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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => News Items => Topic started by: Ursus on November 13, 2011, 05:50:55 PM
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San Jose Mercury News
Calif. mother arrested in death of 4-day-old girl (http://http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_19292117)
The Associated Press
Posted: 11/08/2011 04:58:45 PM PST
Updated: 11/08/2011 04:58:47 PM PST
REDDING, Calif. — A 23-year-old Northern California woman is under arrest for killing her infant girl and then hiding the baby's body.
The Shasta County Sheriff's Office said Tuesday that Jessica Bradford was arrested on suspicion of murder and willful harm to a child. She is being held in Shasta County Jail on $1 million bail.
Investigators say Bradford gave birth to the girl in September but hid the pregnancy from everyone, including her boyfriend. She allegedly kept the baby in a vacant residence at the private Christian boarding school where she worked in Whitmore, about 30 miles east of Redding.
The baby died four days later.
Bradford is accused of hiding the baby's body in a staff dormitory and then moving it when she suspected someone had discovered it.
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Now that's what I call emotional support!
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The facility's website is "Down for maintenance." Oh, I bet it is! ::)
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KHSL-TV
Shasta County Woman Arrested in Death of Newborn (http://http://www.khsltv.com/content/localnews/story/Shasta-County-Woman-Arrested-in-Death-of-Newborn/mZkBHr6eeUeI_0zH39Ymbw.cspx)
Reported by: Alan Marsden
Email: [email protected]
Last Update: 11/08 6:22 pm
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Jessica Nicole Bradford
A Shasta County woman faces murder charges for allegedly killing her baby at a remote, private school for troubled youth. Jessica Bradford, age 23, was arrested Sunday night after authorities received a report of a still-born baby girl at the Julian Academy in Whitmore. Tuesday afternoon, investigators revealed the baby girl was actually born around September 19th and died about four days later.
Bradford reportedly kept the pregnancy hidden from everyone she knew, including her boyfriend. She reportedly admitted neglecting to care for the newborn by not feeding it. When the baby died Bradford reportedly kept its body in a laundry basket for a month and a half. Authorities say the baby was in a mummified state of decomposition; however was a fully developed, full term baby. Bradford is expected to be arraigned Wednesday.
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An earlier topic on Julian Youth Academy:
JYA: Expansion when other are downsizing
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26981 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=26981)[/list]
Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but... it looks like these people took over the former Cascade School campus in Whitmore sometime after it closed:
"The [Julian Youth Academy] has leased a 250-acre ranch formerly known as Shepherd's Ranch and the Cascade School, east of Whitmore, since 2009."[/list]
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KRCR-TV
UPDATE: Shasta County Woman Arrested For Killing Secret Baby; Infant Found Mummified (http://http://www.krcrtv.com/news/29713689/detail.html)
By Kerry Loring, Asst. News Director
POSTED: 9:30 am PST November 8, 2011
UPDATED: 9:31 am PST November 11, 2011
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Bradford, Jessica Nicole
WHITMORE, Calif. -- A young mother is facing murder charges after the mummified body of her baby girl was found dead at a boarding school for troubled teens in eastern Shasta County.
Jessica Nicole Bradford, 23, was arrested Sunday at Julian Youth Academy near Whitmore, east of Redding.
KRCR News Channel 7 has learned Bradford is a current employee of the Julian Youth Academy and lived in a dorm on the 250-acre property on Tintagel Lane.
According to the Shasta County Sheriff's Office, they received a report of a deceased infant around 5:30 p.m. Sunday. Deputies found the mummified body of a infant girl and determined Bradford, the infant's mother, was responsible for the death.
A lengthy interview with Bradford revealed startling details about what transpired over the past few months. The Sheriff's Office says Bradford told them she got pregnant while working at the academy and that she gave birth on or about September 19th. She told investigators she hid the pregnancy from everyone, including her boyfriend of three years. She originally told investigators the baby was stillborn, but later admitted that it lived about four days before dying.
Bradford said she thought about giving the baby up for adoption, but eventually decided against it. She admitted to neglecting the baby by not giving it any food or breast milk. She said she kept the baby in a vacant building on campus for those first four days and would check on it periodically while she still worked, visited her boyfriend and drove to Redding at least two times.
Bradford said she didn't name the baby because she didn't want to become attached to it.
After the baby died, she kept the child hidden in her room in a laundry basket for approximately a month and a half until a co-worker discovered it. When she realized someone had possibly seen the baby, she decided to move it to a utility closet on Friday, November 4th. Sheriff's deputies eventually found the child in that same closet on Sunday, the 6th.
According to the Sheriff's Office, the baby was in a mummified state of decomposition. It was a fully-developed, full-term baby.
Bradford was arrested for an open count of murder and willful harm or injury to a child. She is being held at the Shasta County Jail on $1,000,000 bail. She is expected to be arraigned Wednesday.
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Julian Youth Academy
The Julian Youth Academy is Christian residential boarding school for troubled teens. According to the organization's website, it was founded in 1993 as a non-profit private residential school for struggling teenagers in need of full-time supervision and redirection. It accepts students ages 12-17 and has another campus in Southern California. The academy has leased a 250-acre ranch formerly known as Shepherd's Ranch and the Cascade School, east of Whitmore, since 2009.
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Comments (http://http://www.krcrtv.com/news/29713689/detail.html) left for the above article, "Shasta County Woman Arrested For Killing Secret Baby; Infant Found Mummified (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=408123#p408123)" (by Kerry Loring; November 8/11, 2011; KRCR-TV), #s too many to count pt. 1/2:
Michelle Slade · Owner at My Umbrella Marketing & Consulting · November 8, 2011 at 9:53am
A sad story for all involved.
Rachellyn Robinson · Redding, California · November 8, 2011 at 9:55am
Naiomi Dickmeyer · November 8, 2011 at 6:41pm
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Crystal Ann Walker · Redding, California · November 8, 2011 at 12:41pm
wow there was only 4 people booked into the shasta county jail for murder before the past two days....now there's six. two murders in one week.....where is redding going from here?
Sherry Tolen · Cottonwood, California · November 8, 2011 at 1:41pm
the same place the rest of the world is goin...
Tyler Hadley · November 8, 2011 at 5:45pm
that lady must be twisted in the head or something. I wonder if religion had something to do with this.
Tyler Hadley · November 8, 2011 at 5:46pm
no offense but i think some heavy duty christians are known for doing weird stuff.
Jule Sourjohn · Dallas, Oregon · November 8, 2011 at 5:50pm
Tyler Hadley that has got to be the stupidest thing I have heard in a very long time!
Tyler Hadley · November 8, 2011 at 5:57pm
Jule Sourjohn what do you mean? they are not all angels. i read about some of the things they do.
Jule Sourjohn · Dallas, Oregon · November 8, 2011 at 5:58pm
Tyler Hadley Then they are not true Christians. You cannot say that it was her religion or beliefs that made her kill her child.
Jule Sourjohn · Dallas, Oregon · November 8, 2011 at 5:59pm
Christians do not kill their babies.
Tyler Hadley · November 8, 2011 at 6:21pm
Jule Sourjohn In most of the news stories ive read, they claim that the person or animal they killed was posessed by satan and they felt they had to kill it or a deity told them to kill it. im not sure if thats why this woman killed her baby but my point is religious beliefs can make people commit crimes like this. look at what the muslims did on 9/11
Jule Sourjohn · Dallas, Oregon · November 8, 2011 at 6:33pm
Tyler Hadley Muslims are not Christians. And people who kill and say Satan told them to do it are usually mentally ill and hear voices in their heads.
Tracy O'Campo · November 8, 2011 at 6:38pm
Tyler Hadley, no her religious beliefs had nothing to do with it. I'd say it was her LACK of religious beliefs.
Jule Sourjohn · Dallas, Oregon · November 8, 2011 at 6:39pm
Tyler Hadley · November 8, 2011 at 6:41pm
Jule Sourjohn religion starts to control people and what they do and that makes people mentally ill. thats my opinion.
Jule Sourjohn · Dallas, Oregon · November 8, 2011 at 6:48pm
Tyler Hadley and everyone is entitled to their opinion. :) But true believers in God, not religion,(and there is a difference) are not the killers.
Albert N Ashley Torres · Owner at Owner/Operator of Inside &out Clean-ups & Hauling · November 9, 2011 at 1:20am
new flash tyler, no human will ever b an angel, r has been an angel. this lady has mental issues. if she knew the Jesus Christ I kno,she wouldnt have ever done this. just becuz she wrks at a place that sound chruchy doesnt make her a christian, or even make any sense. this is a sad story due to the fact she felt the need to kill. But sad as this is, make no mistake about it. God is good & that baby is in heaven (not as an angel/kid with wings or anything eles that makes no sense), heavy duty christians are in to feeding the needy, healing the sick,speaking the good news of Jesus Christ to all ends of the world.
Albert N Ashley Torres · Owner at Owner/Operator of Inside &out Clean-ups & Hauling · November 9, 2011 at 1:23am
Tracy O'Campo rather then a lack of religious beliefs, its the lack of relationship with the Lord.
Danielle Roth · None · November 9, 2011 at 10:36am
Tyler Hadley they are not real christians to do those things
Tyler Hadley · November 9, 2011 at 3:32pm
for all of you who think christians don't kill babies, look up Andrea Yates. she was the Houston woman who drowned her kids in the bathtub because her pastor had told her that children automatically go to Heaven and she didn't want to risk that they might grow up and end up in Hell instead.
Tyler Hadley · November 9, 2011 at 3:34pm
and saying god is real is like saying the tooth fairy is real. they are both fake.
Jule Sourjohn · Dallas, Oregon · November 9, 2011 at 4:59pm
Tyler Hadley like I said, everyone is entitled to their opinion. MY God is real. Tooth fairy is not.
Albert N Ashley Torres · Owner at Owner/Operator of Inside &out Clean-ups & Hauling · November 9, 2011 at 8:33pm
Tyler Hadley .ok so its clear that you aren't clear on history. its a fact that Jesus Christ walked the earth. died was risen from the dead & was seen by thousands after. Yes there are stories of people doing countless things. in all walks of life some in the so called name of God. The truth is that there is two Gods one whom is above all, Jesus Christ w/ a capital 'G' & the god of this fallen world.. satan. the truth is that everyone knows there is more out there then day to day. the choice is yours to serve Jesus who gave His life to you, because of an never ending Love for you. or to reject that Jesus died for you. the good news you hear that christians have is that the Lord took care of the sin problem made by the choice of adam & eve.Jesus made the way for us to be free from sin, by giving His life in place for ours!! the answers are not far. the Bible has been proven fact & history I hope you choose life choose Jesus.
Tyler Hadley · November 9, 2011 at 8:52pm
Albert N Ashley Torres its impossible for me to believe that there is a so called god in the clouds. it completely defies scientific laws. if he jumps right in front of me and says he's the real deal, i might believe it but until that happens, i remain an atheist.
Robin Ray · Top Commenter · November 10, 2011 at 3:37pm
Alexandria Newlin · November 13, 2011 at 12:47pm
Albert N Ashley Torres It is a proven fact that he walked the earth? Last time I checked the bible is not considered historical fact, but a book of stories, which are fiction. It is non-fiction only to those who read it that way and interpret it to follow there belief systems. Don't tell me to read it, been there, done that. Also would like to know where is the historical proof any of this happened since you feel so strongly about it? All I see is a book written by different people. Maybe they wrote it as more of a dream world, or perhaps a scare tactic.
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:37pm
Tyler Hadley Yes, my daddy f'ed me over and over and I loved it.
Tyler Hadley · November 20, 2011 at 9:00pm
Robin Cowley that is gross and it has nothing to do with the subject.
Tyler Hadley · November 27, 2011 at 8:47pm
Alexandria Newlin thanks for the backup. :)
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Nicole Friedrich · Works at Jeff's Cattle Co. · November 8, 2011 at 5:55pm
This makes me sick! This is where capital punishment comes in handy.
Sadie Phipps · Central Valley High · November 9, 2011 at 2:32pm
that's disgusting. she starved the poor baby!
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Shasta Connect · Shasta College · November 8, 2011 at 9:49pm
She considered adopting the infant out, but decided against it? What made her decide against it! Sickening.
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 8, 2011 at 10:01pm
Patti Neugart Rhinehart · Adams, Wisconsin · November 9, 2011 at 8:17am
Robin Cowley
Ya..there has to be one "sicko" on here...maybe it should have hapened to you~GROW UP!!
Angela Paulsen · November 9, 2011 at 10:36am
Some people are so selfish!!
Robin Ray · Top Commenter · November 10, 2011 at 3:36pm
Robin Cowley what is awesome you sickF...
Amanda Porras · Caregiver at IHSS · November 10, 2011 at 6:33pm
It's so sad how some people don't care about a life.I don't get it.So many women who want a child but can not,yet there is people like this who should not be able to bare a life.
Cycleryusa Jason Reynolds · Bike Mechanic at Bike Mechanic · November 17, 2011 at 8:40pm
Robin you think everything is awesome. I am happy U are over your infatuation with me. That's awesome too.
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Dwayne Walker · University of South Florida · November 9, 2011 at 6:02am
I don't believe the school is entirely innocent. These unlicensed boarding schools have proven to be hotbeds of abuse.
Rachel Oropeza · Server/Hostess at IHOP · November 10, 2011 at 2:39am
I dont know much about Boarding Schools outside of this one...but this one is perfect!!!!It sucks being there at the time...yes...because youre cut off from all you know...but they do the best they possibly can to take care of us...I would know...I was a Student...and it helped me turn my life around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!All I'm saying is....read up or shut up.No disrespect it just really upsets me when people target JYA as a school of that sort...we are given an opportunity of LIFE there...and what we choose after JYA is our Choice...but we all live it through.
Dwayne Walker · University of South Florida · November 10, 2011 at 7:40am
I'm in the business, so to speak. We're planning a convention of survivors from different boarding schools, some fundamentalist Christian and some not, and this story is not an uncommon one. Girls have attempted suicide just to get out. Many of them use deceiving tactics to get the parents to enroll their kids. Very few teens choose to go to these places of their own free will and it's not necessary to even have a drug related problem. Just thinking different can land you in a teen gulag. I've heard way too many stories and experienced too much to let JYA off the hook until the investigation is complete and we see just how well they cooperate with it.
Emily Carrera · November 11, 2011 at 9:15pm
I've always said for many years that this "boarding school" should be closed and now another story. I am a victim from the school. I didn't choose to go there, and nor did I choose to have them do the things they did. I know so many people that had worse than me. I wish I could file a suit against them and finally have a word and come face to face and actually be able to speak with out them speaking over me or having a "NO TALK" be written on my badge!
Dwayne Walker · University of South Florida · November 12, 2011 at 6:20am
Emily Schneider Carrera Check out this site. We're in Southern California and we've been able to garner some national attention at ABC News and Mother Jones.
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Nina Barbour · Works at 17th Street Cafe · November 12, 2011 at 9:58pm
People make their own decisions and as we know every individual makes their own choices. Of course there are many unanswered questions right now regarding this case but this case is about the death/murder of the infant. This is not a case about the quality of the school. The reason why I am posting this is because this school saved my life. There is absolutely no way that I would be alive if it weren't for this program. To this day I continue to stay in contact with almost every staff as well as visit as often as I can- I know this place very well. Unlike many other programs in the United States(which I can say because I have been to others) this one is based on disciplining in LOVE not discipline by abuse(verbally or physically). YES I understand that what Jessica did is absolutely against those beliefs BUT the school and other... administrators have NOTHING to do with what she did. As we saw in all the articles Jessica kept her pregnancy a secret, she did not involve the others. I am in no way trying to defend Bradford, my intentions in writing this was to make sure you stay clear of automatically placing the blame on the school simply because other unlicensed schools you hear about have bad reputations. I get that you say we shouldn't "let JYA off the hook until the investigation is complete" but I also think one should not jump to conclusions that the school was involved. All we know is what was released and I will stand up against the negative things being said about this school because I know that they saved my life as well as many others and would never participate in something like this. People make their own decisions.
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Jodi Helm-Hobbs · Victory Christian Academy · November 9, 2011 at 7:20am
I wonder if she was a former student of the Academy?
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I confirmed through another article that she was a former student.
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Robin Ray · Top Commenter · November 9, 2011 at 8:04am
My God how can your just stave a newborn to death? Leaving it in an empty building so no one can hear it crying for help and only checking on it to see if it died yet. I cannot believe I am saying this but I am so starting to believe in an "Eye for an Eye" The same thing should happen to this very sick girl.
Dwayne Walker · University of South Florida · November 9, 2011 at 12:22pm
The question to ask is did they ever take this girl to a doctor? What sort of abuse and discipline took place at this lockdown facility that would have motivated her to keep her pregnancy silent? Believe me, worse has happened in some of these so-called 'boarding schools'.
Robin Ray · Top Commenter · November 9, 2011 at 12:53pm
Dwayne Walker I agree Dwayne I was just so angry about the baby.
Rachel Hesedahl · November 9, 2011 at 2:24pm
Dwayne Walker The story states she was an employee, not a student.
Rachel Oropeza · Server/Hostess at IHOP · November 10, 2011 at 2:36am
Dwayne Walker:I went to JYA as a Student;to clarify...there is NO abuse physically mentally or emotionally...theyre very helpful and that place gave me to tools to find my way through life in a healthy manner aside from the ways I had chosen before.She both attended as a Student and later as a Staff where this unfortunate event had taken place...I was Student with her and was there for a short amount of time while she was a Staff Member...nothing justifies the choice she made;it was horrible...and I am choosing to make no comment on the situation other than this...IT IS FOR CHRIST TO JUDGE NOT US.JYA is not a LOCKDOWN facility;the Staff do not abuse us/them...we were fed proper fulfilling meals...Home Schooled on a Program...and temporarily protected from the evils of the world while we learning to use our better sense of judgement...what we choose to do with afterward is our decision!
Dwayne Walker · University of South Florida · November 10, 2011 at 7:42am
Again, doesn't matter! Had she been a former student and couldn't cut it in the world and was thus accepted back as an employee? Not good! Even if that's not the case, this situation shows that places like these have very low standards when it comes to hiring help and need regulation or risk getting shut down.
Bianca Balboni · November 10, 2011 at 12:01pm
Rachel Hesedah. she was both
Emily Carrera · November 12, 2011 at 10:21pm
Rachel Hesedahl from the earlier reports she was a former student!
Emily Carrera · November 16, 2011 at 9:52am
Rachel Oropeza glad someone came out fine.. I don't think you should be saying that THERE IS NO ABUSE..that's completely false.. but you are entitled to your own opinion! sounds like someone was BRAINWASHED!! just saying.. I am entitled to my own. opinion!
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Gina Rumble · Great Plains Vo-Tech · November 9, 2011 at 9:14am
They need to put her in a closet and not feed her and let her die the same way she let that baby die!
Amy Everhart Lyons · December 22, 2011 at 10:56am
Then we can all be just like her!
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Jennifer Webb · Avon Representative at Avon Products, Inc. · November 9, 2011 at 9:56am
This woman should be put to death, she could have taken her baby to any Fire Dept. or hospital with no questions asked. Instead she let her baby starve to death alone, there are so many women out there that desperately want a child, and she just lets hers die a horrible death. I say off with her head!
Marci Richardson · Top Commenter · Manchester Community College, Manchester, CT · November 9, 2011 at 9:59am
May this Baby's soul forever rest in peace!
Tammy Garrison · Administrative Assistant II at Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde Social Services Department · November 9, 2011 at 10:11am
What a selfish, sick, poor excuse for a human being. Karma's coming for you chick!
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:36pm
No, we must have mercy and love for this beautiful creature.
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Laurie Taylor · Patient Services Assistant at University of Michigan · November 9, 2011 at 10:45am
I have a 5 week old granddaughter and I could not imagine starving her for 1 day let alone 4. Even though she put it in an empty building, how did she keep it quiet so no one walking by would her? There are so many people in the world who are unable to have a baby of their own and want to adpot. I agree with Robin Ray, "Eye for an Eye" - she needs to locked away somewhere without out food and water for days.....
Anthony Crues · Remington College · November 9, 2011 at 11:38am
IF SHE LIVED IN TENNESSEE SHE WOULD HAVE HAD A MUCH LOWER BOND AND COULD TAKE DRUGS ON BOND....JUST LIKE LINDSEY LOWE...GOOGLE HER NAME!
Torria Determined Finney · Inventory Specialist at Patrick Henry Community College · November 9, 2011 at 12:32pm
She checked on it for like 4 days? and w/in those 4 days she didn't feel any kind of human emotions to give the babey to someone who could care for it? Crazy as b*tch fo sho!
Cadi Saunders · November 9, 2011 at 12:41pm
God, so many horrible stories about child abuse. I pray for humanity.
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:36pm
Dont u r wasting your time.
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Rachel Hesedahl · November 9, 2011 at 2:24pm
It said she was an employee, not a student.
Alexandria Newlin · November 13, 2011 at 12:51pm
Other articles and people who know her stated she was a student who became staff
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Raven Withey · North State Independence High School · November 9, 2011 at 2:44pm
this is disgusting, but what I don't understand is how do you hide something like this from everyone? I mean not one single person noticed that she was pregnant and then all the sudden wasn't pregnant, and wasn't carrying around a baby? & how could NO ONE have noticed a starving baby crying? this is like the most horrible thing I've ever heard, some people are so sick.
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:43pm
what are u talking about? She didnt hide it for long.
Raven Withey · North State Independence High School · November 20, 2011 at 10:03pm
Robin Cowley it said the baby was born in september ? that's over a month, it was almost 2 months, not to mention the 9 months she was pregnant before that ?
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Nick Hyatt · Assembly Technician at Purity Pool · November 9, 2011 at 5:46pm
This is totally sad and unnecessary. I see where everyones coming from for sure and there feelings towards this woman. I just have one question are you sure you are doing everything you can to keep innocent people from dying? the reason I'm asking is because there's a young baby here in redding who needs a heart transplant and is going to die if she doesn't get it, have you seen one of those donation boxes, listened to local radio stations or read about it in the news paper and decided not to contribute? I don't know the family of that little girl but I'm doing everything I can to help save that little girls life. The truth is if you don't choose to help in some ones death your choosing to be part of it. Just saying.
Melissa Meeker Hyatt · Graphic Designer/Owner at Daddys Girl Graphics · November 10, 2011 at 10:45am
Brandon James Walworth · Pioneer High School, Redding, CA · November 11, 2011 at 7:20am
Sin knows no boundaries. The baby is in a better place now. Very sad.
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:42pm
How do expect anyone to donate their adult heart to a baby? Get real.
Nick Hyatt · Assembly Technician at Purity Pool · November 20, 2011 at 10:36pm
Robin Cowley are u dumb enough to think I would even suggest that lol and fyi she got the transplant and had zero % rejection
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Will Elliott · Works at UC Davis · November 9, 2011 at 6:12pm
I notice that a number of respondents here are excited that they might get to kill someone (albeit vicariously through the state).
Ohtana Kaeo · Federal Way, Washington · November 9, 2011 at 8:50pm
Thomas A. Farmer · Kansas City, Missouri · November 10, 2011 at 5:49am
The going-ons of children turning up missing and/or found dead is the copycat syndrone of the Anthony case, this is a backlash of how our legal system has failed to protect the innocent, and there will be many more to follow if the justice system continues to drags it feet on the increasing missing child cases...cause in the end, the public already knows that the fate of these children are done in by the hand of their own parents and/or family friends...it is a shame.
Janille Gendron · Lake Tech · November 10, 2011 at 8:08am
It's called Condoms, Birth control and Abortion. Get to know them!
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:41pm
guys dont like them. They always try to make them come off or say they tore or something. Use dildos they are better.
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Comments (http://http://www.krcrtv.com/news/29713689/detail.html) left for the above article, "Shasta County Woman Arrested For Killing Secret Baby; Infant Found Mummified (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=408123#p408123)" (by Kerry Loring; November 8/11, 2011; KRCR-TV), #s too many to count pt. 2/2:
Bianca Balboni · November 10, 2011 at 11:59am
Despite the circumstances, its unfortunate that we have to remember Jessica as this as well as her mug shot, and not the girl we thought she was. She looks so distraught, the look in her eyes pierces my heart.There are so many unanswered questions, the first being how could SHE do this? How could someone play it off for so long like nothing is wrong? Its out of this world. My prayers go out to all the students and family that were affected.
Athena Kulkarni · November 10, 2011 at 2:38pm
I don't understand why everyone is so surprised....I've been saying the staff at JYA are messed up in the head for years now! NEVER trusted them. Nothing they do will shock me.
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:35pm
Dont hate girl! U look like a terrorist to me!
Naiomi Dickmeyer · November 20, 2011 at 10:08pm
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Deana Dixon · November 10, 2011 at 3:47pm
There are no right words for this woman, this is an unforgivable act upon a child, there is foster care, there is adoption, or even the Child's father who apparently knew nothing about the baby, or other family...Children are our future, but we are so busy killing/molesting/raping and beating them we are not going to have a future generation.. Sick!
Mark Loring · November 10, 2011 at 3:48pm
someone should lock her in a closet with no food
Deana Dixon · November 10, 2011 at 3:49pm
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Lura Culver Kilpatric · Works at Lots and lots of places · November 11, 2011 at 7:42am
Look, I do not claim to be any kind of expert...but mental illness, and even post-partum depression can seriously affect one's judgement. Especially when that person feels that they are completely alone in a situation. I guess I am going to withhold judgement for now. My heart goes out to that poor baby, and to the other members of her family, who will have to live with this tragedy for the rest of their lives.
Janis E. Bridgeford Cross · Area Educator including Redding, Oroville, Ukiah and Fort Bragg. at DCI (Dialysis Clinics Inc) · November 11, 2011 at 7:51am
I agree, something isn't right here.
Lura Culver Kilpatric · Works at Lots and lots of places · November 11, 2011 at 2:58pm
Brad, who are you and why are you stalking me?
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:39pm
Lura Culver Kilpatric I like talking to u. U look like a terrorist. That turns me on.
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Bernice Viehmann · Phoenix, Arizona · November 11, 2011 at 4:17pm
To the public: sorry for the harsh words. I am very upset, obviously, about this whole situation. This hit too close to home for me. I have lost 3 babies in my life. It is excruciatingly sad, because there are women who want to have a baby so bad and they can't because of some medical condition or whatnot. It's just a crying SHAME. YES, GOD IS HER JUDGE! not me, or anyone else here on this planet earth...........In this Life, though, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW! good-bye
Athena Kulkarni · November 11, 2011 at 6:39pm
When I see that girls are still brainwashed and support JYA it makes me so scared. That place is abusive. They took away so much from me and every day is a struggle because of how much they tried to break me down when I was a child. Someone please help me. I feel so upset that even now some people are supporting Bradford and saying we all loved her. I DID NOT! She treated me like I was less than human. If there is anything you can do to help me email [email protected]. I need closure. If JYA can be shut down I'll finally have peace again and so will so many other girls that confide in me.
Alexandria Newlin · November 13, 2011 at 12:50pm
are you on fb? there are pages/group you can join to talk about these things JYA Survivors is one with a lot of others in your same situation, and of course Julian Youth Academy has a page.
Athena Kulkarni · November 14, 2011 at 4:21pm
thankyou so much..ill look into it
Rachel Oropeza · Server/Hostess at IHOP · November 15, 2011 at 4:03am
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Michelle Lavoy · Redding, California · November 11, 2011 at 7:32pm
SHE SHOULDn't LAST LONG IN JAIL....TOO MANY MOMS LOCKED UP AWAY FROM THEIR KIDS WONT PUT UP WITH THAT.
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:40pm
Sure, like U know. She will last a long time.
Michelle Lavoy · Redding, California · November 23, 2011 at 2:29pm
Robin Cowley WHY ARE U EVEN HERE ?? UR COMMENTS SUCK AND NOBODY EVEN LIKES U !!
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Dionne Lake · November 12, 2011 at 11:42pm
I went to this "school." I refuse to call it a school. The place is run by an organization called "teenrescue". They had a facebook page where they talked about how they accept all these types of troubled teens with problems ranging from self-mutilation to adoption to drug use, etc. But they don't even have the proper kind of staff to care for these teens, and it just is sickening. Look at this girl for instance. I know her. She was a student as well. She went in there bc she had all types of issues, she was considered to be a teen that they could supposedly rescue. Looks like they missed the mark, huh? And then right after she "graduated" the program, they let her become a staff member and take care of the other teens that these unsuspecting parents are paying the school to rescue. She had absolutely no qualifications... to be in that position. A lot of former students at the school, like me, have been asking the owner of the program for years about why he doesn't make it a requirement for the staff he hires to be licensed by the state, or to have better qualifcations to care for the girls there. Googe Julian Youth Academy and you'll see that there were people asking him these questions and sharing their concerns as far back as 2008 on an LA Times site! He totally dismissed their concerns! Unbelievable! And now this happens! It is so sick and so sad. Those poor kids that are getting placed in this program are in danger in my opinion. Look who cares for them. This woman. So twisted. If I were a parent with my child in that place, Id be demanding my money back. There are a lot of people who are writing the owner, Phil Ludwig, on a private Facebook page and asking him what is going on with his lax in standards over there. I told everyone that they needed to start writing their questions to him on pages that aren't private. These issues need to be made public. So right now I am asking Phil to be honest and open about what kinds of teens he accepts at Julian Youth Academy. What is he telling parents that he can do for those teens? And most importantly, what kind of care is he providing them? His website has been "under maintenace" since this happen, and I want to know why. Is he rethinking the page on his website that lists the requirements to get employed to work here? I sure hope so. I'd like some answers.
Robin Cowley · Top Commenter · Redding, California · November 20, 2011 at 8:39pm
Well, nobody really cares about anyone they cant f*k anyways. Thats the facts. Either u make them money or you f*k them, if not U are a worthless person to them.
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Kathy Diggins · Nurse at Corrections · December 7, 2011 at 6:27pm
@Robin, are you picking your nose or what.
Maximumrider Groves · Top Commenter · December 22, 2011 at 10:16pm
a nd yet, people are anti death penalty. some crimes cry for the dp. this is one of them.
Lynn Houts · December 22, 2011 at 10:37pm
That chic is really sick, a real freak and I think it would be best if she is kept far, far away from others.
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UPDATED: Woman accused of killing her infant let baby girl die from neglect, detectives say (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/08/woman-accused-killing-her-infant/)
By Sean Longoria, Scott Mobley
Posted November 8, 2011 at 9:24 a.m., updated November 8, 2011 at 4:43 p.m.
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Jessica Bradford
Shasta County Sheriff's deputies have arrested a woman who they said let her 4-day-old daughter die from neglect.
Investigators found the baby girl's body Sunday afternoon at the Julian Youth Academy on the 12000 block of Tintagel Lane in Whitmore after a school employee alerted authorities.
Deputies Monday arrested the infant's mother, 23-year-old Jessica Bradford, on suspicion of murder and willful harm to a child.
Sheriff's detectives said Tuesday that Bradford gave birth to the girl in mid-September and the baby died about four days later. Bradford initially told a detective the baby was stillborn but later admitted the girl lived for four days, sheriff's Sgt. Steve Grashoff said.
Bradford told detectives she hadn't told anybody — including her boyfriend of three years — that she was pregnant, Grashoff said. She said she thought about giving the baby up for adoption but chose not to, deputies said.
Bradford kept the baby in a vacant residence on campus and would occasionally check on it, Grashoff said. She continued to go to work, see her boyfriend and drove to Redding at least twice for personal business, he said.
She told Detective Brian Jackson she didn't feed the baby and tried to give the girl water when she cried, Grashoff said.
"She did not want to tell her boyfriend about the baby because she did not want to affect his life and her life," Grashoff said in a news release.
Bradford kept the infant hidden in a laundry basket in her room for about a month and a half after the girl died, Grashoff said. She moved the girl's body into a utility closet Friday after realizing someone may have seen the body, according to the sheriff's office.
Julian Youth Academy workers found the baby in a pile of blankets in the staff dorm room, sheriff's logs said. An employee called authorities Sunday to report the find, but the baby was gone when she went to check.
The employee who called authorities reported other employees had said they found the baby Friday evening. The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said.
Grashoff said the baby was in a mummified state of decomposition but was fully developed.
Bradford was a Julian Youth Academy employee, said Phil Ludwig, academy director. He declined to elaborate on her position at the Southern California-based, private Christian boarding school for troubled teens.
"This had nothing to do with the school," Ludwig said. "This was a private residence she rented, it did not directly involve the school in any way."
Grashoff said Bradford is originally from the El Cajon area in Southern California. At 17 she entered the Julian Youth Academy and stayed on as an employee after graduating, he said.
"We're very sad at the possible event that took place," said Ludwig. "Other than that we don't know what happened and we don't want to guess at it."
Bradford is held in Shasta County Jail on $1 million bail. Grashoff said she's scheduled to be arraigned Wednesday.
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Reddingite001 writes: November 8, 2011 9:35 a.m.
Very sad news to start our day. Why not give the baby to a family member or place the baby for adoption? This is a tragic heart-wrenching story. My sincere condolences to the mother's family.
FireCityCouncil writes: November 8, 2011 9:36 a.m.
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Pot_Hater2 writes: November 8, 2011 9:38 a.m.
Holy crap!!!...so freaking sad and sick all at once..
bluesbeach writes: November 8, 2011 9:41 a.m.
There should be a mandatory class people
take before having kids and/or getting married.
outsideofthebox writes: November 8, 2011 9:42 a.m.
When will humans collectively embrace the light?
thumper6977 writes: November 8, 2011 9:52 a.m.
saw her mugshot early this morning and wondered when they would post the story.
So sad for the child......but is in a better place now and in better hands.
sujeka writes: November 8, 2011 10:03 a.m.
This is terribly tragic. The poor baby has been robbed of its entire life, and the young woman who did this will have to live with the horror of her actions for the rest of hers. She must have been in a terrible, dark place to commit such an act -- my heart goes out to her, despite her heinous crime.
Trouble_In_River_City writes: November 8, 2011 10:03 a.m.
Look at that girl, this is what happens when babies have babies. ?
Peace ? for that poor child.
cal writes: November 8, 2011 10:05 a.m.
The RS disables any comments on child abuse cases, even when all the players are identified, but allow comments on the most abusive of all actions.
I don't get it.
here2day writes: November 8, 2011 10:08 a.m.
http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/ShastaCounty ... .sflb.ashx (http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/ShastaCountyInternet/Sheriff/Daily_Logs/11-06-2011.sflb.ashx)
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dudefed writes: November 8, 2011 10:11 a.m.
outsideofthebox:
When will humans collectively embrace the light?
[/list][/size]Which light are you referring to?[/list]
justcurious writes: November 8, 2011 10:15 a.m.
omg so so sad :( I wonder how old the baby was....
sdj writes: November 8, 2011 10:15 a.m.
Oh my goodness! What a horrific tragedy for the lil baby. I do not know why someone would harm a lil darlin. We have laws in this state, to drop off a baby at a hospital, if ya think you cannot handle the responsibility of raising the baby. There is just no excuse.
Event_Horizon_Creator writes: November 8, 2011 10:23 a.m.
sujeka:
This is terribly tragic. The poor baby has been robbed of its entire life, and the young woman who did this will have to live with the horror of her actions for the rest of hers. She must have been in a terrible, dark place to commit such an act -- my heart goes out to her, despite her heinous crime.
[/list][/size]You must have more information than the rest of us. The article states that she was accused. Your post seems as if she's already been found guilty. What do you know that we don't? If you were her parent, wouldn't you want the public to refrain from such conclusions without all the facts?[/list]
Mushroomeater writes: November 8, 2011 10:35 a.m.
