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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: toddbrown on March 27, 2004, 03:32:00 AM
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So, it seems as if most of us dallas folks are/were troublemakers! gotta love it.
So people treated me shitty while I was there.
So I had to look at naked dudes every night.
So I really had to make dudes twice my size lift there sack to make sure they werent hiding weapons of mass destruction.
So we were all miserable.
So my life got 10 times worse the moment I walked out the door.
So I became a heroin addict and spent the better Part of my twenties chasing the perfect speedball.
So I spent time in the state pen.
So I got twenty eight felonies
So I cant count how many misdemeanors.
I got over it
My life is pretty cool, I got a hot lil wife, a cutey patuty little baby boy
I'm off parole
I help other poor shlubs stay sober
I skate pools three times a week, I am addicted to caffiene, and I think that people are all worthy of forgivness,
I think that this post of mine is retarded
I think I am retarded
I want to hook up w/ dallas folks
just cus
seems that all of the people on this board from dallas were in before me though!
so dallas people give me a holler
I was in from late 88-early 90 Any one here from that era???
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hey...
i was in dallas straight for a short time in 1991...welcome to the board from hell
peace
lisa hartman :wave:
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Hmmm Lisa Hartman huh?
who do you remember?
Ceasar , Heath, Sean Garret and his big ol sister
uuumm, lesse here, how about chris and jeff upshaw?
or ty fellars or lael collop( I really would like to get in touch with her) um chris calhoun, or jason blanton, any of these names ring a bell?
Mike sherman, Jay malone, Rene Fuchs, well anyway you were in right after I left so we probably know alot of the same folks lets talk and see who we know mkay. peace out
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oooooops that last anon post was me
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I think Mike Sherman is around. Doesn't he help run S.A.F.E.T.Y. NET?
http://safetyintl.org (http://safetyintl.org)
Don
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hey...yes ceasar was on staff, shae, heath, and others...jason blanton and i have been friends for many, many years, and he commenced shortly after i got there...i knew rene..bearly...my email is on prof... i have a few other names to toss around....sounds like we know alot of the same people ::rocker::
lisa
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not that anyone gives a shit what I think
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Lisa...was your last name different while you were there? I cant place your name, and it seems we were in at the same time...I remember Jason Blanton, and when he commenced.
Todd....hows the bebe? Long time no talk. I been around...mostly chatting with those of us who are a little more hardcore. I think I have had enough of all that though. Hows the new J-O-B?
You know I have to have a small shudder and a poo poo thumbs down for the whole Lael thing.....but hey....getcha sum, cowboy. :silly:
As for the names...I remember them all. Was thinking of a new one yesterday...Laura Butterworth. About 3 feet tall? Wanted a big black dually truck when she got out? Misbehaved for most all of my program....think she was still there after I hauled ass. Christy Rye, Linda Bitney, Dari Cheetham, Meredith Ahlers, Stephanie Lundberg, Lori Scott.....I bet I could still name a hundred names from that place.....[ This Message was edited by: Carmel on 2004-03-28 20:24 ]
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Carmel its good to here from you..er kinda.
so I want to talk to Lael, forgive me, I had some preteen wonderlust thing going for her I cant help it.
Any way the new job is all consuming, and I gotta pay my dues, so lots of overtime, but it just makes me appreciate the time I get to spend with the wife and bebe, hey I'll email you some pics of my boy soon, email me your primary email cus I cant remember if its the "goldfish one" aka gesepe aka greasepipe(did i drag that out to far? or the babalu@ snotmail, so holler
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What's coming through is alive
What's holding up is a mirror.
But what's singing songs is a snake
Looking to turn this piss to wine.
They're both totally void of hate,
But killing me just the same.
The snake behind me hisses
What my damage could have been.
My blood before me begs me
Open up my heart again.
And I feel this coming over like a storm again.
Considerately.
Venomous voice, tempts me,
Drains me, bleeds me,
Leaves me cracked and empty.
Drags me down like some sweet gravity.
The snake behind me hisses
What my damage could have been.
My blood before me begs me
Open up my heart again.
And I feel this coming over like a storm again.
I am too connected to you to
Slip away, to fade away.
Days away I still feel you
Touching me, changing me,
And considerately killing me.
Without the skin,
Beneath the storm,
Under these tears
The walls came down.
And the snake is drowned and
As I look in his eyes,
My fear begins to fade
Recalling all of those times.
I could have cried then.
I should have cried then.
And as the walls come down and
As I look in your eyes
My fear begins to fade
Recalling all of the times
I have died
and will die.
It's all right.
I don't mind.
I am too connected to you to
Slip away, to fade away.
Days away I still feel you
Touching me, changing me,
And considerately killing me.
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no, i have been lisa hartman for all my life...i was only in straight from march,91'-june or july 91'...i walked a few months after i got there
lisa :wave: [ This Message was edited by: groovy1634 on 2004-03-29 22:44 ]
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Ah...that makes sense....I was there from March of 90 to about November of 90 before I ran.....so you got there not too long after....
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that's cool...nice to meet ya anyways...we know some og the same people though
peace
lisa ::rocker::
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I was in straight in dallas (los colinas i believe) from feb. 1989 to July, when i ran away. This is the first time that I've ever thought about searching for anything about straight online, and i am so happy to find stuff on the web about it. It was really a horrifying experience for me, even more so since I had never done drugs beforehand. I did them after though. I was convinced I was a drug addict by the time I ran away, I wasn even starting to remember doing them (???), but somewhere in my brain I knew I wanted out of there at the same time. I remember I dreamt about being locked back up in there every single night for the first six months afterwards, and then periodically for years later. Interested in talking with people who were there aroung the same time. Jane[ This Message was edited by: janefromdallas on 2004-04-02 20:19 ][ This Message was edited by: janefromdallas on 2004-04-02 20:22 ][ This Message was edited by: janefromdallas on 2004-04-16 10:28 ]
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Who are you carmel? I thought I knew but now I am confused by your dates.
Jane from Dallas, How about more info? I was in straight Dallas, in the Richardson Building. Went in in Oct. of 87' left Nov. 89'. Sandy Strawn was on Sr. Staff w/ Jeff Spearman, Sherri & Cameron Riley were on Exec. Staff. LOOOOOOOOOONG Time Ago. I married a straight guy and have been married for 8 1/2 years. Made it to 5th phase left came back and then walked. Mr. Dorghtery called me 2 weeks later begging me to come back in to a 1 week 5th phase phase review and I would be back on the side of group. I said NO THANKS :wave: BYE BYE.....
That was about a month after they moved to the new building in Irving.
Valorie Townley here! (formerly HOLT)
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On 2004-04-02 19:36:00, janefromdallas wrote:
"I was in straight in dallas (los colinas i believe) from feb. 1989 to July, when i ran away. This is the first time that I've ever thought about searching for anything about straight online, and i am so happy to find stuff on the web about it. It was really a horrifying experience for me, even more so since I had never done drugs beforehand. I did them after though. I was convinced I was a drug addict by the time I ran away, I wasn even starting to remember doing them (???), but somewhere in my brain I knew I wanted out of there at the same time. I remember I dreamt about being locked back up in there every single night (not kidding) for the first six months afterwards, and then periodically for years later. Interested in talking with people who were there aroung the same time. Jane[ This Message was edited by: janefromdallas on 2004-04-02 20:19 ][ This Message was edited by: janefromdallas on 2004-04-02 20:22 ]"
Hey Jane, I think you were my newcomer for awhile. I'm Kelly Clark. Was there 08/08/1988 to late May 1989. I walked after I turned 18.
