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Yes well Im bipolar, and Im about to go to a new psychiatrist. I havnt been in awhile. I use to go to Abc Behavioral health for a few years and I hated it. Timberlawn is still here in Dallas though a state ward instead of private ward and ABC Behavioral health is right next door to it, and Ive always wondered if ABC was connected to Timberlawn.I diddnt like ABC because Christians were always witnessing to me all the time.I jsut went to a Bipolar support meetup for teh second time whos run by a lady who volunteers for NAMI shes got alot of info on mental health but shes Bipolar and has several mental illnesses herself.

Personally i still dont like the psychiatric profession today nor the attitude of people involved with NAMI either. I was telling this lady who runs the Bipolar supports in Dallas that I felt like I was traumatized by my past and that Psychiatric groups seemed to be like all happy and positive about the psychiatric profession when I really think we need to be able to gripe and complain. She said she agreed with me she didnt want it to all be a happy sappy lets get excited about psychiatric profession environment.But then after that she made the whole group like that. One woman talked for an hour and took up all the talking time an dshe took it up with talk about her emdication changes, now I would understand talking about that along time if your in a  crisis situation and having a hard time but she wasnt. Infact she was peppy and happy and all excited about it and seemed like she did just sit there and made the whole thing like lets get into our psychiatric problems and they were getting into it and made it seem like if your not leading your life as someone whos obsessed with their teratment and psychiatric profession and all hyped up and excited about the psychiatric profession that your leading your life wrongly. It reminds me of the old hate group Pentecostal church I was a member of for 9 years where everyone was obsessed with the church!


She also said at the end that she thought if I were gonna get therapy for the abuse I suffered as a teen in psych wards sense its been a long time Id need to get over it soon, its in the past and I need to learn to grow up and get past it. In other words GET OVER IT! Cute but theres a problem, uh sense i probably have PTSD from being tied down to a bed and chair and physically abused for 6 months at Baylor adolescent wards and talk in my sleep and have nightmares still time to time from it thats gonna be hard to do.


Timberlawn has a trauma unit you can check into but forget it dont want to spend anymore time in the psychiatric wards for trauma from the psych wards dont trust them! Im about to see a new psychiatrist and I deifnitly dont trust them.


Imd like to start a new meetup.com gorup to ahve a b**ch and gripe sessions for us psychiatric patients but the last one I put up nobody joined it so i took it down but still am paying for my meetup.com groups as administrater. if anyone who lives in the Dallas area is interested in starting a meetup group psych patients let me know and Im paying for it but Ill let anyone else help me run it and put it up for me and discuss the name of it and eveyrthing else.Jts let me know ok.

The thing about the situation with the older male patients is this. I never felt violated or abused or traumatized by ti sure it was scary at first but in the end I sort of liked it it was ok. However and I was in Timberlawn in 1982 not 83 sorry got my eyars confused. The thing about Timberlawn in 83 is that it really seems like the staff uh made it more into a  party and turned the other way and really kind of englected us more or less.The parry with the older male patients wasnt that big of deal but obviously tehre was some sexual insinuations going on that they invited us only wioth noone else, the fgact that the staff laughed it off and looked the other way is that they really put us ina  dangerous situation,now luckily nothing happened to traumatize me I wasnt abused, but I lucked out it couldve happened, so the fact that they ignored such situations put us ina dangerous situation.

The fact that they ebcame much more abusive and stricter in later years tells me this. they were still the same old staff that didnt want to take responsibility for didley squat and didnt want to work for their low wage paytcheck and they just did this. They said well weve been in trouble for letting thinsg slip out of control in the past such as the sutuation with the dances with older men and adolescent girls and so they got into trouble for it and they still didnt want to do their job, so what did they do, well we'll just put everyone in restraints and on hard back chair restriction that way we can go back to what we were doing before which is nothing but laying around on their buts not working for their paycheck and sense their all tied down in their rooms they dont have to worry about them getting into trouble and such! thats what it sound slike to me sorry.