Why are we allowed to comment on this?
Redding.com...you have some serious issues at your place, ethical issues!
flytyr writes: November 8, 2011 10:38 a.m.
What in the World is wrong with these people?????
Reddingite001 writes: November 8, 2011 10:41 a.m.
RedBullVodkaRaver:
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)[/list][/list][/size]I always thought one was "presumed" innocent until proven guilty. The key word is presumed. Enough of that innocent until proven guilty stuff![/list]
mpete writes: November 8, 2011 10:44 a.m.
"The sheriff's office said the investigation revealed that the mother of the infant, Jessica Bradford was responsible for the death of her child. Bradford was arrested for an open count of murder and willful harm or injury to a child."
This was posted on KRCR, I am sure that the LE would not arrest someone and charge them with "WILLFULL" harm to a child if the evidence was not strong enough. It would be horrible to be the "grieving" mother and be arrested.
TheRealNorCal writes: November 8, 2011 10:53 a.m.
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Event_Horizon_Creator writes: November 8, 2011 10:57 a.m.
RedBullVodkaRaver:
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)[/list][/list][/size]Thank you for explaining the obvious. How would it sound were I to reply to this article in a way that would indicate that these charges are completely without merit? Foolish I'm sure. My original questions remain unanswered.[/list]
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Prissy writes: November 8, 2011 11 a.m.
Being a mother, a responsible mother, really would love to see this person go away forever. In my opinion, she deserves the same that she gave that little baby! How dare you. And I dont care if her "FAMILY" reads this because they probably feel the same.
primalux writes: November 8, 2011 11:01 a.m.
sujeka:
This is terribly tragic. The poor baby has been robbed of its entire life, and the young woman who did this will have to live with the horror of her actions for the rest of hers. She must have been in a terrible, dark place to commit such an act -- my heart goes out to her, despite her heinous crime.
[/list][/size]I am wondering about what kind of life this little girl would have had ....[/list]
momto2 writes: November 8, 2011 11:06 a.m.
Let's wait to hear the details.
Mushroomeater writes: November 8, 2011 11:10 a.m.
primalux:
I am wondering about what kind of life this little girl would have had ....
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Cynicalone writes: November 8, 2011 11:14 a.m.
Prissy:
Being a mother, a responsible mother, really would love to see this person go away forever. In my opinion, she deserves the same that she gave that little baby! How dare you. And I dont care if her "FAMILY" reads this because they probably feel the same.
[/list][/size]Oh good, we have something that the local drama queens can bother themselves about.[/list]
gungal writes: November 8, 2011 11:21 a.m.
I will never understand....we have been waiting years to adopt a baby.
YEARS.
why couldn't she just drop the baby at the firestation? Or hospital?
Poor baby girl.
SesshoumarusMiko writes: November 8, 2011 11:24 a.m.
Trouble_In_River_City:
Look at that girl, this is what happens when babies have babies. ?
Peace ? for that poor child.
[/list][/size]She's 23 . . not a "baby" by any means. She knew what she was doing. Sick.[/list]
I_Will_Not_Say_It_Again writes: November 8, 2011 11:24 a.m.
dudefed:
Which light are you referring to?
[/list][/size]I can tell by your tone where you want to take this post. You and the christian haters are so obvious. It is to the point with "you people" that we can make no mention of a loving God or any reference to any type of religion. Yes, yes, I know all about how tolerant you are.
You must remember that it says freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. It is the right to practice religion, not to restrict the practice of said religion.
OK. Now you can have all the fun you want. Have at it.[/list]
SesshoumarusMiko writes: November 8, 2011 11:25 a.m.
cal:
The RS disables any comments on child abuse cases, even when all the players are identified, but allow comments on the most abusive of all actions.
I don't get it.
[/list][/size]I know, right?[/list]
SesshoumarusMiko writes: November 8, 2011 11:30 a.m.
here2day:
http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/ShastaCounty ... .sflb.ashx (http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/ShastaCountyInternet/Sheriff/Daily_Logs/11-06-2011.sflb.ashx)
Pg. 20-21[/list][/list][/size]Hmm . . . still birth and murder are very different things.[/list]
maggieshan writes: November 8, 2011 11:32 a.m.
here2day:
http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/ShastaCounty ... .sflb.ashx (http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/ShastaCountyInternet/Sheriff/Daily_Logs/11-06-2011.sflb.ashx)
Pg. 20-21[/list][/list][/size]Thank you for that extra information. Sounds like the baby wasn't in the best shape and may not have made it. Let's not jump to conclusions until more FACTS are released.[/list]
sdj writes: November 8, 2011 11:33 a.m.
gungal:
I will never understand....we have been waiting years to adopt a baby.
YEARS.
why couldn't she just drop the baby at the firestation? Or hospital?
Poor baby girl.
[/list][/size]Exactly![/list]
dudefed writes: November 8, 2011 11:50 a.m.
I_Will_Not_Say_It_Again:
I can tell by your tone where you want to take this post. You and the christian haters are so obvious. It is to the point with "you people" that we can make no mention of a loving God or any reference to any type of religion. Yes, yes, I know all about how tolerant you are.
You must remember that it says freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. It is the right to practice religion, not to restrict the practice of said religion.
OK. Now you can have all the fun you want. Have at it.
[/list][/size]You are inferring too much here. For starters, you are responding for the original poster, are you sure that your reply is exactly what he meant?
Secondly, you infer from my reply that I am non-Christian-odd and wrong on so many levels. Please take a relaxing 10 minute break before repling in the future. Responding out of emotion rather than fact does not further any discussion rregardless of how you feel.
Please allow the original poster to explain what he meant, I know you mean well but you hardly speak for the masses.[/list]
SesshoumarusMiko writes: November 8, 2011 11:51 a.m.
maggieshan:
Thank you for that extra information. Sounds like the baby wasn't in the best shape and may not have made it. Let's not jump to conclusions until more FACTS are released.
[/list][/size]Sounds like the woman panicked. I hope she's not being charged simply for delivering without medical care. :/[/list]
I_Will_Not_Say_It_Again writes: November 8, 2011 12:06 p.m.
dudefed:
You are inferring too much here. For starters, you are responding for the original poster, are you sure that your reply is exactly what he meant?
Secondly, you infer from my reply that I am non-Christian-odd and wrong on so many levels. Please take a relaxing 10 minute break before repling in the future. Responding out of emotion rather than fact does not further any discussion rregardless of how you feel.
Please allow the original poster to explain what he meant, I know you mean well but you hardly speak for the masses.
[/list][/size]HAHAHA! Got your attention, didn't I? Thats all I wanted was attention. Call me a troll if you want to. My post could have been directed at you just as easily.[/list]
marianbeith writes: November 8, 2011 12:12 p.m.
am wondering if churches, hospitals & fire houses here will accept babies without crimal prosecution of the parent?
gungal writes: November 8, 2011 12:23 p.m.
marianbeith:
I am wondering if churches, hospitals & fire houses here will accept babies without crimal prosecution of the parent?
[/list][/size]Yes there are places marked for a "safe baby drop" fire houses, hospitals. Anyone can drop a baby and not have charges. I wish people would give their babies up more then this horrid thing:( [/list]
SesshoumarusMiko writes: November 8, 2011 12:38 p.m.
Yes, its called the safe haven law :)
isn10se writes: November 8, 2011 12:44 p.m.
I'm confused...was the baby still born or born allive and murdered? The article states they found a still born baby fully developed with trauma.
Definition:
A stillbirth is defined as the death of a fetus at any time after the twentieth week of pregnancy. Stillbirth is also referred to as intrauterine fetal death (IUFD).
Donthatetheredneck writes: November 8, 2011 12:45 p.m.
Ok so what I dont get.. The story says empoyess found the still born baby Fridy evening, but didnt call authorities until Sunday. Can someone explain that to me.
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isn10se writes: November 8, 2011 12:47 p.m.
isn10se:
I'm confused...was the baby still born or born allive and murdered? The article states they found a still born baby fully developed with trauma.
Definition:
A stillbirth is defined as the death of a fetus at any time after the twentieth week of pregnancy. Stillbirth is also referred to as intrauterine fetal death (IUFD).
[/list][/size]ok I read that wrong too...the baby was not fully developed?[/list]
AngieP writes: November 8, 2011 12:53 p.m.
Donthatetheredneck:
Ok so what I dont get.. The story says empoyess found the still born baby Fridy evening, but didnt call authorities until Sunday. Can someone explain that to me.
[/list][/size]I think it's a case of someone updating a story and then not going back to proof it to see if it made sense when they were finished. I agree with you: it's confusing. Can someone at RS please check the facts and then update/rewrite the story?[/list]
ImpishScoundrel writes: November 8, 2011 12:54 p.m.
Donthatetheredneck:
Ok so what I dont get.. The story says empoyess found the still born baby Fridy evening, but didnt call authorities until Sunday. Can someone explain that to me.
[/list][/size]even more perplexing... How does one murder a still born?
Something seems somewhat amiss with the story.[/list]
Moostang writes: November 8, 2011 12:59 p.m.
The Sheriff's log is what said "still born" on the initial report, my guess is after an examine they determined it was not a still born to make the arrest.
Be nice if the story was a little more clear for speed readers.
dacndoc writes: November 8, 2011 1:04 p.m.
"Julian Youth Academy is a Southern California-based, private Christian boarding school for troubled teens. Staff provide oversight round-the-clock."
Obviously the "staff" must have been watching the clock instead of her!!!!
Peaceful_Spirit writes: November 8, 2011 1:10 p.m.
Prissy:
Being a mother, a responsible mother, really would love to see this person go away forever. In my opinion, she deserves the same that she gave that little baby! How dare you. And I dont care if her "FAMILY" reads this because they probably feel the same.
[/list][/size]Your user id fits you well.[/list]
jnr8tr writes: November 8, 2011 1:13 p.m.
Why I even read these comments is beyond me! Redding people so quick to judge. Maybe this girl was scared? Maybe this girl was raped? Maybe she had no support system via Family or this so called "Christian" boarding school. PUt yourself in her shoes, would you have made the "right" choice? Article says baby was stillborn with a deformed arm. Apparently "god" interevened...get off your high horses and soap boxes for once!!!
thumper6977 writes: November 8, 2011 1:13 p.m.
If it were "Still Born" I would assume the only charge that can be taken is unlawful disposal of human remains.
Lets see what the rest of the story is.
jcgamer writes: November 8, 2011 1:16 p.m.
Sad, any way you look at it. I look forward to an update that can shed a little more light on this story.
BAW writes: November 8, 2011 1:32 p.m.
Let's not be too hard on her.
I read it as it was still-born, and she probably was scared and didn't know what to do with the ALREADY dead baby.
Icare2respond writes: November 8, 2011 1:35 p.m.
This article mentions "still born." This baby may not have been born alive so murder is maybe not the appropriate word. However, seeking help would have been appropriate. I am very sad for this mother, baby and the situation that put them in the place they are in at this time.
suku writes: November 8, 2011 1:37 p.m.
SesshoumarusMiko:
Hmm . . . still birth and murder are very different things.
[/list][/size]Yes but are those med students or what? I don't know if they are qualified to know the difference between still born and deformed or killed with mutilating violence. There's a lot of information missing here.[/list]
Prissy writes: November 8, 2011 1:38 p.m.
Peaceful_Spirit:
Your user id fits you well.
[/list][/size]That maybe true, but my children are still alive. Who is going to speak for this baby and make sure this "woman" does not do this again? They arrested her for murder, they must know something.[/list]
suku writes: November 8, 2011 1:47 p.m.
Prissy:
That maybe true, but my children are still alive. Who is going to speak for this baby and make sure this "woman" does not do this again? They arrested her for murder, they must know something.
[/list][/size]Whether you are the type of person to pray or knock on wood, please do one or the other. I would hate to see those words come back to bite you.[/list]
mpete writes: November 8, 2011 1:57 p.m.
"IF" the baby girl was a "stillborn" then they will be able to tell that upon an autopsy. If the baby took 1 breathe it can be found out that way.
"IF" she was still born, then why try to hide the baby instead of giving her a proper burial?
Peaceful_Spirit writes: November 8, 2011 1:58 p.m.
Prissy:
That maybe true, but my children are still alive. Who is going to speak for this baby and make sure this "woman" does not do this again? They arrested her for murder, they must know something.
[/list][/size]So quick to pass judgement. tsk tsk tsk. ANd LE knows everything right? I beg to differ with you. And I am in no way dissing LE. I have LE in my family and have nothing but respect for them. On the other hand, when someone like you spews poison I take offense to it. You were not there, you know nothing except what is printed in this paper. And here again, we all know how accurate these papers tend to be the first printing of a story.[/list]
sdj writes: November 8, 2011 2:15 p.m.
jnr8tr:
Why I even read these comments is beyond me! Redding people so quick to judge. Maybe this girl was scared? Maybe this girl was raped? Maybe she had no support system via Family or this so called "Christian" boarding school. PUt yourself in her shoes, would you have made the "right" choice? Article says baby was stillborn with a deformed arm. Apparently "god" interevened...get off your high horses and soap boxes for once!!!
[/list][/size]It did not state in the article when it was first reported on, that the baby was still born. If the baby was still born, it is a completely different story than what was implicated in the article at the 1st.[/list]
sdj writes: November 8, 2011 2:28 p.m.
I wish the story had the facts of the case before writing the article. The omission of certain details in the first report, led the reader to understand that this was a malicious murder. If the facts are not clear to begin with and it is based on speculation on the evidence and testimony of those investigating, then it would be great if that was emphasized in the article. Stillborn and murder are completely different.
MyBad writes: November 8, 2011 2:31 p.m.
cal:
The RS disables any comments on child abuse cases, even when all the players are identified, but allow comments on the most abusive of all actions.
I don't get it.
[/list][/size]In the disabled comments, the victim is still alive. This poor child is not. That's the difference.[/list]
Vegigardener writes: November 8, 2011 2:33 p.m.
primalux:
I am wondering about what kind of life this little girl would have had ....
[/list][/size]At least the baby would have had a chance. She could have droppedthe baby at a church or firehouse doorstep. This woman should never be allowed to get pregnant ever again.[/list]
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reddingdad writes: November 8, 2011 2:37 p.m.
jnr8tr:
Why I even read these comments is beyond me! Redding people so quick to judge. Maybe this girl was scared? Maybe this girl was raped? Maybe she had no support system via Family or this so called "Christian" boarding school. PUt yourself in her shoes, would you have made the "right" choice? Article says baby was stillborn with a deformed arm. Apparently "god" interevened...get off your high horses and soap boxes for once!!!
[/list][/size]Your "apparently god intervened" comment is pretty ignorant. Babies are born everyday that may have a missing limb or other problems and they end up being wonderful human beings that can contribute back to society. I am sure families that have children born this way are glad to have them! Everyone in your life must be so called "perfect" otherwise you wouldn't make such a comment. I know personally a little girl that does not have a "perfect" arm and she is more full of life than most kids. This world is a better place with her being on it. God should have intervened on your comments before you typed them![/list]
commonsense24 writes: November 8, 2011 2:44 p.m.
will she be released by five due to over crowding?
just being sarcastic..
may the baby rest in peace and in the hands of the almighty.
piperman55 writes: November 8, 2011 3:07 p.m.
That young woman had dead eyes. In my business we call it the thousand yard stare.
From the look on her face, she's seriously disconnected from her current reality.
Lillybee writes: November 8, 2011 3:12 p.m.
Were the people at that school aware that she was pregnant? Was she an employee of the school? Or did she just rent a bed in the staff dorm room? What was written makes no sense to me.
maggieshan writes: November 8, 2011 3:20 p.m.
Story from KHSL.
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Jessica Nicole Bradford
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Sheriff's Dispatch Logs: See Page 20
A Shasta County woman was behind bars Tuesday after being arrested on suspicion that she killed her infant child.
Sheriff's deputies were called out to the 12000 block of Tintagel Lane in Witmore on Sunday evening around 5:30 pm for a report of a dead infant.
The deputies located the infant and, they say, further investigation revealed that its mother, Jessica Bradford, 23 of Whitmore, was responsible for its death.
The cause of death is currently under investigation.
Bradford was booked into the Shasta County Jail on Tuesday and is being held on $1,000,000 bail.
According to it's website, the Julian Academy is a boarding school for troubled teens, ages 12-17. Bradford is an employee at the school. The deceased baby was found in Bradford's private residence that she was renting on the schools property."
Rosewild226 writes: November 8, 2011 3:49 p.m.
don't understand how a still born baby gets you arrested with a million dollars bail.
Prissy writes: November 8, 2011 3:51 p.m.
Peaceful_Spirit:
So quick to pass judgement. tsk tsk tsk. ANd LE knows everything right? I beg to differ with you. And I am in no way dissing LE. I have LE in my family and have nothing but respect for them. On the other hand, when someone like you spews poison I take offense to it. You were not there, you know nothing except what is printed in this paper. And here again, we all know how accurate these papers tend to be the first printing of a story.
[/list][/size]So, by you bringing LE up, might I assume that even though you have them in your family, you dont like them. Since I don't break the law, I have no problem with them. I totally support their use of force too. You can take all the offense to it you want. That doesn't bring this baby back that she hid for at least 3 days. I mean really. She is not a kid, she's 23. She knows the difference between right and wrong and this, this was wrong.[/list]
No_Really writes: November 8, 2011 4:11 p.m.
"...arrested infant's mother on suspicion of murder and willful harm to a child."
"...workers found a "still born" baby in a pile
of blankets..."
"The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured..."
Am I the only one that is confused? If the baby was stillborn and not fully developed, how can the mother be guilty of murder?
Lillybee writes: November 8, 2011 4:23 p.m.
This is a mess. I suspect that she hid her pregnancy at the school since it wouldn't be proper for an unmarried single woman to be around these troubled teens at a Christian Boarding School.
SesshoumarusMiko writes: November 8, 2011 4:34 p.m.
Just read the update . . . so she let the pup die so SHE and her BOYFRIENDS life wouldn't be affected? What in the **** is going on with people nowadays!
suku writes: November 8, 2011 4:38 p.m.
Wow. I feel sorry for this young woman. Doesn't know the value of life for sure.
Now ... how much did they say it costs to feed and house inmates? Hmmm, where's my checkbook ... got it, where's my pen ... ... Do they take debit cards?
thumper6977 writes: November 8, 2011 4:39 p.m.
Well, now we know the rest of the story.....poor little child.
cal writes: November 8, 2011 4:44 p.m.
No_Really:
"...arrested infant's mother on suspicion of murder and willful harm to a child."
"...workers found a "still born" baby in a pile of blankets..."
"The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured..."
Am I the only one that is confused? If the baby was stillborn and not fully developed, how can the mother be guilty of murder?
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If this was Mississippi or Oklahoma she could be charged for murder.
The "personhood" legislation, being supported by the gop, incited by the teabaggers and pledged to by Romney and Cain will make delivering a stillborn, subject to criminal charges. As will any form of birth control.
Rigidly enforced by the 'men' of the jurisdiction.
Get ready women, you're next on the extreme rightwing hit list.
Not sure what the motives, if any, are with our own Redding child killing scandal. God knows we've had our share,
But look for nancy grace, any moment.[/list]
Ol_Paw writes: November 8, 2011 4:45 p.m.
Mushroomeater:
Why are we allowed to comment on this?
Redding.com...you have some serious issues at your place, ethical issues!
[/list][/size]Up sure yer not smokn' them 'shrooms'???
There should be NO stories off limits to comments..
Like the REAL newspapers do..[/list]
Captain_Crunchy writes: November 8, 2011 4:49 p.m.
I wonder where those detectives went to medical school?
gungal writes: November 8, 2011 4:51 p.m.
OMDDDDDAAAWWWWD!
That poor baby girl died from intentional neglect!!!
She was starved of food and water and I just hope and pray that I get to be on the jury.
PICK ME!
bunky writes: November 8, 2011 4:52 p.m.
That poor baby, never had a chance. Made me sad reading this story.
Lillybee writes: November 8, 2011 4:58 p.m.
cal:
========================================
If this was Mississippi or Oklahoma she could be charged for murder.
The "personhood" legislation, being supported by the gop, incited by the teabaggers and pledged to by Romney and Cain will make delivering a stillborn, subject to criminal charges. As will any form of birth control.
Rigidly enforced by the 'men' of the jurisdiction.
Get ready women, you're next on the extreme rightwing hit list.
Not sure what the motives, if any, are with our own Redding child killing scandal. God knows we've had our share,
But look for nancy grace, any moment.
[/list][/size]Nancy Grace looking into this just might be a good thing.[/list]
Simmer_Down writes: November 8, 2011 4:59 p.m.
What a terrible decision she made, especially when there are so many couples who cannot have children out there. Plenty of options were available to her, now she must be held accountable. Tragic all around. I feel just as passionate about the unborn as I do about four day old babies. They all are a little life and are precious.
gungal writes: November 8, 2011 5:03 p.m.
Jessica Bradford
If you are reading thisI just want you to know.
You are a PITIFULL excuse for a person. You thought about adoption but...decieded to starve your baby girl to death instead of giving her to some family waiting and wanting a baby to raise.
SHAME ON YOU. You did not want anyone to know you were pregnant? Now EVERYONE knows what you are. What you did to lovely baby girl.
I don't know if YOU took the time to name your presious baby girl but I will be praying for her and have named her
Aziza(meaning mighty, beloved) becasue she was WANTED by me if no one else in the world(which is not true there are so many people waiting for YEARS upon YEARS for the chance to raise a baby).
So I will pray for Aziza and my three angel babies. She deserved so much MORE if only you had dropped her off at the fire station and walked away in the knowledge that me or someone like me would celebraite her and have LOVED HER.
Aziza remember your daughters name.
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suku writes: November 8, 2011 5:07 p.m.
Simmer_Down:
What a terrible decision she made, especially when there are so many couples who cannot have children out there. Plenty of options were available to her, now she must be held accountable. Tragic all around. I feel just as passionate about the unborn as I do about four day old babies. They all are a little life and are precious.
[/list][/size]It took more than one decision to kill that baby.[/list]
readytoroll writes: November 8, 2011 5:12 p.m.
Captain_Crunchy:
I wonder where those detectives went to medical school?
[/list][/size]Lucky for them, they did not have to go to medical school because the department has a forensic pathologist to examine the baby. Important to remember, not all the facts can be listed in the news paper. Never assume or read between the lines.[/list]
Transfer_Master writes: November 8, 2011 5:15 p.m.
I_Will_Not_Say_It_Again:
I can tell by your tone where you want to take this post. You and the christian haters are so obvious. It is to the point with "you people" that we can make no mention of a loving God or any reference to any type of religion. Yes, yes, I know all about how tolerant you are.
You must remember that it says freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. It is the right to practice religion, not to restrict the practice of said religion.
OK. Now you can have all the fun you want. Have at it.
[/list][/size]"you people"? Really? Just more proof that anyone who lives their life by a 2,000 year old book of STORIES, has the right to call regular folks.."you people". How simply ridiculous "you" think you are above regular folks. Just because someone wishes to live their lives in REALITY, does NOT give you a special right to spew your silly science fiction beliefs on ANY people that wish to live in real life. What ya gonna do, when your "god" doesn't answer you? Silly human.[/list]
Thatisjustsilly writes: November 8, 2011 5:22 p.m.
gungal:
Jessica Bradford
If you are reading thisI just want you to know.
You are a PITIFULL excuse for a person. You thought about adoption but...decieded to starve your baby girl to death instead of giving her to some family waiting and wanting a baby to raise.
SHAME ON YOU. You did not want anyone to know you were pregnant? Now EVERYONE knows what you are. What you did to lovely baby girl.
I don't know if YOU took the time to name your presious baby girl but I will be praying for her and have named her
Aziza(meaning mighty, beloved) becasue she was WANTED by me if no one else in the world(which is not true there are so many people waiting for YEARS upon YEARS for the chance to raise a baby).
So I will pray for Aziza and my three angel babies. She deserved so much MORE if only you had dropped her off at the fire station and walked away in the knowledge that me or someone like me would celebraite her and have LOVED HER.
Aziza remember your daughters name.
[/list][/size]you BOTH need counseling.[/list]
Simmer_Down writes: November 8, 2011 5:22 p.m.
suku:
It took more than one decision to kill that baby.
[/list][/size]Suku, let me rephrase so you can understand. What a terrible series of decisions she made...
Thanks for clarifying![/list]
Powerline66 writes: November 8, 2011 5:28 p.m.
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Odious writes: November 8, 2011 5:32 p.m.
gungal:
OMDDDDDAAAWWWWD!
That poor baby girl died from intentional neglect!!!
She was starved of food and water and I just hope and pray that I get to be on the jury.
PICK ME!
[/list][/size]Man you have a lust for vengeance, what god do you contact about that?
I know who I would contact.[/list]
Transfer_Master writes: November 8, 2011 5:33 p.m.
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Itsyounotme writes: November 8, 2011 5:45 p.m.
So sad, There are almost no words to say how sad this makes me.
OnTarget writes: November 8, 2011 5:52 p.m.
Prissy:
So, by you bringing LE up, might I assume that even though you have them in your family, you dont like them. Since I don't break the law, I have no problem with them. I totally support their use of force too. You can take all the offense to it you want. That doesn't bring this baby back that she hid for at least 3 days. I mean really. She is not a kid, she's 23. She knows the difference between right and wrong and this, this was wrong.
[/list][/size]What if this girl were a cop and did this? You'd be in a real quandary then, wouldn't you, not knowing which of your holier-than-thou, dogmatic judgments to spew.[/list]
moodywife writes: November 8, 2011 6:10 p.m.
What a sick "woman" why the heck would ANYONE do that to a child? I may not have a lot fo money, but had someone given me the baby, it would be well taken care of, I am sure as well that any normal person or people who can't have kids would try their hardest to give any child the life they deserve. I am sickened by this and I can only hope she gets malnourished/mistreated/disfigured and left to die the same way she did a helpless little baby. May you rest in peace Angel.
jjasper writes: November 8, 2011 6:14 p.m.
This school is for kids who have been neglected.
Now look what terrible thing happened because she was still neglected when nobody noticed she was even pregnant. What's up with the bf????? How come he was so oblivious?????
thumper6977 writes: November 8, 2011 6:26 p.m.
suku:
It took more than one decision to kill that baby.
[/list][/size]Totally agree there kiddo....[/list]
Agr8nurse writes: November 8, 2011 6:28 p.m.
I thank God everyday for my children's birth mothers.
dev143 writes: November 8, 2011 7:05 p.m.
How pathetic, and disgusting! I cant believe someone could be so selfish! Ugggghhhhhh What the hell is this world coming too??? Hope she never gets out, and without the death penalty so she will have to live with it everyday of her life!
davenjan writes: November 8, 2011 7:22 p.m.
I'm 63 and had two friends in high school. Each had a younger with severe birth defects. One girl was missing part of her left arm (just below the elbow); the other had no legs (if you've ever seen the movie "Silent Running", she operated one of the little robots from the inside). Both of them were wonderful people and very kind to others. So for those who wonder what kind of life this baby might have had...well, there's your answer.
suku writes: November 8, 2011 7:23 p.m.
Simmer_Down:
Suku, let me rephrase so you can understand. What a terrible series of decisions she made...
Thanks for clarifying!
[/list][/size]That's what gets me so flabbergasted. I could actually understand (though never condone) a sudden attack of frustration causing her to accidently kill her own child. But the sheer number of poor decisions is completely flabbergasting. Each day, each minute of her pregnancy, help was a phone call away. Each day, each minute after giving birth, help was a phone call away.
If she didn't want the baby to affect her life, I wish she'd at least thought about how prison would affect it. There are so many better options and so many loving families who would have cherished that little girl.[/list]
gungal writes: November 8, 2011 7:37 p.m.
Thatisjustsilly:
you BOTH need counseling.
[/list][/size]Why would I need therapy? Because I am waiting to adopt?
Or because I think of the child she murdered?
Oh wait it must be because I think adoption is a wonderful thing for all involved?
Oh no you must think I need therapy because I think this is the most pathetic thing to come out of Whitmore?
You tell me why you think I need help?[/list]
Lillybee writes: November 8, 2011 7:39 p.m.
She also didn't want the baby to affect the bf's life either. Since she has been involved with the school and also considering how isolated this school is, I think that the baby's father may well be on staff.
suku writes: November 8, 2011 7:39 p.m.
davenjan:
I'm 63 and had two friends in high school. Each had a younger with severe birth defects. One girl was missing part of her left arm (just below the elbow); the other had no legs (if you've ever seen the movie "Silent Running", she operated one of the little robots from the inside). Both of them were wonderful people and very kind to others. So for those who wonder what kind of life this baby might have had...well, there's your answer.
[/list][/size]The people who found and reported the condition of the baby did not know what they were looking at and mistakenly said it was stillborn. A "mummified state of decomposition" to someone who doesn't know any better and only gets a brief glimpse can look like deformity without closer examination.
I can only imagine the lack of belief and arguments after the baby was first seen and then disappeared from where it had been seen.[/list]
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I wonder if it's a rape baby
Damn Wayne,Is that all you can think of?
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gungal writes: November 8, 2011 7:48 p.m.
Thatisjustsilly:
you BOTH need counseling.
[/list][/size]I know you think giving a dead baby girl a name is strange....funny that.
Azia was a person. Her "mother" killed her and I am guessing her "mother" never gave her a name. I can't be the only one that thinks her having a name helps her be seen as a person. Aziza deserves justice.
Just as her "mother" needs to account for the thngs she did and did NOT do.
And Yes I would like to think the people on the jury will have the empathy for Aziza and how she suffered for four days after she was born and the nine months before.
Then was her body was left to rot for Sept, Oct, and a few days into Nov.
That's not vengengence that's common sense![/list]
Universal writes: November 8, 2011 8:07 p.m.
Infanticide, such as this, has been used as a method of birth control for thousands of years. In some societies, such as China, female infants have been 'put out' to die from exposure because the parents wanted boys. Now as a result, there is a huge deficit of girls for wives of current young men.
In the middle ages, babies in Europe were thrown out on the street to die by the thousands as a type of birth control. Now, we have legal abortion and pills in order to avoid unwanted birth. It's amazing how infanticide can still occur, even today.
theantidrug writes: November 8, 2011 8:42 p.m.
Trouble_In_River_City:
Look at that girl, this is what happens when babies have babies. ?
Peace ? for that poor child.
[/list][/size]She's 23 years old... not a 14 year old trying to hide it from her parents and a priest...[/list]
Mephistopheles writes: November 8, 2011 9:04 p.m.
I thought they had set up bins or something that you could drop unwanted babies into near hospitals, etc.
Another reason to impose mandatory birth control across the board, though.
Lillybee writes: November 8, 2011 9:16 p.m.
Mephistopheles:
I thought they had set up bins or something that you could drop unwanted babies into near hospitals, etc.
Another reason to impose mandatory birth control across the board, though.
[/list][/size]This school is so conservative that they believe birth control is morally wrong. Luckily, the personhood amendment in Mississippi was defeated tonight.[/list]
Mephistopheles writes: November 8, 2011 9:32 p.m.
suku:
Wow. I feel sorry for this young woman. Doesn't know the value of life for sure.
Now ... how much did they say it costs to feed and house inmates? Hmmm, where's my checkbook ... got it, where's my pen ... ... Do they take debit cards?
[/list][/size]I'd say she has a much more realistic idea of the true value of human life than most people do.[/list]
snavemom writes: November 8, 2011 9:39 p.m.
am sickened. All I can think of is that poor little baby girl being starved from the love, warmth and nourishment of her mother.
Something has got to be mentally wrong with a young woman so selfish, that she would let a infant die...just so she could continue with her life and not upset her BF's life.
Ha, hows that working for you now, Jessica???
snavemom writes: November 8, 2011 9:51 p.m.
I don't know anything about the school - so why blame the school? I mean, this young woman wasn't a child? It's no one's fault except Jessica's. She made a horrible choice. Even if the school is very strict, it isn't a cult, is it? ( I really don't know, is it?) She could of left couldn't she?
I don't get it. Now days we are always looking for some deep seated reason as to WHY some do the awful things they do, as if to justify it - that they had no other choice. We feel sorry for them. Especially if it is an attractive young lady. We just want to bury our brains in the sand. No one in their "right mind" could do something like this. There MUST BE MORE...
Nope sorry - the school, her BF, her family in So Cal does not need to bare her shame - Jessica has done that to herself.
There's nothing MORE to the story. A baby was neglected and left to die - by her own mother.
Nuff said.
BeeMarie writes: November 8, 2011 9:51 p.m.
jnr8tr:
Why I even read these comments is beyond me! Redding people so quick to judge. Maybe this girl was scared? Maybe this girl was raped? Maybe she had no support system via Family or this so called "Christian" boarding school. PUt yourself in her shoes, would you have made the "right" choice? Article says baby was stillborn with a deformed arm. Apparently "god" interevened...get off your high horses and soap boxes for once!!!
[/list][/size]I completely agree with you about people being so quick to judge, I don't think its just Redding but people are too quick to judge. However, even if this girl was scared that is absolutely no excuse to kill your newborn baby. There are so many loving people out there that would have been more than happy to take the baby girl off her hands. The article clearly stated that she didn't tell her boyfriend because she didn't want to affect his or her life. And even if she had no support system, again that is no excuse to kill your child. and the article said she was born mid september and died four days later and she was hiding it in a laundry basket for a month and a half after she died..the girl claimed it to be stillborn. Weather your child has a deformity or mental illness you are supposed to love it and take care of it just the same it is still a child and it didn't ask to be brought into this world. The mother brought her in and then made her suffer her few long days in this world. My heart goes out for this child and her father, and the mothers family. As for the mother, I really hope justice is served although nothing will bring back this poor little girl.[/list]
Cycotron writes: November 8, 2011 10:04 p.m.
There is something to be said about the school. Jessica was a student thats what RS posts. Good job teaching good moral ethics to your students :-
AlohaSpirit writes: November 8, 2011 10:04 p.m.
It breaks my heart to think of how that baby girl suffered! And the "mother" gave her water when she cried?! just enough sustanence to keep her alive just that much longer, to suffer just that much more!
How can a "human" do that to another? I just can't get my head around that. How that precious baby must have cried!
The perp was so wrapped up in her own little world that she missed awesome beauty of a whole new world. Is this how selfish our society is becoming?
pv96087 writes: November 8, 2011 10:09 p.m.
can honestly say I do NOT know any 23-year-old woman that would not seek medical attention for their newborn or keep their dead baby in a laundry basket for a month…
BTW the article does NOT say the baby was stillborn, it states:
Bradford initially told a detective the baby was stillborn but later admitted the girl lived for four days, sheriff's Sgt. Steve Grashoff said.
Disturbing and sad beyond words...
cal writes: November 8, 2011 10:57 p.m.
Lillybee:
This school is so conservative that they believe birth control is morally wrong. Luckily, the personhood amendment in Mississippi was defeated tonight.
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Glad to hear the "Personhood" bill was voted down.
This is another situation to prove that abstinence training is a bad choice for birth control.[/list]
OneOpinion writes: November 8, 2011 10:59 p.m.
Very interesting -- she works at a Christian school, apparently does not believe in abortion, but does not mind leaving her child to die alone. This woman is a perfect example of why we should have mandatory sterilization for some people.
heavy_metal writes: November 8, 2011 11 p.m.
The narcissism, apathy and evil of this woman makes her a good case for sterilization. There is not enough time on earth for the amount of mental therapy it would take to ever allow her near a child again.
omnipotentate2u writes: November 9, 2011 12:10 a.m.
wonder why they allow comment on this little girl's death, but we cant comment on the death of an alleged child molester?
lookagain writes: November 9, 2011 12:13 a.m.