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Valorie,
well I was only in the irving location, Feb. 1989 for 5 months. I didn't realize they had moved from another location. While I was there, I think I remember a Sherri, (a petite girl with a blondish bob??), who was dating one of the guys also on staff, maybe he was Cameron, sort of a country looking guy. I remember another staff person named Stephanie, maybe stephanie parks. She was my sponser for a couple of months after I ran away. Some guy named brad, but he wasnt there until maybe may or so. I have more trouble remember the girls' names than the staff people though. Im not sure if there was a valorie there, it doesn't ring a bell.
Jane
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Kelly,
yes, I think you were my first, what were they called, I think I was given to you when I first came in. I remember you being one of the nicer people to me and I remember you disappearing. I think you must have left around march or april? Is that what you said? Strange to get in touch with you after all this time.
jane
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"Oldcomer"
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On 2004-04-03 13:05:00, janefromdallas wrote:
"Valorie,
well I was only in the irving location, Feb. 1989 for 5 months. I didn't realize they had moved from another location. While I was there, I think I remember a Sherri, (a petite girl with a blondish bob??), who was dating one of the guys also on staff, maybe he was Cameron, sort of a country looking guy. I remember another staff person named Stephanie, maybe stephanie parks. She was my sponser for a couple of months after I ran away. Some guy named brad, but he wasnt there until maybe may or so. I have more trouble remember the girls' names than the staff people though. Im not sure if there was a valorie there, it doesn't ring a bell.
Jane"
You're thinking of Shelly Beavers... She was very petite with short bob hair cut. And she was dating Garrett Coy at the time, (very cute and nice guy). I don't know what other staff member you could be talking about, a Stephanie.... can't remember. So very long ago. And I'm pretty sure that Valorie was gone by the time you got there. She was one of my first oldcomers, may have even done my intake, I don't remember now.
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On 2004-04-03 13:11:00, janefromdallas wrote:
"Kelly,
yes, I think you were my first, what were they called, I think I was given to you when I first came in. I remember you being one of the nicer people to me and I remember you disappearing. I think you must have left around march or april? Is that what you said? Strange to get in touch with you after all this time.
jane"
I knew it! Didn't your mom get a host home open before you made 2nd phase??? I somehow seem to remember staying at an apartment for a very short time... because the hostmom's daughter made 2nd phase, so I was moved somewhere else. My mom lived too far away and so we never had a hosthome. I got moved around to so many different places, everything tends to blend now.
Oh, and thanks for remembering that I was nice. I tried really hard to be fair to my newcomers. It's good to know that I was remembered in a positive way.
Glad to hear from you! :wave:
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Straight was a positive experience for many people. :smile:
Sign up for the all-new, improved, all ages Straight, Inc. v2.0 today! :tup:
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I dont' remember when my mom got a hosthome, but she did and it was in an apt. somewhere off of 635. I went there after 2nd phase I remember. I never knew that you stayed there before me, I dont think we were really told who was staying where or anything like that. But yeah, I remember you pretty well. I remember I would get yelled at all the time for doing cocaine and inhaling liquid paper, which I had never done, and I think you were the only one that seemed open to the possibility that I wasn't lying. That meant a lot to me.
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Hey Kelly, I just wanted to tell you to email me if you want and we can talk more and catch up with each other. My email address is listed in my profile--Jane
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Crystal world with winter flowers
Turns my day to frozen hours
Lying snowblind in the sun
Will my ice age ever come?
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Hey everyone. I recognize quite a few names in this thread. My name is Patrick Carlow. Just wanted to say sorry to everyone I help slammed to the floor or shoved my fist in their back. Hope everyone is doing good and making the best of a post straight life. :smile:
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Hey Patrick, I remember you barely. I think you graduated maybe days or weeks after I came in. Dont recall exctly if you did graduate, but I think you did. Anway, you were out close to when I came in. If I am not mistaken, you were a trainee too. Dunno...just correct me if I am wrong!
Welcome to the board! You will find we know alot of the same people. How are you feeling about Straight these days then?
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Yep, I was a trainee. After I commenced I got my 2 week vacation and went back home to Huntsville were I hung out with my two best friends. I was supposed to come back and be a Jr Staff Member. I really didn't want to come back but I forced myself. I remember after getting back staying up all night trying to decide what to do. By morning I had packed my bags and drove straight back to Huntsville. I'm pretty glad now I made that decision.
I don't think about Straight much anymore but sometimes I find myself practicing sitting up straight with my hands on my knees and back off the chair. (weird huh?) After reading over this message board I think I've decided I don't give Straight enough credit for being as screwed up as I am in some ways. Oh well, it's funny the things you remember.
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OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patrick, how are you???? Good to see you on the board.
Hope that you and your family are doing well.
Hugs,
Kelly[ This Message was edited by: taureana on 2004-04-17 12:03 ]
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Patrick Carlow... You were my oldcomer along with DonnyRoach, and the last time I saw you was when Mike Gattis and I were doing market research...er I mean working at the taco bell on beltline in Irving, I seem to remember you falling from grace in some way shape or form? any way my name is Todd Brown. Mabe you remember mabe not.
anyway hows shit in your neck of the woods?
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On 2004-04-16 10:45:00, taureana wrote:
"OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol, hi kelly
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Hey Todd, of course I remember you. You had to bring up Donnie Roach didn't you? lol
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Why the hell am I the french fry guy? lol
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Hello Dallas people! :wave:
I was in the Straight program in 1982, in St. Pete, FL and in Springfield, VA.
(For what now seems like an eternity), I've been writing a book about my (and our) experiences in the program. I have only a smattering of Texas- program stories and I can always use more!
I pledge anonymity to all who speak with me about their experiences in the program. And I'm interested in your experience - whether you think it was a delightful place or sheer torture.
If you are interested: [email protected]
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On 2004-04-17 06:52:00, patcar wrote:
"Why the hell am I the french fry guy? lol
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That is funny. The system defaults you to that character. If you look on the left side of the screen, you have a link to your profile, click on that link. At the bottom of your profile preferences is the word avatar. That is the picture that shows up by your name. Click on the words "Show Avatar", and you can pick a picture that better suits you.
Send me a private message with your email address, and I'll give you a link to pictures that I have on yahoo. There's two of you, and a bunch of the kids and me.
Peace,
Kelly
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On 2004-04-17 06:50:00, patcar wrote:
"You had to bring up Donnie Roach didn't you? lol
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Whatever happened to him by the way??? :wstupid:
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<-- There, thats much better! :wstupid: "
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You know as much as I do. Would you believe I sold his TV in a garage sale only 2 years ago? I can't believe that thing lasted so long. Do you remember that damn thing? :lol:
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On 2004-04-17 14:53:00, patcar wrote:
Would you believe I sold his TV in a garage sale only 2 years ago? I can't believe that thing lasted so long. Do you remember that damn thing? :nworthy:
Ha ha ha ha, never thought I'd ever say those words!!!!!!!!!
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LOL Holy Crap that was funny. No, that was the one with the brown console that I dragged downstairs from that second story hole we lived in with no electricity, then took to the new hole we lived in at Fair Oaks.
I pawned my Stereo to get you out of jail!
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What was funny????? What I said or getting me out of jail?
'Cause I didn't think that getting me out of jail was all that funny. :scared:
I was scared shitless!!!! Was never so glad to see someone in my whole life.
Of course, I guess it is kinda funny now. But I learned my lesson, and never went back.
