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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: webdiva on March 10, 2011, 11:00:34 PM

Title: Fix My Kid - Trailer
Post by: webdiva on March 10, 2011, 11:00:34 PM
Fix My Kid Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3R4CpyP5CA#ws)
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Inculcated on March 11, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
That was an intense one minute and forty-five seconds of viewing. I can imagine that it took a lot from those who took part in the project to make it. I admire all of you who collaborated on the documentary and dared to really go back to that dark place in order to bring the twisted legacy of it to light.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: webdiva on March 11, 2011, 10:07:20 AM
Quote from: "Inculcated"
That was an intense one minute and forty-five seconds of viewing. I can imagine that it took a lot from those who took part in the project to make it. I admire all of you who collaborated on the documentary and dared to really go back to that dark place in order to bring the twisted legacy of it to light.

Yep it sure did. Especially the re-enactments that we recently filmed. A lot of healing going on as well though!
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Samara on March 11, 2011, 10:15:59 AM
One of the possible potential effects I hope this film will have is giving program parents a more graphic understanding of what occurred at Straight and similar entities. Not to blame parents, but to give them an opportunity to heal relationships with their children after years of invalidation, by simply saying "I get it now. I am deeply sorry you went through this experience." Invalidation is one of the most painful things one can face post-program.  What are some thoughts on this?  Will anyone be sharing this film with their families in hopes of forging a greater understanding? Has anyone's family already started the revelation process?
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Froderik on March 11, 2011, 10:44:07 AM
I know I will be doing that sometime (I admit part of it would be wanting them to see the movie I co-produced.) I've kind of already been there with them, though..so i will be in no rush to do this. But I can certainly see how people newer to the whole deal would be wanting their families to see it; it could prove very helpful, of course! As for me, my mom now believes that all drugs should be legalized; this in and of itself is almost enough for me (for without the Drug War, there could have been no Straight Inc to begin with).
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Samara on March 11, 2011, 11:13:09 AM
It will be great for the family to see the finished product; what is available now is thought provoking! Richard has a great manner about him. The group dynamic is unsettling.  

What I really want though is for folks to understand that addict or regular kid, this is NOT humane, acceptable, or therapeutic. Period. I want the validation.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Froderik on March 11, 2011, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: "Samara"
this is NOT humane, acceptable, or therapeutic [for anyone at all]. Period. I want the validation.

This always should have been face-slappingly obvious, but denial is a powerful thing.
(They want to hang on to what the program told them.)

Maybe this film will serve to rub people's noses in how bad it was?
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Samara on March 11, 2011, 11:50:44 AM
It just seems that having the visual representation and articulate discussion in a legitimized docu-setting might reach "believers" more readily. Before, it is too easy to shrug off "fucked up" kids.  They brought into the criminalization of youths, and thus their undeservability of having a voice.  This movie combined with the very real and obvious 20 year after effects should be somewhat convincing.

I think one of the freaky things still is how it operated out in the open. I mean it was sort of hidden in plain view, whereas a program like CEDU was in a remote setting. Even our groups were small. When we had raps, students were broken into randomized 10-15 kids and sequestered in different rooms for hours (good luck if you needed a rest room), and the overriding mandate is nothing said here leaves here. It was all secrecy shrouded in secrecy.  Parents were given the dog and pony show maybe every 3 or 4 months and they did not stay on campus.

My understanding is that Straight parents were more available but that the open family meetings were watered down - so they didn't understand that the Straight only meetings were as out of control and freaky as they were? Yes/No?  I'm sorry, but motivating is  a freak show. It reminds me of populaces living under tyranny that are required to show devotion to a regime with extreme gesticulations of undying submission.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Froderik on March 11, 2011, 12:23:22 PM
I guess enough people haven't killed themselves? I suppose this movie had to me made not only to document American history, but to serve as a vehicle for understanding. Trust (provided there is that), and adequate verbal description can go some measure to "legitimize," but it is easier to pop in a dvd!

Yes, it was practically under people's noses...wtf?
I guess political endorsement goes a long way with those who believe they are being led (and then are led).

"Confidentiality" went a long way to cover their asses... didn't CEDU try to shut the kids up with something like that?
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Samara on March 11, 2011, 12:51:32 PM
"Confidentiality" was the hammer to enforce the therapeutic abuses. Therapeutic doesn't even belong in the equation. Therapeutic was a balls out blatant bullshit lie.

I agree with the DVD facilitation opportunity. And when your folks watch that film, is there any way they can NOT see that nut hole for what it is? I mean how do you invalidate any part of that program after watching this?
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Froderik on March 11, 2011, 01:00:53 PM
And this was just the trailer...
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: none-ya on March 11, 2011, 01:09:54 PM
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samara said:
"motivating is a freak show"

The motivating eveolved  from the rapid finger snap. Every kid did it in the seed. But it served the same purpose. To get called on in group.Funny thing though,it was the kids thatdidn't do it were called on more,'cause they looked lazy.I guess straight didn' like all the noise. Any seedlings out there still know how to do the snap?
Title: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary
Post by: Froderik on March 13, 2011, 03:40:53 PM
The link to the facebook page about the movie, please send to everyone and post everywhere:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Surviving ... 5029546219 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Surviving-Straight-Inc-the-Movie/138515029546219)

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: seamus on March 13, 2011, 03:53:28 PM
done.  I keep thinking about just how fucking nuts the whole thing was. And how clueless the staff/administators/founders are as to the residual effects,or collateral damage might be. and just how nobody wants to admit this REALLY DID HAPPEN.
 Why is it that across the fuckin globe people get fucked hard just for being who they are?
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: seamus on March 13, 2011, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: "none-ya"
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samara said:
"motivating is a freak show"

The motivating eveolved  from the rapid finger snap. Every kid did it in the seed. But it served the same purpose. To get called on in group.Funny thing though,it was the kids thatdidn't do it were called on more,'cause they looked lazy.I guess straight didn' like all the noise. Any seedlings out there still know how to do the snap?
 I think the "snap" you refer to is done by kind of shaking your hand while letting your index finger go limp,no?
we did that shit in str8 too,least back in my time........Woof? 84D.J. ?    yall remember?
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: none-ya on March 13, 2011, 04:16:02 PM
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seamus said
"I think the "snap" you refer to is done by kind of shaking your hand while letting your index finger go limp,no?
we did that shit in str8 too,least back in my time........Woof? 84D.J. ? yall remember?"