How sick is this. She should be cell mates with Racheal Limon. Lock em both up for good and throw away the key.
Cycotron writes: November 9, 2011 12:21 a.m.
omnipotentate2u:
wonder why they allow comment on this little girl's death, but we cant comment on the death of an alleged child molester?
[/list][/size]The molester had a life, the baby didnt:-{ [/list]
StalwartVet writes: November 9, 2011 12:31 a.m.
I personally worked there at Julian Youth Academy close to about a year ago. I knew this women as a coworker and knew her boyfriend pretty well. I understand her stress from working up there and having a baby. They express to you the sort of image you need to portray while employed there. I personally had a baby girl out of wed lock and was told to NEVER let any of the students know of my "sin". For her being so far away from home, renting out a small house way up in the woods, and having only this one job as her source of income. She would have lost it all if she told the truth. I'm not at all saying what she did was right. She is an intelligent adult and should have known that those kind of actions bring about these kind of reactions. I am almost guaranteed that she this sad sad state of affairs came about due to peer pressure.
DrSeuss writes: November 9, 2011 5:49 a.m.
Julian Youth Academy workers found the baby in a pile of blankets in the staff dorm room, sheriff's logs said. An employee called authorities Sunday to report the find, but the baby was gone when she went to check.
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The employee who called authorities reported other employees had said they found the baby Friday evening. The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said.
So others at this facility found/saw the baby on Friday and nobody called authorities until Sunday? What is wrong with the people that saw this little one on Friday? Why didn't THEY call on Friday? Almost makes it look like someone was trying to cover up this whole mess. Could be wrong, but sure looks odd.
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HomeinTrinity writes: November 9, 2011 6:27 a.m.
In this country, 4 days after birth, it is considered murder. 4 days before birth, legal.... Something is truly wrong in this country.
JustALittleVoice writes: November 9, 2011 6:28 a.m.
suku writes: November 9, 2011 7:51 a.m.
DrSeuss:
Julian Youth Academy workers found the baby in a pile of blankets in the staff dorm room, sheriff's logs said. An employee called authorities Sunday to report the find, but the baby was gone when she went to check.
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The employee who called authorities reported other employees had said they found the baby Friday evening. The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said.
So others at this facility found/saw the baby on Friday and nobody called authorities until Sunday? What is wrong with the people that saw this little one on Friday? Why didn't THEY call on Friday? Almost makes it look like someone was trying to cover up this whole mess. Could be wrong, but sure looks odd.
[/list][/size]If YOU had found a dead baby and it was gone when you took others to see it, how long would it take you to convince other people that you really did see what you saw?[/list]
Prissy writes: November 9, 2011 7:59 a.m.
OnTarget:
What if this girl were a cop and did this? You'd be in a real quandary then, wouldn't you, not knowing which of your holier-than-thou, dogmatic judgments to spew.
[/list][/size]It wouldnt matter if she was the Pope. Murder is murder and she should be punished. My feeling is punishment should fit the crime, or match it![/list]
suku writes: November 9, 2011 8 a.m.
Mephistopheles:
I'd say she has a much more realistic idea of the true value of human life than most people do.
[/list][/size]You think so? I think that's crazy, but not insane. So. You gonna try her value system? Please try to spend it on yourself first, see how it works out.[/list]
famillerose writes: November 9, 2011 8:25 a.m.
What a way to ruin your morning. So many families would give anything to have been able to raise this baby. I hope this mother rots in jail, she clearly has no conscience. Just had to write my feelings down, somehow it helps.
33432 writes: November 9, 2011 9:34 a.m.
StalwartVet:
I personally worked there at Julian Youth Academy close to about a year ago. I knew this women as a coworker and knew her boyfriend pretty well. I understand her stress from working up there and having a baby. They express to you the sort of image you need to portray while employed there. I personally had a baby girl out of wed lock and was told to NEVER let any of the students know of my "sin". For her being so far away from home, renting out a small house way up in the woods, and having only this one job as her source of income. She would have lost it all if she told the truth. I'm not at all saying what she did was right. She is an intelligent adult and should have known that those kind of actions bring about these kind of reactions. I am almost guaranteed that she this sad sad state of affairs came about due to peer pressure.
[/list][/size]So she was a victim of her situation/surroundings/circumstances?
Quit trying to shift blame.[/list]
nickotime writes: November 9, 2011 9:55 a.m.
Think of all the suffering that a little guilt-free sex education, some family planning, and perhaps a little birth control would have saved. Even an abortion would have been far better than this.
Two victims. Truly tragic.
StalwartVet writes: November 9, 2011 1:18 p.m.
DrSeuss:
Julian Youth Academy workers found the baby in a pile of blankets in the staff dorm room, sheriff's logs said. An employee called authorities Sunday to report the find, but the baby was gone when she went to check.
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The employee who called authorities reported other employees had said they found the baby Friday evening. The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said.
So others at this facility found/saw the baby on Friday and nobody called authorities until Sunday? What is wrong with the people that saw this little one on Friday? Why didn't THEY call on Friday? Almost makes it look like someone was trying to cover up this whole mess. Could be wrong, but sure looks odd.
[/list][/size]That is very possible. If you read my post before this one you will see I was forced to "cover up" the fact I had a baby out of wed lock cause it was considered a "sin" and not a good example to the kids. Even though I was at the time happily married to the mother of my beautiful daughter and still am that didn't matter.[/list]
StalwartVet writes: November 9, 2011 2:26 p.m.
33432:
So she was a victim of her situation/surroundings/circumstances?
Quit trying to shift blame.
[/list][/size]I believe I stated clearly that I in no way condone her action nor am I trying to place the blame of her crime on anyone else. I stated "I'm not at all saying what she did was right. She is an intelligent adult and should have known that those kind of actions bring about these kind of reactions." To assume I am trying to shift blame is simply outrageous.[/list]
unknown7 writes: November 9, 2011 2:53 p.m.
this is absolutely disgusting and sad!!! why don't people know that there are safe surrender locations you can drop a baby of safely no questions asked.
missthing writes: November 9, 2011 2:56 p.m.
Poor baby girl.. If this mother had done this in Florida, she would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Hope she enjoys prison.
neverver writes: November 9, 2011 4:39 p.m.
jnr8tr:
Why I even read these comments is beyond me! Redding people so quick to judge. Maybe this girl was scared? Maybe this girl was raped? Maybe she had no support system via Family or this so called "Christian" boarding school. PUt yourself in her shoes, would you have made the "right" choice? Article says baby was stillborn with a deformed arm. Apparently "god" interevened...get off your high horses and soap boxes for once!!!
[/list][/size]No she was not raped she had a boyfriend of 3 years whom she loved... didnt you read it? It was his baby. and there was nothing wrong with the program at all it was christian and it was a greta place. and she had a HUGE support system. stop trying to stand up for a girl who was completely in the wrong[/list]
Mephistopheles writes: November 10, 2011 6:20 a.m.
suku:
You think so? I think that's crazy, but not insane. So. You gonna try her value system? Please try to spend it on yourself first, see how it works out.
[/list][/size]Oh, I don't need to do a thing. Mother Nature is going to remind humans of their actual worth soon enough :)
But I already know that human life has no actual, objective value - only a subjective one. And if/when I die, I'd hardly be a position to bemoan my fate, right? So of course the same reasoning applies to me.
People who don't deal in facts and logic are the crazy ones.[/list]
B3 writes: November 11, 2011 9:21 p.m.
Jessica herself was also adopted.You really could have done different. This would not be the first baby(child) on campus.We all are born imperfect for now and some just show their handicap more than others. All of us have a hart. 98% of the students love children and some of the staff.Better training to staff and less pressure would have resulted different. The final judge will be God.Staff and these young adolecences will need counceling and help. These "troubled teens" have been through enough. They are there to heal and go on with life not more drama.
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I seriously wasn't expecting to put a fucking four-day-old baby in the Pile.
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UPDATED: Infant found; mother jailed; deputies say 4-day-old baby died of neglect (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/08/infant-found-mother-jailed/)
By Sean Longoria, Scott Mobley
Posted November 8, 2011 at 11:38 p.m., updated November 9, 2011 at 3:31 p.m.
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Bradford says she she didn't tell anyone, including her boyfriend, that she was pregnant.
Shasta County Sheriff's deputies have arrested a woman who they said let her 4-day-old daughter die from neglect.
Investigators found the baby girl's body Sunday afternoon at the Julian Youth Academy in the 12000 block of Tintagel Lane in Whitmore after a school employee alerted authorities.
Deputies on Monday arrested the infant's mother, 23-year-old Jessica Bradford, on suspicion of murder and willful harm to a child. She was arraigned this afternoon in Shasta County Superior Court, but did not enter a plea. She is scheduled to return to court on Nov. 16 for further arraignment.
Sheriff's detectives said Tuesday that Bradford gave birth to the girl in mid-September and that the baby died about four days later.
Bradford initially told a detective the baby was stillborn but later admitted the girl lived for four days, sheriff's Sgt. Steve Grashoff said.
Bradford told detectives she hadn't told anybody — including her boyfriend of three years — that she was pregnant, Grashoff said.
She said she thought about giving the baby up for adoption but chose not to, deputies said.
Bradford kept the baby in a vacant residence on campus and would occasionally check on it, Grashoff said. She continued to go to work, see her boyfriend and drove to Redding at least twice for personal business, he said.
She told Detective Brian Jackson she didn't feed the baby and tried to give the girl water when she cried, Grashoff said.
"She did not want to tell her boyfriend about the baby because she did not want to affect his life and her life," Grashoff said in a news release.
Bradford kept the infant hidden in a laundry basket in her room for about a month and a half after the girl died, Grashoff said.
She moved the girl's body into a utility closet Friday after realizing someone may have seen the body, according to the Sheriff's Office.
Julian Youth Academy workers found the baby in a pile of blankets in the staff dorm room, sheriff's logs said.
An employee called authorities Sunday to report the find, but the baby was gone when she went to check.
The employee who called authorities reported other employees had said they found the baby Friday evening.
The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said.
Grashoff said the baby was in a mummified state of decomposition but was fully developed.
Bradford was a Julian Youth Academy employee, said Phil Ludwig, academy director.
He declined to elaborate on her position at the Southern California-based, private Christian boarding school for troubled teens.
"This had nothing to do with the school," Ludwig said. "This was a private residence she rented; it did not directly involve the school in any way."
Grashoff said Bradford is from the El Cajon area in Southern California.
She entered the Julian Youth Academy at 17 and stayed on as an employee after graduating, he said.
"We're very sad at the possible event that took place," Ludwig said. "Other than that, we don't know what happened, and we don't want to guess at it."
Bradford is being held in Shasta County jail on $1 million bail.
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The comments start to get a lil more unkind for this second Record Searchlight article...
Comments (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/08/infant-found-mother-jailed/) left for the above article, "Infant found; mother jailed; deputies say 4-day-old baby died of neglect (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=408119#p408129)" (by Sean Longoria, Scott Mobley; November 8/9, 2011; Record Searchlight), #s 1-20:
Cycotron writes: November 9, 2011 midnight
This means that she stashed the dead baby for over a month! SICK!
Lillybee writes: November 9, 2011 12:17 a.m.
I think that there was a lot going on under the surface that we do not know about.
pv96087 writes: November 9, 2011 12:42 a.m.
As a mother and grandmother it is impossible for me to wrap my head around the tragic end to the short life of this innocent baby... I can honestly say I do NOT know any 23-year-old woman that would not seek medical attention for their newborn or keep their dead baby in a laundry basket for a month and a half...
Disturbing and sad beyond words...
thumper6977 writes: November 9, 2011 12:57 a.m.
Pretty disgusting if I must say so. I can just see Hollywood coming after this one for a movie.
suvrocks writes: November 9, 2011 4:05 a.m.
This woman obviously has no feelings of guilt - a typical sign of meth abuser. I wonder if we will know if she is/was a meth user. Once meth kills that part of the brain, it will not recover, and all you get is apathy. So very sad - this woman NEEDS to be sterilized - as do most meth users.
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Equine_Fuselage writes: November 9, 2011 4:17 a.m.
Lillybee:
I think that there was a lot going on under the surface that we do not know about.
[/list][/size]Appareantly. For someone to ignore their pregnancy, not tell anyone, not feed your infant and hide the body for over a month! Yep, I'd say there's more to it..
For me though, this is so disturbing I feel no need to defend this situation or want to know more about her "insanity" or how horrible her life was. Even Crocodiles take care of their babies, and they are acting off instinct. This girl doesn't even have natural affection that cold blooded reptiles display....[/list]
sdj writes: November 9, 2011 5:41 a.m.
Man, this just sickens me so much. I cannot fathom how (especially a mother) or anyone could do this to a baby or anyone. There is just no reason for it.
She could have dropped the baby off at some hospital, fire station or church and left,without getting into any kind of trouble.
If all the evidence comes out to show what this article states as what happened then I hope they throw the stinking book at her!
Pot_Hater2 writes: November 9, 2011 5:49 a.m.
Nothing good is going to come of this.
Hope RS does this story justice, in future reporting.
SICK, SICK, SICK!!
sailorgirl writes: November 9, 2011 6:20 a.m.
"The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said.
Grashoff said the baby was in a mummified state of decomposition but was fully developed"
Which was it??
Poor baby, suffered for 4 days....I am going to be a grandmother soon, this story makes me cry.
sdj writes: November 9, 2011 6:38 a.m.
sailorgirl:
"The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said.
Grashoff said the baby was in a mummified state of decomposition but was fully developed"
Which was it??
Poor baby, suffered for 4 days....I am going to be a grandmother soon, this story makes me cry.
[/list][/size]Exactly what I was thinking.
It seems that this story has changed back and forth from murder to stillborn and back to murder.
I am too, so upset that anyone would harm and kill someone in the manner in which this article states. Complete torture![/list]
livelife writes: November 9, 2011 6:41 a.m.
As a mother I can not imagine giving birth to a child and not doing everything in my power to care for it! It truly makes me sick that someone could allow a baby to grow inside them for 9mon just to be the reason it doesnt live. This woman needs some serious HELP
worthlessvet writes: November 9, 2011 6:45 a.m.
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...
Evadar writes: November 9, 2011 7:05 a.m.
suvrocks:
This woman obviously has no feelings of guilt - a typical sign of meth abuser. I wonder if we will know if she is/was a meth user. Once meth kills that part of the brain, it will not recover, and all you get is apathy. So very sad - this woman NEEDS to be sterilized - as do most meth users.
[/list][/size]That's what you get out of this story?!?!? What world are you from?[/list]
ZombieNurse writes: November 9, 2011 7:08 a.m.
Under CA state law she has 10 days after the baby is born to surrender the baby to a safe haven (hospital, fire dept, etc) without question. Why didn't she take the baby to an ER, or a church?
TheKid writes: November 9, 2011 7:22 a.m.
Makes me wonder what kind of youth academy this is. How did she come away from it without the ability to make proper decisions? How do you hide a pregnancy from everyone including the boyfriend? Sounds like others are not divulging information. Post Partum?
cupcakelover writes: November 9, 2011 7:26 a.m.
can already feel the insanity plea coming... This isn't insanity, it's just plain evil!!!
sdj writes: November 9, 2011 7:26 a.m.
ZombieNurse:
Under CA state law she has 10 days after the baby is born to surrender the baby to a safe haven (hospital, fire dept, etc) without question. Why didn't she take the baby to an ER, or a church?
[/list][/size]Only 10 days after the baby is born? I thought it was, whenever. It should be at any stage of development, in my opinion. Only because, I think, that if someone feels they can no longer care for a child, or they are on the verge of snapping or whatever, there would be no fear of prosecution if they then decide to throw in the towel and drop off the child. I think that would best help the child from harm. But then again, it didn't seem to help in this case....[/list]
Tammohawk writes: November 9, 2011 7:31 a.m.
suvrocks:
This woman obviously has no feelings of guilt - a typical sign of meth abuser. I wonder if we will know if she is/was a meth user. Once meth kills that part of the brain, it will not recover, and all you get is apathy. So very sad - this woman NEEDS to be sterilized - as do most meth users.
[/list][/size]Studies have proven that women who are meth users do not bond w/their children like women who are not meth users. So your comment has merit if she was a former meth user, or a current user.
As a mother and a woman who lost 4 babies due to miscarriages, this just makes me sick to my stomach. I cannot fathom how anyone can do this. It angers me also. I wanted more children but was unable to. And she took her reproductive ability for granted. Disgusting.[/list]
lakester writes: November 9, 2011 7:34 a.m.
She did not want this to affect their lives? What is this a real late term abortion?
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lulubert5 writes: November 9, 2011 7:38 a.m.
As a mother and grandmother, I am sickened. I have a beautiful, loving daughter who is unable to have children. She would have been a loving, caring mother to this child. I am at a loss for words. And believe me, that's unusual for me!
pag writes: November 9, 2011 7:42 a.m.
What was the owner and staff of this christian boarding school for troubled teens doing for the month? Needs to be shut down.
suku writes: November 9, 2011 7:44 a.m.
sailorgirl:
"The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said.
Grashoff said the baby was in a mummified state of decomposition but was fully developed"
Which was it??
Poor baby, suffered for 4 days....I am going to be a grandmother soon, this story makes me cry.
[/list][/size]"The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said."
This statement was made by the people who found the baby. The baby was NOT stillborn, nor deformed. She was fully developed (whole), starved of all nourishment and passed away. She was kept for over a month after death and when she was found, she was in a "mummified state of decomposition," which, with only a brief glimpse, can appear to be a newly dead baby with deformities.[/list]
JKBlunt writes: November 9, 2011 8:05 a.m.
There are several hospitals and authorities to leave a baby with anonymously without repercussions. Unfortunately, she will pay for this action the rest of her life.
A baby neglected for four days, left to starve to death, how sad. I can't even imagine being pregnant and no one knew. I am a mother and grandmother. This is heartbreaking and now neither family or the boyfriend will ever know the joys of being a (grand)parent to this baby.
sweetdreams1226 writes: November 9, 2011 8:27 a.m.
Criminally, Mentally, Morally INSANE. In this day and age all she would have had to do was drop the baby off at one of the hospitals on one of her trips to town, no questions asked. Guess her life is affected now, I can only hope karma isn't kind.
MyBad writes: November 9, 2011 8:46 a.m.
"She told Detective Brian Jackson she didn't feed the baby and tried to give the girl water when she cried, Grashoff said."
This woman should be put away for life! If she wasn't feeding it why try to give it water! What kind of person does this?? It sounds like she's completely insane to do what she did! I really feel that is she pleads insanity it would stick. Only an insane person would leave the child like that, still give it water, and then keep the body for who knows how long if it hadn't been discovered! I don't think she even realized it was a little human being!
She stated she didn't want to give it up for adoption and she kept it after it died. There has got to be mental instability with this, and not just because of the meth.
JohnDixon writes: November 9, 2011 8:56 a.m.
I can't even begin to get my thoughts around this action.
sealaughing writes: November 9, 2011 8:57 a.m.
To those who are wondering about the baby's development: the Sheriff's logs reflect what was reported to the Sheriff. Since the baby was mummified, a person without knowledge of forensics might erroneously report that the baby appeared undeveloped, especially if it was neglected & dehydrated prior to death. Upon investigation, the Sheriffs Dept. clearly found the baby to be fully developed. The Record Searchlight is not always known for the clarity of their reporting, hence the confusion.
As to assuming the mother was a meth user: perhaps, but some forms of mental illness could have led to this tragic result as well. Time will tell; wait for the facts before speculating. This is how gossip and misinformation are spread.
crzyppl writes: November 9, 2011 10 a.m.
She is a sick and disgusting person. I have not an ounce of sympathy for this girl. I just feel saddened knowing that this baby suffered for that long. Only wanting food and love from its mother. As a parent, this girl sickens me. Punishment to the fullest and harshest degree needs to be taken in situations like this. What is it with all these girls killing their babies for their boyfriends?? What a horrible person...
outoftouchwithreality writes: November 9, 2011 10:12 a.m.
And the boyfriend didn't know she was pregnant?
I do not believe that. He should be investigated as well.
gungal writes: November 9, 2011 10:21 a.m.
There is so much in this story to be disturbed by.
Pretty much any new born thats needs are NOT being met is going YELL bloody murder(no pun) they are LOUD. For at least two days she screamed off and on and No one noticed(Baby girl would have become exhausted and dehydrated and weak) or heard the noise coming from an empty place? Whitmore at the end of Sept? In a vacant apartment? Cold!
Jessica is SICK to keep Baby girl a secret from everyone even the father.
That takes me to my other thought...Jessica is not fat how did she hide her belly for the last 2 months?
The father of Baby girl. If he really had no idea what his evil GF was doing?
Then I feel sorry for him he lost his daughter at the hands of her "mother" in a slow torment and stavation. He must be so ashamed to be associated with her.
All she had to do was set her down at a safe drop and walk away or chose a couple that would have been beside themselves with joy and love...but she "but chose not to".
So SICK, SO Creepy,..TWISTED. SO Pathetic that this woman was so concerned for keeping her lifestyle and that of her bf the same that she was willing to kill her own Baby girl to keep it.
HotGirl writes: November 9, 2011 10:59 a.m.
We have a law in this State where you can go drop your baby off at any hospital and legally walk away from it with no questions asked. Instead of starving this child, she should have put it in the car and gone to the nearest hospital. By law, they cannot even ask her name, but she chose to kill the baby instead!
We have these laws for a reason. It's for Mothers like this who do not want anyone to know they birthed a baby. I don't understand how anyone could sit by and watch a baby suffer. Clearly, she didn't feed it, bathe it, warm it, soothe it when it cried, up or do anything a normal human being would do for a baby.
This girl deserves to be punished to the fullest extent! She is not some 15 year old who is hiding from Mommy and Daddy. Even those underage girls can legally drop a baby off at any hospital. This girl at 23, knew she was breaking the law and chose to murder her own child. I say lock her up and deprive her of basic necessities! Many people in this world would have loved to have raised her little girl who is now deceased!
GODISGOOD writes: November 9, 2011 11:23 a.m.
wow... After having a stillborn baby girl myself at the age of 21, I feel sick to even think that someone could do this to thier child! There are so many mothers and fathers who would love to have a baby! I would have given anything to have my baby live and this is what she does with her precious gift from God! what a shame. Lil Baby girl Go fly with the Angels and my baby girl in Heaven.
Odious writes: November 9, 2011 11:28 a.m.
Equine_Fuselage:
Appareantly. For someone to ignore their pregnancy, not tell anyone, not feed your infant and hide the body for over a month! Yep, I'd say there's more to it..
For me though, this is so disturbing I feel no need to defend this situation or want to know more about her "insanity" or how horrible her life was. Even Crocodiles take care of their babies, and they are acting off instinct. This girl doesn't even have natural affection that cold blooded reptiles display....
[/list][/size]Crocodiles have been known to be cannibalistic, this includes eating their young.
Animals can be cruel, situations such as this serve to remind me we are still animals. Perhaps someday we can rise above, but this is still the jungle for the time being. Our existence much like any other animal is beautiful and terrible simultaneously.[/list]
Odious writes: November 9, 2011 11:37 a.m.
worthlessvet:
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...
[/list][/size]Oh yes this is a recent thing, all though it is an atrocity Human history is littered with the corpses of children and babies. Go ahead and try to connect it to your political talking points though, you would not be the first to politicize a dead baby, and you won't be the last.[/list]
Cynicalone writes: November 9, 2011 12:15 p.m.
crzyppl:
She is a sick and disgusting person. I have not an ounce of sympathy for this girl. I just feel saddened knowing that this baby suffered for that long. Only wanting food and love from its mother. As a parent, this girl sickens me. Punishment to the fullest and harshest degree needs to be taken in situations like this. What is it with all these girls killing their babies for their boyfriends?? What a horrible person...
[/list][/size]What disgusts me even worse is everyone like you one here who feels they have a right to judge someone they no nothing about except whats printed in the paper along with a picture. Enjoy your drama, there will plenty more for you to be angry about tomorrow. I guess we can count this as your contribution to society since you have nothing to offer.[/list]
sidekick writes: November 9, 2011 12:28 p.m.
Very strong and powerful emotions throughout our community regarding this article..!!!!
I have been sitting here in front of my computer, trying to express MY personal opinion for quite some time now and I can honestly say this: I, along with many other folks who have read and responded to this horrible, inexcusable crime, am feeling an overwhelming degree of ANGER!!!! It's very hard for me to not let that ANGER override/take control of my thoughts while posting this comment....
The part that I really want to comment on is, when, Jessica Bradford made the comment, "She did not want to tell her boyfriend about the baby because she did not want to affect his life and her life," that just sickens me.....!!
I do know this....Next time, KEEP YOUR STINKIN' LEGS CLOSED....if you don't want to take the CHANCE of becoming pregnant!!!!
Oh, and one final note....So, Ms. Bradford, Did this decision affect you/boyfriends life??
You should have just done the right thing....You surely wouldn't be sitting in county jail facing murder charges now would you????!!!
Prancer3 writes: November 9, 2011 12:38 p.m.
If she didn't want this little baby to "affect their lives"...then don't have sex, idiot. This girl is so beyond evil it is ridiculous. And no conscience either. Forget trying the insanity thing too...she had the presence of mind to hide the little body...which tells us she knew what she did was wrong. That little baby is in a much better place now...in Heaven with Jesus and no longer at the mercy of a monster. I hope part of her court ordering is to get fixed so NO other little baby suffers like this one did. Poor little thing.
buster6 writes: November 9, 2011 12:42 p.m.
Cynicalone:
What disgusts me even worse is everyone like you one here who feels they have a right to judge someone they no nothing about except whats printed in the paper along with a picture. Enjoy your drama, there will plenty more for you to be angry about tomorrow. I guess we can count this as your contribution to society since you have nothing to offer.
[/list][/size]So somewhere in this article you have found that kind words for this young lady would be what? the right thing. NOT!!!
Not with all the hospitals that this child could have been taken to. But to starve your baby and to throw it in a laundry ben like a pair of dirty socks is disgusting, whether she was mentally unstable or completely insane, or sane.
Including abortion, and I do not agree with abortion as a birth control, but it was an option through planned parenthood.
No excuse for this and she should be treated the same as her child. No food, no clothing, nothing until she shrivels up and dies.[/list]
Equine_Fuselage writes: November 9, 2011 1:39 p.m.
Odious:
Crocodiles have been known to be cannibalistic, this includes eating their young.
Animals can be cruel, situations such as this serve to remind me we are still animals. Perhaps someday we can rise above, but this is still the jungle for the time being. Our existence much like any other animal is beautiful and terrible simultaneously.
[/list][/size]Any animal has been known to cannibalize, abandon or reject their offspring. You failed to see the point that we have the ability to reason and have compassion, and have options to avoid horrific situations such as this.
In general a cold blooded reptile is above her actions...[/list]
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Cynicalone writes: November 9, 2011 2:04 p.m.
buster6:
So somewhere in this article you have found that kind words for this young lady would be what? the right thing. NOT!!!
Not with all the hospitals that this child could have been taken to. But to starve your baby and to throw it in a laundry ben like a pair of dirty socks is disgusting, whether she was mentally unstable or completely insane, or sane.
Including abortion, and I do not agree with abortion as a birth control, but it was an option through planned parenthood.
No excuse for this and she should be treated the same as her child. No food, no clothing, nothing until she shrivels up and dies.
[/list][/size]So you pretty much reiterrated the reason why I had to make my point. Its obvious you know nothing about mental illness, her or her family, and generally look for things to bother your self about. Gee I hope you dont call yourself a christian, Id have to lose even more respect for you. Funny thing is, I still wouldnt judge. Your hostility must eat you inside, its a very difficult way to live, good luck with that.[/list]
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Roxi writes: November 9, 2011 2:37 p.m.
I am curious as to what her family and the father of this baby are feeling. I mean really the damage is done I know there isn't anything that will bring her back but because she said she "didn't want the baby to affect their lives" I want to know why she felt that. Did the father say or threaten her over getting pregnant in the past, did her family? Not that it would change that what she did was a horrible horrible thing to do because I couldn't handle knowing my baby was cold and hungry, what a piece of garbage she is and she totally deserves what that baby had to deal with no food, warmth, or any kind of care. But anyway just wondering about the thoughts of those around her. Oh and I don't care if she had a mental illness, just because she had said she thought about putting the baby up for adoption and decided to keep her and killed her she was well enough to know she had choices.
Cynicalone writes: November 9, 2011 3:03 p.m.
worthlessvet:
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...
[/list][/size]Just wanted to clarify that us "progressive liberals" eat our children to spare them the suffering of living in a republican dicatorship full of Faux news, Limbaugh, Beck, and other people like yourself you like to spin every story to meet your hateful agenda. Have a nice day, Im going to turn on NPR, there is a cooking segment coming up! :) [/list]
mrbootyscratcher writes: November 9, 2011 3:41 p.m.
"An employee called authorities Sunday to report the find, but the baby was gone when she went to check.
The employee who called authorities reported other employees had said they found the baby Friday evening."
Why did they wait 2 days to report this?
malibu1369 writes: November 9, 2011 3:59 p.m.
suvrocks:
This woman obviously has no feelings of guilt - a typical sign of meth abuser. I wonder if we will know if she is/was a meth user. Once meth kills that part of the brain, it will not recover, and all you get is apathy. So very sad - this woman NEEDS to be sterilized - as do most meth users.
[/list][/size]Zzzzz. Really? And where in hell in this story does it say this woman is a meth user? Are you so far gone in your own little teeny world that this is always your response? Sadly, there are many countries that practice forced sterilization. Maybe you should move to one of them and leave us patriots that believe in our constitution.[/list]
malibu1369 writes: November 9, 2011 4:05 p.m.
worthlessvet:
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...
[/list][/size]ZZZzzz... Come on. Progressive Liberalism? Can you please define that as a technical, social term? Don't be an idiot. People have ALWAYS been people. We are all somewhere between good and bad, black and white. I am not at all perfect, are you? You may have not had the psychological problems that his woman obviously has but are you truly perfect, can you always cast the first stone?
Sadly this human, US and California citizen has been charged with murder and could get LWOP in a California prison. I doubt she was lying in wait with purpose and planning for this "crime".
This is a sad case that may well turn out to be about a human with a serious mental disability. Lighten up and stop blaming those you don't like, those you cannot even categorize...[/list]
Potato writes: November 9, 2011 4:11 p.m.
gungal:
There is so much in this story to be disturbed by.
Pretty much any new born thats needs are NOT being met is going YELL bloody murder(no pun) they are LOUD. For at least two days she screamed off and on and No one noticed(Baby girl would have become exhausted and dehydrated and weak) or heard the noise coming from an empty place? Whitmore at the end of Sept? In a vacant apartment? Cold!
Jessica is SICK to keep Baby girl a secret from everyone even the father.
That takes me to my other thought...Jessica is not fat how did she hide her belly for the last 2 months?
The father of Baby girl. If he really had no idea what his evil GF was doing?
Then I feel sorry for him he lost his daughter at the hands of her "mother" in a slow torment and stavation. He must be so ashamed to be associated with her.
All she had to do was set her down at a safe drop and walk away or chose a couple that would have been beside themselves with joy and love...but she "but chose not to".
So SICK, SO Creepy,..TWISTED. SO Pathetic that this woman was so concerned for keeping her lifestyle and that of her bf the same that she was willing to kill her own Baby girl to keep it.
[/list][/size]"So SICK, SO Creepy,..TWISTED. SO Pathetic that this woman was so concerned for keeping her lifestyle and that of her bf the same that she was willing to kill her own Baby girl to keep it."
whats even sicker is people are doing this all the time...it's called abortion![/list]
crzyppl writes: November 9, 2011 4:38 p.m.
Cynicalone:
What disgusts me even worse is everyone like you one here who feels they have a right to judge someone they no nothing about except whats printed in the paper along with a picture. Enjoy your drama, there will plenty more for you to be angry about tomorrow. I guess we can count this as your contribution to society since you have nothing to offer.
[/list][/size]Obviously you are under the impression that you are someone who is more educated and doesn't judge people based on their actions. I know what made you feel you are on a high horse today, but you are obviously out for a fight. You can come on here and lecture everyone for judging this "person" (a term I use loosely in this situation) yet you have done nothing but judge and criticize. The fact is that I don't care if she has a history of mental illness or abuse, the fact that she didn't tell anyone, tried to feed the baby water to stop it from crying, went out and did things as normal, and tried to dispose of the body after the poor little girl died, makes me think she knew what she was doing, but didn't care. I would feel the same way if this was my family, neighbor, best friend, or a stranger. The fact is that you’re an idiot for feeling you have the right to pass judgment on everyone else's statements while feeling yours are more realistic. The fact that something like this doesn't upset you makes me think you are the one who should not be posting on here. If YOU don't care, then shut up.
She admitted to doing all of these things. Meaning she thought them out had a plan and attempted to hide this, all on her own accord. She thought about giving the baby up but decided not to. Meaning she chose to let this baby suffer and die rather than giving to a facility that would take care of the baby and ask no questions. This in my book makes her a disgusting individual that deserves nothing less than what she gave.[/list]
lametrapper writes: November 9, 2011 5:15 p.m.
hopefully this blog will go away because it is an unimaginable act that i also cannot wrap my head around. i have to get off of this blog as i wont sleep tonight.
waganupawest writes: November 9, 2011 5:41 p.m.
worthlessvet:
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...
[/list][/size]"progressive liberalism?" is responsible for creating that monster? How so?[/list]
beckyp writes: November 9, 2011 5:50 p.m.
worthlessvet:
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...
[/list][/size]How does progressive liberalism have any connection with the fact that she MURDERED her baby. Murder and child abuse have been around a heck of a lot longer than liberalism. Hmmm, I sure don't see how politics is involved in this one... Leave your "worthless" comments elsewhere and stick to the point.[/list]
butterflylady writes: November 9, 2011 5:51 p.m.
What bothers me the most is the thought of a newborn baby so helpless to everything and yet she let it starve to death which has to be a terrible empty feeling in itself, not to mention how the body reacts when your organs are shutting down due to lack of food or water, you know she ate not only those 4 days but everyday since. She has an evil look about her lets only hope she meets even more evil.
overlyconcerned writes: November 9, 2011 6:10 p.m.
I love when these people leave their life info open for all to see. She clearly had no remorse with all the partying she was able to do even as her baby was dead in her laundry basket.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1526319439 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1526319439)[/list]
buster6 writes: November 9, 2011 6:13 p.m.
Cynicalone:
So you pretty much reiterrated the reason why I had to make my point. Its obvious you know nothing about mental illness, her or her family, and generally look for things to bother your self about. Gee I hope you dont call yourself a christian, Id have to lose even more respect for you. Funny thing is, I still wouldnt judge. Your hostility must eat you inside, its a very difficult way to live, good luck with that.
[/list][/size]Mental Illness???? Hello, I have a daughter that is border line special, and she would not do what this woman did. So don't go there and speak your holier than thou idealism.
And as far as judging, You seem to being doing quite well on your own. I have lost a son to SDS and for you that is called crib death. I would give my life for my child, not take my childs life.[/list]
suku writes: November 9, 2011 6:22 p.m.
beckyp:
How does progressive liberalism have any connection with the fact that she MURDERED her baby. Murder and child abuse have been around a heck of a lot longer than liberalism. Hmmm, I sure don't see how politics is involved in this one... Leave your "worthless" comments elsewhere and stick to the point.
[/list][/size]The original conservative was probably a parent practicing infanticide when given the choice between which child to feed from the last of the dwindling food supply. I am so glad humans have more or less evolved since then.