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No, what you had just posted was funny. It cracked me up when I read it. Jail was bad!
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Jail was a hell of alot better than Straight
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todd, i was in richardson from 1/87-3/88...i'm trying to remember you, help me, i've slept since then (it's been so long since you posted, i don't even know if you'll see this.)
angie nations[ This Message was edited by: angienations on 2004-12-20 16:26 ]
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Hello Patrick Carlow, This is Jim Horn, sorry for leaving you at school that day. I hope you got home okay. I had to get out of there. Good to see that you are on this site......
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Yo dude, remember when that Will guy punched you in the nose...that shit was funny. Sorry to hear your life has been so screwed up, sounds like you have a handle now...good. Man, remeber that guy Tyler, wasn't he in there for like 5 years.....heard from him? Peace
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On 2004-12-30 19:21:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"Yo dude, remember when that Will guy punched you in the nose...that shit was funny. Sorry to hear your life has been so screwed up, sounds like you have a handle now...good. Man, remeber that guy Tyler, wasn't he in there for like 5 years.....heard from him? Peace"
Pat Carlow and I hung out with Tyler on New Year's Eve 1991. Pat and I were still practicing sobriety then, and Tyler said he was, but we had a strange feeling that he wasn't. After that Tyler was in a horrible car wreck in Houston, the driver of the car died. Me & Patrick went to see him in the hospital in Houston. He was on a feeding tube at the time. When they found him at the wreck, both his legs were busted up and over his shoulders. The car was a two seater Miata or something like that. He had been life-flighted to the hospital. When he got discharged from the hospital, he was transferred to a rehabilitation hospital where he practically had to re-learn to walk.
I saw him again with Patrick in like November or December of 1991, we all tripped acid one night together. I never saw him again after that. I wish I knew what happened to him. Anyone know anything more recent??
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You tripped acid with those guys? :skull: :skull: :skull:
What is your name Mr. Taureana? My name is Jim Horn.
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Kicking methadone ...fucking sucks hardest thing ever...Oh well Ill live...or perhaps not :lol:
Whatever... fuck the world.
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On 2004-12-31 12:23:00, taureana wrote:
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On 2004-12-30 19:21:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"Yo dude, remember when that Will guy punched you in the nose...that shit was funny. Sorry to hear your life has been so screwed up, sounds like you have a handle now...good. Man, remeber that guy Tyler, wasn't he in there for like 5 years.....heard from him? Peace"
XXXXXXXXXX and I hung out with Tyler on New Year's Eve 1991. Pat and I were still practicing sobriety then, and TXXXr said he was, but we had a strange feeling that he wasn't. After that TXXX was in a horrible car wreck in Houston, the driver of the car died. Me & XXXXX went to see him in the hospital in Houston. He was on a feeding tube at the time. When they found him at the wreck, both his legs were busted up and over his shoulders. The car was a two seater Miata or something like that. He had been life-flighted to the hospital. When he got discharged from the hospital, he was transferred to a rehabilitation hospital where he practically had to re-learn to walk.
I saw him again with XXXXX in like November or December of 1991, we all tripped acid one night together. I never saw him again after that. I wish I knew what happened to him. Anyone know anything more recent??"
Do you have zero respect for these peoples' privacy, or do you just not know any better? :roll:
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Complaint noted, however, there are so very many people with the same names out there. Do a search on your name and see what comes up. There are all sorts of things.
Unless someone were looking in particular for this kind of information, which they would have already validated via another source in order to even have such an intent, well....see where I am going with this?
Something tells me that anyone who reads about anyone elses history via the internet, would already have a working knowledge of the person and what they had done/said to begin with if they were to match the Fornit's information to the individual. Make sense? They would have to be people who were in Straight, more or less, not to mention in the program at the same time....and, well, to be honest....nothings too shocking to us phasers when it comes to jacking off and playing grabass in the program.
I can look up my husbands name in Google and find everything from war criminals to hockey scores with his name attached to it.
Besides all that, if someone made sexually indecent comments and gestures to me in the program, it would be my personal opinion that their anonymity could take a flying leap. Screw tackiness. Was'nt their behaviour vastly more tacky and inappropriate? Yeesh!
I was born a heretic. I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
--Susan B. Anthony, U.S. reformer and suffragist
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Todd, have you stopped checking the site? :em:
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Does anyone remember Ceaser? What happened to that guy. His Dad was my escourt to Straight from Midland....One guy who I had some respect for was Ron Bowden...really nice guy...the only 5th phaser who didn't run his fist down my back just because I sloutch (sp)...
Anyway, I'm suprised at the number of folks from 88-91 on this board. All we use to hear is how 'hardcore' (wait - is that druggie slang?) Richardson building was....then I met this girl named Sessy who was in there after me and she said all they told her was how 'hardcore' 88-90 was...funny.
D
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I became the cheif of police.
I escort druggies to the new and improved all ages Straight V2.0
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I guess that figures.
Chief of Police where?
D
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Chief of Police. How ridiculous, Caesar, shame on you! :wstupid: :wstupid: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![ This Message was edited by: jraypdxxx on 2005-01-05 16:14 ]
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Methinks the CV that posts here isnt really CesareV.
Probably a Dallas troll for sure tho."The Program" and two years will get you a vastly improved kid in *EXACTLY* the same way that "The Program" and four bucks will get you a cup of espresso at Starbucks.
Timoclea
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It would be ironic if Ceaser really was a man of the law. I got nothing against CV....his Dad did handcuff me and escort me to Straight. I thought I was under arrest, he showed me his badge and the rest was a blur...turned out I had just been fooled....though he was a cop he had nothing to do with the charges against me. The charges that were against me were dropped by the judge because my folks had followed a recomendation by the judge to put me in a drug rehab program....I remember feeling like a complete fool at my intake when I found that out. But I felt better when I started hearing the, "I thought we were going out for ice cream" stories...no matter the road...the outcome just sucked.
D
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As I understand it, yes, he is actually a cop.
Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author
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When were you in the joint? (straight?) :sad: :sad:
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Complaint noted, however, there are so very many people with the same names out there. Do a search on your name and see what comes up. There are all sorts of things.
On the other hand, some peeps have more unique names and it would be easier to 'narrow it down' when it comes to them...
Unless someone were looking in particular for this kind of information, which they would have already validated via another source in order to even have such an intent, well....see where I am going with this?
Yeah, but in light of what I wrote above I don't think it's true..
I can look up my husbands name in Google and find everything from war criminals to hockey scores with his name attached to it.
Some names will yield much narrower search results.
Something tells me that anyone who reads about anyone elses history via the internet, would already have a working knowledge of the person and what they had done/said to begin with if they were to match the Fornit's information to the individual. Make sense?
No, not necessarily..
Besides all that, if someone made sexually indecent comments and gestures to me in the program, it would be my personal opinion that their anonymity could take a flying leap. Screw tackiness.
In this case I would agree 100%, call them out.
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On 2005-01-04 13:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-12-31 12:23:00, taureana wrote:
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On 2004-12-30 19:21:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"Yo dude, remember when that Will guy punched you in the nose...that shit was funny. Sorry to hear your life has been so screwed up, sounds like you have a handle now...good. Man, remeber that guy Tyler, wasn't he in there for like 5 years.....heard from him? Peace"
XXXXXXXXXX and I hung out with Tyler on New Year's Eve 1991. Pat and I were still practicing sobriety then, and TXXXr said he was, but we had a strange feeling that he wasn't. After that TXXX was in a horrible car wreck in Houston, the driver of the car died. Me & XXXXX went to see him in the hospital in Houston. He was on a feeding tube at the time. When they found him at the wreck, both his legs were busted up and over his shoulders. The car was a two seater Miata or something like that. He had been life-flighted to the hospital. When he got discharged from the hospital, he was transferred to a rehabilitation hospital where he practically had to re-learn to walk.
