 16, 2005, 04:11:00 PM
closed
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: leleNtom on June 16, 2005, 04:13:00 PM
man i cant remember ......she was in a play

I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religion than it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
--Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: OverLordd on June 16, 2005, 04:18:00 PM
I sent you a private message with her numbers, please respond!!!

I do not believe in the immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it.
--Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: leleNtom on June 16, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
im bac but like i said.. i gotta run before i get in truble. i promise i will talk to later . whats ur name now that u no mine

I believe that human beings arrive on this Earth wanting to know absolutely everything, and the best thing we can do as parents is to get out of the way -- just be there to let them know what opportunities are there
-- Dorothy Werner, media liaison for the National Homeschool Association

Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2005, 04:32:00 PM
The Coalition Against Institutionalized Child Abuse (CAICA - http://www.caica.org (http://www.caica.org)) are working directly with Senator Miller's office and have made suggestions on their website under "legislation".
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2005, 11:34:00 PM
i dont like the caica woman tho  
ive heard some stuff about her from SCL students, seems kind of over eager, too eager and heard interupts alot and is kind of nutty just in general.  shrug, just my thoughts.

anyway, anyone here of that CEDU documentary?
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2005, 11:42:00 PM
be forwarned, most of these organizations that claim to work to protect kids are run by pretty incompetent people, so called whistle blowers that don't move forward or do make progress, but are not the skilled nor very smart, so careful where info you get comes from, recheck the sources.

Heard the same about the woman Isabelle.  heard she  
went against CPS in some state supposedly trying to protect kids and pretty much blew their entire investigation.  she tried to be this knight in shingin armor but instead fucked everything up, read flags everywhere fer sure.  But they do have senators, probably they dont know, theyre just a name far as i can tell.  maybe just the lady who runs it is a little loopy and the others who work with her are legit. so sad, just like all the others!
http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancip ... basted.htm (http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancipation/stories/States_oversight_of_school_lambasted.htm)
Title: federal bill and it's supporters
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2005, 01:18:00 AM
please support

bill to end institutionalized child abuse

http://www.petitiononline.com/hr1738/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/hr1738/petition.html)