Though there do appear to be some major exceptions ...[/list]
suku writes: November 9, 2011 6:26 p.m.
buster6:
Mental Illness???? Hello, I have a daughter that is border line special, and she would not do what this woman did. So don't go there and speak your holier than thou idealism.
And as far as judging, You seem to being doing quite well on your own. I have lost a son to SDS and for you that is called crib death. I would give my life for my child, not take my childs life.
[/list][/size]If her defense aims for a mental health evaluation, I say they need to start here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCL-R (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCL-R)[/list]
OnTarget writes: November 9, 2011 6:28 p.m.
Cynicalone:
What disgusts me even worse is everyone like you one here who feels they have a right to judge someone they no nothing about except whats printed in the paper along with a picture. Enjoy your drama, there will plenty more for you to be angry about tomorrow. I guess we can count this as your contribution to society since you have nothing to offer.
[/list][/size]I find this girl's actions atrocious, and can only imagine that mental illness is the root cause. However, her actions are no less abominable.
What I find ironic is all the "mothers" posting here about their disgust for this girl. Surely she has a mother, or had one at some time, and I wonder how she feels. If you have such compassion for an infant as a mother, shouldn't you have some motherly feelings for a young girl who's clearly out of it?[/list]
gungal writes: November 9, 2011 7:21 p.m.
Sociopath plain and simple.
She needs her tubes tide tightly or put and put away for a LONG LONG time.
Anothercynic writes: November 9, 2011 7:37 p.m.
gungal:
Sociopath plain and simple.
She needs her tubes tide tightly or put and put away for a LONG LONG time.
[/list][/size]Must be looking in the mirror.[/list]
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KatzMeow writes: November 9, 2011 8:27 p.m.
suvrocks:
This woman obviously has no feelings of guilt - a typical sign of meth abuser. I wonder if we will know if she is/was a meth user. Once meth kills that part of the brain, it will not recover, and all you get is apathy. So very sad - this woman NEEDS to be sterilized - as do most meth users.
[/list][/size]When where you appointed judge and jury? You most certainly are not "God". You are not only ignorant but a sick individual yourself. You obviously have no knowledge about meth or the people that choose to use it. This poor child is not or was not in a sane and sound state of mind but that by no means says she's an addict. Without any kind of background history on this child there is no way for any of us to make viable honest judgements. I will pray for her and thank the dear Lord it's me or mine that is in such a horrible situation.[/list]
sealaughing writes: November 9, 2011 8:37 p.m.
gungal:
Sociopath plain and simple.
She needs her tubes tide tightly or put and put away for a LONG LONG time.
[/list][/size]So exactly where did you get your degree in psychology? Because I do have a bachelor's in psych, and this actually is a classic case of 'pregnancy denial'. Unfortunately, there has been little study into this phenomenon, but this girl meets all the criteria: hiding the pregnancy, refusing to inform the father, then refusing to care for the child afterward. Remember, what she says during interrogation may not actually represent her true state of mind; she might be saying what she thinks the police want to hear, since most of these women are extremely eager to please those in authority, and to preserve outward appearances. This girl is not thinking straight. Frankly, most sociopaths are smart enough to dispose of the body, so I have to disagree with your untutored diagnosis.[/list]
phi1215 writes: November 9, 2011 8:45 p.m.
I've never been to Whitmore, is there a hospital there? I am sure there is a CalFire or USFS fire station there, but it's possible to not think about one of those places to take a baby, a lot of people might only think of an active city fire station....
She could have maybe drop the kid off on a door step with a note like on tv, everyone has seen that, so you'd think that would be a better option.
She must have serious mental issues.
gungal writes: November 9, 2011 9:58 p.m.
sealaughing:
So exactly where did you get your degree in psychology? Because I do have a bachelor's in psych, and this actually is a classic case of 'pregnancy denial'. Unfortunately, there has been little study into this phenomenon, but this girl meets all the criteria: hiding the pregnancy, refusing to inform the father, then refusing to care for the child afterward. Remember, what she says during interrogation may not actually represent her true state of mind; she might be saying what she thinks the police want to hear, since most of these women are extremely eager to please those in authority, and to preserve outward appearances. This girl is not thinking straight. Frankly, most sociopaths are smart enough to dispose of the body, so I have to disagree with your untutored diagnosis.
[/list][/size]Nope intelegence is NOT listed in the description....
sociopath
a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.[/list]
gungal writes: November 9, 2011 9:59 p.m.
oopps for the spellin natzi's
"intelligence"
HotGirl writes: November 9, 2011 10:05 p.m.
Cynicalone:
What disgusts me even worse is everyone like you one here who feels they have a right to judge someone they no nothing about except whats printed in the paper along with a picture. Enjoy your drama, there will plenty more for you to be angry about tomorrow. I guess we can count this as your contribution to society since you have nothing to offer.
[/list][/size]You must be insane to write this to Crzyppl. We don't know her, but we do know that she killed a new baby! That is the truth! She has given the details of how she neglected a baby for 4 days. That wasn't imagined by Crzyppl. Your post had nothing to offer. Seems like you have major issue's. You must feel it is okay to go ahead and kill a human being if it's getting the way of your life. That's what this girl did. You have nothing to offer society Cynicalone. You just write nonsense to other people who have shown this baby more concern than her own Mother did! She is the victim. She was dependent on an adult to take care of her. She was deprived of that. She is the one who is dead! These reports that "disgust" you are straight from the Police who interrogated and arrested this monster! You act like this is all just gossip. The baby is dead! Quit wasting space with your ridiculous insults towards people who have real, logical opinions[/list]
gungal writes: November 9, 2011 10:15 p.m.
sealaughing:
So exactly where did you get your degree in psychology? Because I do have a bachelor's in psych, and this actually is a classic case of 'pregnancy denial'. Unfortunately, there has been little study into this phenomenon, but this girl meets all the criteria: hiding the pregnancy, refusing to inform the father, then refusing to care for the child afterward. Remember, what she says during interrogation may not actually represent her true state of mind; she might be saying what she thinks the police want to hear, since most of these women are extremely eager to please those in authority, and to preserve outward appearances. This girl is not thinking straight. Frankly, most sociopaths are smart enough to dispose of the body, so I have to disagree with your untutored diagnosis.
[/list][/size]"This girl is not thinking straight"
Huh girl? 23 yo? sounds like a woman not much of one.[/list]
Lillybee writes: November 9, 2011 10:56 p.m.
sealaughing:
So exactly where did you get your degree in psychology? Because I do have a bachelor's in psych, and this actually is a classic case of 'pregnancy denial'. Unfortunately, there has been little study into this phenomenon, but this girl meets all the criteria: hiding the pregnancy, refusing to inform the father, then refusing to care for the child afterward. Remember, what she says during interrogation may not actually represent her true state of mind; she might be saying what she thinks the police want to hear, since most of these women are extremely eager to please those in authority, and to preserve outward appearances. This girl is not thinking straight. Frankly, most sociopaths are smart enough to dispose of the body, so I have to disagree with your untutored diagnosis.
[/list][/size]I tend to agree with you. By saying that I am not excusing what she did. It was a horrible thing that she did and she should be punished.
I understand why she probably couldn't admit to herself that she was pregnant.
Her parents sent her to this school when she was 17 for whatever reason. This is a very conservative Christian "reform" school. For example, only Christian or classical music is allowed. Only Christian TV is allow. I am sure that they teach any physical contact before marriage is forbidden. After she finished the school, she was kept on as a staff member. Staff is also required to keep all the rules.
I don't believe that staff is allowed to drive into Redding alone and access to cars is limited.
I can understand why she hid the pregnancy and baby. I don't know she there was anyone that she could talk to about this.
IMHO this school knows more that they are saying.[/list]
right1baby writes: November 9, 2011 11:08 p.m.
she should not get life without parole. she deserves life with no food until she dies of starvation like that poor baby did. i don't understand these women who kill their babies. instead of teaching gay history, maybe schools should teach "DON'T KILL YOUR CHILDREN"
Transfer_Master writes: November 9, 2011 11:14 p.m.
WOW, I can't stand it when my puppy is hungry. HOW could ANYONE, just leave a BABY, in a basket, let it die. Again... WOW. The doorbell rings, a woman answers,,, A BABY! Our wish was granted! Let's Call it..... Happy endings to all.
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 8:24 a.m.
HotGirl:
You must be insane to write this to Crzyppl. We don't know her, but we do know that she killed a new baby! That is the truth! She has given the details of how she neglected a baby for 4 days. That wasn't imagined by Crzyppl. Your post had nothing to offer. Seems like you have major issue's. You must feel it is okay to go ahead and kill a human being if it's getting the way of your life. That's what this girl did. You have nothing to offer society Cynicalone. You just write nonsense to other people who have shown this baby more concern than her own Mother did! She is the victim. She was dependent on an adult to take care of her. She was deprived of that. She is the one who is dead! These reports that "disgust" you are straight from the Police who interrogated and arrested this monster! You act like this is all just gossip. The baby is dead! Quit wasting space with your ridiculous insults towards people who have real, logical opinions
[/list][/size]and Im the one with issues...lol. By the way those "logical opinions" are emotional reactions. Thanks for the laugh.[/list]
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 8:33 a.m.
buster6:
Mental Illness???? Hello, I have a daughter that is border line special, and she would not do what this woman did. So don't go there and speak your holier than thou idealism.
And as far as judging, You seem to being doing quite well on your own. I have lost a son to SDS and for you that is called crib death. I would give my life for my child, not take my childs life.
[/list][/size]Hey Buster, when you respond to response go ahead and read the previous thread. I never said she had any mental illness.
If its all the same, it doesnt matter what your daughter has, disease of the brain do not always predict behavior.
As far as my judgment, I would only condemn those who are taking issue with this woman. Funny how folks dont like the finger being pointed at them. I quite frankly dont care what anyone thinks of me on here. Ability to read, comprehend and empathize seems to be limited and apparent by the lack of questions being asked.[/list]
gungal writes: November 10, 2011 10:42 a.m.
Cynicalone:
Hey Buster, when you respond to response go ahead and read the previous thread. I never said she had any mental illness.
If its all the same, it doesnt matter what your daughter has, disease of the brain do not always predict behavior.
As far as my judgment, I would only condemn those who are taking issue with this woman. Funny how folks dont like the finger being pointed at them. I quite frankly dont care what anyone thinks of me on here. Ability to read, comprehend and empathize seems to be limited and apparent by the lack of questions being asked.
[/list][/size]"As far as my judgment, I would only condemn those who are taking issue with this woman"
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LoL you are judging anyone who does not have your own twisted...judgment. LoL
As in:
"Ability to read, comprehend and empathize seems to be limited and apparent by the lack of questions being asked."
And why do you take the time to post that if you don't care what people think...why are you putting down everyone elses intelligence?[/list]
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 11:29 a.m.
gungal:
"As far as my judgment, I would only condemn those who are taking issue with this woman"
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LoL you are judging anyone who does not have your own twisted...judgment. LoL
As in:
"Ability to read, comprehend and empathize seems to be limited and apparent by the lack of questions being asked."
And why do you take the time to post that if you don't care what people think...why are you putting down everyone elses intelligence?
[/list][/size]Wow a question! I will address this.
I am not judging anyone who doesnt share my point of view, that is an assumption on your part.It is fair to say that I am being extremely critical of those crying crocodile tears and condemning this woman based on what written in this story. They have no right to do so.
There is a very big difference between caring about what people think and caring what they think about me as I stated. I am only responding to the folks that have responded to me. It seems they are driven by emotions not intelligence since they keep reitterating the case, focusing on the suffering of the child, and cursing the woman with out having anything to add...except of course to make assumptions about my twisted judgement.[/list]
Vegigardener writes: November 10, 2011 12:27 p.m.
Hey wait a minute. This woman continued on with her work. She had the ability to fool everyone around her. She allowed her baby to languish for four days until this tiny baby girl died. She had the wherewithal to hide her daughter for weeks after she died.
So according to all you arm chair physiatrists she was so mentally ill she did not know what she was doing? However she was not so ill to continue on with her daily life as if nothing had happened?
Give me a break.
AT THE END OF THE DAY THE MOST INNOCENT DIED.
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 1:06 p.m.
Thanks for repeating the facts in the case. Who is the armchair psychiatrist(s) you are referring to and you figured out the result of story all by yourself..congratulations.
rocksquatter writes: November 10, 2011 3:30 p.m.
suvrocks:
This woman obviously has no feelings of guilt - a typical sign of meth abuser. I wonder if we will know if she is/was a meth user. Once meth kills that part of the brain, it will not recover, and all you get is apathy. So very sad - this woman NEEDS to be sterilized - as do most meth users.
[/list][/size]Well you're just a bundle of compassion and insigthfulness aren't you. Who do you think you are ...oh wait you've already demostrated that answer haven't you? You've already been the judge and the jury. Just one more task for you suvrocks....a little walk on water should do it for me. Meet you at the plunge and you can show me how rightous you really are (instead of how rightous you think you are...that I've already seen). Just a quick dash across the deep end will do in establishing you as the God you act like you believe you are.[/list]
rocksquatter writes: November 10, 2011 3:40 p.m.
suku:
If her defense aims for a mental health evaluation, I say they need to start here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCL-R (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCL-R)[/list][/list][/size]If you're citing wikipedia as a creditable source you have already failed to make your point.[/list]
Portia writes: November 10, 2011 4:52 p.m.
She could have brought the baby in to one of the local emergency room's and dropped her off with no questions asked...Sad.
thumper6977 writes: November 10, 2011 6:53 p.m.
I just got to wondering...WHO is the father? Is it her boyfriend that she was trying to hide it from? Was she trying to protect him? OR....
Where they afraid of having to pay child support for the next 18 years????
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I’m not sure how to comment on this. There is not a word that properly emphasizes how disturbing this story is. How did Julian Youth Academy not notice their staff was hiding her pregnancy? She was able to hide the baby on campus, dehydrating and starving it to death, burying it on campus, and no one raised an eyebrow? Can this program retain any morality by suggesting it should remain operational in light of what was allowed to happen on their watch? Unfathomable.
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thumper6977 writes: November 10, 2011 6:54 p.m.
Anothercynic writes: November 11, 2011 6:25 a.m.
right1baby:
she should not get life without parole. she deserves life with no food until she dies of starvation like that poor baby did. i don't understand these women who kill their babies. instead of teaching gay history, maybe schools should teach "DON'T KILL YOUR CHILDREN"
[/list][/size]Let me guess.....Fundamentalist Christian?[/list]
juniormint121 writes: November 14, 2011 2:30 p.m.
you are hearing one side of the story the prosecutions . you havent heard her story or her families. you know nothing about this lady so keep your comments until you hear both sides
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I’m not sure how to comment on this. There is not a word that properly emphasizes how disturbing this story is. How did Julian Youth Academy not notice their staff was hiding her pregnancy? She was able to hide the baby on campus, dehydrating and starving it to death, burying it on campus, and no one raised an eyebrow? Can this program retain any morality by suggesting it should remain operational in light of what was allowed to happen on their watch? Unfathomable.
She never did bury it. She kept the baby hidden in a laundry basket for about a month and a half after she died, moving her at least once at some point due to discovery by one or more staff members.
A few comments by "StalwartVet" on one of these last two articles from the Record Searchlight lend some insight. StalwartVet was apparently a former coworker and also had a child out of wedlock, and saw fit to point out that the pressure and condemnation by Julian Youth Academy for being in said circumstances was really quite extreme. StalwartVet appears to be a male, and is now married to the mother of his child. I imagine the pressure on him would have been considerably less (than that possibly experienced by Jessica Bradford) given his gender and the nature of the conservative Christian teachings espoused by JYA. I don't know this for certain, this is strictly speculation on my part, but I tend to think it has some bearing.
Also having some bearing (imo) is the fact that Jessica Bradford was a former student at Julian Youth Academy. I'm not sure how much (if any) time intervened between that time and when she became a staff member, but I do think it may have had some impact on her reasoning skills and ability to parse the relative importance of certain difficult decisions. I'm not saying that it in any way excuses what she did, but I do think it has contextual importance. For all anyone knows, she may still be experiencing a prolonged state of PTSD along with all its warping and emotionally crippling effects. It may have been the case that, for Jessica Bradford, subjugation to the "therapeutic" milieu had no end in sight.
Just sayin'... and just my 2¢, fwiw...
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A few comments by "StalwartVet" on one of these last two articles from the Record Searchlight lend some insight...
Two comments posted by StalwartVet:
StalwartVet writes (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=408149#p408149): November 9, 2011 12:31 a.m.
I personally worked there at Julian Youth Academy close to about a year ago. I knew this women as a coworker and knew her boyfriend pretty well. I understand her stress from working up there and having a baby. They express to you the sort of image you need to portray while employed there. I personally had a baby girl out of wed lock and was told to NEVER let any of the students know of my "sin". For her being so far away from home, renting out a small house way up in the woods, and having only this one job as her source of income. She would have lost it all if she told the truth. I'm not at all saying what she did was right. She is an intelligent adult and should have known that those kind of actions bring about these kind of reactions. I am almost guaranteed that she this sad sad state of affairs came about due to peer pressure.
StalwartVet writes (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=408150#p408150): November 9, 2011 1:18 p.m.
DrSeuss:
Julian Youth Academy workers found the baby in a pile of blankets in the staff dorm room, sheriff's logs said. An employee called authorities Sunday to report the find, but the baby was gone when she went to check.
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The employee who called authorities reported other employees had said they found the baby Friday evening. The baby appeared not to be fully developed and one of its arms was disfigured, sheriff's logs said.
So others at this facility found/saw the baby on Friday and nobody called authorities until Sunday? What is wrong with the people that saw this little one on Friday? Why didn't THEY call on Friday? Almost makes it look like someone was trying to cover up this whole mess. Could be wrong, but sure looks odd.
[/list][/size]That is very possible. If you read my post before this one you will see I was forced to "cover up" the fact I had a baby out of wed lock cause it was considered a "sin" and not a good example to the kids. Even though I was at the time happily married to the mother of my beautiful daughter and still am that didn't matter.[/list][/list]
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The Sacramento Bee
Sheriff: Shasta woman neglected newborn to death (http://http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/09/4043007/sheriff-shasta-woman-neglected.html)
The Associated Press
Published: Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2011 - 3:01 pm
Last Modified: Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2011 - 4:02 pm
REDDING, Calif. -- A Shasta County woman faces a possible murder charge after authorities said she neglected her newborn daughter for four days until the baby died.
Sheriff's deputies arrested Jessica Bradford, 23, on Monday after the child's body was found in a dormitory where she lived and worked, The Record Searchlight of Redding reported (http://http://bit.ly/sRUIkR). The baby had been dead for more than a month.
Bradford worked at the Julian Youth Academy, a boarding school in Whitmore for troubled teens that she once attended.
According to detectives, Bradford gave birth in mid-September without telling anyone, including her boyfriend of three years, that she was pregnant.
"She did not want to tell her boyfriend about the baby because she did not want to affect his life and her life," Sgt. Steve Grashoff said in a statement.
Bradford kept the newborn in a vacant residence on the academy's campus and checked on the newborn occasionally between going to work, socializing and taking at least two road trips to Redding, Grashoff said. Bradford told detectives that she didn't feed the baby but gave her water when she cried, Grashoff said.
After the baby died, Bradford kept the body in a laundry basket for weeks before moving it to a utility closet because she feared that other school employees might see it, detectives said.
An employee found the body under a pile of blankets and called authorities Sunday, but when the employee returned to check on it, it was gone. Deputies responding to the call found the body of the baby, which appeared to have been fully developed at birth.
Academy director Phil Ludwig declined to discuss Bradford's position at the school.
"This had nothing to do with the school," Ludwig told The Record Searchlight. "This was a private residence she rented; it did not directly involve the school in any way."
Bradford was being held on suspicion of murder and willful harm to a child. She has requested a public defender, but one had not yet been appointed.
Bail was set at $1 million.
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Comment (http://http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/09/4043007/sheriff-shasta-woman-neglected.html) left for the above article, "Sheriff: Shasta woman neglected newborn to death (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=408208#p408207)" (Nov. 9, 2011; Associated Press/Sacramento Bee):
judychapman · 11/09/2011 11:22 PM
She deserves whatever punishment she gets for murdering her baby. You know that abortion is legal. That is much more humane than letting your baby starve to death. Who in the world would want to be with a woman who has murdered her own child.
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We have received a comment on our blog as response to this entry (http://http://secret-prisons-for-teens.blogspot.com/2011/11/california-group-home-psyc-evaluations.html):
California group home: Psyc evaluations of employees needed
The recent discovery of a mummified baby left by one of the employees of a Christian residential treatment facility leaves the question why there is no rules about a mandatory psychological evaluation of people who want to work with vulnerable teenagers.
The Julian Youth Academy has been controversial for some years. An article in LA Times resulted in a massive debate.
The facility took private paid clients and the job consisted in preventing the teenagers from leaving and inform the authorities until the teenagers surrendered to the special Christian belief they taught at the facility.
It is time to demand stricter rules for facilities like Julian Youth Academy. Mandatory background checks and evaluation of the mental conditions should introduced at once.
Otherwise it is only a question of time before the next case hit the frontpages.
Comment:
I could not agree more. I went to this "academy" AKA brainwash facility, and I can tell you that most of the staff are not qualified for such a responsibility of caring for "troubled teens."
It is beyond sad and disturbing what happened recently with Jessica Bradford. She went to the program herself, graduated, came home to go to cosmetology school for a year, and was invited back to be full time staff. She was around 19 years old...
This case has a lot to do with the school, even though the CEO of the program is denying it left and right. Phil Ludwig, CEO of Teen Rescue Inc, shut down the website and also blocked former students on a private facebook page after we asked real and important questions regarding the murder. What is he scared of? Jessica Bradford led a double life, it's time for the program (or I like to call it, jail) to be accountable for this.
Another interesting nugget...the baby was found on November 4 by a fellow staff. Police weren't called until November 6. The director of the program, whom I know personally, claimed "it was around halloween" and suggested that it was thought to be a prank because when they went back to look at what was found, it was gone. Hmmmm...4 days after Halloween? Decaying body in a laundry basket under blankets? Are they serious?
We mourn the death of the innocent deeply and pray that justice will be served to the FULLEST.
I have a lot more to say about this matter. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask. This isn't going anywhere.
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Wow! I don't know why people like her is until now living. I pity the poor baby who was so innocent enough just to be killed by an irresponsible parent. I think she was so young for being a mother and for her young age, she was maybe under an alcoholic substance or maybe she's into drugs that time. I hope she pays for what she did.
However, this issue really proves that teenagers nowadays are being so violent. In a recent study of adolescents and young adults, one group of experts has found that by the age of 23, as many as 41 percent of people were imprisoned. These arrests could indicate an increase in criminal behavior, or a willingness of police to arrest younger individuals.
You can read this here: Up to 41 percent of 23 year olds have been arrested at least once (http://http://www.newsytype.com/14060-23-year-old-arrest/)
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Oh boy, the spammers are getting more creative.
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Oh boy, the spammers are getting more creative.
They could even be trolls or stalkers ... masquerading as spammers. What a concept!
...At any rate, here's another article:
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KRCR·TV
Mom Of Mummified Baby Heads To Court (http://http://www.krcrtv.com/news/29727566/detail.html)
By Kerry Loring, Asst. News Director
POSTED: 11:33 am PST November 9, 2011
UPDATED: 2:08 pm PST November 9, 2011
(http://http://www.krcrtv.com/2011/1108/29713642_240X300.jpg)
Bradford, Jessica Nicole
WHITMORE, Calif. -- The young woman accused of letting her secret baby die and then decompose for six weeks at a boarding school for troubled teens is scheduled to be in court Wednesday.
Jessica Nicole Bradford, 23, is slated to be arraigned in a Shasta County courtroom to face murder charges in the death of the 4-day old baby. She faces two counts: 1) open count of murder and 2) willful harm or injury to child or death.
Bradford was arrested Sunday at the Julian Youth Academy on Tintagel Lane outside of Whitmore, east of Redding.
KRCR News Channel 7 has learned Bradford is a current employee of the academy and lived in a dorm on the 250-acre property on Tintagel Lane. She is originally from El Cajon, a suburb of San Diego.
The Shasta County Sheriff's Office says they were initially called to the school for reports of a deceased infant Sunday evening. Upon arrival, deputies found the mummified body of a infant girl and determined Bradford, the infant's mother, was responsible in the child's death.
A lengthy interview with Bradford revealed startling details about what transpired over the past few months. The Sheriff's Office says Bradford told them she got pregnant while working at the academy and that she gave birth on or about September 19th. She told investigators she hid the pregnancy from everyone, including her boyfriend of three years. She originally told investigators the baby was stillborn, but later admitted that it lived about four days before dying.
Bradford told investigators she thought about giving the baby up for adoption, but later decided against it. She admitted to neglecting the baby by not giving it any food or breast milk. She said she kept the baby in a vacant building on campus for the first four days it was alive and would check on it periodically while she still worked, visited her boyfriend and drove to Redding at least two times over those four days.
Bradford said she didn't name the baby because she didn't want to become attached to it.
After the baby died, she kept the child hidden in her room for six weeks until a co-worker discovered it. Sheriff's logs reveal employees found the infant wrapped in blankets in a laundry basket. On Friday, when she realized someone might have seen seen the baby, she moved it to a utility closet, where it was eventually discovered by deputies two days later.
According to the Sheriff's Office, the baby was in a mummified state of decomposition. It was a fully-developed, full-term baby.
Bradford is being held on $1,000,000 bail at Shasta County jail.
The Julian Youth Academy (JYA) is Christian residential boarding school for troubled teens. According to the organization's website, JYA was founded in 1993 as a non-profit private residential school for struggling teenagers in need of full-time supervision and redirection. It accepts students ages 12-17 and has another campus in Southern California. The academy has leased a 250-acre ranch formerly known as Shepherd's Ranch and the Cascade School, east of Whitmore, since 2009.
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Copyright © 2011 Bonten Media Group, Inc - Redding, CA USA
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http://www.krcrtv.com/news/30057046/detail.html (http://www.krcrtv.com/news/30057046/detail.html)
Young Woman Accused Of Murdering Baby Waives Preliminary Hearing
POSTED: 11:43 am PST December 22, 2011
The young Whitmore woman accused of murdering her four-day old baby and hiding the mummified body waived her right to a preliminary hearing Thursday morning.
Twenty-three year-old Jessica Bradford chose to waive her hearing. She is scheduled to reappear in court Jan. 3 for possibly a date for a trial.
Bradford has pled not guilty to charges of murder, and child abuse.
Bradford was arrested on Nov 7, at the Julian Youth Academy in Whitmore after the body of a mummified baby was found in her laundry basket. Bradford worked at the Christian school for troubled teens. She told Shasta County Sheriff deputies she had the secret baby on September 19 under a deck at the school so no one would hear. She told deputies the baby was a stillborn, but she later admitted the baby girl lived for four days. Bradford told the deputies she hid the body in different parts of the school and that she never named the baby because she did not want to become attached.
Bradford is being held at the Shasta County jail. Her bail is set at $1 million.
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I seriously wasn't expecting to put a fucking four-day-old baby in the Pile.
It's a rather morbid, but important, role you play in the saga of the TTI. Do you not have a website where you list and give details of all of the kids killed in program?
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Everyone in the Pile is reported on Fornits, whether it's the forum or the Wiki (http://http://wiki.fornits.com).
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Everyone in the Pile is reported on Fornits, whether it's the forum or the Wiki (http://http://wiki.fornits.com).
It's not necessary, but I thought you might have your own personal website like this one: http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/INMEMORIAM.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/INMEMORIAM.html)
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Comments (http://http://www.krcrtv.com/news/29727566/detail.html) left for the above article, "Mom Of Mummified Baby Heads To Court (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&start=30#p409978)" (by Kerry Loring; November 9, 2011; KRCR·TV):
Claire Andresen · Top Commenter · Los Angeles, California · November 9, 2011 at 11:07pm
STOP referring to the baby as "it". Thank you!
Cari Brown · Personal Banker at Wells Fargo Bank, N.A. · November 11, 2011 at 1:00pm
I was sent to this "boarding school" when I was 15 it was the WORST 8 months of my life! I hope it gets shut down!
Bruce Morgan · Ridgewood High School · November 13, 2011 at 12:18pm
Keep your negative crap to yourself, you self-centered d-bag.
Bruce Morgan · Ridgewood High School · November 13, 2011 at 12:22pm
And maybe if you used your time better while you were at the school, you could spell better than my 3-year old. E.S.A.D.
Cari Brown · Personal Banker at Wells Fargo Bank, N.A. · November 13, 2011 at 10:35pm
FYI- Jennifer Treadwell- Brown is my step mom and when she questioned their tactics and the "program" she was threatened!
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Krystal Canlas · Upland, California · November 12, 2011 at 11:29am
I WENT TO THIS HORRIBLE PLACE FOR 18 MONTHS AND I AGREE THE STAFF HAD DIFFERENT SEXUAL PREFERENCES AND WERENT AT ALL ROLE MODELS OF ANY SORT.
Jessica Duperon · LCC Intl University · November 12, 2011 at 9:40pm
I hope she rots. What kind of heartless monster could watch a baby starve to death this makes me sick to my stomach.
Alison Wonderland · Santa Barbara, California · November 30, 2011 at 1:25pm
I can see her getting murder attempts a la Nadia Sulyeman. I wouldnt be at all surprised.
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Jordan Courtney Wright · November 18, 2011 at 8:43pm
Who is this Bruce Morgan? WTF he is in high school and talks to people this way? Must be Phil's son...
BAHAHAHAH
Alexandria Newlin · November 20, 2011 at 10:53pm
Most likely related to Tiffany Morgan, the girl who didn't call the cops for two days! he is friends with her on fb. Hmmm just saying.
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Alison Wonderland · Santa Barbara, California · November 30, 2011 at 10:46am
Even though I am not condoning name-calling and sh! t fights, I always like that any site mentioning JYA initiates extreme controversy. It has continually been made clear that those of us who attended the school (I "graduated" the program in 2000 after 15 1/2 months in an honorable way) are not advocates of the program for many different reasons, including mental health-based and documented trauma, among many others. All I have to say AGAIN (myself and others have been trying to spread the truth about harmful programs for YEARS) is IT SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE TRAGEDY TO ALERT THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE SERIOUS NATURE OF THE HARM THIS AND MANY PROGRAMS CAUSE!
If you are not outraged, YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION!
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08713t.pdf (http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08713t.pdf)
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/trouble ... ustry.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/troubledteensindustry.html)
http://survivingstraightinc.com/home (http://survivingstraightinc.com/home)[/list]
Alison Wonderland · Santa Barbara, California · November 30, 2011 at 10:49am
http://www.cafety.org/ (http://www.cafety.org/)
http://democrats.edworkforce.house.gov/ ... l-programs (http://democrats.edworkforce.house.gov/press-release/miller-harkin-reintroduce-legislation-prevent-child-abuse-teen-residential-programs)
http://democrats.edworkforce.house.gov/ ... s-act-2011 (http://democrats.edworkforce.house.gov/blog/facts-stop-child-abuse-residential-programs-teens-act-2011)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04652.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/27/AR2010092704652.html)
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08146t.pdf (http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08146t.pdf)[/list]
Copyright 2011 KRCR.
Copyright © 2011 Bonten Media Group, Inc - Redding, CA USA
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The arraignment back in November...
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The Record Searchlight
Mother arraigned in death of newborn; baby starved to death in Whitmore, report says (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/09/mother-arraigned-in-death-of-newborn/)
By Jim Schultz
Posted November 9, 2011 at 11:26 p.m.
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Jessica Bradford appears in Shasta County Superior Court on Wednesday. Bradford, 23, is accused of murdering her 4-day-old daughter in mid-September.
As her parents sat discreetly in the back row of the courtroom, a 23-year-old woman accused of murdering her 4-day-old daughter was arraigned Wednesday in Shasta County Superior Court.
It did not appear that Jessica Nicole Bradford made eye contact with her parents, who quickly left the courtroom following her brief appearance before Superior Court Judge James Ruggiero.
"They are devastated," said Shasta County sheriff's Detective Eric Magrini, who flew down to the San Diego area earlier this week to talk to the parents and to also interview other family members and childhood friends of Bradford. "It's been very hard on them."
None of those interviewed, he said, had been aware that Bradford had been pregnant, including her parents.
"The joy of being grandparents was taken from them," Magrini said.
Bradford, who did not enter a plea and is scheduled to return to court on Nov. 16 for further arraignment, is charged with murder, child abuse and a related enhancement.
She faces life in prison if convicted, said Senior Deputy District Attorney Kelly Kafel, who is prosecuting the case.
Kafel said the circumstances surrounding Bradford's case are hard to bear.
"It's heartbreaking," she said. "A victim doesn't get any more innocent."
Deputies arrested Bradford on Monday for allegedly allowing her 4-day-old daughter to starve to death.
"It's unbelievable," said sheriff's Sgt. Steve Grashoff, saying the case is among the most gruesome and troubling he's encountered during his 21-year law enforcement career.
"It's one of them," he said.
As investigators continue to interview witnesses and develop more information, Detective Brian Jackson said the baby's mummified body was found Sunday afternoon at the Julian Youth Academy in the 12000 block of Tintagel Lane in Whitmore after a school employee alerted authorities.
Bradford is a former student at the private Christian boarding school for troubled teens and had been a staff worker there for about three or four years.
According to a sheriff's two-page summary of events filed Wednesday in Superior Court, a woman identified as Tiffany Morgan called an emergency dispatcher around 5:45 p.m. on Sunday.
She told authorities a dead baby had apparently been seen in a staff member's room inside a laundry basket around 11:30 p.m. Friday while other staff members were looking for a blanket.
Although it's still not clear why deputies were not alerted earlier, Bradford told detectives she gave birth to the child on Sept. 19, but believed the baby was stillborn.
Bradford said she kept the baby hidden in a laundry basket in her room for about a month and a half after she died, but moved the body into a utility closet Friday after realizing the blankets covering her had been disturbed that day.
She said she did not tell anyone that she was pregnant, including her boyfriend of about three years, who has not been identified.
Kafel said Bradford apparently was able to hide her pregnancy by wearing baggy clothes.
During subsequent interviews with investigators, however, Bradford changed her story, admitting the baby was not stillborn and had lived for about four days, the sheriff's report said.
Although she had thoughts of giving the baby up for adoption, she chose not to for various reasons, the sheriff's report added.
Bradford told deputies she kept the baby in a vacant residence on campus and would occasionally check on it.
She continued to go to work, see her boyfriend and drove to Redding at least twice for personal business, the report said.
She told sheriff's investigators she didn't feed the baby, but tried to give the girl water when she cried, the sheriff's report said.
"Bradford admitted she neglected to care for the baby by not feeding it or being able to provide breast milk for feeding," the sheriff's report said.
Bradford also told detectives she never told anyone about the baby or her pregnancy because she feared she would lose her job and her lifestyle.
"She did not want to tell her boyfriend about the baby because she did not want to affect his life and her life," the sheriff's report said.
Bradford is being held in Shasta County jail in lieu of $1 million bail.
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Doc included with the just above article (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=411592#p411592), namely, the actual charges filed against Bradford:
- People vs. Jessica Nicole Bradford (http://http://media.redding.com/media/static/BABY_MURDER.pdf)
This is actually a small collection of docs (6 pp total), which include the charges, police reports, etc.