I saw him again with XXXXX in like November or December of 1991, we all tripped acid one night together. I never saw him again after that. I wish I knew what happened to him. Anyone know anything more recent??"
Do you have zero respect for these peoples' privacy, or do you just not know any better? :roll: "
Fuck their privacy...so I guess you can add me to the zero respect category.
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On 2005-01-04 22:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I guess that figures.
Chief of Police where?
D"
Salinas texas.... is it Selinas or Salina ? whatever
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On 2005-01-04 20:13:00, irvingbound wrote:
"Does anyone remember Ceaser? What happened to that guy. His Dad was my escourt to Straight from Midland....One guy who I had some respect for was Ron Bowden...really nice guy...the only 5th phaser who didn't run his fist down my back just because I sloutch (sp)...
Anyway, I'm suprised at the number of folks from 88-91 on this board. All we use to hear is how 'hardcore' (wait - is that druggie slang?) Richardson building was....then I met this girl named Sessy who was in there after me and she said all they told her was how 'hardcore' 88-90 was...funny.
D
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They changed alot of things in december of 1988 like no more motivating and shit like that
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I was there when they changed that (motivating), it's weird that it was hard to quit. As weird as motivating was, it served as a way to let out pent up aggression....thank god, for motivating :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:
...in a really sick, dark way!!!!
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Ya, they changed motivating when I was there too, in 1990.
Methinks they relapsed for a while. They also changed things like the word cop-out...to "eloped".
They changed belt-looping to walking arm in arm.
As I understood it, this was to meet with standards set by the investigators who had been around alot.
They also said clients were not allowed to help restrain other clients. Staff only. Unless of course 50 kids ran for the door at the same time and there wasnt enough staff in all of Dallas to restrain them. Which happened just before I ran, for several days.
I was interviewed by an investigator once, but staff threatened me ever so subtly that if I talked about how I was given a concussion without medical help....well, I would be sitting on front row. Funny, the investigator already knew about it from an ex-parent. She asked me if I wanted to press charges and I lied and said no. And that it didnt happen. After all, I had to go back and face group fueled by a conniving executive staff member. Fuck that!
There never was a good war or a bad peace.
--Benjamin Franklin, (1773)
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Hey Carmel, Mind if I ask your name? :???:
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I can't even imagine Straight without motivating or the belt loop walk...What drove me nuts is having to ask for everything...and if you looked at it while asking ...you were being manipulative. "Can I pick up my fork" "Can I speak out"....grrrr! I remember when they told me my parents had dropped off my clothes and when I saw them it was shirts from County Seat and Guess Jeans....I went from Mowhawks and boots to that!!! It was shock....Still I learned how to play a mean game of Spades in there...took a lot of prozac (I think thats what they were - never took them after STRAIGHT), and of course was worse when I got out then when I went in. Does anyone Justin Peticrew (think that was his last name)?
D
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Reading your post about the County Seat and the Guess jeans cracked me up, I actually laughed out loud.....that's so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were all stripped of any identity and looked like a bunch of goobers. I have this weird memory of you wearing some purple and pink button up that was three sizes tooo big for you. Please mom, just a pair of Levi's and a black T-shirt. The gifts from the parents were always a let down. Did they cut your hair in there? Mine looked horrible, kind of a bowl number. I wish I had pictures.
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Carmel is my name. I am Carmel Woods now, was Carmel Fales in the program.
Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.
--Julius Caesar
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Oh yea, that sounds famiiar....I had clothes that I couldn't have made cool if I tried....Once I had to wear some jeans that were high waters and they were called humility clothes by my old comer...all because I made a small shampoo mohawk in the shower with my hair....I was "holding on to my druggie past"....I needed humility...they'd follow that day up with having to say all the things I liked about myself in the mirror..."I'm a snazzy dresser" I should have mentioned. Yea, the clothes were horrible....Seems like I was always making lunches, cleaning the pee jug, and cleaning the kitchen when I was in there...all while wearing the latest STRAIGHT fashions or whatever your parents wished you had worn before you went in.....and they cut my hair when I got in down to nothing, because it was shaved on the sides.
I remember when they brough you back from copping out....you were pissed...
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One of my most vivid memories is sitting there staring at the ceiling, Imagining blue skies with the occasional cloud drifting by, it was all I could do to survive from day to day (mentally) thinking to myself....I'm never getting out of here and singing Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb to myself. Do you remember using carmex, lip balm?????????? :grin: :grin: :grin:
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I remember when I got to 2nd or 3rd phase and another upper phaser told me I could listen to music...he gave me a walkman with Kool Moe D on it....I didn't even listen to that crap before I went in...just another let down...much like those county seat shirts I was forced to wear...
D
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I like how this thread is going...just a couple of ppl talking..it sounds like a 'real' conversation..
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Did you clear that up, D.? I don't know, listening to rap music could make you run right out and sizzle up a fat bowl of crack..be careful D. That Mr. Moe Dee has some awesome powers!!
Did listening to it, make you want to tear your County Seat shirt off and make you spin on your head?
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I hated the way we were forced to dress...
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On 2005-01-06 19:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"One of my most vivid memories is sitting there staring at the ceiling, Imagining blue skies with the occasional cloud drifting by, it was all I could do to survive from day to day (mentally) thinking to myself....I'm never getting out of here and singing Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb to myself. Do you remember using carmex, lip balm?????????? :grin: :grin: :grin: "
I listened to Love and Rockets, Bauhaus, Tones on Tail, The Cure, Yaz, Echo and the Bunnymen etc... Most of the stuff I used to in my "druggie past" :grin:
Apparently I was considered "cool" by some staff members because my musical tastes were new wave, punk rock, original goth, and industrial. I got away with it, but I still had to dress like a total dumbass...
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Yeah the first day was a real shocker, including the whole lets change your clothes deal. I had on pants that were a rusty orange brown with a white cure t-shirt. They of course took my t-shirt away, (i never saw it again)and gave me, of all things, a purple button down dress shirt, and made me tuck it into my orange brown pants. I'm sure I looked like a complete loon, but that was the idea I guess.
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I would always sing the cocteau twins to myself my first few months. I had just gotten my first album by them a month before and I was totally in love with it. [ This Message was edited by: jane on 2005-01-07 14:14 ]
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my mom gave my clothes away including my green army pants. also a wool thrift store coat which I stuffed the pockets with everything I needed. if I could only have those pants back.
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Welcome Marla, glad you found the site, it's fun around here! :wave:
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God, all I remember is most of the guys had colored t-shirts with the pocket. I wanted a black one instead of canary yellow. Does anyone remember using Carmex, lip balm? It's like the only item they would let us keep on us, until we started "abusing it" by putting it on our lips out of pure bordome. They took it away and said it was becoming a problem. Does anyone remember this?? My lips hurt just thinking about it.[ This Message was edited by: jraypdxxx on 2005-01-07 16:29 ]
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Was it Blue Bell Knoll? I love that record. I can picture mumming along to that in there....could take you to a dreamy place.
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yeah i got totally strung out on that stuff after Straight. some friends found me in a subway station downtown, blood streaming from my cracked lips, totally out of it, wandering around hitting up anybody i saw with glossy lips for a hit.