That's it. Straight from the seed. (I know,bad pun)
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: webdiva on April 04, 2011, 08:47:19 PM
New clips: http://http://www.survivingstraightincthemovie.com/clips.cfm
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Che Gookin on May 24, 2011, 09:01:32 AM
Jesus.. some of those still shots put chills down my spine.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Geraldine on June 28, 2011, 01:44:47 AM
Hello.  I am really looking forward to seeing the film, and mentioning it wherever I can.  When might it be in cinemas?  I heard of it on stinkin-thinkin, a site that muckrakes the 12 Step Industry.  
http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/06/24/s ... ment-65850 (http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/06/24/slate-on-surviving-straight-inc/comment-page-1/#comment-65850)
I have some questions I would like to ask about Straight.  Where should I go to do that, on this site?

On that link, someone is suggesting that because Straight is operating in Australia now.
'Straight, Inc had changed their name and migrated to Australia around 1989, crossing International borders making it an International Abuse and covered by the UN. What would be needed is the Survivors of Straight to document members of that organization who may have done this. There is no statute of limitations for crimes against humanity and it would be an International problem.'

Good luck with the film.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Geraldine on June 28, 2011, 02:25:43 AM
I'll just ask my questions here where they might be read.  
How long did it take to get from 'phase' to 'phase'?
What is 'motivating?'
Can you help me track down any councilors who migrated to Australia around 1989 that worked for Straight, Inc. The International community wants to punish them and have already tried. Any leads?  
I have read the name Don a few times.  Who was Don?  He must have been a staff member.
Thank you people!
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Post by: Judge Joe Brown on June 28, 2011, 06:34:16 AM
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Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Samara on June 28, 2011, 10:47:51 AM
Control.  That's what it is about.  If you can force people - just through mind control - to rabidly, bizarrely and uncomfortably move their body to prove that they are in the game -even if just to avoid public shaming- you are in control of them.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: dragonfly on June 28, 2011, 11:10:11 AM
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: T-Rex on September 18, 2011, 11:12:23 AM
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Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Anne Bonney on February 09, 2012, 04:55:53 AM
Why can't I see the trailer anymore?
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: N.O.S.O.B. on February 09, 2012, 07:59:08 AM
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Anne Bonney on February 09, 2012, 08:24:05 AM
For some reason there's a slash thru the play button & it won't play. Maybe it's the iPad. I'll try it at work. Thanks.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 09:29:22 AM
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Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Anne Bonney on February 09, 2012, 10:53:08 AM
Yeah, I can see it here at work.  Don't know what happened on the iPad.  Hmmm, I'll have to find out.  That trailer gives me the willies.  I don't think I could have handled being there for the re-enactments.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
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Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: lonewolf on May 01, 2012, 11:44:55 PM
Quote from: "seamus"
Quote from: "none-ya"
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samara said:
"motivating is a freak show"

The motivating eveolved  from the rapid finger snap. Every kid did it in the seed. But it served the same purpose. To get called on in group.Funny thing though,it was the kids thatdidn't do it were called on more,'cause they looked lazy.I guess straight didn' like all the noise. Any seedlings out there still know how to do the snap?
 I think the "snap" you refer to is done by kind of shaking your hand while letting your index finger go limp,no?
we did that shit in str8 too,least back in my time........Woof? 84D.J. ?    yall remember?
I remember snapping like you talk about....it was normal thing to do......
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Antigen on May 02, 2012, 06:10:05 PM
I remember it and when they made a rule against it. Maybe mid `82 or so, Sarasota.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Tampa survivor on June 18, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
First time I have seen that.
you could kind of say I have been out of the survivor loop for a bit...like 8 years...
Regret it.
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: webdiva on July 04, 2013, 11:17:03 AM
Quote from: "Tampa survivor"
First time I have seen that.
you could kind of say I have been out of the survivor loop for a bit...like 8 years...
Regret it.

Seen what? the trailer? There's a new one coming very soon!
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Tampa survivor on July 05, 2013, 06:53:55 AM
Yeah, I didn't know about Straightling either...just got a copy of that too but my daughter is reading it first and we talk about it as she goes.
Trailer was shocking just to SEE it again.  
Eww
We shall see new trailer here soon?  Interesting
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: none-ya on July 05, 2013, 08:45:31 AM
Trailer? How about the movie? It's been what,3 years now? Isn't there footage from Anne Bonney's  boat?" Seems like you guys blew your budget on the 50 blue chairs. And didn't St. Pete Straight have about 400 kids?
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: Tampa survivor on July 28, 2013, 01:00:55 PM
LOL, I have no idea what it costs to do a movie, but it probably more than I make in a year...or a life...
Still made me laugh.
Where the fuck do ya order interlocking blue chairs?
Title: Re: Surviving Straight Inc. the Documentary - Trailer
Post by: webdiva on July 30, 2013, 09:04:52 AM
The new website is
http://http://www.fixmykidthemovie.com

The updated trailer is on the site so please check it out.