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F I L E D
NOV 09 2011
CLERK OF THE SUPERIOR COURT
BY: TRACY FISHER, DEPUTY CLERK
File No. F-11-06931
STEPHEN S. CARLTON
DISTRICT ATTORNEY
Shasta County
1355 West Street
Redding, CA 96001
(530) 245-6300
[email protected]
Attorney for Plaintiff
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, COUNTY OF SHASTA
Redding Branch[/list]
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
Plaintiff,
vs.
JESSICA NICOLE BRADFORD,
AKA: JESSICA N BRADFORD
Defendant(s)
No. 11-06931
AMENDED
COMPLAINT-CRIMINAL
Felony
Next Court Date: 11/09/2011
DA # F-11-06931
SHASTA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT 1136058
The District Attorney of Shasta County, by and through the undersigned Deputy District Attorney, on information and belief, complains and accuses defendant(s) of having committed, in the County of Shasta, State of California, the crime(s) of:
COUNT 1[/list]
MURDER, in violation of Section 187(A) of the Penal Code, a Felony.
Defendant JESSICA NICOLE BRADFORD,
On or about the 23rd day of September, 2011, did willfully, unlawfully, deliberately, with premeditation and malice aforethought murder BABY JANE DOE, a HUMAN BEING.
It is further alleged that the aforesaid murder was committed willfully, deliberately and with premeditation and is a serious felony pursuant to Penal Code section 1192.7(c).
COUNT 2[/list]
CHILD ABUSE, in violation of Section 273A(A) of the Penal Code, a Felony.
Defendant JESSICA NICOLE BRADFORD,
On or about the 23rd day of September, 2011, did willfully and unlawfully, under circumstances and conditions likely to produce great bodily harm or death, cause and permit a child to suffer and did inflict thereon unjustifiable physical pain and mental suffering; and having the care and custody of a child, did cause and permit that child to be injured; and did cause and permit that child to be placed in a situation where her person and health were endangered.
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12022.95 PC SPECIAL ALLEGATION OF HARM OR INJURY RESULTING IN DEATH OF CHILD
It is further alleged that defendant JESSICA NICOLE BRADFORD,
As to Count 2, did cause or permit any child to suffer, or inflict thereon unjustifiable physical pain or injury that results in death, or having the care or custody of any child, under circumstances likely to produce great bodily harm or death, willfully causes or permits that child to be injured or harmed, and that injury or harm results in death.
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KELLY KAFEL
Deputy District Attorney
Subscribed and sworn to before
this 9TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2011
Pursuant to Penal Code Section 1054.5(b), the People are hereby informally requesting that defense counsel provide discovery to the people as required by Penal Code Section 1054.3.
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_______ It appearing to me that the offense(s) in the within complaint has/have been committed, and that there is sufficient cause to believe that the defendant(s)
JESSICA NICOLE BRADFORD,
AKA: JESSICA N BRADFORD
is guilty thereof.
The defendant(s)
JESSICA NICOLE BRADFORD,
JESSICA N BRADFORD
having waived preliminary hearing to the offense(s) set forth in this complaint,
Exceptions/Additions/Conditions:
_______ I order that the defendant be held to answer to same. In my capacity as Judge of the Superior Court, I deem the within complaint to be an Information and order it filed in the Superior Court.
_______ I order that the defendant be held to answer to same. An Information is to be filed by the District Attorney's Office within the statutory time limit for defendant's arraignment on said Information.
Date: _______ Dept. _______ _____________________
Judge of the Superior Court
Sitting as Magistrate
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SHASTA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE
Narrative: On 11-06-11 at 1725 hours, Tiffany Morgan reported one of her staff members (Kori Alugas) possibly saw a deceased baby in another staff (Jessica Bradford's) room on Friday 11-04-11 around 2330 hours. Deputy Ruiz and I arrived at 12069 Tintagel Lane #B2 and located a baby inside a laundry basket which was located inside of a laundry room adjacent to Jessica's residence. This investigation was turned over to Detective Jackson upon his arrival.
Case status: Forward to Major Crimes
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By < initials >
Report No. 11-36058
Officer ID No. 174
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SHASTA COUNTY SHERIFF
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187 PC: Murder
(S) Bradford, Jessica
Case No# 11-36058
Summary of Events
Detective B. Jackson ID# 150
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INVESTIGATION:
On 11/06/11, Sunday, at 1745 hours, Tiffany Morgan reported to dispatch a suspicious circumstance possible involving a deceased baby located at 12069 Tintagel Lane, Whitmore, CA (Julian Academy, a school for troubled teams). Morgan reported the deceased baby was originally seen in a staff member's room inside a laundry basket on 11/04/11, Friday at approximately 2330 hours while other staff members were looking for a blanket. The staff member's room was identified as belonging to Jessica Bradford.
Deputy Tippings responded to the location and spoke with Bradford who admitted the baby was hers. Bradford told Deputy Tippings that she originally gave birth to the baby on 09/19/11 outside the residence and believed the baby was stillborn at that time. Bradford admitted she kept the baby inside her room since then and moved it to a nearby utility room after she realized blankets covering the baby had been disturbed on 11/04/11. Bradford told Deputy Tippings that she did not tell anyone that she was pregnant which included her boyfriend of approximately three years and her immediate family.
Deputy Tippings telephoned me at my residence and I responded to the location with other detectives for further investigation due to the late reporting of the baby's death and suspicious behavior of Bradford.
I interviewed Bradford after transporting her to the Shasta County Sheriff's Office, Major Crimes Unit. Bradford initially told me she gave birth to the baby on 09/19/11 in the early morning hours. Bradford stated she gave birth outside of her room under a deck attached to her residence to avoid anyone from hearing her. Bradford stated after the baby was born, the baby was not breathing and was limp causing her to believe the baby was stillborn.
During this interview and subsequent interviews later in the day on 11/07/11, Bradford changed her story and admitted to me that the baby was not stillborn and lived for approximately four days. Bradford told me she did not name the baby which was suspicious. Bradford stated she had thoughts of giving the baby up for adoption however chose not to for various reasons. Bradford admitted she neglected to care for the baby by not feeding it or being able to provide breast milk for feeding. Bradford admitted she did not tell anybody, including her family, about the baby due to fear of scrutiny. Bradford kept the baby in a vacant residence on campus and would check on the baby periodically while she still worked, visited with her boyfriend and drove to Redding for personal business on at least two occasions. Bradford told me she tried to provide the baby some water when the baby cried. She did not tell her boyfriend about the baby because she did not want to affect his life and her life.
After the baby's death, Bradford kept the child secreted in her room in a laundry basket for approximately a month and a half until the baby was seen by another staff member. Bradford realized that someone had possibly seen the baby and decided to move the baby on Friday, 11/04/11 into a utility closet where the baby was ultimately located.
When located the baby was in a mummified state of decomposition; however was a fully developed, full term baby.
Bradford was subsequently arrested for 187 PC: Murder and 273a(a) PC: Willful Cruelty to a Child and booked into the Shasta County Jail.
Case Status: Refer to D.A. for Arraignment.
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IMAGED
NOV 09 2011
BY < initials >
B.Jackson ID# 150
11/08/11, 1600 hrs
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NOV 09 2011
SHASTA COUNTY SHERIFF
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Comments (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/09/mother-arraigned-in-death-of-newborn/) left for the above article, "Mother arraigned in death of newborn; baby starved to death in Whitmore, report says (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=411595#p411592)" (by Jim Schultz; November 9, 2011; Record Searchlight), #s 1-30:
Prancer3 writes: November 10, 2011 12:07 a.m.
Wow. There just isn't anything to say about this situation. May the Lord bless that poor little baby...the thought of her dying alone while that mother was out partying and carrying on with her own selfish life is unbelievable.
Epicsstyle writes: November 10, 2011 2:41 a.m.
Talk about selfish...Geesh!
DrSeuss writes: November 10, 2011 4:27 a.m.
She didn't tell the father because she didn't want to "affect his life"...really? And she doesn't think this will? Selfish beyond belief !! Lock her up UNDER the jail.
jazavac writes: November 10, 2011 4:48 a.m.
"who flew down to the San Diego area earlier this week to talk to the parents and to also interview other family members and childhood friends of Bradford"
Why would we pay for this in such a cut and dried case?
jazavac writes: November 10, 2011 4:54 a.m.
This is what we're teaching our children. Don't have a baby at a young age, it will ruin your life and your boyfriends life. I wonder how young she heard the message at.
Too bad that there is no one in her life that she felt she could tell who would have talk to her about other options.
Just because commenters CAN'T understand this doesn't mean they should get irrational and emotional.
The baby is with God. Let it be and care for the living. This young lady is likely to come into understanding of what she's done. When that happens I hope she has the help she needs.
UserNameUnknown writes: November 10, 2011 4:57 a.m.
I'm heartbroken. This is really beyond words. I would not want to be the attorney who has to build a defense for this lady. Seems almost sociopathic to do something like this and then carry on with life as normal.
I hope this young woman wasn't in any kind of mentoring position to the "troubled youths" at this school where she graduated.
How very sad. If she was truly trying to conceal the pregnancy, so as not to "affect" her boyfriend and herself and her lifestyle, and she had already dismissed the option of giving the baby up for adoption, in my mind, this shows some degree of premeditation on her part to end this baby's life. How very, very sad and heartless.
ReddingCritic writes: November 10, 2011 5:17 a.m.
"Bradford is a former student at the private Christian boarding school for troubled teens and had been a staff worker there for about three or four years."
Seems as if one can't tell the difference between the "troubled teens" and the staff. It is probably time to have the state licensing people investigate this institution.
cv73 writes: November 10, 2011 5:57 a.m.
You come into this world alone but you don't die alone, in our mind that baby was alone but spiritually the angels were around that little precious baby girl and then she went to her place in God's Kingdom she was not alone nor will you or I be either...
KimW writes: November 10, 2011 6:19 a.m.
jazavac:
This is what we're teaching our children. Don't have a baby at a young age, it will ruin your life and your boyfriends life. I wonder how young she heard the message at.
Too bad that there is no one in her life that she felt she could tell who would have talk to her about other options.
Just because commenters CAN'T understand this doesn't mean they should get irrational and emotional.
The baby is with God. Let it be and care for the living. This young lady is likely to come into understanding of what she's done. When that happens I hope she has the help she needs.
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Thank you for a reasonable opinion.
The most facile opinion possible here is "lock her up and throw away the key."
Cases like this are hardly extreme rarities nationwide, and there is often a striking commonality to them, a girl or young woman who, inexplicably to most of us, feels trapped and entirely without options, who is not aware of assistance available, cannot avail herself of such assistance, or simply cannot avail herself of that assistance due to some personal nightmare of fear or embarrassment. Decades of imprisonment will do nothing for this young lady, or others like her, except to put her out of *our* minds, with a smug satisfaction that punishment has been meted out.
I find it hard to have any sympathy for this young lady, personally. What I do ask myself, however, is why do such unreasonable and cruel acts occur with such frequency? Why do the girls and young women who commit these acts have such similar stories?
To make a stupid and perhaps cruel analogy, and I apologize for it; It's satisfying to stomp on ants in your house. You can do it all day long, however, without any hope whatsoever of solving your ant problem. There's probably a reason they're in your house to start with. Unless you deal with *that,* you might as well like stomping ants, 'cuz you're going to be doing it forever.[/list]
KimW writes: November 10, 2011 6:30 a.m.
ReddingCritic:
"Bradford is a former student at the private Christian boarding school for troubled teens and had been a staff worker there for about three or four years."
Seems as if one can't tell the difference between the "troubled teens" and the staff. It is probably time to have the state licensing people investigate this institution.
[/list][/size]YOU-->""Bradford is a former student at the private Christian boarding school for troubled teens and had been a staff worker there for about three or four years."
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*This* is a very interesting point, I'd say.
The school's primary purpose, it seems, is to deal with troubled youth. Presumably *other* staff is present who might be expected to recognize psychological and behavioral problems and the symptoms of those problems in the youths they deal with. Most of us who work with others, on the job, certainly recognize puzzling behavioral changes and other symptoms of problems in our co-workers, and often discuss them among ourselves, and with the person involved. What happened here?[/list]
scobechay writes: November 10, 2011 6:39 a.m.
Everybody finds this story disturbing, but this is an act by a selfish girl, not the Christian boarding school. What I have read is that they were unaware of this girl's pregnancy, along with her friends and parents.
BANDOLERO58 writes: November 10, 2011 6:56 a.m.
What a shame. Even an animal would defend its cubs to the death. Here we we have this...I could never understand why we humans act this way. Too bad, she is a beautiful girl too.
Jack_Bauer writes: November 10, 2011 7:31 a.m.
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5Minutes writes: November 10, 2011 7:33 a.m.
Having worked at JYA for a little more that a year and an experienced at risk high school teacher , let me put some minds at ease. JYA is an outstanding school that works with troubled youth that many have given up on. Phil and his staff have a passion for these kids and a hearts desire to see them set straight and equipped for adult life.
The young lady in this story most certainly has issues that we can not begin to guess or understand fully, so I wont try to here. It is beyond sad to see an innocent life terminated in this or any fashion; especially considering the baby had no ability to defend itself against it. The true definition of an innocent victim.
Now, lets think about this for 5 Minutes...
We have come to the defense of this baby, it died tragically and needlessly and its cries to be saved went unheard...
Under legal protection people kill hundreds of babies every day just as tragically, just as needlessly. They can not defend themselves and their cries go unheard. The minds and hearts of people, especially the youth, have been numbed against this barbaric action we call abortion; however is it really any different than what Jessica B did? I am NOT defending her actions by any means, I just see the value of life being diminished day by day and we now see the results in stories like this.
Think about it for 5 Minutes, it may change your mind.
LucidDream writes: November 10, 2011 7:40 a.m.
KimW:
YOU-->""Bradford is a former student at the private Christian boarding school for troubled teens and had been a staff worker there for about three or four years."
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*This* is a very interesting point, I'd say.
The school's primary purpose, it seems, is to deal with troubled youth. Presumably *other* staff is present who might be expected to recognize psychological and behavioral problems and the symptoms of those problems in the youths they deal with. Most of us who work with others, on the job, certainly recognize puzzling behavioral changes and other symptoms of problems in our co-workers, and often discuss them among ourselves, and with the person involved. What happened here?
[/list][/size]Clearly the parents recognized there were issues, thus sending her to the place. It seems that praying couldn't fix this girl's underlying issues, though. Not that I'm surprised. And since she was actually considered such a success story that they hired her to work there, I'd say that the place gets a big fail.[/list]
Puddin1 writes: November 10, 2011 8 a.m.
Jack_Bauer:
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)[/list][/list][/size]Certainately NOT the appropriate forum for such smug and idiotic comments such as yours. Maybe next time you should think before you speak. Reminds me of a quote I once heard that said "It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid" Try a little human dignity and sensitivity in light of the situation next time my friend.[/list]
TheKid writes: November 10, 2011 8:06 a.m.
She looks like a pretty scary person to begin with. She probably planned to do this from the beginning of the prenancy.
AlohaSpirit writes: November 10, 2011 8:19 a.m.
I guess next to suicide, this would be the ultimate selfish act. So many innocent people hurt by this.
I too find this incredibly hard to imagine, but as has been said, it is happenning with greater frequency. too many selfish people, I guess.
For four days of sufferring, Baby will get to spend eternity without pain, hunger, crying, etc. God bless you, Little One.
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 8:19 a.m.
Puddin1:
Certainately NOT the appropriate forum for such smug and idiotic comments such as yours. Maybe next time you should think before you speak. Reminds me of a quote I once heard that said "It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid" Try a little human dignity and sensitivity in light of the situation next time my friend.
[/list][/size]I welcome it over all these phony people who like to cry about a baby, a family, and curse a girl they no nothing about. Its princess Diana candlelight vigil syndrome all over again. No one understands what her mentality is and just wants to get out the torchs and pitchforks. My favorite so far in real insensitivity is Bandelero's comment about her being attractive. As if she were societally unattractive, this would be different. The whole problem with this is that its not our problem to judge. We should just understand.[/list]
AlohaSpirit writes: November 10, 2011 8:22 a.m.
And, Puddin, I think Jack was attempting to be humorous with dripping sarcasm, but I agree that it isn't the right forum for that. A bit too disrespectful of the loss so many are sufferring.
Two wasted lives. So sad.
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 8:39 a.m.
Prancer3:
Wow. There just isn't anything to say about this situation. May the Lord bless that poor little baby...the thought of her dying alone while that mother was out partying and carrying on with her own selfish life is unbelievable.
[/list][/size]Apparently there is something to say as it seems you find a way to comment on about every story on here. No one on here knows this woman so who are we to say anything. At best, this is a ridiculous and phony attempt at empathy.[/list]
Jack_Bauer writes: November 10, 2011 8:42 a.m.
AlohaSpirit:
And, Puddin, I think Jack was attempting to be humorous with dripping sarcasm, but I agree that it isn't the right forum for that. A bit too disrespectful of the loss so many are sufferring.
Two wasted lives. So sad.
[/list][/size]Actually I was just pointing out the BLATANT hypocrisy of abortion supporters who lament a dead baby who suffered because of the mother's neglect but if the mother had been smart enough to have called an abortionist a few days earlier she could've not only gotten away legally scot-free, but abortion lovers would've cheered her for exercising her "right" to kill her baby!
This sad incident reminds me of this Philadelphia story:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/0 ... of-murder/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/01/19/philly-doctor-facing-8-counts-of-murder/)[/list]
crzyppl writes: November 10, 2011 9:14 a.m.
Cynicalone:
I welcome it over all these phony people who like to cry about a baby, a family, and curse a girl they no nothing about. Its princess Diana candlelight vigil syndrome all over again. No one understands what her mentality is and just wants to get out the torchs and pitchforks. My favorite so far in real insensitivity is Bandelero's comment about her being attractive. As if she were societally unattractive, this would be different. The whole problem with this is that its not our problem to judge. We should just understand.
[/list][/size]Here you go again with your with you hypocritical judging of people for "judging" this girl. Stories like this, is what brings out emotion and opinions from people. That is human nature. When someone hears something that is upsetting and states that their disgust for the actions taken by someone, that is their right. You criticizing everyone for appall with this horrific story is your way of trying to act like you are better than someone for not "judging". Yes a person that can do something like this obviously has metal issues, but the fact that she knew what she was doing ( her own statements point out that she knew better, but didn't care!) is what is disturbing to people. So I don't know what side of the bed you rolled out on (you obviously keep choosing the wrong side) but, again get over yourself. Her own parents were at the court case, obviously disgusted and upset with the actions of their daughter. Meaning, she wasn't brought up in some horrific child hating abusive house hold that would condone such actions. This girl is sick and deserves no sympathy. She doesn't need people like you defending her and having some bleeding heart for her actions while making up excuses. She did it, admitted to it, and doesn't care, end of story.[/list]
suku writes: November 10, 2011 9:20 a.m.
Jack_Bauer:
Actually I was just pointing out the BLATANT hypocrisy of abortion supporters who lament a dead baby who suffered because of the mother's neglect but if the mother had been smart enough to have called an abortionist a few days earlier she could've not only gotten away legally scot-free, but abortion lovers would've cheered her for exercising her "right" to kill her baby!
This sad incident reminds me of this Philadelphia story:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/0 ... of-murder/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/01/19/philly-doctor-facing-8-counts-of-murder/)[/list][/list][/size]Whoa. I think you'd be happier in Mississippi. A few days earlier? Blatant hypocrisy? Abortion lover? Cheered? What's the matter with you? Did your mother threaten you with abortion as a child? Is this the male version of penis envy? Freud calls it castration anxiety but I think he was too fixated on male anatomy for his terminology to make the corresponding leap from penis to uterus. It's not yours to make decisions for, you can't have one and never will. PLEASE get used to the idea ... unless you'd like us women (and other men) to take civil liberties with the capabilities of your penis.
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/aborti ... _legal.htm (http://civilliberty.about.com/od/abortion/f/abortion_legal.htm)[/list]
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 9:31 a.m.
crzyppl:
Here you go again with your with you hypocritical judging of people for "judging" this girl. Stories like this, is what brings out emotion and opinions from people. That is human nature. When someone hears something that is upsetting and states that their disgust for the actions taken by someone, that is their right. You criticizing everyone for appall with this horrific story is your way of trying to act like you are better than someone for not "judging". Yes a person that can do something like this obviously has metal issues, but the fact that she knew what she was doing ( her own statements point out that she knew better, but didn't care!) is what is disturbing to people. So I don't know what side of the bed you rolled out on (you obviously keep choosing the wrong side) but, again get over yourself. Her own parents were at the court case, obviously disgusted and upset with the actions of their daughter. Meaning, she wasn't brought up in some horrific child hating abusive house hold that would condone such actions. This girl is sick and deserves no sympathy. She doesn't need people like you defending her and having some bleeding heart for her actions while making up excuses. She did it, admitted to it, and doesn't care, end of story.
[/list][/size]Where do you get me judging people when I clearly say that we have no right to judge and should just attempt to understand this woman. Why do you keep reitterating what she did? No where in my comment am I defending her. I guess it is human nature to go and bother ourselves about something we know nothing and can/will do nothing about. So now that all the crying is over on this, why dont we move on to the homeless man who was killed, I noticed there were only 4 comments on him this am. "metal issues" That is awesome.[/list]
idealistic writes: November 10, 2011 9:33 a.m.
Cynicalone:
I welcome it over all these phony people who like to cry about a baby, a family, and curse a girl they no nothing about. Its princess Diana candlelight vigil syndrome all over again. No one understands what her mentality is and just wants to get out the torchs and pitchforks. My favorite so far in real insensitivity is Bandelero's comment about her being attractive. As if she were societally unattractive, this would be different. The whole problem with this is that its not our problem to judge. We should just understand.
[/list][/size]Are you kidding? It may not be our place to judge, but you want us to 'just understand'? How outrageous is that? She knew what she was doing, considering that she 'occassionally checked" on the baby. Wow. I am just dumbfounded by your opinion...[/list]
Treebones writes: November 10, 2011 9:34 a.m.
Trying to equate this action by a mentally disturbed women with abortion is ridiculous.
Quite the stretch of the imagination to make a political point.
NotBornYesterday writes: November 10, 2011 9:35 a.m.
jazavac:
This is what we're teaching our children. Don't have a baby at a young age, it will ruin your life and your boyfriends life. I wonder how young she heard the message at.
Too bad that there is no one in her life that she felt she could tell who would have talk to her about other options.
Just because commenters CAN'T understand this doesn't mean they should get irrational and emotional.
The baby is with God. Let it be and care for the living. This young lady is likely to come into understanding of what she's done. When that happens I hope she has the help she needs.
[/list][/size]Good points! This is a side that should be thought about however, I tend to believe that there is no other explanation for this girls behavior than she definitely has to have some mental health issues. How did she obtain these issues? I won't presume to know but, I do know I heard those same messages at a young age and I chose to not have a baby as a teen, if I would have, I would never have considered to hide it in a laundry basket. Something else made this girl fear that baby.
The baby is in the best place it could be, may god bless you little baby....[/list]
Jack_Bauer writes: November 10, 2011 9:41 a.m.
suku:
Whoa. I think you'd be happier in Mississippi. A few days earlier? Blatant hypocrisy? Abortion lover? Cheered? What's the matter with you? Did your mother threaten you with abortion as a child? Is this the male version of penis envy? Freud calls it castration anxiety but I think he was too fixated on male anatomy for his terminology to make the corresponding leap from penis to uterus. It's not yours to make decisions for, you can't have one and never will. PLEASE get used to the idea ... unless you'd like us women (and other men) to take civil liberties with the capabilities of your penis.
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/aborti ... _legal.htm (http://civilliberty.about.com/od/abortion/f/abortion_legal.htm)[/list][/list][/size]So you see nothing wrong in the situations where a "mother" can have an abortion 8 months and 29 days into the pregnancy, but if the baby is born a day later, that baby now has a right to life when just the day before it didn't? At some point the uterus ends and another person begins... When is that magic point for you?
Now, I'm not an extremist and think the pill should be legal (and probably even over the counter), but I see something wrong in the situation where a "fetus" becomes a "person" based purely on whether the "mother" decides she wants it or not, even in the third trimester. The fact is if this so-called mother had just gone to an abortionist a few days before giving birth that baby would've been just as dead, and not a peep would've been said or heard about it.[/list]
crzyppl writes: November 10, 2011 9:48 a.m.
Cynicalone:
Where do you get me judging people when I clearly say that we have no right to judge and should just attempt to understand this woman. Why do you keep reitterating what she did? No where in my comment am I defending her. I guess it is human nature to go and bother ourselves about something we know nothing and can/will do nothing about. So now that all the crying is over on this, why dont we move on to the homeless man who was killed, I noticed there were only 4 comments on him this am. "metal issues" That is awesome.
[/list][/size]Where do I get you judging people? In every comment of yours, that's where. You respond to every comment that has someone stating a personal opinion and observation of how they feel by this story. You keep telling everyone they need to stay neutral because we don't know the mental state of this girl. Well the mental state of this girl is "messed up beyond repair", that's her mental state. She admitted to this, meaning she was of conscience mind while performing these acts. She tried to quiet the baby, she tried to hide the whole thing, she knew what she was doing was wrong. She said she thought about surrendering the baby to a safe house, but decided against it. To me, at that point it is premeditated murder. Thinking about not doing this then deciding to do it is a decision she made. We didn't make this up.
As for the homeless guy that was stabbed I A) didn't see this story and B) think that this story is more disturbing and horrific than someone who lives a life or risk like that getting stabbed. Don't take me wrong, I'm not saying that it is ok or that I don't care, I'm just saying that this story, as a parent, touches home with me more.[/list]
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Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 10:12 a.m.
Once again, you are repeating the facts of the story. Not sure why, its not going to change.
For clarification, I did not repond to every comment on here by someone who has an opionion. I am not arguing that her mental state is unbalanced. "Messed up beyond repair" is not in the DSM so will have to find a translator for that. What interests me is how she got there because thats the only benefit that will be served. Maybe we can help our children and our friends if we see signs of this kind of problems. Cursing her does absolutely no good; it is too late. Yes, she needs to go away so she cant do this again. Tomorrow, and everyday from here on out, you can find something else to be touched by and cry about. See where that gets you.
33432 writes: November 10, 2011 10:19 a.m.
5Minutes:
Having worked at JYA for a little more that a year and an experienced at risk high school teacher , let me put some minds at ease. JYA is an outstanding school that works with troubled youth that many have given up on. Phil and his staff have a passion for these kids and a hearts desire to see them set straight and equipped for adult life.
The young lady in this story most certainly has issues that we can not begin to guess or understand fully, so I wont try to here. It is beyond sad to see an innocent life terminated in this or any fashion; especially considering the baby had no ability to defend itself against it. The true definition of an innocent victim.
Now, lets think about this for 5 Minutes...
We have come to the defense of this baby, it died tragically and needlessly and its cries to be saved went unheard...
Under legal protection people kill hundreds of babies every day just as tragically, just as needlessly. They can not defend themselves and their cries go unheard. The minds and hearts of people, especially the youth, have been numbed against this barbaric action we call abortion; however is it really any different than what Jessica B did? I am NOT defending her actions by any means, I just see the value of life being diminished day by day and we now see the results in stories like this.
Think about it for 5 Minutes, it may change your mind.
[/list][/size]Uh, yes - abortion is a lot different than what she did. Abortion (whether you are for or against it) is quick and decisive. What this person did was choose to have the baby, then kill it over the course of a few days. MAJOR DIFFERENCE. Good luck trying to downplay what she did with that line of reasoning.[/list]
ReddingCritic writes: November 10, 2011 10:22 a.m.
The body was discovered on Friday, but not reported until Sunday. This raises several questions:
1. Was failure to report the find itself a crime?
2. Was someone else involved in the cover-up?
3. What kind of staff do they have at this place anyway? Did someone fail to make a mandated report to CPS?
4. Why is the name of this home for "troubled teens" not disclosed by the Record Searchlight?
5. Is the state's licensing board involved in the investigation?
Mephistopheles writes: November 10, 2011 10:48 a.m.
"The joy of being grandparents was taken from them," Magrini said.
What a load of pandering BS.
suku writes: November 10, 2011 10:53 a.m.
33432:
Uh, yes - abortion is a lot different than what she did. Abortion (whether you are for or against it) is quick and decisive. What this person did was choose to have the baby, then kill it over the course of a few days. MAJOR DIFFERENCE. Good luck trying to downplay what she did with that line of reasoning.
[/list][/size]Um. So, if she'd quickly and decisively strangled the baby, THAT would have been okay? I think I understand the point you tried to make but I could be wrong. That wording was skewed a bit. Abortion is legal. Late term even but I'm pretty sure there has to be a valid medical reason to do late term abortions because the life of the fetus is viable (can survive on its own with medical assistance) and if it is viable, it is its own person. When a person becomes viable is generally between 21 and 26 weeks into gestation according to doctors but the States have defined that line differently. I tend to believe in doctors before I believe people in general or the people they've elected to represent them.
That answer is also for Jack_Bauer.[/list]
Jack_Bauer writes: November 10, 2011 10:55 a.m.
33432:
Uh, yes - abortion is a lot different than what she did. Abortion (whether you are for or against it) is quick and decisive. What this person did was choose to have the baby, then kill it over the course of a few days. MAJOR DIFFERENCE. Good luck trying to downplay what she did with that line of reasoning.
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crzyppl writes: November 10, 2011 10:59 a.m.
Cynicalone::
Once again, you are repeating the facts of the story. Not sure why, its not going to change.
For clarification, I did not repond to every comment on here by someone who has an opionion. I am not arguing that her mental state is unbalanced. "Messed up beyond repair" is not in the DSM so will have to find a translator for that. What interests me is how she got there because thats the only benefit that will be served. Maybe we can help our children and our friends if we see signs of this kind of problems. Cursing her does absolutely no good; it is too late. Yes, she needs to go away so she cant do this again. Tomorrow, and everyday from here on out, you can find something else to be touched by and cry about. See where that gets you.
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Jack_Bauer writes: November 10, 2011 11:11 a.m.
suku:
Um. So, if she'd quickly and decisively strangled the baby, THAT would have been okay? I think I understand the point you tried to make but I could be wrong. That wording was skewed a bit. Abortion is legal. Late term even but I'm pretty sure there has to be a valid medical reason to do late term abortions because the life of the fetus is viable (can survive on its own with medical assistance) and if it is viable, it is its own person. When a person becomes viable is generally between 21 and 26 weeks into gestation according to doctors but the States have defined that line differently. I tend to believe in doctors before I believe people in general or the people they've elected to represent them.
That answer is also for Jack_Bauer.
[/list][/size]"Late term even but I'm pretty sure there has to be a valid medical reason to do late term abortions because the life of the fetus is viable (can survive on its own with medical assistance) and if it is viable, it is its own person. When a person becomes viable is generally between 21 and 26 weeks into gestation according to doctors but the States have defined that line differently."
Correct in that states define it differently, but partial birth abortion is practiced in California. I got no problem with cases where the abortion is performed because the baby will be severely deformed and will suffer a very short life, that's up to the parents to make that agonizing decision... But to leave it up to the "health of the mother" option as determined by the doctor can be ludicrous because that definition includes mental health, as in "Having this baby will drive the woman insane, so we're gonna kill it". That's CRAZY to me and it DOES happen, and it probably could've happened here as I'm sure that an insanity defense will be claimed... And yes, I know that it's extremely rare and very few cases happen every year, but so what? Is it any less wrong if it happens rarely or frequently?[/list]
MyBad writes: November 10, 2011 11:14 a.m.
It amazes me that the ones here who are voiceing their shock and grief of this terrible event, has been mocked and attacked by other posters! Who gave you the right to "judge" the feelings behind comments as heartfelt or not!!
If I say I believe this woman is truly insane for the acts she committed against this child and the reasons she gave for doing it, am I judging her or just believing something is terribly wrong with her mind for her to be able to turn her heart and mother-spirit against this little baby!
What she did was just plain horrible! Days after hearing about it, it still almost makes me literally sick to my stomach to think of that poor little girl crying to live and her MOTHER thinking her 'lifestyle' was more important than that beautiful little infant!!
Somehow the comments have turned into a debate on abortion instead of concentrating on the precious little girl who was deliberately tortured and murdered! Yes, she's no longer suffering. That "mother" should be judged and put in a prison with inmate-women that love and miss their own children...let them take care of her!
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 11:16 a.m.
Mephistopheles:
"The joy of being grandparents was taken from them," Magrini said.
What a load of pandering BS.
[/list][/size]I hope Im surfing the lake of fire by dusk for saying this Meph, fantastic choice of words. Keep up the good work.
@crzyppl: didnt quite catch that. sorry :)[/list]
suku writes: November 10, 2011 11:17 a.m.
Now that I've said that, I started thinking about how a lot of modern medicine has been learned. Many of those men and women who used those methods were doctors. Yeesh. Evolve/devolve. Where's the line?
Prancer3 writes: November 10, 2011 11:26 a.m.
Sorry...(and please do not put yourself out commenting on my comment...cycliclone or whatever your thing is, not interested)...
This girl...mother or whatever she is being called...imo is not "mental"...she is a spoiled rotten brat who didn't want this little baby to screw up her and her boyfriends' partying lifestyle sounds to me like. No sympathy here for anybody except that innocent little murdered baby girl. Does she even have a name, poor little thing.
crzyppl writes: November 10, 2011 11:30 a.m.
crzyppl:
(This comment was removed by the site staff.)[/list][/list][/size]Really? There wasn’t even anything that violates your "rules"....
So I will say it again.
I am repeating the facts because you clearly didn’t read them. "Messed up beyond repair"=beyond help. Not that hard to comprehend...Being upset about a story like this does not constitute me being "touched" and "Crying" about everything. Keep opening your mouth and see where your idiocy gets you.[/list]
gungal writes: November 10, 2011 11:34 a.m.
Treebones:
Trying to equate this action by a mentally disturbed women with abortion is ridiculous.
Quite the stretch of the imagination to make a political point.
[/list][/size]I can see a connection in the mind set.
And what they are trying to impart.
Jessica did not want to be pregnant but got pregnant for whatever reason and she did not get an elective abortion (Many of the same people who are here and horrified that she killed her new born would have told her to get one).
There are similarities in that she wanted to keep her life the way she wanted and was scared of anyone knowing(like many women who choose to have an elective abortion...making a fear based choice) but the fact that she did nothing , had Baby girl and then let her die slowly over four days is where it becomes different.
There was thought of adoption but she did not chose that. Jessica knew Baby girl was hungry and needed breast milk/formula but she chose not to give it. She did fill her babies mouth and belly with water and gave her a blanket maybe to keep her quiet so as not to be discovered before she died. Jessica made the CHOICE to let her newborn baby die for what ever reason.
Jessica needs to be accountable for what she did to Baby girl and she NEEDS to have her tubes tied.
Who deserves the empathy in my mind? Baby girl, her father, and her grandparents(both sets)who had no choice in any of this...but who has, and will, suffer for Jessica's decisions and actions.
I also get that some who empathize for Jessica...but I am not one of them. I will pray for them all but my sympathy's do NOT lay with Jessica at ALL.[/list]
suku writes: November 10, 2011 11:35 a.m.
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"Late term even but I'm pretty sure there has to be a valid medical reason to do late term abortions because the life of the fetus is viable (can survive on its own with medical assistance) and if it is viable, it is its own person. When a person becomes viable is generally between 21 and 26 weeks into gestation according to doctors but the States have defined that line differently."