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Pietra, who are you really?
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...And by the way, I like your humor!
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On 2005-01-07 13:24:00, Marlab72 wrote:
"Hello everyone, I just stumbled across this site. I can not believe I am reading about Straight!
My name is Marla Bradham and I was in Straight from January 8, 1990 to July 10, 1990."
Hi Marla, you were my oldcomer for most of my first phase...I dont know if you remember me.
Ill be honest and say I didnt like you much as my oldcomer, but people change and i am glad you have found the site. Did you leave or were you pulled? I cant remember....anyway, I hope all is well with you and i would like to chat.....send me a PM, or my e-mail is [email protected]
Take Care!
Carmel Creationists make it sound like a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author
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hey jray! i'll never tell, but i was in Straight VA. hope you don't mind I walked into the dallas party! :wink:
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I have laughed more since coming to this site then I have in the last year..
For you girls that were in Straight in 1989-1990...did you know a blonde girl named Sessy?
For whomever mentioned having to tuck your shirt in - I remembered all the clothes but forgot we always had to tuck them in...I don't think I had ever tucked a shirt in before that....
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I respect your wish, no I don't mind if you want to chat with us texans & x-texans, like myself. It's an open forum...a real free for all......party like a Texan.
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Always welcome with me...
Jim, I'm going to e-mail you tommorow some stuff.....it is really good to connect with you...I work about 2 minutes from "the building" I went by today...I have a really great story about it for you.....
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D. can you take a snapshot for me? What is it now?? Can you go in at all. That's creepy you live so close. I'm glad I have my distance.
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peace Kool Moe Dee, what was his popular song?
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Tuck in that shirt, put some of this on your lips, sit in that fucking blue chair there and flap your arms like the guy next to you. But the guy next to me..shhhhhh, don't talk..what..shhhhhhh..flap your arms you little shit, back off the chair..Ouch..Shhhhh..what? Repeat
My first day...............
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I look forward to it
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I'll e-mail you with all the details of the building....I've got to go into the office tommorow so I'll take the digital camera and take a few shots....
My first day I hardly had the power to sit up straight....and the guy who did my intake came by and whispered in my ear...."pot and alchol is the only thing on your drug list?? How come your so weak.....it's better to just get honest."
It was such a blur...funny thing I revised my drug list about 4 times...First off I didn't really recall what all I had done and hadn't done...I just kept changing it until they believed me....my honesty was pretty much whatever they wanted to hear sometimes....I don't think my hands ever turned purple ...or eyes darted....but to tell the truth I don't ever remember getting up and sharing...Sure, I "reached out" a time or two...confronted a few folks...got my share or ripping...but I don't ever remember the tears in my eyes stories....
What about guys rap....that...hands down...was the worst moment in the day....I swear half those guys were making up things just to score points to get to the next phase....again - honesty is whatever you were suppose to say....I work with some parents at a church who have "druggie" kids...and the one thing I say over and over again is."Don't label them drug addicts just because they smoked some pot and blew some coke" How many kids in straigt were actually drug addicts? So much for that 14-day evaluation...I never saw anyone be turned away.
D
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And I vividly remember being happy when we'd sing that..."Hit me in the face with an axe.. haha" song instead of "Country Roads...take me home...to the place...I belong"
D
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I went over to get coffee this morning at work and Cat's in the cradle came on............weird.
Maybe you can post the picture on this site, or e-mail an attachment. I really want a picture for some sick reason, maybe because I rarely saw the entrance, only when my sorry ass would be brought back after copping out. I forgot all about the hit me in the face song. I remember during my intake, they asked if I had a guy animal sexual relation, I had to clarify several times exactly what they ment and when I figured it out. I told them I didn't think I was in the right place and they snmiled at me and said, oh yes you are..the rest is well, it's what it is.
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I learned more about drugs in Straight. I remember everyone laughing at me cause i new i didnt do acid cause people had told me what it was and did, but i had no idea what lsd was, come to find out at that time it was the same thing. I still to this day have never seen the stuff. They would stand me up every day for like a week and confront me about it. I left that place thinking i was an addict. I joined Palmer drug abuse program when I got out cause I had to in order for my parents to keep me and about 5 years later they sat me down and talked to me about how easy it is for me to stay clean. They said I was'nt welcomed to the closed meetings anymore.
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That's a rather weird story, don't you think?
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On 2005-01-03 17:12:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"You tripped acid with those guys? :skull: :skull: :skull:
What is your name Mr. Taureana? My name is Jim Horn. "
Pat and I lived together for like a year. My name is Kelly Clark. We moved to Dallas and lived with Donnie Roach for awhile, till we could get our own place there. That was in 1991. I got sober again, and Pat wouldn't. Money was horrible, I was working at a stip club called PT's in Garland. And I just couldn't take the stress anymore. I had a baby daughter that my mom was keeping 'cause my life was so fucked up. I finally realized that if I kept going the way I was, I would never get my kid back. So I left Patrick and moved in with a guy I met from AA, also an ex-Straightling, named Michael Youngblood. He was an over-ager. Anyway, I moved in 'cause he needed a house sitter over the summer while he was going to be working in Houston. We ended up getting married several months later.
Pat and I didn't really talk after that. He got married a few months after I did. He's got like 4 daughters now. I keep in touch with his mother still. I really got close to her. Through this site, Pat and I talked for the first time in at least 10 years. It was cool.
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On 2005-01-04 13:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-12-31 12:23:00, taureana wrote:
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On 2004-12-30 19:21:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"Yo dude, remember when that Will guy punched you in the nose...that shit was funny. Sorry to hear your life has been so screwed up, sounds like you have a handle now...good. Man, remeber that guy Tyler, wasn't he in there for like 5 years.....heard from him? Peace"
XXXXXXXXXX and I hung out with Tyler on New Year's Eve 1991. Pat and I were still practicing sobriety then, and TXXXr said he was, but we had a strange feeling that he wasn't. After that TXXX was in a horrible car wreck in Houston, the driver of the car died. Me & XXXXX went to see him in the hospital in Houston. He was on a feeding tube at the time. When they found him at the wreck, both his legs were busted up and over his shoulders. The car was a two seater Miata or something like that. He had been life-flighted to the hospital. When he got discharged from the hospital, he was transferred to a rehabilitation hospital where he practically had to re-learn to walk.
I saw him again with XXXXX in like November or December of 1991, we all tripped acid one night together. I never saw him again after that. I wish I knew what happened to him. Anyone know anything more recent??"
Do you have zero respect for these peoples' privacy, or do you just not know any better? :roll: "
Listen, we are all part of a group of people that went through hell together. These people were my family for many years. No one really checks out this site unless they have something to do with it or were a part of it in some way.
Reading about other people that we know and what they went through helps us to understand ourselves, and give us some semblance of sanity.
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On 2005-01-06 13:04:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"I was there when they changed that (motivating), it's weird that it was hard to quit. As weird as motivating was, it served as a way to let out pent up aggression....thank god, for motivating :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:
...in a really sick, dark way!!!!"
I agree, I liked motivating. I thought it sucked too, when they quit it.
I remember comparing bruises and shit like that with other phasers from motivating. I remember some people talking about how in the winter when their hands would get dry and they'd motivate, that their finger tips would split open and they'd bleed. Gross, huh?
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They also said clients were not allowed to help restrain other clients. Staff only. Unless of course 50 kids ran for the door at the same time and there wasnt enough staff in all of Dallas to restrain them. Which happened just before I ran, for several days.