Thats my take on the situation!

Thanks for replying guys! Ill be off tongiht and tomarrow but be back thursday. its interesting how many different placews and programs that are abusive are out there.I was at Teen Challenge for one month as well and another program in texas which was a Teen Challenge at one time but changed their name and affiliation. Theyre real strict stricter then Teen Chalenge I only lasted a couple of weeks there, But I actually got slapped in the face by the directors wife there. Im overweight and have a hard time eating vegitables for some stupid reason they had a rediculous rule about having to eat every stinking bite of food on your plate and of course I started gagging when i went to eat my vegitables and she walked up and slapped my face! I left and called home obviously. Its not anything to talk about for me though, i really wasnt in that program long enough to feel traumatizedd by it althoguh its pretty bazzarre being slpped in the face at the age of 27 for not eating my vegitables!

Sorry about the mis spelled words

It probably was way stricter there by the time you got there, however we did have on girl who was in restraints all the time there, and I of course wa sin restraints all the time at Baylor, sounds like your Timberlawn experience wa smore like my Baylor experience.However Timberlawn had alot of us on hard back chair restriction as well I know it was very hard and strict but probablya lot harder by the time you got there.

I have to admit to something here I left something out because Im emabarrssed by it.But uh if you guys didnt get patio parties and cook outs and dances maybe it was in  part the fault of our ward.Yea Ive got a little story to tell you.
Well we had dances like evry weekend, and back then it seems like there was a young adult ward and an adult ward and for some reason who knows why, not only did the guys have dance with us, but ALL Units were allowed to have patio parties and dances and uh,we got invites from other units to go to dances. I just started remembering this her eof late and it scared me too. Uh, yea well the Young adult mens wards started sending requests for adolescent girls to have dances with them,
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Hi! Im Elizabeth!I was in Timberlawn in 1983, I was 15, the girls adolescent ward. I had come out of baylors Adolescent ward before I came to Timberlawn, baylor was so strict and rigid that I had tried to commit suicide but really didnt want to kill myself, just thought that theyd send me to another institutkion if I caused enough trouble, anyways I tried it 3 different times, and Baylor kept me tied down to a bed in restraints for 6 months. They had me so drugged up with Thorazine that by the time I got to Timberlawn, they put me on a  couch in the big lounge and layed me down and told me I wasnt gonna do anything but sleep and eat for the enxt week. I had to sleep off all the drugs I had in me from Baylor.I had alot of the smae experiences at timberlawn as well strict and ahrd yea well, but I was so terrified of being put into restraints by that time that I was almost perfect by the time I got to Timberlawn. So I didnt get into much trouble at Timberlawn, and I was one of the lucky ones who got grounds privaleges early and was able to go to PE and we walked 2 miles a day everyday and went to the Canteen on Saturday the little store they had for us. We also had patio parties and dances with the guys alot. Itw as very strict and hard even with the parties and all that, and I have to say that alot fo people didnt have the privalges of going to dances and parties. One person was my roommate, K. she and I were real close. She was only 13 and had run away from home with her boyfriend and her parents threw her in to Timberlawn and she was scared. I was scared too and we took care of each other and showed at group meetings and stuff and sat with each other at meals times and other places alot. I suspected then that some were saying we were gay and whats interesting is that they started demonizing her to me. She was 5 feet one inch and 95 lbs and looked like a little girl and its like guys liked her naturally you know which was no big deal but they made a big deal out of it constantly accusing her of being sexually permiscous all the time and they were always putting her on guy retriction and tried to convince me that she would take my boyfriends away from me and what not. I had a boyfriend and a guyfriend and at parties I was so scarwed shed get into trouble with guys that she and I hung out together with my BF, so wed all hang out together, and I just know they were making it into something  nasty that it wasnt. The whole thing with them being paranoid about Gays and Homosexuals, i really think they were paranoid about me and my room mate because they kept demonizing her to me.Anyways if anyones interested in talking to me pelase dont hesitate to write me at [email protected]
My name is Elizabeth