Correct in that states define it differently, but partial birth abortion is practiced in California. I got no problem with cases where the abortion is performed because the baby will be severely deformed and will suffer a very short life, that's up to the parents to make that agonizing decision... But to leave it up to the "health of the mother" option as determined by the doctor can be ludicrous because that definition includes mental health, as in "Having this baby will drive the woman insane, so we're gonna kill it". That's CRAZY to me and it DOES happen, and it probably could've happened here as I'm sure that an insanity defense will be claimed... And yes, I know that it's extremely rare and very few cases happen every year, but so what? Is it any less wrong if it happens rarely or frequently?
[/list][/size]So physical deformity of the child with possible early death rather than possible mental health of the mother is one of your dividing lines. I understand, that's a grey area for me too. We have to draw lines somewhere or we wouldn't be human.[/list]
justamom writes: November 10, 2011 11:42 a.m.
5Minutes:
Having worked at JYA for a little more that a year and an experienced at risk high school teacher , let me put some minds at ease. JYA is an outstanding school that works with troubled youth that many have given up on. Phil and his staff have a passion for these kids and a hearts desire to see them set straight and equipped for adult life.
The young lady in this story most certainly has issues that we can not begin to guess or understand fully, so I wont try to here. It is beyond sad to see an innocent life terminated in this or any fashion; especially considering the baby had no ability to defend itself against it. The true definition of an innocent victim.
Now, lets think about this for 5 Minutes...
We have come to the defense of this baby, it died tragically and needlessly and its cries to be saved went unheard...
Under legal protection people kill hundreds of babies every day just as tragically, just as needlessly. They can not defend themselves and their cries go unheard. The minds and hearts of people, especially the youth, have been numbed against this barbaric action we call abortion; however is it really any different than what Jessica B did? I am NOT defending her actions by any means, I just see the value of life being diminished day by day and we now see the results in stories like this.
Think about it for 5 Minutes, it may change your mind.
[/list][/size]IMO your wrong... There is no reason that Jessica could not have taken this baby to a hospital and dropped it off.. her and her bf lives would have stayed the same.. and she would not have killed this baby... Yes people have abortions everyday.. IMO i feel the only time that is ok is in a rape case or melostaion.. or if the baby is RH-.. Thier are to many familys out there with out a baby that want to love and care for someone elses child as if there own.. after seeing how she turned out.. not sure if giving this baby to the grandparents would have been the best thing for the child.. I am not one that thinks abortion should be used for the OOPPS REASON... their is Birth control out there if u dont want a baby then use it... Birth control is not a one way use... Both the man and the women need to use it every time they have sex..
Here is what i would like to know.. Was Jessica full term when she had the baby.. or even 6-8 months along.. there is no way you can hide a naked belly... there is no way the Boyfriend would have not been able to look at her and not see that she had a baby bump... (even if it was little) And then have that bump slim down almost over night... and if you have ever had a baby you would know that you bleed for weeks after... hiding the baby from everyone else i can see.. but the boyfriend.. that would be hard... a guy is not going to go for months with out sex... JMO[/list]
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OnTarget writes: November 10, 2011 6:41 p.m.
TheKid:
She looks like a pretty scary person to begin with. She probably planned to do this from the beginning of the prenancy.
[/list][/size]How might you look, if you were being arraigned on a murder charge? Especially if you knew you were guilty?[/list]
Cato writes: November 10, 2011 8:34 p.m.
5Minutes:
Having worked at JYA for a little more that a year and an experienced at risk high school teacher , let me put some minds at ease. JYA is an outstanding school that works with troubled youth that many have given up on. Phil and his staff have a passion for these kids and a hearts desire to see them set straight and equipped for adult life.
The young lady in this story most certainly has issues that we can not begin to guess or understand fully, so I wont try to here. It is beyond sad to see an innocent life terminated in this or any fashion; especially considering the baby had no ability to defend itself against it. The true definition of an innocent victim.
Now, lets think about this for 5 Minutes...
We have come to the defense of this baby, it died tragically and needlessly and its cries to be saved went unheard...
Under legal protection people kill hundreds of babies every day just as tragically, just as needlessly. They can not defend themselves and their cries go unheard. The minds and hearts of people, especially the youth, have been numbed against this barbaric action we call abortion; however is it really any different than what Jessica B did? I am NOT defending her actions by any means, I just see the value of life being diminished day by day and we now see the results in stories like this.
Think about it for 5 Minutes, it may change your mind.
[/list][/size]THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for your wonderful post!! It is the BEST thing I have ever read on this site. I couldn't agree with you more - Thank you for saying it so well!
Sincerely, Cato's Wife[/list]
wallablu writes: November 10, 2011 10:25 p.m.
My child attended JYA as a troubled teen in the past.
No doubt, Ms Bradford deserves to stay in jail forever. 23 yrs old is more than old enough to take full responsibility for her own actions. How absolutely horrifying. What if a student had found the body? How are the students coping now? How hard must it be for the staff to deal with this whole situation?
I have JYA to thank for being able to yank my child from a bad situation into a safe and structured environment where she could re-examine herself and what her life meant to her. Rich or poor, good engaged parenting or lack thereof……does not matter. If a kid is hell bent on doing what he/she wants to do, then they will. JYA is really about behavior modification and is trustworthy and they would not be able to accomplish this without having dedicated caring staff. It’s one of the best out there.
This is bad media for a school that I believe has helped improve so many lives. They did a great job of keeping order, properly disciplining and rewarding the youth in a merit system that works. The school deserves to be around for a long time to come.
But this stmt made (printed by the San Francisco Examiner) by the owner Phil Ludwig regarding the incident needs to be called out. Academy director Phil Ludwig declined to discuss Bradford's position at the school.
"This had nothing to do with the school," Ludwig told The Record Searchlight. "This was a private residence she rented; it did not directly involve the school in any way."
Cut the crap.This had everything to do with the school.The homes are a part of the business property and is just the arrangements setup with the employees that reside there. They can literally walk out of their personal home and be on school grounds. Alot of the staff llive's on site. Ms Bradford did mentor the staff.
Their manner of employing past students needs re-examining. Never was a fan of.....There should at least be some time of separation required between being a student and becoming a part of the staff. Not all students do well after graduation. The owner(office not at the school nor does he live in the same town but does visit the school)should make some changes. They have rules about the length of time that must pass before an ex-student whom has graduated can make contact with a staff member. Seems a little contradictory when you consider their employment practices. These girls become extremely close with one another and the staff. An ex student should only be considered for employment after they have proven themselves worthy based on how they conduct themselves back in their "real world" home life after graduation has occurred.
blf9910 writes: November 11, 2011 7:57 a.m.
Makes me sick to my stomach. Pathetic excuse for a woman. They will let you drop a child off at the hospital NO QUESTIONS ASKED! I hope you suffer, and never stop thinking about the disgusting horrible thing that you did. RIP beautiful baby girl.
sourdoughnative writes: November 11, 2011 1:39 p.m.
This is definitely disturbing. It breaks all our hearts to know that innocent baby lay in a vacant building crying and screaming for her life and the one person who could help her refused. That's what this case should be tried on. Instead of building a defense of her past issues and their impact. I don't apologize for saying at the age of 23 she most definitely knew the difference between right and wrong. She absolutely knew that letting that little angel cruelly succumb to her death through dehydration and starvation was against everything any human would consider "right". Thus as a "civilized society" we have laws that govern punishment for these specific actions enacted by any person. I am certain she will be justly tried and convicted. But we all have to live with the horror that her daughter went through in the first and last 4 days of her life......so sad, so very, very sad.
IDKMuch00 writes: November 16, 2011 1:09 p.m.
A few thoughts: 1) Sure, this is the place to share opinions. I believe it's called a "comment" section. So, if you wish to describe your belief in her mental state, guilt, or ideas about her punishment, etc. go ahead. 2) I think that the related topic of abortion is also just as morally reprehensible. I think the difference in this case is a psychological one. In an abortion you don't see the child before, during, or after the act, nor do you have much in the way of responsibility afterward. In this case, the child was born (alive), willfully neglected, and then kept in a clothes basket. The confrontation with the child's cries for help, as well as the physical body for over a month and a half is difficult to relate to. 3) On the other hand, in response to my first point, I think it is helpful if commentators could provide some context to this matter. I previously worked for Julian Youth Academy and I am acquainted with Jessica, parties involved, and the "academies" practices. I will note, the intention at the school is noble. However, as in the case of most institutions created for the management/rehabilitation of youth, the application is awkward at best. I have worked for and know many people who have, and do, work for many of the local "institutions." The problem is that the staff wind-up being treated as clients, if not worse. Jessica, I can be certain, knew that if she revealed that she was pregnant, would have been fired, kicked-out of her residence with a ridiculous time-frame for eviction (3 days), as well as her boyfriend being fired & subjected to the same treatment. Sadly, I personally know individuals who were customarily dismissed, denigrated, and cut-off without the time to reconcile what was taking place. Now, I'm not saying that Jessica should be absolved of her guilt because of these facts. I do, however, believe that this fear, as well as a clear sense of selfishness, contributed greatly to her incredibly poor choices. I think the school, as well as all local institutions (Victor Youth Services, Remi Vista, Open Line, etc.) should re-evaluate the prospect of how they treat their employees and the subsequent affect it has. I believe Jessica has committed a heinous crime, one in which will be duly punished by our legal system. Given the fact that she will undoubtedly spend many years in prison, and even if not, she will be haunted by these actions for a long time. Therefore, I believe more scrutiny should be leveled toward Julian Youth Academy and other local institutions, for their practices toward those in their employ. I Don't Know Much, but it is my opinion.
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We have talked about the child in Spft. We have decided not to include the unnamed child on the victim list because the child wasn't put in the program. It was born on the campus but it never became a resident in the program.
We have just posted a blog entry where we mention the case: The 4 2011 deaths on the Fornits Wiki database covered (http://http://secret-prisons-for-teens.blogspot.com/2012/01/4-2011-deaths-on-fornits-wiki-database.html).
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We have talked about the child in Spft. We have decided not to include the unnamed child on the victim list because the child wasn't put in the program. It was born on the campus but it never became a resident in the program.
We have just posted a blog entry where we mention the case: The 4 2011 deaths on the Fornits Wiki database covered (http://http://secret-prisons-for-teens.blogspot.com/2012/01/4-2011-deaths-on-fornits-wiki-database.html).
Well... I'm inclined to disagree with you re. that victim's list. It seems to me that the effects of Julian Youth Academy's program on Jessica Bradford ... directly impacted that baby's life. That baby, completely dependent on Jessica's frame of mind, self concept, and perception of reality, had no choice but be enrolled in that program by proxy, so to speak. This goes way beyond the mere fact of having been born on campus.
...Just my 2¢, of course.
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Maybe include it as another unfortunate mention outside of the list.
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KRCR-TV
New Details About Mummified Baby's Mom; Facebook Support Group Created (http://http://www.krcrtv.com/news/29742277/detail.html)
By Shay ARTHUR
POSTED: 10:33 pm PST November 10, 2011
UPDATED: 11:05 am PST November 12, 2011
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New details about 23-year-old Jessica Bradford have emerged.
KRCR News Channel 7 spoke with a friend and former colleague of Bradford's Thursday evening. She wished to remain anonymous, but said Bradford was a mentor to girls at the Julian Youth Academy in Whitmore. The Julian Youth Academy is a privately funded Christian boarding school.
Bradford's friend said the school is a positive place for young people and believes Bradford's case is not typical of how the school operates.
KRCR News Channel Seven found that Bradford worked for a program called F.A.C.E.S.S, which stands for Fighting Against Child Exploitation and Sexual Slavery. Bradford was seen as a role model to young women in the program and had helped many girls at the school. She was always viewed as "the funny one."
The friend said Bradford often wore baggy clothes, so it was easy for her to hide her pregnancy. The young woman said she does not believe anyone at the school knew of Bradford's pregnancy, even her boyfriend of almost four years, who also worked at the school.
She said Bradford even denied having any premarital relations with her boyfriend. She described Bradford's boyfriend as quiet and said he always appeared respectful.
The anonymous friend said the campus of the Julian Youth Academy is large, with lots of vacant buildings so she could see how it was possible to keep the baby a secret.
The young woman said she was shocked that Bradford hid her baby girl's body. She said she found it difficult to believe Bradford did not feel she could reach out to anyone for help.
The former colleague said during the four days the baby was alive and allegedly hidden on the campus she said Bradfords acted strange and she often disappered, claiming she was checking on a friend.
She also said Bradford's mood changed after she had the baby. She said she seemed nicer and more open with the people at the school.
The young woman said she also remembers Bradford bringing a large fan into the room about a month ago, which she now thinks was being used to help hide the smell of the hidden baby.
She also added said Bradford's personal behavior did not change during the months she knew she was pregnant and that she continued to drink every weekend.
New information from court documents said the baby's body was found by staff member Kori Alugas in Bradford's laundry basket on Friday, Nov. 4 when she was looking for a blanket. She reported it to another staff member, Tiffany Morgan who then called Shasta County sheriff deputies Nov. 6. Bradford was arrested that day.
The documents also said Bradford told sheriff's detectives she gave birth to the baby under a deck near her dorm room so that no one would hear. An autopsy was performed on the baby's body at the Shasta County Coroner's office Monday, but because the case is a homicide the Coroner's office is not releasing any information. The baby's body is still in their care.
Bradford told to detectives she had the baby on Sept. 19. She said at first she believed the baby was a stillborn but later told detectives the infant lived for four days. Bradford told detectives after she gave birth to the baby girl she never gave her a name because she did not want to become attached to her. Bradford said after the baby died she kept the body in a utility closet then moved the body to a laundry basket, where it was eventually discovered in a mummified state.
Bradford was arragined Wednesday, but did not enter a plea, she has been assigned a public defender. Bradford is originally from the San Diego area. Her parents were present at the arraignment. She is set to be back in court Nov. 16. Her bail is set at one million dollars.
A "Support Jessica Bradford" Facebook page was created by a friend on Thursday. Listed in the "About" section, the page states "None of us agree with what Jessica did. But we still have a choice to love her through it... just as God loves us despite our sins." The page's name was later changed to "Choose To Love Jessica" because the creator did not want people to think the page was supporting what she did. The posts on the page's wall are a mixture of both positive and negative comments.
The mother of a former Julian Youth Academy student contacted KRCR News Channel 7 and said former parents of students are working to create some kind of memorial for the dead baby girl and would like to name her Katie Rose.
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What are the vacant buildings? Are they dormitories or are they old farming structures? Are they used in any capacity?
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What are the vacant buildings? Are they dormitories or are they old farming structures? Are they used in any capacity?
Apparently this campus used to be the old Cascade School (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150#p408123) (CEDU offshoot). Maybe someone from that program might know more.
"The [Julian Youth Academy] has leased a 250-acre ranch formerly known as Shepherd's Ranch and the Cascade School, east of Whitmore, since 2009."[/list]
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It is the old Cascade and Shepherd Ranch Academy campus. We have decided to give this case a special page (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Julian_Youth_Academy_campus_neglect_case) with links from the victim list page.
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Comments (http://http://www.krcrtv.com/news/29742277/detail.html) left for the above article, "New Details About Mummified Baby's Mom; Facebook Support Group Created (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&start=30#p411662)" (by Shay Arthur; November 10/12, 2011; KRCR-TV):
Jennifer Anderson · Santa Rosa High · November 11, 2011 at 2:15am
Jennifer Anderson · Santa Rosa High · November 11, 2011 at 3:09pm
I DID NOT POST THIS!!! DO NOT OPEN!! IT'S A SCAM!!!
Breanna Heydon · November 12, 2011 at 1:21am
I just noticed...lol opps.
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Alexandria Newlin · November 11, 2011 at 2:17am
I went to this "christian school" and there are many stories to be told, I can't believe it has taken this long to reach the media.
Breanna Heydon · Everest Colleges, Institutes, and Universities · November 11, 2011 at 7:11am
I went to that same school for 20 months....and I knew Jessica...Iam a mother and I think its disgusting what she did....Ive been friends with her on facebook for about two years and I think its funny how no one is mentioning all the drinking and partying she's been doing and continued to do while pregnant.
Alyssa Frazier · Nanny at Independent Contractor · November 11, 2011 at 2:23pm
Actually the article states she drank every weekend.
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Jordan Courtney Wright · November 11, 2011 at 8:47am
I went to the "school" as well... There are so many things that have happened there.. I'm suprised it is still open taking "troubled teens". Dig deeper.
Lindsae Anne · November 11, 2011 at 11:27am
Finally there is something that they can't run from. I hope the police does a full investigation there.
Dionne Lake · November 11, 2011 at 11:32am
I went to this "school" and first off, its not a school. Its a behavior modification program dressed up like a school. They are lying about her position there. She was employed by Julian Youth Academy, and she was a staff member in charge of the care of many young girls. She was also a former "student." I find it appalling that she was hired on after being a student in the program. What licensing or accreditation did she have to care for these girls? Why is it that Julian Youth Academy is hiring many former students as staff members? This subject has been brought up before. Concern about the level of qualifcation the staff have has reached the ears of the CEO, Phil Ludwig, as far back as 2008. Google Julian Youth Academy and check out the LA Times page. Its time for Phil Ludwig to start answering some serious questions. What the heck is going on over there?
Crystal Maurer · San Diego, California · November 11, 2011 at 11:41am
This story is appalling in every aspect. A friend of mine went to this school and told me of the weird things that go on there. I find it hard to believe that any decent parent would send their children here with hopes that it will help them and they would be cared for while people like this are in charge and the mentors.
Megan Goldblum · November 11, 2011 at 2:26pm
Hello My name is Megan Goldblum and I am a past student of Julian Youth Academy. I am shocked to hear the news regaurding Jessica Bradford as I'm sure none of us could predict such an act of cruelty coming from her behalf as many of us were friends with Jessica Bradford and many others looked up to her. I wanted to state that Jessica Bradfords behavior is not reflection on Julian Youth Academy. We are all responsible for our own choices and actions. Unfortunatly the incident did occure on the academys property so my concern is that the academy might be liable. My concerns for the program are the young girls that are being mentored. They are in the process of discovering themselves and making better lifestyle choices- so is this environment the best one for their growth? Also I believe that Jessica Bradford is deep down an intell...igent beautiful young lady who oviously was in need of guidence herself. My opinion is that I believe JYA needs to hire individuals who have some sort of licencing and are perhaps older that in there 20's. As I feel that when your in that age bracket in some instinces you may still need more maturing yourself. I feel that Jessica Bradford needed help and guidence herself so how could she possibly be a possitive mentor to other teen girls when she was only 23 years old and needing guidence herself. As a past student and mother myself I believe that Julian Youth Academy has changed since the previous directors retired. The Lights had a very mature and possitive influence on both the school and the students. My thoughts and prayers are with Jessica and her baby, The family, The school, and all the individuals that were effected.
Patricia McCann · December 31, 2011 at 8:48pm
I am sorry to say that while you may have admired Jessica, as an employee of Julian Youth Academy who worked as a mentor who lived on the premises, she most definitely DOES represent Julian. Her behavior was irresponsible immoral, and not acceptable in ANY civilized society-let alone a home for troubled youth with whom she has contact. Now Julian is obligated to provide outside counseling to all residents who had contact with this employee who clearly was NOT properly monitored or even properly screened prior to employment. By having Jessica on the grounds working with troubled teens, Julian did a disservice to all of its students and failed to uphold its responsibility for their safety and care. A baby killer is not considered a role model in anyone's book.
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Tracy O'Campo · November 11, 2011 at 4:39pm
Like it or not, the Julian Academy has actually helped more young women than not. Maybe it wasn't the right program for you, but don't dismiss its benefits.
Sarah Otteson Warkentin · November 12, 2011 at 9:00am
And making illegitimate opinions before one really knows the whole story and leading others astray is the same level as murder! Be careful what you say! It does have it's consequences, too!
Alexandria Newlin · November 12, 2011 at 11:22am
Sarah Otteson Warkentin How is an opinion ever illegitimate? That is why it is called an opinion, not a fact. And what consequences, are you threatening us?
Tracy O'Campo · November 13, 2011 at 12:14am
Alexandria Newlin: I did not read that she was being threatening. She was just saying that what you say, whether right or wrong, has consequences, a truth that I try to teach my kids as well.
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Breanna Greene · Shasta Lake, California · November 11, 2011 at 5:28pm
Funny...........I went there too, but I don't recognize any of you.......this place saved my life.
Emily Schneider Carrera · November 11, 2011 at 5:48pm
They should have been shut down long before now! was a student there for 10 months and 10 days. hate everything they say they are, and glad this came out and hope they loose everything. Wish I could sue them for all the stress and pain they caused me! not to mention the staff that said they had the rights to do what they did.
Sara Moody · Redding, California · November 11, 2011 at 10:46pm
Really? A support group? What the heck is wrong with you people? She MURDERED a BABY, who had NO choice but to STARVE to death while she went on with her own life? I hope all the "people" who want to love and support her, get the opportunity that this little girl had, I hope you all get to starve to death while the person you care about, and the person who is SUPPOSED to take care of you, watches you starve to death. Can you imagine what this baby had to endure? Crying for her mommy because she is so hungry, knowing her mom could hear her while she was dying and did NOTHING!
I don't care what you all THINK God would do, I think God would NEVER want his children, his angels to be killed at the hands of those who are supposed to protect them! I hope I am there with you when you all enter the gates for your Judgment day, and the one you all think would want us to forgive her and support her during her tough time, get to see the look of disappointment on his face, and my laugh as he sends you all to where you should be going..... There is something wrong with you people!
SICK b**ch!
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From crime commentator Chelsea Hoffman:
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Jessica Nicole Bradford Starved her Baby to Death (http://http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980750510)
by Chelsea Hoffman
November 10, 2011 06:35 PM EST
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Jessica Nicole Bradford is charged with murder after she starved her newborn baby to death. This horrid display of child abuse and neglect just further adds a touch of reason to those who think forced sterilization should be a form of criminal punishment.
It's being reported that 23-year-old Jessica Nicole Bradford was arrested on Sunday and charged with the murder of her daughter. This grim story is a bit disturbing, and seems to be reminiscent of a few other similar cases of bad moms lately. What the hell is wrong with some people? (http://http://www.dreamindemon.com/2011/11/10/woman-charged-with-murder-after-letting-newborn-starve-to-death/) You see, the mummified remains of a newborn infant were discovered in a utility closet of a youth academy for weird Christian kids -- from here the story just gets worse.
Jessica admitted to giving birth on the 19th of September. She hid her pregnancy from everyone, so apparently nobody knew about it. She didn't go to the hospital for her own wellbeing. Nor did she consider the tiny human life she delivered needed medical attention as well. In fact, this idiotic little puke didn't even name her newborn daughter. Instead, she hid the baby in an abandoned building, alive. She didn't care for the little girl or provide her with even the tiniest shred of a fighting chance at life. She could've taken this newborn baby girl to any hospital or other assigned "Safe Haven" drop off point.
Over a course of four days, Jessica Nicole Bradford checked periodically on the starving infant to pretty much check to see if she was dead yet. Not once in those four days did this sorry excuse for a woman think twice about what she was doing. She continued to check. As this little infant lay starving for four days until she died a horribly agonizing death, Jessica didn't even consider putting the poor little thing out of her misery.
After the baby died a horrific starvation death in four days, at literally four days old, Jessica Nicole Brock hid the little corpse in her laundry basket at home; much like the Tennessee mother Lindsey Lowe who drowned her twin newborns in a toilet and hid their corpses in her laundry hamper. After this, she transported the body to the utility closet at the youth academy where it mummified and was discovered just this past week. Women like this do not deserve to be free from whatever prison or nuthouse they wind up in. The kind of person who could allow a child to starve to death over a course of four days without so much as a second thought are the worse kind of people.
©Chelsea Hoffman is the Author of "Chloe and Louis," and the "Fear Chronicles," series of books. She also covers a myriad of true crime stories online. Visit ChelseaHoffman.Com to follow the blog and contact Chelsea directly (http://http://www.chelseahoffman.com/).
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Comments (http://http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980750510) left for the above opinion piece, "Jessica Nicole Bradford Starved her Baby to Death (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=411759#p411758)" (by Chelsea Hoffman; Nov 10, 2011; Gather.com), #s 1-20:
paul k. Nov 10, 2011, 8:00pm EST
Chelsea that is a very bias bit of media reporting .I mean report the story yes but good reporters do not give personal oppinions ,For instance women like this dont deserve to be free put her in a nuthouse .Idiotic little puke.Obviously your not a psychologist or psychiatrist do you know what frame of mind this young lady was in ? or the circumstances of the pregnancy ? it could be rape .incensual or anything do you know the facts . ? Yes it is a tradgedy and my heart goes out to the little baby ,and my prayers may her soul rest in peace .But dont condemn someone without having all the facts just because the police charged her with murder does not mean she is guilty of murder .
Shannon R. Nov 10, 2011, 8:04pm EST
I dont care what the reasons are. I dont care if she was raped and didnt want the child... she could have taken it to a hospital and left it inside the building without telling anyone she was getting rid of it. Thats a safe haven and she wouldnt be getting arrested if she did that and the baby would still be alive.
Chelsea Hoffman Nov 10, 2011, 8:13pm EST
Paul, this is a commentary site. I am a commentator. I share my opinions. You are free to either read it or not.
paul k. Nov 10, 2011, 8:29pm EST
Yes i know Chelsea and i was just giving my oppinion on the article ,Nothing personal against you ,Im sure your a beautifull person,
It was just my oppinion on the article i thought it was a bit over the top without knowing all the facts .then again i could be wrong you may very well know the whole story .If that is correct im sorry ,.This is my first day on this site and my first post it was so im not even sure what the go is .Just when i read your commentary my first oppinion was that is very bias reporting .As for the baby iam very saddened that these sorts of things still happen in our society in this day and age .
Chelsea Hoffman Nov 10, 2011, 8:32pm EST
yah, your opinion that this is "biased reporting" is based on a "commentary website" by a "commentator."
I am supposed to be biased, that is why I am not a reporter, but a commentator. Sorry that's gone over your head :(
At any rate, I hope you've accomplished whatever complaining about my opinions may have accomplished for you, personally.
Thanks for commenting! :)
Jenna B. Nov 10, 2011, 9:04pm EST
I happen to love the way you described this human piece of sh-t. She is not worth the air she breathes!
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Shannon R. Nov 10, 2011, 8:02pm EST
Ugh this just makes me so sick I cant even stomach this one. I am so saddened for that poor baby.
paul k. Nov 10, 2011, 8:18pm EST
shannon in no way am i justifying or trying to justify what happened to the baby ,These sorts of cases also make me sick to the stomach .My point i was trying to make is the name calling and inuendo and the pressumption of innocence till we know what the facts really are .Condemming without trial ,bias reporting ,that was the point i was making .I prefer to see evidence and see a defence before condeming someone .No where does the reporter say the word alledgedly ,the headline is sensationalising starved her baby to death ?,then there is the call for sterilisation ,lol without even having a hearing .
Chelsea Hoffman Nov 10, 2011, 8:20pm EST
(you keep mistaking for a reporter. I'll give you time to look up the definition of "commentator" before you come back, because you really should at least know the diff, even though you've already been told differently. Sorry you have a problem with people sharing their opinions on commentary websites -- maybe stick to CNN for "reports" )
paul k. Nov 10, 2011, 8:38pm EST
okay Chelsea your right i keep saying reporter and im sorry i thought that is what it was ,No i dont watch CNN im Australian we dont watch that crap over here ... .Chill out i did say my mistake .Was not looking for a argument just giving my oppinion .I jumped the gun not realising its just a commentary oppinion .SORRY Chelsea
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Jenna B. Nov 10, 2011, 9:11pm EST
What is very sad about this case.....some damn defense lawyer will scream post partum depression and she'll get a very minimal sentence! And, Jennifer Nicole Bradford is much worse than an "idioc little puke"! She is evil! Anyone who can let a little baby starve to death and check everyday to see if the baby is still alive deserves worse than the fires of HELL!
paul k. Nov 11, 2011, 1:17am EST
Well Jenna there is some truth to what you say ,and makes me wonder also anyone that can go see the baby everyday and watch the baby starve to death is more then just unusual but would border along the lines of insanity . As was my first post i said you have to know the whole facts what sort of frame of mind this person was in ..And No iam not sticking up for her at all ,Im a father of 8 kids myself and a grandfather of 8 .I could never imagine why these things happen but they do .
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Kory ha Nov 10, 2011, 10:49pm EST
No even post pardom wknt justify that nonsence it is sickening.. She js the devil.. A woman who carries a child for 9 months then just starves it.. No this woman deserves let me say again DESERVES forced sterilization.. She should never have a child.. Poor baby girl.. What is up with all these mothers today.. I knkw I would never hurt my babies yet all these women are giving moms bad names :( I hate this...
anthony diaz Nov 10, 2011, 10:50pm EST
How do you know the kids at the academy are weird Christians. The story doesn't mention anything about the attendees of the school. Seems a bit presumptive. Fine if you're a commentator and add your opinion, I get that but at least be accurate.
Chelsea Hoffman Nov 10, 2011, 10:54pm EST
would "academy for weird baby-starving single moms?" been better for ya?
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anthony diaz Nov 10, 2011, 11:54pm EST
Well, that's plural and as far as I've read this is an isolated incident involving one individual's choices. Generalizing and assuming will get us nowhere. Let's not get it twisted, were looking at an individual who already did that.
Chelsea Hoffman Nov 11, 2011, 12:05am EST
paul k. Nov 11, 2011, 1:34am EST
Looking forward to seeing the end result on this one Chelsea ,Can you please keep me posted and upto date ?As we dont get much of the american news in OZ .
Chelsea Hoffman Nov 11, 2011, 1:39am EST
:) paul, a I always try to keep up with the updates of cases like these follow my twitter or add me on here and you'll see the updates (if they become available )
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Amy Gary Nov 11, 2011, 12:18pm EST
She worked/lived as a counselor at a home for "troubled" teens that were sent there because of bad behavior. What I don't understand is how she could hide the baby at this home where there are so many people. Didn't the baby cry? Why isn't the school being investigated as well?
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Chelsea Hoffman Nov 11, 2011, 12:34pm EST
@amy -- that's interesting to know and thanks for sharing that info --
evidently, she didn't give birth there or kill the baby there... She put it in an abandoned building until it was dead then she transported it around until it wound up at the facility. :(
Amy Gary Nov 11, 2011, 12:56pm EST
ok, from other articles I read, it sounded like she had the baby at the facility and kept it on an abandoned building on campus, maybe I misread the other articles. that would make more sense about no one knowing. But the way that "school" works is 4 days/nights on 3 days/nights off, but the staff stays/lives on campus even on days off. Really, no one noticed she was prego? I just really am questioning the school because I have heard so many other horror stories about Julian Youth Academy/Teen Rescue. I am in no way trying to turn the story around, this woman obviously had major issues and this baby deserves justice. But many other staff members at this facility are sick and they are supposed to be helping troubled teenagers. If this woman treated her own infant this way at this school, imagine how the "students" are treated every day. This school is labeled a "boarding school" but is really a "reform school" where innocent children are trapped. I have tried to use the information I have gathered from former students/parents/staff to bring them down, but they are protected somehow. I was hoping this incident might bring questioning on the school itself. I guess not.
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Jennifer Bell Nov 15, 2011, 2:16pm EST
I myself went to this "reform school" from 1999-2001. It was traumatizing for many reasons, but the main issue is their manipulation. It is in my opinion extremely emotionally abusive. I have so many things to say about the school but don't know where to start. I agree that the school should be under investigation. An interesting point to mention is that the baby's body was found 2 days before the police were called. I asked the woman who reported the information directly about this (she was a "student" with me 10 years ago and is now basically running the place as staff)... she was careful because of legal reasons, but she hinted at the fact that when she was first found "It was around halloween" and someone thought it was a prank. I know this is graphic, but ARE YOU SERIOUS...what about the smell? Something is not right. Something doesn't add up. I encourage all questions anyone may have for me regarding this matter. Please, ask away. I can't sleep at night. There are a group of us that are furious with the way the CEO of the "academy" has responded to this horrific event, quoted as saying "This has nothing to do with the school." Ya right. We need facts. Oh, and don't bother trying to look up JYA on google, the official site is suddenly "Down for Maintenance." Not to mention the fact that Phil Ludwig blocked any girls that were asking him questions regarding the matter on our private facebook group. More attention should be paid to this. Chelsea, thank you for posting this.
I mourn this innocent baby's death deeply. Rest in peace, sweet darling.
Jennifer Bell Nov 15, 2011, 2:19pm EST
Chelsea, it is reported that Jessica had the baby ON CAMPUS under a deck by her room. She hid it in a laundry basket in HER CLOSET for 6 weeks. She lived on campus. When another staff found the baby, and Jessica found out, she then moved the baby to a utility closet on campus. Two days later authorities were called.
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Woman accused of starving her baby to death pleads not guilty (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/16/woman-accused-starving-her-baby-death-pleads-not-g/)
By Record Searchlight staff
Posted November 16, 2011 at 5:17 p.m., updated November 16, 2011 at 5:17 p.m.
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Jessica Bradford
A Shasta County woman accused of murdering her 4-day-old daughter pleaded not guilty this afternoon in Shasta County Superior Court.
Jessica Nicole Bradford, 23, who is being represented by the Shasta County public defender's office, is scheduled to return to court on Nov. 30 for the setting of a preliminary hearing date.
Bradford is charged with murder, child abuse and a related enhancement in connection with her baby's death. She faces life in prison if convicted of the charges against her.
Shasta County sheriff's deputies arrested Bradford on Nov. 7 after she allegedly allowed her 4-day-old daughter to starve to death.
The baby's mummified body was found Nov. 6 at the Julian Youth Academy in Whitmore where Bradford worked as a staff member for the private Christian boarding school for troubled teens.
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thumper6977 writes: November 16, 2011 5:28 p.m.
I think they need to put her on bread & water for 60 days to let her see how it feels.....
ThisIsRedding writes: November 16, 2011 5:32 p.m.
"...where Bradford worked as a staff member for the private Christian boarding school for troubled teens."
Wow - she is barely an adult herself.
Sad and unfortunate all the way around.
Prancer3 writes: November 16, 2011 5:33 p.m.
Good idea Thumper...but NO bread. Did the baby get anything.....no she didn't. This selfish egotisical girl did too starve that baby. Did she think a newborn could drive herself to McDonalds for a Happy Meal...geez what is the matter with people?
buster6 writes: November 16, 2011 5:34 p.m.
thumper6977:
I think they need to put her on bread & water for 60 days to let her see how it feels.....
[/list][/size]You are being to nice. The baby didn't even get that.[/list]
randy writes: November 16, 2011 5:34 p.m.
How is it I wonder that some of the most sickeningly perverted crimes happen within the "Christian" community.
Decades of child molestation being tolerated in the Catholic church, local church leaders caught molesting family members, the Canadian, Christian run boarding school for Native Americans caught molesting and then murdering kids and burying them in mass graves.
I think perverts are just attracted to the gullible environment of churches.
Reddingite001 writes: November 16, 2011 5:47 p.m.
Another little angel god needed in heaven :(
JohnDixon writes: November 16, 2011 5:59 p.m.
The lack of understanding the sanctity of life is sad and her not wanting to bond with the child but not willing to give it up is ugly.
Cycotron writes: November 16, 2011 6:02 p.m.
FIRST lets stop calling this monster a mother. Secondly the ordasity of this person to plea not gulty is absurd. MUMMIFIDE BODY!!! HELLO!
dalton writes: November 16, 2011 6:02 p.m.
randy:
How is it I wonder that some of the most sickeningly perverted crimes happen within the "Christian" community.
Decades of child molestation being tolerated in the Catholic church, local church leaders caught molesting family members, the Canadian, Christian run boarding school for Native Americans caught molesting and then murdering kids and burying them in mass graves.