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Most of the girls wouldn't help restrain, I was always having to do it. I was like the first one called on to restrain. Until I turned 18. Executive staff pulled me aside and said I wasn't allowed to restrain anymore. Didn't want a lawsuit or something......
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On 2005-01-06 17:02:00, irvingbound wrote:
" Does anyone Justin Peticrew (think that was his last name)?
D"
Justin's in East Texas too, I think Tyler or there abouts. If you're interested in finding him, Todd Townley may know how to reach him. Todd & him were really close for awhile after Straight, but I don't think they are so much anymore.
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On 2005-01-06 19:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"One of my most vivid memories is sitting there staring at the ceiling, Imagining blue skies with the occasional cloud drifting by, it was all I could do to survive from day to day (mentally) thinking to myself....I'm never getting out of here and singing Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb to myself. Do you remember using carmex, lip balm?????????? :grin: :grin: :grin: "
When I was there, they quit allowing carmex, because it was in a glass container, and they were afraid a misbehavor would break it and it would become a weapon.
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On 2005-01-07 13:54:00, jane wrote:
"Yeah the first day was a real shocker, including the whole lets change your clothes deal. I had on pants that were a rusty orange brown with a white cure t-shirt. They of course took my t-shirt away, (i never saw it again)and gave me, of all things, a purple button down dress shirt, and made me tuck it into my orange brown pants. I'm sure I looked like a complete loon, but that was the idea I guess. "
Jane - I REMEMBER THAT!!!! Your cure t-shirt either went into the black hole of clothesearch, or else it was given to your mom. If it was given to your mom, she was told that it was a druggie tie, and that she had to get rid of it.
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I saw the building a few months ago! Its now some computer software place or something, right in the middle of a whole bunch of other businesses, and right off of george bush freeway.
It looks totally different now, I guess it was like a lifetime ago. You have a story to tell? Did you go inside??
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On 2005-01-07 16:36:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"Was it Blue Bell Knoll? I love that record. I can picture mumming along to that in there....could take you to a dreamy place."
Yes that's it. :smile:
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On 2005-01-07 18:52:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"I went over to get coffee this morning at work and Cat's in the cradle came on............weird."
Oh yeah. That song, the take me home song, and lean on me always remind me of singing in group. The take me home song always made me feel the worst, I guess for obvious reasons.
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On 2005-01-11 05:55:00, taureana wrote:
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On 2005-01-07 13:54:00, jane wrote:
"Yeah the first day was a real shocker, including the whole lets change your clothes deal. I had on pants that were a rusty orange brown with a white cure t-shirt. They of course took my t-shirt away, (i never saw it again)and gave me, of all things, a purple button down dress shirt, and made me tuck it into my orange brown pants. I'm sure I looked like a complete loon, but that was the idea I guess. "
Jane - I REMEMBER THAT!!!! Your cure t-shirt either went into the black hole of clothesearch, or else it was given to your mom. If it was given to your mom, she was told that it was a druggie tie, and that she had to get rid of it."
So I DID look like a loon! :smile:
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D - Did you ever take pictures of the Irving Building? I also work about 2 minuets from there and drive past it often but I never been back inside. I am very curious!
This site (and all the other ones about Straight that I have discovered in the last few days) are bringing back so many memoires.
I would really like to find other people that were in there in 1990!
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Jane kicks trash around the old building, with her head down wearing her Cure t-shirt, as the Cocteau Twins yoddle from her headphones...just an image I had.
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Wish we could buy that old building, and distroy it! :flame:
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Unfortunatly my digital camera went wack-o when I went to take the pictures...may have been a sign....Yes, it is a computer company now....I am going back tommorow with my regualr camera and should have some pics up by end of the day tommorow. I still owe you an e-mail Jim...just been real busy this last few days...
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Hey D. thanks, I look forward to it. What do you do for work these days, anway?
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Inventory Control for a company that makes interlock units (devices that are installed on drunk driver?s cars...like breath analyzers)....
I was a partial owner of a logistics company but we went under when we lost our two biggest contracts and couldn't pay for all our warehouse space and employees...that ended two years ago...
...working on a new company now.
I do a lot of writing as a hobby...
D
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The most conservative idea I have is that every car should be equipted with one. The Gov. acts like they really care about accidents caused by drinking. Well....make it manditory that every car have one, seems pretty simple to me. The only people that would be against it are the ones that drink and drive on a regular basis i.e. the ones we need to worry about!!! D. at least with your job, you are saving some lives here and there. I know this is a conservative idea, but it's basic statistics.
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Yea, it's crazy that I ended up working for any company of that sorts....My ambition as a young teenager was to be Sid Vicious...as an older teenager ...a tattoo artist....but after kids and the fact that I couldn't draw...and then getting off the drugs that were literally killing me....I just focused on work.....it worked out well for me....Hardest thing was leaving the lifestyle....but now I am at square 1 since my company shut down....I lost a lot of money from the shut down, but I have no complaints....Like every Straight ex I'm working on some writings...focused towards parents who think their kids are addicts.....I may name it 14 Day Evaluation......
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Jim,
Didn't your Mom use to own an art gallery.....I was just thinking about that....it's cool she is in Santa Fe...she liked that Southwestern Art....
There were only two moms I clicked with...her and Ms. McNeil (in Rockwall...Chris's mom)....Your mom was sincere and just really cool....I remember her talking to me the night you escapped....She was really upset about everything that was going on at that time.....
That night, did you take a newcomer with you or just go out the bathroom window? It was nuts.
Anyway, I saw your Mom at the Parks mall after I got out...about a year later....I was really messed up and with my girlfriend....I felt real guilty...
Hows your Dad doing?
D
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My dad is good, we are close. Strange thing, the whole time I was living there in Straight, my dad was shagging, the cocktail waitress at his hotel he stayed at, he is a pilot. My mother knew and Straight had instructed them to not discuss their problems with me, that I needed to just focus on me and my drug problem. So the whole family thing was complete bullshit. I didn't find all this out until, I had left on third phase. A friend of the family said to me, sorry to hear about your folks. I was like, what are you talking about? That's when he told me. I had never felt so betrayed in my life. I flipped my shit out. Needless to say, that being the fourth time I copped out, I didn't have to go back, that was the only plus. The biggest fucking plus in the whole wide world....thanks dad for shagging that waitress.....no really, it caused much pain. It took my poor mother 10 years to get over it.
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Yes, my mom the southwestern art fag!!!
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Are you married?
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Yep, just got hitched in October. I had a baby just two years after I got out of straight...that relationship didn't workout...she wanted me to sober up and work a real job...then I got with a woman 13 years older then me and had another daughter....we seperated after 9 years...I now have that daughter most of the time....
Your mom told me she and your dad were divorcing that night you copped out....that was the biggest reason I didn't tear ass. She was crying and really upset. I will never forget it. I had never had an adult ask me to do anything for them, but she asked me to please not leave and then she left me by myself....I just wandered around your house...The back door was open from Patrick running out it.....I stepped outside....came back in looked for your mom...she was crying in the kitchen.....I just thought...."I don't even know where I'm at"....so I sat at the kitchen table....what was real messed up is the next day I go ripped for lying about some bs in a prior group session....(another Midlander ratted me out) but I was never told how good it was I stuck around....
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14 Day Evaluation......
I like this....as a name for yr writings I mean.. :tup:
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On 2005-01-11 16:18:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"Jane kicks trash around the old building, with her head down wearing her Cure t-shirt, as the Cocteau Twins yoddle from her headphones...just an image I had."
:smile: :smile: :smile:
that might have been me right after I got out. I did go back with some friends about 6 months after I ran away and we opened the back door, and got chased out to the car. it was pretty terrifying actually.
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On 2005-01-11 17:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Unfortunatly my digital camera went wack-o when I went to take the pictures...may have been a sign....Yes, it is a computer company now....I am going back tommorow with my regualr camera and should have some pics up by end of the day tommorow. I still owe you an e-mail Jim...just been real busy this last few days...
D"
Are you going inside???
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On 2005-01-12 16:32:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"The most conservative idea I have is that every car should be equipted with one. The Gov. acts like they really care about accidents caused by drinking. Well....make it manditory that every car have one, seems pretty simple to me. The only people that would be against it are the ones that drink and drive on a regular basis i.e. the ones we need to worry about!!! D. at least with your job, you are saving some lives here and there. I know this is a conservative idea, but it's basic statistics."
DUI Cost
Disposal of totaled out car $140.00
Attorney fees $2500.00
Court cost $250.00
Fine $1000.00
Work release program $305.00
Alcohol/Drug education $530.00
Level 4 road rage anger management $154.00
License reinstatement $70.00
SR22 Insurance $69.00 (a month for 3 yrs)
New car $17,000
Running over a cop with a 2.93BAC, watching him bleed all over the pavement while standing there laughing at him, PRICELESS ::drummer::
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The dui thing was kinda funny, but not really.
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Go watch Seinfeild than ya ungrateful fuck.
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Well, I took some pictures from the outside, but I am going to try and go in this Saturday and just see if they will let me take a picture of the front desk at minimum...if not I may snap it and run. I would love to have a picture of the room/office I had my intake done in...or the enfermery, the clothes closet, and of course the main group room...but I'll be content if I can just get a snap shot of the front dek.....I will get them this Saturday morning....
D
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On 2005-01-13 16:35:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
Running over a cop with a 2.93BAC, watching him bleed all over the pavement while standing there laughing at him, PRICELESS ::drummer::
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:rofl:
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On 2005-01-13 20:24:00, irvingbound wrote:
"Well, I took some pictures from the outside, but I am going to try and go in this Saturday and just see if they will let me take a picture of the front desk at minimum...if not I may snap it and run. I would love to have a picture of the room/office I had my intake done in...or the enfermery, the clothes closet, and of course the main group room...but I'll be content if I can just get a snap shot of the front dek.....I will get them this Saturday morning....
D"
Tell them you're writing a book or something, :wink:
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Yea, I like Jerry in his acid washed pants and tight little perm-mullet, and his whinny little sides are to die for.
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Yo, D. go for the group room, that's the place were we lost all feeling in our butt cheeks.
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Well, I'm heading over to the building....at the minimum I will get some pictures of the front and the infamous double doors in the back. I will try to get inside and take some snap shots....I am amazed at the several e-mails I have received about sending them pics....I will get to you all.
If they are not open I will go sometime at lunch this week and talk to one of the Managers there to see if they will allow me to take some pics of the front desk and group room....I'll use the book idea....thats a good one....
D
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How did it go D. any luck? Do you remember Chris Cherry?
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They would not let me in....but I did get the Managers name and I will call him this week. I took a photo of the front and the back...Digital wasn't working so I took them with my camera...pics being developed.
Chris Cherry sounds familiar but I can't picture him....I went in in Feb abnd I think he had already graduated.
D
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maybe so
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I remember Chris CHerry and spoke to him recently.
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Which building did you go to ? The pre 1989 building or the irving one? I was pulled the week before the Irving move
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Right on scar, glad you didn't have to go to Irving...what a dump
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I went to the Irving Building, but I am going to go to the Richardson building in the next week or so....I have to go to Walgreens in the next day or so and pick up the pictures of Irving. I called the Manager of the company that is in there now, but he has not returned my call yet...
D
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Yeah Ive been meaning to drive out to richardson myself, but this MMT detox is just kicking my ass..Id rather have my legs broken ..
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cool scar, we'll see what we can do bout that
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Does anyone know the address to the Richardson building?
D
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On 2005-01-12 20:33:00, irvingbound wrote:
" but I was never told how good it was I stuck around....
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That was one of the things that pissed me off most about Straight. There were so many times that I was the only girl ready to restrain when people started running for the doors and times when I had my days off, but I stayed in the building 'cause the group was weak.
I saw lots of "good deeds" that went unnoticed because everyone was so quick to confront.
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On 2005-01-20 05:24:00, irvingbound wrote:
"Does anyone know the address to the Richardson building?
D"
It was off Arapaho road, I think. If you read some of the Dallas threads back to the beginning, you can find the address. I'm sure it's here somewhere.
Also, whoever had asked about Steve Brooks recently, same goes. Rumor is he's in prison, but you can get much more info by reading the beginning of these threads.
In my opinion, too much talk about Brooks. As egomaniacle as he was, he'd love it if he knew how much chatter was about him.
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On 2005-01-20 05:43:00, taureana wrote:
In my opinion, too much talk about Brooks. As egomaniacle as he was, he'd love it if he knew how much chatter was about him."
He does know...
He's a human being just like all of us, and everyone loves attention. I correspond with he and his family on a regular basis. Hopefully he'll stay on a healthy path once he gets out. Lord knows he's been through as much hell as many feel he put them through. How about a little compassion? He got caught up in the game, and was praised for being the way he was in Straight. It was torture for him, and as a result he has spent the past 19 years trying to erase himself. Also, he too was just a kid when this all began for him. We are all survivors now, and need support.
There never was a good war or a bad peace.
--Benjamin Franklin, (1773)
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On 2005-01-20 05:36:00, taureana wrote:
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On 2005-01-12 20:33:00, irvingbound wrote:
" but I was never told how good it was I stuck around....
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That was one of the things that pissed me off most about Straight. There were so many times that I was the only girl ready to restrain when people started running for the doors and times when I had my days off, but I stayed in the building 'cause the group was weak.
I saw lots of "good deeds" that went unnoticed because everyone was so quick to confront."
"good deed" = restraining the girls???
"weak group" = girls that didn't restrain???
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And you thought it was bad that nobody stopped their restraining and confronting to give you a little praise, Ha Ha.
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On 2005-01-20 06:12:00, LME wrote:
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On 2005-01-20 05:43:00, taureana wrote:
In my opinion, too much talk about Brooks. As egomaniacle as he was, he'd love it if he knew how much chatter was about him."
He does know...
He's a human being just like all of us, and everyone loves attention. I correspond with he and his family on a regular basis. Hopefully he'll stay on a healthy path once he gets out. Lord knows he's been through as much hell as many feel he put them through. How about a little compassion? He got caught up in the game, and was praised for being the way he was in Straight. It was torture for him, and as a result he has spent the past 19 years trying to erase himself. Also, he too was just a kid when this all began for him. We are all survivors now, and need support.
There never was a good war or a bad peace.
--Benjamin Franklin, (1773)
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Don't get me wrong. I am not one of the "anti-Steve Brooks" people. He was nice to me and helped me out when I needed it most, and when i was being doubted and overlooked.
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Y'all please don't get me wrong. All I was saying is that there were plenty of times that people were supportive to others and caring and considerate and helpful and did what they were supposed to..... and no one ever cared about that. All they wanted to do was rip people and degrade and make everyone feel less of a human being.
And unfortunately, when 15 misbehavors decided to run for the doors, it was part of our responsibility to help restrain.