I think perverts are just attracted to the gullible environment of churches.
[/list][/size]Just like the econuts attached to the religion of global warming.[/list]
Prancer3 writes: November 16, 2011 6:10 p.m.
Cycotron:
FIRST lets stop calling this monster a mother. Secondly the ordasity of this person to plea not gulty is absurd. MUMMIFIDE BODY!!! HELLO!
[/list][/size]Yes, exactly. You hit it right on.[/list]
MyBad writes: November 16, 2011 6:11 p.m.
Cycotron:
FIRST lets stop calling this monster a mother. Secondly the ordasity of this person to plea not gulty is absurd. MUMMIFIDE BODY!!! HELLO!
[/list][/size]What's with these sick, demented people that say they are NOT guilty of the henious crimes they've committed!!! There's the kid that stabbed that poor homeless man to death is pleading NOT guilty after admitting he did it, and they have it on video, and now this!!
I can't believe the public defenders office has the stomach or sense of justice to actually encourage these clients to plead NOT guilty! What is wrong with this picture!!![/list]
concernedredding writes: November 16, 2011 6:21 p.m.
Look, I'm not an attorney nor do I play one on T.V. I believe all these people that plead not guilty straight up when they obviously are, do so based on our legal system. After pleading not guilty, I think then they are able to have a settlement conference with the DA and get a potential "plea deal" which is most likely better than what she would get if she goes to jury trial. I think it's a cost-saving tactic, if you don't go to trial you get a lighter sentence. I believe it's just a dance that our legal system plays.
Of course, I could be wrong, but in this case, I don't think I am.
HomeinTrinity writes: November 16, 2011 6:23 p.m.
randy:
How is it I wonder that some of the most sickeningly perverted crimes happen within the "Christian" community.
Decades of child molestation being tolerated in the Catholic church, local church leaders caught molesting family members, the Canadian, Christian run boarding school for Native Americans caught molesting and then murdering kids and burying them in mass graves.
I think perverts are just attracted to the gullible environment of churches.
[/list][/size]Just a thought, but there is major differences between Christianity and Catholicism. First off, Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus. Catholicism is based on the teachings of men. Christians throughout history have been martyred for their beliefs. Catholics did the martyring (notice how it sounds like murdering?). Christians worship the Living God Jesus Christ. Catholics worship His mom. I took the time to do the research to find out the differences. It is to my understanding that the references you used were either Catholics or agnostics. So please, before you accuse Christians of committing those acts, it would behoove one to research the actual facts.
Man is inherently sinful. This is the reason so many horrible things happen. If he/she were to turn their life over to Jesus Christ, they would not want to commit these crimes. But, Because one Man did what no other could do, all of our sins and transgressions have been forgiven. All we have to do is accept the offer and repent of our sins. The only question is: Will You?[/list]
MyBad writes: November 16, 2011 6:49 p.m.
concernedredding:
Look, I'm not an attorney nor do I play one on T.V. I believe all these people that plead not guilty straight up when they obviously are, do so based on our legal system. After pleading not guilty, I think then they are able to have a settlement conference with the DA and get a potential "plea deal" which is most likely better than what she would get if she goes to jury trial. I think it's a cost-saving tactic, if you don't go to trial you get a lighter sentence. I believe it's just a dance that our legal system plays.
Of course, I could be wrong, but in this case, I don't think I am.
[/list][/size]Well, it's a SICK dance if you ask me!!! What is the problem with just calling a murderer a murderer!!!! What is in our legal system that caters to the criminal giving them a way to beat the system out of a death sentence? Both these henious people need to be put to death in my book! Eye for an eye!!!
So now we'll have to support them for the next five or ten years then they'll be out to kill and kill again! The system sucks!!![/list]
Lillybee writes: November 16, 2011 6:54 p.m.
would like to see someone look into this school.
I think that something odd is going on there.
The school's web page has been off line for maintenance for about a week. Other pages referring to it have been taken down.
This school has only 13 students and one teacher.
The non profit that this woman was alleged to work for F.A.C.E.S.S. has no internet presence.
RDH writes: November 16, 2011 6:59 p.m.
Who is this baby's father?Does he run the "school"?
MADDMom writes: November 16, 2011 7:03 p.m.
Funny that the father of this baby, who happens to work at the school, is left out of this entire story! Unless she weighs 400 lbs, you can't hide a pregnancy from your boyfriend!! Some Christian environment the school provides! He isn't even man enough to step up to his part in the crime. Maybe a married Christian man.......? Just guessing!
concernedredding writes: November 16, 2011 7:07 p.m.
MyBad:
Well, it's a SICK dance if you ask me!!! What is the problem with just calling a murderer a murderer!!!! What is in our legal system that caters to the criminal giving them a way to beat the system out of a death sentence? Both these henious people need to be put to death in my book! Eye for an eye!!!
So now we'll have to support them for the next five or ten years then they'll be out to kill and kill again! The system sucks!!!
[/list][/size]I agree. This is how are legal system works or so I believe. Like I said, I'm not an attorney but all clients, for the most part are advised to plead not guilty. Then they get settlement conferences and pre-trial B.S. and at any time, the D.A. can offer and normally do offer a "plea deal" up until the jury deliberates and actually comes back into court.
I don't know but you may have been on jury service and either excused prior to actually going into court and thanked for your service.
Or . . . you may have served on a jury only be told that they have reached a deal and still thanked for your service.[/list]
ReddingCritic writes: November 16, 2011 7:17 p.m.
am wondering why the R/S. does not identify the school. The name of the school seems pertinent to the story as the baby was found by school staff on school property, and the perpetrator was employed by the school.
It seems to me that the state licensing people should be evaluating this school and their process for screening their employees. Note also that although school employees found the body on Friday, they did not call the police until Sunday.
So why is the name of the school a big secret at the R/S?
Lillybee writes: November 16, 2011 7:22 p.m.
ReddingCritic:
I am wondering why the R/S. does not identify the school. The name of the school seems pertinent to the story as the baby was found by school staff on school property, and the perpetrator was employed by the school.
It seems to me that the state licensing people should be evaluating this school and their process for screening their employees. Note also that although school employees found the body on Friday, they did not call the police until Sunday.
So why is the name of the school a big secret at the R/S?
[/list][/size]^The school is the Julian Christian Academy. It was named in the very first story and no longer mentioned.[/list]
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waganupawest writes: November 16, 2011 7:23 p.m.
HomeinTrinity::
Just a thought, but there is major differences between Christianity and Catholicism. First off, Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus. Catholicism is based on the teachings of men. Christians throughout history have been martyred for their beliefs. Catholics did the martyring (notice how it sounds like murdering?). Christians worship the Living God Jesus Christ. Catholics worship His mom. I took the time to do the research to find out the differences. It is to my understanding that the references you used were either Catholics or agnostics. So please, before you accuse Christians of committing those acts, it would behoove one to research the actual facts.
Man is inherently sinful. This is the reason so many horrible things happen. If he/she were to turn their life over to Jesus Christ, they would not want to commit these crimes. But, Because one Man did what no other could do, all of our sins and transgressions have been forgiven. All we have to do is accept the offer and repent of our sins. The only question is: Will You?
[/list][/size]It's all based on the teachings of men. Life's hard, so if it takes the crutch of invisible friends and fairytales to make it down the road that's fine. What isn't fine is all the killing and cruelty in the name of some cockeyed religious righteousness.[/list]
booboo (Inactive) writes: November 16, 2011 7:26 p.m.
am appauled at this girl..she had 9 months and a long time to confide in someone to help guide her due to her pregnancy and yet she lets it starve for days? This isn't anything close to thinking normal...Even for a young 23 year old there is no excuse..Not here, not today... :(
MyBad writes: November 16, 2011 8:31 p.m.
concernedredding:
I agree. This is how are legal system works or so I believe. Like I said, I'm not an attorney but all clients, for the most part are advised to plead not guilty. Then they get settlement conferences and pre-trial B.S. and at any time, the D.A. can offer and normally do offer a "plea deal" up until the jury deliberates and actually comes back into court.
I don't know but you may have been on jury service and either excused prior to actually going into court and thanked for your service.
Or . . . you may have served on a jury only be told that they have reached a deal and still thanked for your service.
[/list][/size]Never served on a jury in my life, not that I haven't wanted to tho. In this situation they may not accept me because I would be too biased. BUT, in all fairness, I still have a problem with our judicial system allowing CONFESSED criminals to go through the expensive judicial process of a jury trial, then getting off in five or so years just because they behave themselves in the penal system - only to kill again.
You comments suggest you are more 'intune' with the process than you let on. I expect you would be an interesting person to interview one on one. :-) [/list]
jjasper writes: November 16, 2011 8:48 p.m.
Lillybee:
^The school is the Julian Christian Academy. It was named in the very first story and no longer mentioned.
[/list][/size]Ha yeah. Most of the comments are boring repeats.[/list]
Odious writes: November 16, 2011 9:11 p.m.
MyBad:
Well, it's a SICK dance if you ask me!!! What is the problem with just calling a murderer a murderer!!!! What is in our legal system that caters to the criminal giving them a way to beat the system out of a death sentence? Both these henious people need to be put to death in my book! Eye for an eye!!!
So now we'll have to support them for the next five or ten years then they'll be out to kill and kill again! The system sucks!!!
[/list][/size]The system was built so that the government could not just point fingers and chop off heads.
Due process.
I support what is left of it.[/list]
randy writes: November 16, 2011 9:49 p.m.
HomeinTrinity:
Just a thought, but there is major differences between Christianity and Catholicism. First off, Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus. Catholicism is based on the teachings of men. Christians throughout history have been martyred for their beliefs. Catholics did the martyring (notice how it sounds like murdering?). Christians worship the Living God Jesus Christ. Catholics worship His mom. I took the time to do the research to find out the differences. It is to my understanding that the references you used were either Catholics or agnostics. So please, before you accuse Christians of committing those acts, it would behoove one to research the actual facts.
Man is inherently sinful. This is the reason so many horrible things happen. If he/she were to turn their life over to Jesus Christ, they would not want to commit these crimes. But, Because one Man did what no other could do, all of our sins and transgressions have been forgiven. All we have to do is accept the offer and repent of our sins. The only question is: Will You?
[/list][/size]I turn my life over to no one as I hold ultimate responsibility for my being and all choices I make I must own on my own.
Religious belief does not "wash away" the sins of those sexual predators secured in the church any more than it will erase the damage done the to victims of their crimes.[/list]
right1baby writes: November 16, 2011 9:53 p.m.
no plea deal. no life in prison. simply straight to the electric chair. no other alternative need be considered.
right1baby writes: November 16, 2011 10:01 p.m.
California needs to wake up and get serious about crimes against children. Baby killers, child rapists and the agencies "supervising" these criminals need to be severely punished for allowing this to happen. These kinds of people cannot be "rehabilitated". They need to be ereased off the face of the planet. Crimes against children is a serious problem, not politics, religion or the effing environment.
MyBad writes: November 16, 2011 10:09 p.m.
randy:
I turn my life over to no one as I hold ultimate responsibility for my being and all choices I make I must own on my own.
Religious belief does not "wash away" the sins of those sexual predators secured in the church any more than it will erase the damage done the to victims of their crimes.
[/list][/size]What some religious beliefs tend to forget, is that even tho they may be "forgiven for their sin" doesn't mean they don't have to pay the penalty for it. The sins of a sexual predator may be 'washed away' if he truly repents and is sorry for what he did, with no intention of ever committing that sin again, BUT he still has to pay the price for that crime. No where in the "Book" does it say just because someone repented of a sin, do they go without punishment. If a 'church' tells you that, they're WRONG!!![/list]
knothead writes: November 16, 2011 10:29 p.m.
booboo:
I am appauled at this girl..she had 9 months and a long time to confide in someone to help guide her due to her pregnancy and yet she lets it starve for days? This isn't anything close to thinking normal...Even for a young 23 year old there is no excuse..Not here, not today... :(
[/list][/size]We often disagree, not this time! Good, thoughtful post.[/list]
charly3947 writes: November 16, 2011 11:34 p.m.
HomeinTrinity:
Just a thought, but there is major differences between Christianity and Catholicism. First off, Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus. Catholicism is based on the teachings of men. Christians throughout history have been martyred for their beliefs. Catholics did the martyring (notice how it sounds like murdering?). Christians worship the Living God Jesus Christ. Catholics worship His mom. I took the time to do the research to find out the differences. It is to my understanding that the references you used were either Catholics or agnostics. So please, before you accuse Christians of committing those acts, it would behoove one to research the actual facts.
Man is inherently sinful. This is the reason so many horrible things happen. If he/she were to turn their life over to Jesus Christ, they would not want to commit these crimes. But, Because one Man did what no other could do, all of our sins and transgressions have been forgiven. All we have to do is accept the offer and repent of our sins. The only question is: Will You?
[/list][/size]First of all, Catholicism is Jesus based. We use his teachings in our Mass. We worship him as our savior. Your research (if you really did it) is incorrect. We do not worship Mary. We venerate her for her williness to be the flesh mother of our Lord Jesus Christ. We love her as one would their own mother. And just as one keeps pictures, or art work, or physical likeness of someone deeply loved and looks at them with fondness; so too do we with Mary. Our pictures of our loved ones are used by us as a reminder of our beloved and how much we love them. So too, are the pictures and statues of Mary used in the same way. Just as many houses have pictures of the people who are important to them, out of love for them. You do not consider looking at those pictures, talking to those picture with love in your heart as whorshiping them. We use pictures and statues of Mary as a way of connecting with her in our hearts. They are ways of focusing on our love for her. Just as one looks at "mom's" picture with love.
There is a difference between love and worship.
There are evil people in all walks of life in every church and organization. We are given free will by our Father God to choose the good path or the bad. Some people choose evil. It is not the church making that choice.[/list]
galex66 writes: November 16, 2011 11:52 p.m.
Lillybee:
I would like to see someone look into this school.
I think that something odd is going on there.
The school's web page has been off line for maintenance for about a week. Other pages referring to it have been taken down.
This school has only 13 students and one teacher.
The non profit that this woman was alleged to work for F.A.C.E.S.S. has no internet presence.
[/list][/size]I went to the school, there are lots of ex-students and parents of ex-students trying to get the school looked at. There are more than 13 students and more than one staff, there is no accredited teacher. If you want more information. Feel free to send me a message or write me on here. The user agreement limits all I can say on here but am willing to talk to anyone who wants to know more.[/list]
thumper6977 writes: November 17, 2011 3:54 a.m.
Prancer3:
Good idea Thumper...but NO bread. Did the baby get anything.....no she didn't. This selfish egotisical girl did too starve that baby. Did she think a newborn could drive herself to McDonalds for a Happy Meal...geez what is the matter with people?
[/list][/size]I actually had a better solution but retracted it. I would have been banned for life had I posted it....[/list]
raydan4208 writes: November 17, 2011 5:17 a.m.
I have reviewed many of these site types since Jessica did what she did...but this one was more outspoken than most which is why I felt the need to comment!!I am not, in any way or form, trying to JUSTIFY what Jessica did...IT'S AWFUL AND IM DISGUSTED NOT TO MENTION DISAPPOINTED.AT THIS POINT I'VE ACCEPTED WHAT HAS HAPPENED AS REALITY;IT'S FINALLY SUNK IN...HOWEVER...IT TOOK A SINCE SHE WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY UNTIL YESTERDAY.I knew Jessica PERSONALLY;she was my Friend;and I can't speak for her...I have no idea what she was thinking when she made this choice which she seems to have obviously made so early on in her pregnancy judging from what the News Sites have said she did each and every weekend that she was pregnant with this precious little girl...I met her as a Student at JYA...we were both attended AS STUDENTS at the time of Friendship.She Graduated JYA[JULIAN YOUTH ACADEMY;
raydan4208 writes: November 17, 2011 5:18 a.m.
judge...who are any of us to...In God's Eyes...a SIN IS A SIN...the only Sin that is unforgivable in which case is not equal to any Sin
[as all Sins are equal in God's Eyes except one]is Blasphemy...which this is not!!!!On many levels I agree with all of you...but on many others I don't.She was a good person...and still is...she just made a POOR choice!!!!!!!!!!JYA IS NOT A BAD PLACE!!!I need everyone to understand this.And to whomever posted that JYA has 1 staff and 13 students...THATS NOT TRUE!F.A.C.E.S.S. is the overall corporation...JYA is just a branch of it...which is where Jessica and myself attended years ago as Students.There are MANY Staff Members overseeing a group of 45-50 Girls...maybe more...and there is now a Boys side of the Program of which both Sexes do not MESH...they never see eachother.Jessicas Boyfriend did NOT know of the pregnancy...you are to stay Celibate while a Staff in the Program which is clearly an indicator that you're a follower of Christ!!!!!It clearly[/list]
raydan4208 writes: November 17, 2011 5:20 a.m.
the very Program this incident took place...but she was Staff Member at this point...not a student]before I did and I later Graduated after she had come back a Staff Member.Jessicas Spirit was always calming.She was so full of life...funny to no end...and comforting to all.She was strong in Christ...even the strongest of Faith make mistakes...and this just so happens to be HUGE.She will have to answer to God...and that scares me more for her than whats she is currently going through!I believe in "AN EYE FOR AN EYE"...friend or not...she needs to be served justice at it's best for this type of case...shes no better than any other Woman who's done this to their Child whom I didn't know...I view her through the same eyes...I'm just deeply hurt and confused at this point...I feel some sort of betrayal and my heart aches for her Family;Boyfriend
[whom I guess would be considered an EX now]and that poor Child who[/list]
raydan4208 writes: November 17, 2011 5:20 a.m.
never got a chance!She had a full support system...FULL...and she selfishly chose to not take them into consideration;she allowed FEAR to overcome her better sense of judgement...she opened the door to SATAN HIMSELF and left all Trust in Christ behind.He would've delivered for her...but she chose not to listen...and thats what doesnt make sense!Who am I to states in one of the News Sites that Jessica was asked by 1 Staff Member if she was Pregnant as she started gaining more weight than she normally did
[she was a heavy set girl...her weight always drastically fluctuated]and she responded "HOW CAN I BE PREGNANT IF IM CELIBATE?" There was nothing more they could do from there but trust her...it was out of their minds[/list]
raydan4208 writes: November 17, 2011 5:21 a.m.
that she would do something this horrible!!!!!!!!!!It also states in one of the News Sites how she hid the pregnancy and how she had the baby/where she had the baby with no assistance and no interruption!!!!You call need to understand these Staff aren't there for eachother...they're there for the sole support of those Girls and Boys who so desperately need their attention and guidance...take it from me...I know FIRST HAND!They love us unconditionally...no matter the mistakes we've made before being sent there or make while we're there including after we've left.Stop judging the Program and making it out to be something it's not...Jessica is not defined by where she works...she made her mistakes on her own and theres no justifying that!It's wrong and Justice needs to be SERVED in honor of that Precious life that was selfishly Taken in early September!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prancer3 writes: November 17, 2011 5:45 a.m.
right1baby:
no plea deal. no life in prison. simply straight to the electric chair. no other alternative need be considered.
[/list][/size]Is the electric chair even still plugged in? If not...plug it IN, dust it off and get it ready...you are right.[/list]
Prancer3 writes: November 17, 2011 5:52 a.m.
humper6977:
I actually had a better solution but retracted it. I would have been banned for life had I posted it....
[/list][/size]I know...geez. You'd be Thumper6978.....[/list][/list]
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Comments (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/16/woman-accused-starving-her-baby-death-pleads-not-g/) left for the above article, "Woman accused of starving her baby to death pleads not guilty (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=411814#p411771)" (by Record Searchlight staff; November 16, 2011; Record Searchlight), #s 41-53:
Cynicalone writes: November 17, 2011 8:03 a.m.
Odious:
The system was built so that the government could not just point fingers and chop off heads.
Due process.
I support what is left of it.
[/list][/size]Thank you Odious for being one of the few that understands and defends our constitutional process on here...as you said, whats left of it. Her testimony, other witnesses, and the facts need to be presented for an official record. Most of these folks will apparently believe anything that is written in the paper, take it literally and become judge, jury, and executioner.
Ive had my head bitten off (grows back) for defending these people long enough to get the entire story. It seems that a picture and a newspaper article gives some folks the right to say whatever they want. I understand how they feel and want nothing short of justice for this kid, that transient, and every other victim in our community. The problem is all the facts need to be presented and presided over in a non-biased atmosphere. Until you or someone you care about is on the hot seat, you just dont appreciate what that means.[/list]
bdupre writes: November 17, 2011 8:10 a.m.
RDH:
Who is this baby's father?Does he run the "school"?
[/list][/size]Good question. My thought too.[/list]
thumper6977 writes: November 17, 2011 8:15 a.m.
Prancer3:
I know...geez. You'd be Thumper6978.....
[/list][/size]Wow, I hope not! There is a reason for the 6977... :) [/list]
IDKMuch00 writes: November 17, 2011 12:56 p.m.
bdupre:
Good question. My thought too.
[/list][/size]No, he doesn't run the school. Phil runs the school. I do know this first hand.[/list]
IDKMuch00 writes: November 17, 2011 12:59 p.m.
Cynicalone:
Thank you Odious for being one of the few that understands and defends our constitutional process on here...as you said, whats left of it. Her testimony, other witnesses, and the facts need to be presented for an official record. Most of these folks will apparently believe anything that is written in the paper, take it literally and become judge, jury, and executioner.
Ive had my head bitten off (grows back) for defending these people long enough to get the entire story. It seems that a picture and a newspaper article gives some folks the right to say whatever they want. I understand how they feel and want nothing short of justice for this kid, that transient, and every other victim in our community. The problem is all the facts need to be presented and presided over in a non-biased atmosphere. Until you or someone you care about is on the hot seat, you just dont appreciate what that means.
[/list][/size]Yes, I agree. The media is a biased, commercial entity, well known for distorting facts. I think it's wise to reserve judgement. However, this is a comment section. Comments vary in length, insight, and emotionalism. They are generally all valid "comments" nonetheless.[/list]
IDKMuch00 writes: November 17, 2011 1:09 p.m.
randy:
I turn my life over to no one as I hold ultimate responsibility for my being and all choices I make I must own on my own.
Religious belief does not "wash away" the sins of those sexual predators secured in the church any more than it will erase the damage done the to victims of their crimes.
[/list][/size]The last time I checked, there was not a single institution that didn't have gullible people or heinous skeletons in the closet. I agree that anyone, regardless of faith, who commits a crime, should be punished for it. I think, just because you change the oil in your car, it doesn't make you a mechanic. Thus, if you've met Christians, or went to church as a kid, it doesn't really make you an expert. Sure, some Christians do stupid things. If they ask for forgiveness, it's their God who forgives them, not the belief that man should assuage any guilt for it. There are stupid/selfish/mean/(insert whatever you wish...) people everywhere. I don't think that it means some institution they belong to or belief they hold should automatically be denigrated because of it. They would be stupid/selfish... no matter what they believed.[/list]
IDKMuch00 writes: November 17, 2011 1:19 p.m.
raydan4208:
that she would do something this horrible!!!!!!!!!!It also states in one of the News Sites how she hid the pregnancy and how she had the baby/where she had the baby with no assistance and no interruption!!!!You call need to understand these Staff aren't there for eachother...they're there for the sole support of those Girls and Boys who so desperately need their attention and guidance...take it from me...I know FIRST HAND!They love us unconditionally...no matter the mistakes we've made before being sent there or make while we're there including after we've left.Stop judging the Program and making it out to be something it's not...Jessica is not defined by where she works...she made her mistakes on her own and theres no justifying that!It's wrong and Justice needs to be SERVED in honor of that Precious life that was selfishly Taken in early September!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/list][/size]I'm not sure if you're a current employee who is too afraid to mention it, but I don't believe you have it all right. I worked for JYA for a time during Jessica's employ. I will say, my impression is quite different from your own. People disagree, that's a given. However, I do think that JYA has more of a role to play than you indicate. The goal of the company, while good, creates some serious misapplication. I posted it before and I will post it again. Given the mistake Jessica made (pre-marital sex), while not condoned by JYA policy, she was fully aware of the severe consequences. I personally know of a number of people who have suffered ridiculous consequences from JYA admin, for far less. Given that Jessica's boyfriend as well as her own life was completely wrapped-up in the school; it's a daunting task to face given her mistake. I'm not justifying in any way. The clearly dysfunctional thought process she went through to come-up with what the media says she did it insane (if true). My point is, JYA does have a role to play and at the very least, they should seriously consider how they treat their employees. No, this isn't some personal vendetta . My employment, while unpleasant given their structure, was terminated amenably.[/list]
Cynicalone writes: November 17, 2011 2:38 p.m.
raydan4208:
that she would do something this horrible!!!!!!!!!!It also states in one of the News Sites how she hid the pregnancy and how she had the baby/where she had the baby with no assistance and no interruption!!!!You call need to understand these Staff aren't there for eachother...they're there for the sole support of those Girls and Boys who so desperately need their attention and guidance...take it from me...I know FIRST HAND!They love us unconditionally...no matter the mistakes we've made before being sent there or make while we're there including after we've left.Stop judging the Program and making it out to be something it's not...Jessica is not defined by where she works...she made her mistakes on her own and theres no justifying that!It's wrong and Justice needs to be SERVED in honor of that Precious life that was selfishly Taken in early September!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/list][/size]Raydan- decaf. Satan isnt usually up before 9am to defend himself or his followers. Spare us the drrrraaaamaaaaa..its over.[/list]
concernedredding writes: November 17, 2011 6:57 p.m.
MyBad:
Never served on a jury in my life, not that I haven't wanted to tho. In this situation they may not accept me because I would be too biased. BUT, in all fairness, I still have a problem with our judicial system allowing CONFESSED criminals to go through the expensive judicial process of a jury trial, then getting off in five or so years just because they behave themselves in the penal system - only to kill again.
You comments suggest you are more 'intune' with the process than you let on. I expect you would be an interesting person to interview one on one. :-)
[/list][/size]Look, I am just an educated individual, who looked into law at one point or another. I did choose to get a BA in business and have just started a MA also in business as well.
However, if you were to look into the normal trial process, you may as well choose to come up with the same outlook. It goes something like this to me (which you are free to differ with)
• Arraignment, which defendant can choose to enter in a plea or not (which most enter a not guilty plea)
• If a defendant enters a not guilty plea it usually goes to a settlement conference ( a chance to negotiate a deal with the DA)
• If a deal is not reached it then goes to a trial readiness conference
• Then it goes to jury trial (and that means goes to selection, etc. but not necessarily a jury) but at any time they can have another settlement conference
• The DA's office will most likely always want to cut a deal with you prior to going to court, that's just the way it works.+[/list]
HomeinTrinity writes: November 18, 2011 6:27 a.m.
charly3947:
First of all, Catholicism is Jesus based. We use his teachings in our Mass. We worship him as our savior. Your research (if you really did it) is incorrect. We do not worship Mary. We venerate her for her williness to be the flesh mother of our Lord Jesus Christ. We love her as one would their own mother. And just as one keeps pictures, or art work, or physical likeness of someone deeply loved and looks at them with fondness; so too do we with Mary. Our pictures of our loved ones are used by us as a reminder of our beloved and how much we love them. So too, are the pictures and statues of Mary used in the same way. Just as many houses have pictures of the people who are important to them, out of love for them. You do not consider looking at those pictures, talking to those picture with love in your heart as whorshiping them. We use pictures and statues of Mary as a way of connecting with her in our hearts. They are ways of focusing on our love for her. Just as one looks at "mom's" picture with love.
There is a difference between love and worship.
There are evil people in all walks of life in every church and organization. We are given free will by our Father God to choose the good path or the bad. Some people choose evil. It is not the church making that choice.
[/list][/size]The meaning of venerate needs to be traced back to its original meaning in order to get a full understanding of it.
Origin:
1615–25; < Latin vener?tus, past participle of vener?r? to solicit the goodwill of (a god), worship, revere, verbal derivative of vener-, stem of venus, presumably in its original sense "desire"; see Venus)
Also, Catholicism is NOT based on Jesus. IF it were, then there would be no need for a man that is hold in higher esteem than the BIBLE! If Catholicism was truly "Jesus Based", then why would the Catholic Church limit the Holy Bible to only the Latin Vulgate? Because they did not want The common people to have the same knowledge. Only the "Church" wanted to be able to read it. Only the bishops, cardinals, and the pope knew Latin. This way, they could "translate" God's word as they see fit.
Two reasons out of many that show Catholicism is not based on the Teachings of Christ. If you would like, I could show you why the pope is a walking hypocrite :-) [/list]
sadnews writes: November 18, 2011 8:43 a.m.
Family and friends did suspect she was pregnant, I would know.
raydan4208 writes: November 19, 2011 8:01 a.m.
IDKMuch00:
I'm not sure if you're a current employee who is too afraid to mention it, but I don't believe you have it all right. I worked for JYA for a time during Jessica's employ. I will say, my impression is quite different from your own. People disagree, that's a given. However, I do think that JYA has more of a role to play than you indicate. The goal of the company, while good, creates some serious misapplication. I posted it before and I will post it again. Given the mistake Jessica made (pre-marital sex), while not condoned by JYA policy, she was fully aware of the severe consequences. I personally know of a number of people who have suffered ridiculous consequences from JYA admin, for far less. Given that Jessica's boyfriend as well as her own life was completely wrapped-up in the school; it's a daunting task to face given her mistake. I'm not justifying in any way. The clearly dysfunctional thought process she went through to come-up with what the media says she did it insane (if true). My point is, JYA does have a role to play and at the very least, they should seriously consider how they treat their employees. No, this isn't some personal vendetta . My employment, while unpleasant given their structure, was terminated amenably.
[/list][/size]I am not a Staff and never have been...I graduated the Program as a Student of 2 1/2 Years in 2008 at 17 Years Old;Jessica was a staff at this time. I will say this;I have no idea what goes on behind closed doors w/ the Staff...thats a FACT. They dont discuss anything that they discuss w/ us unless completely necessary...which you should know since you say you were a Staff...in which case I'm sure we may have known one another. Opinions are what they are...and they are not valid at all...I guess voicing them is getting all of completely no where. I see what you're saying in the aspect of JYA playing a role in the choice Jessica made b/c Staff were to remain celibate as the Teachings of God do say this is how it should be...do I agree with their consequences for such matters....absolutely not...anyone should be able to do what they want when they want and it remain their business and completely private...firing anyone for this reason isn't right b/c it's considered passing judgement which God also says isn't right...so this can go many ways. Thank you for bring that point up...that does make a lot of sense. I guess being her friend I feel the natural need to defend...but I just want everyone to know that in this posting and the previous LONG one that was broken down... I am not trying to defend what she did...she deserves CAPITAL punishment for this horrible action.[/list]
raydan4208 writes: November 19, 2011 8:07 a.m.
Cynicalone:
Raydan- decaf. Satan isnt usually up before 9am to defend himself or his followers. Spare us the drrrraaaamaaaaa..its over.
[/list][/size]Not sure what you're trying to imply with this comment. I was up so early b/c I work Graveyard Shifts...10 PM-6 AM 5 Nights a week...therefore...on my days off I am still up from 5 PM-5 AM :):) I can't possibly "cause drama" unless someone allows me to. I was simply placing my input as all of you did previous to my comments coming from someone who went to that exact Program she attended and Staffed as well as someone who knew her personally!! Satan has nothing to do with my post...Satan has everything to do with Jessicas actions. I understand that it's over...but if it were really over in your eyes you wouldn't have commented back stating "its over"...so don't insult me please. I dont DEFEND Jessica...I simply try to remember her as the person I once knew...and if that helps me sleep at night...thats my business;who is anyone to judge me for that. She was wrong to do what she did...CAPITAL PUNISHMENT IS WHAT SHE DESERVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/list]
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Phil Ludwig, Julian Youth Academy's director, gives some revealing perspective in the below article:
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Julian leader backs school; recent death of infant has drawn criticism (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/19/julian-leader-backs-school/)
By Alayna Shulman
Posted November 19, 2011 at 9:46 p.m.
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Phil Ludwig
The leader of a Christian boarding school for troubled teens that has generated controversy after a staff member's mummified infant daughter was found hidden in a utility closet at its Whitmore campus said criticism that has risen since the death is unwarranted.
Staff member and former student Jessica Nicole Bradford, 23, was arrested Nov. 7. Sheriff's deputies said she admitted starving her 4-day-old daughter to death in September and keeping the child's body hidden in her room on the Julian Youth Academy campus for more than a month.
Bradford declined an interview request from the Record Searchlight. She has pleaded not guilty to murder and remains in the Shasta County Jail, with bail set at $1 million.
Phil Ludwig, the school's director, said that incident doesn't reflect on the academy, and the vast majority of former students say they had a good experience there.
"All clients of any business are not always going to be ecstatic about the service they got," he said. "If they're saying that we're abusing these kids, why are they waiting until this tragedy? Why are they focusing on themselves?"
But a former student at another Julian campus said she is certain the baby's death occurred at least partly because of the strict conditioning that goes on at the schools.
"They have such a lifestyle up there of hiding things and hiding people's issues and hiding this and that, that now look what's happened," said Dionne Lake, 26, of Huntington Beach. "She said to police she killed her baby, hid her baby after she killed it, and it's because she didn't want it to affect her lifestyle."
The school
Despite criticism from former students like Lake, Ludwig said the academy for troubled teens runs a "relationship-based" program that most students and parents praise.
"All we're trying to do is provide an inexpensive way to help keep their child safe and get an education," Ludwig said of the school, where tuition runs around $3,000 a month, but can be as low as $500 monthly with a need-based scholarship. "We love kids, and that's why we do this."
Ludwig, a former San Diego police officer, described the school's religious affiliation as "mainstream" Christian.
"Even our Christian doctrine is, we don't force it on anyone," he said. "We're really mainstream, normal Christian people."
Ludwig said claims that students are force-fed or have to do manual labor are untrue. Those accusations have sprouted up on Internet websites in the wake of the Bradford story.
"We do not use food as discipline, ... we do not use corporal punishment," he said. "We never use human rights as discipline."
Instead, students are disciplined based on "positivity," Ludwig said, like writing down resolutions to their misbehavior, such as "I will show more respect to authority."
But Lake, who said she attended the school's now-defunct Julian campus in Southern California until 2001, said she still feels traumatized by her year and a half there, and it was more psychologically stressful than anything.
"If you say anything while you're there negative about the program, then you're punished; if you say anything negative about your feelings, you're punished," she said. "It's like a cult, that's actually the only way I can describe it. You step out of the car, you're automatically greeted by someone who has you go in a bathroom with them and remove your clothes. It's like a cavity search. It's traumatic."
Lake said there was a "no-talk" policy sometimes in which students aren't allowed to speak to one another or staff.
Ludwig said the school does have a policy that requires students write down their questions or comments at times if they're not crucial.
"It teaches a child that you can't demand attention just because you are ready to complain," he said. "We're teaching them there's a time and place based on severity and importance. If you're sitting there working, it's annoying ... it's all about, 'Well, you've got to listen to me right now.' We're trying to teach them mutual respect."
But if there's a threatening situation, students can always vocally address staff members, he said.
Ludwig said the school is currently accredited through one agency whose name he couldn't immediately recall, and it's going through the process of accreditation with the Western Association of Schools and Colleges. Alice Hauser, an administrative assistant with the Western Association of Schools and Colleges' Northern California office, said accreditation with her organization is the most credible.
"We're the ones that work hand in hand with the department of education for California," she said. "There's a lot of other accrediting agencies that don't mean anything ... as far as we see, they're not affiliated with anybody that we recognize."