I am not saying that restraining was a good thing to do, but that was what was expected in those circumstances.
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I never restrained anyone as a client or as staff.(In Dallas we became paid employees after graduation) I never thought that to be my responibility. There were times as a client that I was told by a 5th phaser to replace someone holding a limb. I really hated that shit. Sometimes they were bloody, sweaty and I felt awkward in that situation.
What I did do........
While I was on 5th trainee a girls non-custodal dad broke into the building to free his daughter. I grabbed him by the neck and threw him back out. (Noone called the police or anything, just told him to leave.)
I had one newcomer bolt out the host home front door on me. I chased, tackled, and beltlooped back.
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True dat about brooks, as much as I hated him while in there, sounds like his karma has caught up with him. Hope he ends up well.
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Restraining was weird
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Sounds like Tyler is ok, no need to panic. He is safe and sound out there somewhere. We wish him all the love in the world. :wave:
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Hes the only person in my life that I hate..
He wasnt just doing his job he had glee in his eyes when he ripped into people...
Now he is a short fat little man...who denies that he remembers straight .. Hes gonna pay the motherfucking piper. Looked me right in the eye and acted like he didnt remember me..
What a cunt.
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Steve brooks is fat? He was a platinum blonde waffer when I knew him. I can't imagine he's fat..
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Regarding Steve Brooks, think Boss Hog
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The band?
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I restrainted, but didn't care for it....was restrained...cared a lot less for that....but hey we were just playing the hands dealt to us.
Which one was Steve Brooks....the one on the cover of the mag or the dude who was from Duncanville who had long hair when he came in...?
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Brooks, had a platinum blonde flat top sort of thing....he was a total asshole then, I hear he's a short little fat man now, living in a prison cell...far far away. God bless him! Karma sure bit him on the bum-bum. ouch!!!
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i was just curious...are there any dallas people here that were there in 91'? it's real hard for me to remember names...except those that i did not like....strange
oh i do remember some of the staff....there were actually like two or three that were somewhat nice....scott w., heath d., and a girl named lisa....that's all i remember
lisa :lol:
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Right on dudette
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On 2005-01-21 18:10:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"Steve brooks is fat? He was a platinum blonde waffer when I knew him. I can't imagine he's fat.. "
Yah hes fat and ..short. Sad little man ...
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On 2005-01-20 05:24:00, irvingbound wrote:
"Does anyone know the address to the Richardson building?
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Its on executive drive ..yeah I actually have it on some documents..Ill post it when I can dig them up
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Scar,
Time for a new picture! Phil is great, but he's getting old.
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Does anyone remember a female staffer by the name of Jennifer, I think? Blonde, big girl...not huge, but not small..she was my favorite. I used to daydream, that she liked me and would pull me into a little room somewhere and make out with me......what else was there to dream about while misbehaving?
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On 2005-01-27 17:20:00, jraypdxxx wrote:
"Does anyone remember a female staffer by the name of Jennifer, I think? Blonde, big girl...not huge, but not small..she was my favorite. I used to daydream, that she liked me and would pull me into a little room somewhere and make out with me......what else was there to dream about while misbehaving?"
Oh Honey,
The only Jennifer that I know about, who actually matches your description is Jen Loar. Jen has posted here several times, and has become a much different person than who she was.
Yes she was big then, but is now thin and extremely beautiful. Maybe she will read your post some day and respond to you....
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that's her...she was really sweet to me. She was beautiful then.
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she was hott!!
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YAAAWWWN! This is getting boring.
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Hi Todd,
Its Chris Cox. How's it going? I live in OC California now. My e mial is [email protected]. DO you remember me?
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Hey Chris!
I sent you and e-mail.
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Sorry if we're boring you anonymous, maybe you should check out a porn site instead.
Chris Cox, that name is so familiar....but, I can't place the face at all.
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I meant it was boring when I was staring at a test pattern for three and a half hours. Now that there's some action, it's not boring. Carry on.
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Jenn Loar is a spiteful evil bitch..although you may find her appearance attractive ...she is ugly on the inside.
She has a freight train of Karma creeping up her fat ass as we speak..
I believe shes writing a book on straight, perhaps it should be titled Straight: an abusers perspective
Mommy and Daddy sent her to a high dollar "cult deprogramming" rehab though and shes all fine and dandy and real real sorry for what she did. /sarcasm off
Apology is unacceptable, however...
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Edit: typo
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Why does everyone claim to be from "The OC" now? Thats fucking gay...just say what city you live in...dont have to be on the 90210 wagon...or whatever the fuck tripped out shit you are into.
Elite tripped out up stairs organization of fuckers...
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What's the OC? Don't get it. There's an Ocean City, MD but I know that can't be it, lol.
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Orange County, California
They have some gay fucking show called "The OC" its like a modern 90210
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How ya been Froed? Pm me sometime..give ya my new e mail
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Did you marry Todd Townley?
This is Chris Cox
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On 2005-02-03 13:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Did you marry Todd Townley?
This is Chris Cox"
Me? Im a fucking guy..You are thinking of Val...who aint me.
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I didn't know scarstruck was gay
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Scar is gay?
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You guys fail at reading comprehension..
Its a known fact that Scars shares a house with a female that occasionally , albiet rarely posts here.
Im sure some of you faggots are eager to gobble my dick but Im a hetero one woman man
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Isn't she tired of supporting you yet????
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On 2005-02-08 17:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Isn't she tired of supporting you yet????"
:rofl:...Be kinda hard for her to support me while shes in school..Your jealousy seeps from every pore, perhaps you need me to post proper suicide instructions for you too?
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Chris, are you seriously asking me if I remember you??????????
duuuuuuuuude how are you man? I am well and I would love to talk to you my friend
You know that your dad was my first sponsor!! isnt that wild
anyway emailme at [email protected]
then we can exchange numbers and talk
there is much to discuss my old friend
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Todd, that's so cool that you live in Portland...Yes, let's have coffee...good to connect after all that time!
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John, did you wear glasses?
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It was good to hang w/ you the other night!
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JW here.
Todd and Jim,
I had a total blast, can't wait to hang out again.
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Yes, she was evil once and has turned into a more than decent human being. Try something called forgiveness, it actually feels pretty good. Overall, I was pretty lame while I was in Straight, thank God I've become a much better person. That happens to some of us.
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Hey Jim, likewise. I had a great time and it was pretty theraputic as well
we have to get together again soon.
we should all (you john and I) meet up and do a hike or someshit like that soon
call me or I'll call you
later bro
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Hey John it was awsome to meet you and get to know you a little bit...that shit with the phone call was super funny "ring...ring...hello?...)
buhahahah
call me soon buddy
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On 2005-02-25 23:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yes, she was evil once and has turned into a more than decent human being. Try something called forgiveness, it actually feels pretty good. Overall, I was pretty lame while I was in Straight, thank God I've become a much better person. That happens to some of us."
Jen Loar has a heart of gold. And you're right Anonymous, forgiveness is what sets you free. Thanks for the post.
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On 2005-02-27 13:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-02-25 23:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yes, she was evil once and has turned into a more than decent human being. Try something called forgiveness, it actually feels pretty good. Overall, I was pretty lame while I was in Straight, thank God I've become a much better person. That happens to some of us."
Jen Loar has a heart of gold. And you're right Anonymous, forgiveness is what sets you free. Thanks for the post. "
i hope so, because her heart was not so golden while i was in straight....she was better than a few other staff members...whatever
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I thought Jen Loar was Hott!