The staff
Some staff members at the academy, like Bradford, are former students. Ludwig said he wasn't sure how many of the Whitmore campus's roughly 30 staff members are former students, and he wouldn't comment on what kind of position Bradford held.
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Jessica Bradford
But to him, the fact that a student would want to stay on as a staff member shows the success of the program, Ludwig said.
"They come back with the attitude of wanting to help because they got help," he said. "To me, I think that's kind of an encouragement."
Lake said she thinks staff members are frequently hired because they've already gone through the program and are easy to control — and that's "a major red flag."
"It's almost like an insurance policy," she said. "They bend to his will, and they haven't been arguing about it. I think it's absolutely dangerous."
Bradford entered the academy at 17 and was hired upon graduating, according to the Shasta County Sheriff's Office. Lake said she thinks former students might also be hired after graduation because they'll work for less money than older employees would.
An ad posting on christianjobs.com lists a "house parent" position at the Whitmore campus as paying $9.25 an hour. The posting doesn't list any specific job requirements, though the ad does say applicants must consent to a background check.
"We ask that our staff be spiritually mature with great communication skills and be especially willing and able to listen. Staff need to have a heart for this kind of ministry. We want them to provide the love and support the students need while maintaining the discipline and accountability required," the ad reads.
Ludwig said his average staff member is 28 years old, and some have master's degrees of education or counseling. All have to go through a background check with the state justice department, he said.
But some things, like Jessica Bradford's situation, just can't be anticipated, he said.
"Who's going to predict that? This girl kept this so secretive her mother and her boyfriend didn't even know," he said. "It's not going to catch everything."
There isn't a requirement for employees to undergo any kind of psychological evaluation, he said.
Still, Ludwig, who lives in Orange County, said he has "complete confidence" that staff members run things soundly in his absence. He said he visits the campus for a training program for seven to 10 days a month.
"We are doing it right, and I'm confident in that based on our history and our background," he said.
The secrecy
Websites affiliated with the school, including teenrescue.com, its parent organization founded by Ludwig, haven't been running since Bradford's arrest. Links say "Down for maintenance" or "Not found."
The school's Facebook and Myspace pages are blank or private. One Facebook page for the group offers the school's Wikipedia profile as its only public information.
Other websites with information on the school refer questions to a 1-800 number in Chino, where Teen Rescue is rooted.
The school, which has been in Shasta County for around three years, isn't listed on Google Maps or in the phone book. It's tucked away in the foothills of Whitmore, some 50 miles from downtown Redding.
Ludwig said the secrecy surrounding the school is an effort to protect students from the situations that got them there in the first place.
The teens, who already have gone through troubled pasts, have had to deal with even more strife since Bradford's arrest, he said. They've been visited by a counselor to cope with the "awful, horrendous tragedy."
He said the focus should be on supporting them, and it doesn't make sense that people wouldn't have spoken out about alleged abuse at the school before now if it really happened.
"I can't get my head around how it's shifted from this tragedy to making themselves the victim," he said. "To crucify us in the press, to me, tells us the validity of the stories."
But Lake said she knows other people who had traumatic experiences at Julian, and they're afraid of the consequences of complaining.
"We get conditioned, like we can't say anything because ... we just want to graduate and be done with it. It's not necessarily textbook abusive, (but) I think it's still dangerous ..." she said. "I always get dismissed as a troublesome, disgruntled student. I'm not a disgruntled student, I'm a woman who has looked back at an issue that happened in her childhood and has spoken out about it."
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Lillybee writes: November 19, 2011 11:06 p.m.
Thank you for this story. It didn't answer my questions but at least it was a start.
mrphixit2 writes: November 20, 2011 1:05 a.m.
The whole Jessica Bradford story is so very sad. I don’t think any school or organization, public or private, should be blamed for someone getting pregnant, not telling her mother or boyfriend and then starving the baby. She had nine months to contact Planned Parenthood but chose not to. Bradford admitted making trips to town after the baby was born, where she could have dropped the baby off almost anywhere with no questions asked. No one ever needed to know.
The choices Bradford made were unfortunate and tragic for her, the baby, her parents and everyone around or close to her.
Now Ms. Lake who admittedly attended a different campus eight or more years ago as a ‘troubled teen’ and has obviously never been to this campus, pops up. Ms. Lake who “always gets dismissed as a troublesome, disgruntled student” could have gotten the publicity and attention she seeks now, by contacting Gloria Allred eight years ago. Or if she really had those “traumatic experiences” in her childhood at the campus in Southern CA, why didn’t she simply go to CPS (Child Protective Services) or the Police when she escaped upon graduation? Sounds a lot like revenge towards her parents who sacrificed to send her to the school in an attempt to get her the help she needed.
dmcgaughey writes: November 20, 2011 3:28 a.m.
JUST TRIED TO PUT MY SON IN YOUR SCHOOL.. YOU WANTED TO CHARGE ME 38,000 FOR ONE YEAR. 3,000. A MONTH.. NOT ONCE DID YOU EVER OFFER A 500.00 A MONTH FEE.. I CAME THERE IN NEED OF HELP AND YOU CLEALY DO NOT ACCOMIDATE LOW INCOME/DIABLED PARENT/ON SOCIAL SECURITY.. YOU GOT TO BE RICHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TO GET HELP..
OnetoWatch writes: November 20, 2011 3:58 a.m.
[The program] teaches a child that you can't demand attention just because you are ready to complain" but he wonders why none of these children contact CPS??? This program is scaring them into silence! He sees no relation to why his own employee/former student hides her pregnancy and then hides her dead baby inside a utility closets and the way he describes what the program teaches?? I wonder if Jessica Bradford would have been dismissed as easily as it seems he is dismissing the complaints of his own "students." I know for a fact that there have been allegations of abuse made by the girls in this school. I have heard story after story of girls who go to Phil Ludwig and the staff at this place and tell them of issues of abuse. The only reason these things aren't being reported to CPS is because Phil himself is dropping the ball and not reporting them!
I think he is missing the point also on why there is a need to give his staff psychological evaluations. Yeah, you can't screen for someone turning into a monster, but maybe if he had the proper staff screened in the first place when Jessica was an actual student at the school, she could have gotten the help she obviously needed by a staff member who actually had more qualifications then just being a 'Christian with a loving heart.' You know who else claimed to be a Christian? Jeffrey Dahmer. So would that make him qualifed in Phil's eyes?[/list]
ReddingCritic writes: November 20, 2011 5:55 a.m.
"Ludwig said the school is currently accredited through one agency whose name he couldn't immediately recall..."
Obviously accreditation is not central to Ludwig's concerns. Had he taken accreditation seriously, two important things would be quite different than they are:
1. Staff would have been screened carefully, so that Bradford would not have been hired, and
2. Staff that discovered the dead baby on a Friday would not have waited until Sunday to call the authorities.
Finally, the R/S is following up on important issues in this tragedy. One of many remaining questions is whether or not charges are to be brought against the mandated child abuse reporters on staff who did not report finding a dead baby "immediately" as required by law.
baampilotcars writes: November 20, 2011 6:28 a.m.
My problem is that they have conditioned her into away of thinking that resulted in the starving to death of a new born baby. There is no way anyone can convince me that the school is not reponsible.
OnetoWatch writes: November 20, 2011 6:41 a.m.
Many of these former students, myself included, have brought up issues of abuse to Phil Ludwig, and HE is the one who is dropping the ball in reporting them to the proper authorities. For someone who throws around his background as a former police officer, it sure does seem like he doesn't know the law that requires school officials to report child abuse. Also this place is not even really a school! How come he says in some places that Julian Youth Academy is a school, but then in other places he says it is a Behavior Modification program? Which one is it? Lets get to the bottom of what this place really is! What kinds of "troubled teens" does he accept, and who does he have taking care of them? He said on his website (before it got shut down for maintenance) that this was a theraputic program, so where are the therapists?
FivePlusOne writes: November 20, 2011 6:53 a.m.
mrphixit2:
The whole Jessica Bradford story is so very sad. I don't think any school or organization, public or private, should be blamed for someone getting pregnant, not telling her mother or boyfriend and then starving the baby. She had nine months to contact Planned Parenthood but chose not to. Bradford admitted making trips to town after the baby was born, where she could have dropped the baby off almost anywhere with no questions asked. No one ever needed to know.
The choices Bradford made were unfortunate and tragic for her, the baby, her parents and everyone around or close to her.
Now Ms. Lake who admittedly attended a different campus eight or more years ago as a 'troubled teen' and has obviously never been to this campus, pops up. Ms. Lake who "always gets dismissed as a troublesome, disgruntled student" could have gotten the publicity and attention she seeks now, by contacting Gloria Allred eight years ago. Or if she really had those "traumatic experiences" in her childhood at the campus in Southern CA, why didn't she simply go to CPS (Child Protective Services) or the Police when she escaped upon graduation? Sounds a lot like revenge towards her parents who sacrificed to send her to the school in an attempt to get her the help she needed.
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dacndoc writes: November 20, 2011 7 a.m.
Who's funding this school? Private or gov't? I bet I can guess!!!!!!!!!
arose10 writes: November 20, 2011 7:14 a.m.
Ms. Lake and many other students have told their story, not only to the CEO of this program asking him questions, but also to officers of the law and news reporters. No one was interested in listening , until this horrific tragedy. It is sad that this tragedy is the only thing that has opened the ears to the public. If you look at old stories posted about Julian Youth Academy, you will see proof that these students have been reaching out.
kishkan writes: November 20, 2011 7:14 a.m.
dacndoc:
Who's funding this school? Private or gov't? I bet I can guess!!!!!!!!!
[/list][/size]Anyone can guess. Only you can't read an article which states how it's paid for.[/list]
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BkPkers2 writes: November 20, 2011 8:07 a.m.
dacndoc:
Who's funding this school? Private or gov't? I bet I can guess!!!!!!!!!
[/list][/size]The article clearly states that tuition is $3000 per month - and that's a tidy sum X all the kids they have there. . .nice annual income for this school.
With that sort of tuition, one can only presume these are children from well to do families - out of sight and out of mind! Just how many people can afford $36K/year for educating their "troubled" kids.
Wonder just how many "students" have gone through this school in Whitmore and how many through the other "campuses" in the State - and does this school pay taxes or are they under some "exempt" status because they claim a pseudo-religious affiliation.
I really find it difficult to believe that as the school's "Director", Mr. Ludwig cannot remember what agency has "accredited" this facility - based on the comment from the WASC spokesperson, it appears they have no accreditation at all - but, hey "they love kids" and that's why they charge $3,000 per month. Wonder why the southern California campus is now defunct.[/list]
AShulman (staff) writes: November 20, 2011 8:20 a.m.
BkPkers2:
The article clearly states that tuition is $3000 per month - and that's a tidy sum X all the kids they have there. . .nice annual income for this school.
With that sort of tuition, one can only presume these are children from well to do families - out of sight and out of mind! Just how many people can afford $36K/year for educating their "troubled" kids.
Wonder just how many "students" have gone through this school in Whitmore and how many through the other "campuses" in the State - and does this school pay taxes or are they under some "exempt" status because they claim a pseudo-religious affiliation.
I really find it difficult to believe that as the school's "Director", Mr. Ludwig cannot remember what agency has "accredited" this facility - based on the comment from the WASC spokesperson, it appears they have no accreditation at all - but, hey "they love kids" and that's why they charge $3,000 per month. Wonder why the southern California campus is now defunct.
[/list][/size]BkPkers2,
The Southern California campus burned to the ground in 2003, so they relocated to Whitmore. Sorry for the confusion.
- Alayna Shulman[/list]
DarkElla30 writes: November 20, 2011 8:21 a.m.
The woman who killed her child never mentioned that the school made her do it, or that she did it because of the school, or that she was in any way unhappy at the school. I understood from her statements that she didn't want her lifestyle to change, meaning: she'd be sent away from the program if she had a child, or that her BF wouldn't like her child, or something like that. The school can't he held responsible for the warped choice a mentally ill person made.
If this other student -not even from the same school- was ordered by a court to serve time or go to a reform school, then of *course* she doesn't have anything good to say about the program. Yes, they will search you upon entrance. Yes, there are structure and rules. Troubled kids only get out of these programs what they put into them.
Everyone wants someone to blame for this hideous situation, and I think it's ok to say, "Sadly, some troubled kid behaved in a troubled way." She will have her lifestyle altered now by jailtime, or by being moved into some tougher facility where she can't run off to have sex, that's all.
New_Voice writes: November 20, 2011 8:48 a.m.
think this school should def. be investigated. I don't believe they are responsible for this horrific event but how could something like this go unnoticed. A 9month pregnancy, the birth of an infant, 4 days of it crying from not being fed, and then its body being hidden inside a dormitory for a month. REALLY, nobody noticed anything??? As a school for troubled youth, I would think they would be held to a higher standard, with more involvement then regular schools. As for the accusations of mistreatment from previous students, I believe they are probably true. If something like this can happen with a staff member and go completely unnoticed, I cant imagine the kind of things that happens to the children/students behind closed doors, especially when they've been labeled "TROUBLED YOUTH" with a history of lying. MAKES ME SICK!!!!!!!!!!!
randy writes: November 20, 2011 8:51 a.m.
"The tree shall be known by it's fruit"?
localborne writes: November 20, 2011 8:59 a.m.
"Sadly, some troubled kid behaved in a troubled way."
She was 22 when she got pregnant, not a kid at all. I think this kind of reasoning/attitude is what got this woman in the situation to begin with.
Unsaid is that they most likely "teach" abstinence and drill the pro-Life message.
Well, that did not work.
JYASurvivor writes: November 20, 2011 9:22 a.m.
I am one of the former students of JYA. The first place of residence was in julian,ca. The lease was up so we all the students boys and girls had to pack everything up and move to another location about 3 mile down the hill top and road. That location was still in Julian, ca. That location was burnt down in the san diego fires. look it up! I was a student from '93 to '96. I am now a mother, wife, survivor, and grown woman. My time at jya was not pleasant to say the least. I had to dig holes 4 feet wide and 6 feet in length when I did or said something wrong. I also had to run up and down a set of stairs to the point where i could hardly breath for hours with no water nor a break, i had to write thousands of sentences, when i try to run away to get help i was caught and then had to wear a bath robe and slippers in the snow for 3 weeks with no shower at all. plus 5000 sentences each 500 had to be a bible verse no less then 13 words, and every 500 had to be a diferent verse. the staff would randomly come in our rooms and flip it upside down and do room searches for hidden food or drinks ( non alcoholic ) water or juices. there were voice monitors in every room to listen to our every move or sound we made. there was an up and down buddy system. the up buddies were in charge to watch over and hold accountable the down buddies and if the down buddies did anything wrong even speaking when not aloud to the up buddy would be held responsible. I could go on. There are many of us out here that have spoken about our time there and it has been tossed under the rug multiple times. Phil Ludwig was barely around. maybe once every couple of months he would come down to SD for a meeting or when there was new staff. But other than that Phil did not care nor show any kindness towards us teenagers. As a matter of fact he personally threatened to send me to the Dominic Republic after I had attempted to run away until I was 18. On another note. My mother was a single mother of two teenage girls, my father had just died in '92 and she was trying her hardest to raise us alone. I have no ill feelings toward my mom for doing what she thought was right at the time. I hold solely JYA responsible for tearing us down punishing us making us feel like dog poop and never knowing how to build us back up properly. Phil talked about an aftercare program and home, but of course that never happened. Phil is a good talker! If your gonna talk the talk then be prepared to walk the walk. And you wonder why all the sites are down for JYA? Because Phil is trying his best to not have to deal with the reality at hand and all the years of breaking down these innocent souls that took a wrong turn in life.
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scobechay writes: November 20, 2011 9:34 a.m.
Why was Ms. Lake put in a "troubled teens" school in the first place. Obviously, she had some problems to work on??????
Jabberwocky writes: November 20, 2011 9:43 a.m.
Here we go again!!! Blaming someone or something else for the actions of another, thus perpetuating the "I take no personal responsibility for my actions" mantra. People!! This WOMAN chose to get pregnant - yes chose. In this day a and age there are just too many ways to avoid pregnancy if you so choose. Then she chose to go forward with the pregnancy. Again, in this day and age, that too can be addressed. Then she CHOSE to hide her pregnancy from everyone. Then she CHOSE to deliver her child without seeking help. Then she CHOSE to hide and starve her child to death when there were so many other alternatives.
This woman is not troubled - she is EVIL! She methodically and deliberately chose every step along this journey. Now, she AND SHE ALONE must pay for her actions! The schools is not to blame, her parents and friends are not to blame and for God's sake - society is not to blame!
Let the judicial chips fall where they may for this scum. I hope they lock her up and throw away the key. Let's see if that changes her life style!!!!
galex66 writes: November 20, 2011 10:01 a.m.
mrphixit2:
The whole Jessica Bradford story is so very sad. I don't think any school or organization, public or private, should be blamed for someone getting pregnant, not telling her mother or boyfriend and then starving the baby. She had nine months to contact Planned Parenthood but chose not to. Bradford admitted making trips to town after the baby was born, where she could have dropped the baby off almost anywhere with no questions asked. No one ever needed to know.
The choices Bradford made were unfortunate and tragic for her, the baby, her parents and everyone around or close to her.
Now Ms. Lake who admittedly attended a different campus eight or more years ago as a 'troubled teen' and has obviously never been to this campus, pops up. Ms. Lake who "always gets dismissed as a troublesome, disgruntled student" could have gotten the publicity and attention she seeks now, by contacting Gloria Allred eight years ago. Or if she really had those "traumatic experiences" in her childhood at the campus in Southern CA, why didn't she simply go to CPS (Child Protective Services) or the Police when she escaped upon graduation? Sounds a lot like revenge towards her parents who sacrificed to send her to the school in an attempt to get her the help she needed.
[/list][/size]There are a lot of people who went to that school, who have tried to get the story behind this school out there, for years! We have reached out to numerous news outlets, lawyers, CPS etc. As far as the local police, they know about the school and are told we are liars and if a child is caught running to immediately bring them back and don't listen to a word we say. For parents it is hard to accept the stories the kids tell them, when they finally get out, because all communication during your stay is monitored. Phil also warns parents that we will try to manipulate them by telling lies about the school. So even talking to your parents about the issues at the school can be very hard, until enough time has passed that they can accept that Phil is not the man he claims to be nor runs the program he claims to run.[/list]
galex66 writes: November 20, 2011 10:19 a.m.
As another former member of this school, I definitely feel this school should be looked into. There are many students who have stories to tell of things that happened to them while they were there. It is not that we are disgruntled we just want future parents of students to know what they are REALLY getting into. As far as a "relationship-based program" what program is he talking about? You are not allowed to have relationships with other students, if they see you are building too close of a friendship, they mark no-talk on your tag and the people's names you are not allowed to talk to. Good staff, were hard to find but even a relationship with them could be seen critically and they would back away. Relationships with family are destroyed during your time there, you aren't allowed to write anyone but your parents, so good bye sisters, brothers, grandma, grandpa, see you when I get out, hopefully. Phil's answers to questions are allusive at best. He answers the question with as little information as possible. I like how he said he spends 7-10 ten days there a month, the whole time I was there I saw him on campus three times and off campus for all the off campus trips so he could give the impression he had done something nice for us. So much more stuff I could write a book. Doesn't anyone else think its interesting he took down all the websites about the school and is working on changing the name of it? What does he have to hide that he doesn't want us to see?
alishiamarie writes: November 20, 2011 10:42 a.m.
All I have to say is that I grew up in Whitmore. I had friends that went to that school like almost 20 years ago. I can CLEARLY recal hearing the same stories that this former student is coming forward with! I absolutly feel its valid. I think ANYTIME there is a question of child abuse of ANYKIND it should be looked at and investigated. If this school has nothing to hide then they will surely welcome a closer look inside its curriculum and how its run. I was abused as a child and I know first hand the control an adult can have and how this can affect your thoughts and decisions. This is a very serious situation and its REAL people! Stop looking the other way. Investigate child abuse if we don't who will? People get away with it everyday and children are made to keep quiet about it not just out of fear but out of embarrasment. I hope this doesn't just get swept under the table because the effects of child abuse have a dominoe effect on the whole community. It doesn't end with the abuser and the abused obviously now we have a dead infant. Wake up people!
Lynordess writes: November 20, 2011 10:49 a.m.
would LOVE to hear from other "students" of this place. Thank you galex66 for sharing your story.
kitkaboodle26#212514 writes: November 20, 2011 11:04 a.m.
While reading this horrific story and learning that it happened at a Christian based school, it made me reflect on my ex sister in law's stay in a Christian based Rehab in Southern CA. She had just recovered from a mastectomy and her parents "believed" she had an addiction to pain medication so they "suggested" she go there. The rules were no communication witht he opposite sex while attending church services, that means NO LOOKING at them either. Males on one side, females on the other. The staff read your incoming mail and your outgoing mail. She was told that she could no longer write or recieve mail from my brother; no not the ex husband brother, another sibling because he was a non related male. Anytime she had a phone conversation, yes even when I called, she was very selective about what she could say, as her conversations as well as her physical self was being monitored. Yes, there was punishments for violations of the rules. One in particular that I found rather disturbing as well as the rest of the family ( on my side) is at night, you are taken from your room and you have to dig a hole at least 6 feet deep. They made her do it..still recovering from a mastectomy 4 months before that. I asked her "WHY"? Her explaination was short and brief.."It comes from scriptures". I was shocked to say the least as well as angry. Is this the equal to "stoning"?
I beleive there is credibility to Ms. lake's story. I think these facilities are ran on border line zealousy. Church is separate of the state so they can get by with things.
I also find it very disturbing that Mr. Ludwig doesn't know who the other accreditors are.
The conditioning is right in front of our eyes, "Hide Hide Hide." That is probably why they waited to report it to law enforcement..had to make sure it was okay with the management and how they can best figure out how to exonerate the school. I think this place needs to be shut down. As for the mother, I think she is mentally ill, but no insanity plea. She knew exactly what she was doing and the why. I find the school indirectly responsible for the doctrine they teach..HIDE HIDE HIDE. her and her boyfriend were probably not supposed to be boyfriend and girlfriend...one of the big NO NO'S. I am not justifying anything that girl did because there is no justification.. just trying to understand how a place like that school can manipulate people this far..and look at the tragedy that has taken place because of their freaked up rules. But she alone is responsible for this ugly act.
alishiamarie writes: November 20, 2011 11:18 a.m.
Go on google maps and pull this place up. Its on Tamarac road. When was the last time you have even seen a prison that was this secluded? No joke people. Tamarac is an old logging road!
Lillybee writes: November 20, 2011 11:52 a.m.
don't understand why almost all information about this school seems to have been scrubbed from the net.
mrphixit2 writes: November 20, 2011 12:16 p.m.
kitkaboodle26#212514:
While reading this horrific story and learning that it happened at a Christian based school, it made me reflect on my ex sister in law's stay in a Christian based Rehab in Southern CA. She had just recovered from a mastectomy and her parents "believed" she had an addiction to pain medication so they "suggested" she go there. The rules were no communication witht he opposite sex while attending church services, that means NO LOOKING at them either. Males on one side, females on the other. The staff read your incoming mail and your outgoing mail. She was told that she could no longer write or recieve mail from my brother; no not the ex husband brother, another sibling because he was a non related male. Anytime she had a phone conversation, yes even when I called, she was very selective about what she could say, as her conversations as well as her physical self was being monitored. Yes, there was punishments for violations of the rules. One in particular that I found rather disturbing as well as the rest of the family ( on my side) is at night, you are taken from your room and you have to dig a hole at least 6 feet deep. They made her do it..still recovering from a mastectomy 4 months before that. I asked her "WHY"? Her explaination was short and brief.."It comes from scriptures". I was shocked to say the least as well as angry. Is this the equal to "stoning"?
I beleive there is credibility to Ms. lake's story. I think these facilities are ran on border line zealousy. Church is separate of the state so they can get by with things.
I also find it very disturbing that Mr. Ludwig doesn't know who the other accreditors are.
The conditioning is right in front of our eyes, "Hide Hide Hide." That is probably why they waited to report it to law enforcement..had to make sure it was okay with the management and how they can best figure out how to exonerate the school. I think this place needs to be shut down. As for the mother, I think she is mentally ill, but no insanity plea. She knew exactly what she was doing and the why. I find the school indirectly responsible for the doctrine they teach..HIDE HIDE HIDE. her and her boyfriend were probably not supposed to be boyfriend and girlfriend...one of the big NO NO'S. I am not justifying anything that girl did because there is no justification.. just trying to understand how a place like that school can manipulate people this far..and look at the tragedy that has taken place because of their freaked up rules. But she alone is responsible for this ugly act.
[/list][/size]Thank you for reflecting on your ex sister in law's stay in a Christian based Rehab in Southern CA.
Nothing like throwing in a 3rd party rumor unrelated to this story, this school or anyone there now or in the past. Adding that "at night, you are taken from your room and you have to dig a hole at least 6 feet deep." doesn't pass the smell test.
With no factual or first hand knowledge you say 'I think this place needs to be shut down.' I hope you never get called for Jury Duty.[/list]
Universal writes: November 20, 2011 12:21 p.m.
Julian does sound like another christian based cult that is common in CA. The brain washing and secrecy is the common thread. Not too unlike that which goes on with Scientology, which by the way, is a cult of the highest order, minus the faith component.
javajink writes: November 20, 2011 12:44 p.m.
As another past student (survivor) of Julian Youth Academy, I want it to be cleared up that Phil Ludwig stated some things in his comments that are COMPLETELY false...
1. "Even our Christian doctrine is, we don't force it on anyone," he said. "We're really mainstream, normal Christian people."
I personally want this to be addressed. Attending this "program" is a very long process that usually last 15 months to 2 yrs. From day 1, you are required to attend bible studies, church gatherings and any other christian functions they choose for you. You have to conform to their beliefs. If you ask to be removed from these practices due to your own personal beliefs or opinions, you are automatically labeled as rebelling or straying away from the program and will be punished and disciplined accordingly. Discipline meaning, writing biblical lines chosen by staff members sometimes up to 1500 times, running lines (set up by staff), running stairs, NO-TALK (no speaking, no gestures, no smiling, no questions)sometimes this can last over a month... If you do not accept their beliefs and religion you will be stuck until you do.
javajink writes: November 20, 2011 12:45 p.m.
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2. "Ludwig said claims that students are force-fed or have to do manual labor are untrue. Those accusations have sprouted up on Internet websites in the wake of the Bradford story."
"We do not use food as discipline, ... we do not use corporal punishment," he said. "We never use human rights as discipline."
This is complete falsity. It scares me that he either believes people will not speak out or he really has NO idea what is really going on at his institution.
Force-feeding: This is a daily routine on campus. Starting from your first meal when you arrive, you are served a full plate and are REQUIRED to eat the portions in its entirety (even if it is something you are not used to eating. Example: Vegetarians having to eat meat, Vegan's having to eat dairy and meat)even if your body does not respond well. You are not allowed to get up from the table until you have eaten your full plate. This is strictly monitored.
3."All clients of any business are not always going to be ecstatic about the service they got," he said. "If they're saying that we're abusing these kids, why are they waiting until this tragedy? Why are they focusing on themselves?"
I just want to state this for the record that past students that have issues with things that happened to them in Julian Youth Academy's care HAVE been trying to speak out for years! Unfortunately, it has taken a great tragedy like this, for people to open their ears and eyes and look deeper into the harsh, irresponsible environment that JYA provides.
2. cont. "We never use human rights as discipline."
Must I bring up the "NO-TALK" issue and go over the ammendments from the Constitution of the United States. Not to mention the physical labor that is required on a daily basis including cleaning, digging, shoveling, raking, stump removal and other "chores" required.
I personally know for a fact that Phil Ludwig may be the CEO and have all kinds of pleasant words to speak about "his" JULIAN YOUTH ACADEMY, but the fact of the matter is that in the 2 years that I attended, I saw him a total 5 times in those 2 years, and NEVER once did I speak to him on a personal level. I believe that these "troubled teens" are a paycheck to him. That is all. This is his lively hood.
mrphixit2 writes: November 20, 2011 1:31 p.m.
This horrific story and the 'blame someone else' postings sadden me. Blame the parents, Blame the public schools the failing kid attended. Blame the new school that completely separates the sexes to prevent student pregnancies. Blame the other staff members who could not see she was pregnant under bulky clothes. We know pregnancies have never gone undetected anywhere else, even with parents watching. Blame the school administrators who try to guide these problem kids away from the drugs, alcohol and prostitution trades they came from. Blame the CEO for not foreseeing that she would get pregnant and kill the baby. Blame the evil police and school staff members who search in the wilderness for hours to bring back poor kids who runaway and head into 100miles of forest populated with 'real' bears with no food and wearing a tee shirt. Blame CPS for not believing kids who were sent to these schools for destructive behavioral problems and habitual lying. Blame the Courts that gave some of them a choice of "one of these schools or jail". Military Service would be best for them but our volunteer Military would not accept most of them.
It's always someone else's fault. Surprising that no one has said it was 'Bush's fault'.
The students (and some others) need a sign on their mirrors that read, "I am my own problem and I am the only one who can fix it"
galex66 writes: November 20, 2011 2:05 p.m.
mrphixit2:
This horrific story and the 'blame someone else' postings sadden me. Blame the parents, Blame the public schools the failing kid attended. Blame the new school that completely separates the sexes to prevent student pregnancies. Blame the other staff members who could not see she was pregnant under bulky clothes. We know pregnancies have never gone undetected anywhere else, even with parents watching. Blame the school administrators who try to guide these problem kids away from the drugs, alcohol and prostitution trades they came from. Blame the CEO for not foreseeing that she would get pregnant and kill the baby. Blame the evil police and school staff members who search in the wilderness for hours to bring back poor kids who runaway and head into 100miles of forest populated with 'real' bears with no food and wearing a tee shirt. Blame CPS for not believing kids who were sent to these schools for destructive behavioral problems and habitual lying. Blame the Courts that gave some of them a choice of "one of these schools or jail". Military Service would be best for them but our volunteer Military would not accept most of them.
It's always someone else's fault. Surprising that no one has said it was 'Bush's fault'.
The students (and some others) need a sign on their mirrors that read, "I am my own problem and I am the only one who can fix it"
[/list][/size]A previous article on this site about this girl states "Bradford also told detectives she never told anyone about the baby or her pregnancy because she feared she would lose her job and her lifestyle." A innocent baby's life was lost because she was scared of the repercussions from this "Christian" boarding school. They advocate Christianity is a way of life not a religion and it means to live Christ like. Does it not show something about the schools administration and how it was ran, that she was scared of what they would do to her, even fire her. I believe in California you can not fire someone who is pregnant, that would be considered wrongful termination. So she was scared the school would slander her to the students and other staff and make her life miserable. Now, rather than dealing with that, she is facing charges of murder. How did she think she was going to hide this forever? Why did the school find the baby on a Friday but not call the cops until Sunday, were they going to cover it up? Like they do so many other things. I wasn't sent there by the courts, I was not sent there because I am a liar, I was not in danger of failing school,you assume a lot about a bunch of people you don't know and never will. When someone ran away two staff went to look for them, not a search and rescue team like you are portraying. Sexes have always been segregated at this school in all of its locations. At one point they got rid of the boys, why? Because they attacked one another, you could look up the court documents but because they are minors they aren't public record, but three guys were arrested on campus and went to jail. Many witnessed it, not just me. They told the parents the boys were "too much to handle," that was their only explanation. Why did they lie to the parents? Once again, covering their tracks? As for girls who were sent there who were already pregnant, they were told to give the baby up for adoption and told the parents to make them do it and tell the girls they would not help or support them. These girls didn't know their rights. Many of them went through this. Is that their fault? A lot of girls have babies young and they step up and grow up. They don't live off mommy and daddy, they get jobs, go to school and make a better life for their children. Did the school inform them that it was an option to do that? No, they told the kids on your eighteenth birthday you can choose to walk out of here with nothing but the clothes on your back, basically threatening to hold them there and no keeping the baby wasn't an option. If you argued with them they threatened to send you to the Dominican Republic, where you would have to pull boulders back and forth everyday, and they claimed the age of 18 was not considered an adult. Is that an act of love? Or just another scare tactic to keep the kids in check?[/list]
galex66 writes: November 20, 2011 2:06 p.m.
galex66:
A previous article on this site about this girl states "Bradford also told detectives she never told anyone about the baby or her pregnancy because she feared she would lose her job and her lifestyle." A innocent baby's life was lost because she was scared of the repercussions from this "Christian" boarding school. They advocate Christianity is a way of life not a religion and it means to live Christ like. Does it not show something about the schools administration and how it was ran, that she was scared of what they would do to her, even fire her. I believe in California you can not fire someone who is pregnant, that would be considered wrongful termination. So she was scared the school would slander her to the students and other staff and make her life miserable. Now, rather than dealing with that, she is facing charges of murder. How did she think she was going to hide this forever? Why did the school find the baby on a Friday but not call the cops until Sunday, were they going to cover it up? Like they do so many other things. I wasn't sent there by the courts, I was not sent there because I am a liar, I was not in danger of failing school,you assume a lot about a bunch of people you don't know and never will. When someone ran away two staff went to look for them, not a search and rescue team like you are portraying. Sexes have always been segregated at this school in all of its locations. At one point they got rid of the boys, why? Because they attacked one another, you could look up the court documents but because they are minors they aren't public record, but three guys were arrested on campus and went to jail. Many witnessed it, not just me. They told the parents the boys were "too much to handle," that was their only explanation. Why did they lie to the parents? Once again, covering their tracks? As for girls who were sent there who were already pregnant, they were told to give the baby up for adoption and told the parents to make them do it and tell the girls they would not help or support them. These girls didn't know their rights. Many of them went through this. Is that their fault? A lot of girls have babies young and they step up and grow up. They don't live off mommy and daddy, they get jobs, go to school and make a better life for their children. Did the school inform them that it was an option to do that? No, they told the kids on your eighteenth birthday you can choose to walk out of here with nothing but the clothes on your back, basically threatening to hold them there and no keeping the baby wasn't an option. If you argued with them they threatened to send you to the Dominican Republic, where you would have to pull boulders back and forth everyday, and they claimed the age of 18 was not considered an adult. Is that an act of love? Or just another scare tactic to keep the kids in check?
[/list][/size]It was not a school of learning and healing, it was a lock down. I do look in the mirror everyday and tell myself, look at all you have accomplished because of the strong person you are! If something is not going great I can fix it! And I do. Everything I have done in my life good or bad, is a reflection of me and my desire to improve my life.[/list]
Lillybee writes: November 20, 2011 3:19 p.m.
Thank you for sharing.
One thing I read about Julian Christian Academy is that the students were only allowed to listen to Christian radio and only allowed to watch Christian TV stations. Is this something shared by mainstream Christians? Ludwig claims that this a mainstream Christian school.
galex66 writes: November 20, 2011 5:52 p.m.
Lillybee:
Thank you for sharing.
One thing I read about Julian Christian Academy is that the students were only allowed to listen to Christian radio and only allowed to watch Christian TV stations. Is this something shared by mainstream Christians? Ludwig claims that this a mainstream Christian school.
[/list][/size]I don't think that is mainstream Christianity at all. We were only allowed to listen to Christian music. As far as TV we watched the news weekly when I was there. We also had movie nights weekly that were usually classic films. If a more recent film was shown and there was parts they didn't want us to see they fast forwarded through them. No other Christian I know does those things.[/list]
NotBornYesterday writes: November 20, 2011 6:51 p.m.
mrphixit2:
The whole Jessica Bradford story is so very sad. I don't think any school or organization, public or private, should be blamed for someone getting pregnant, not telling her mother or boyfriend and then starving the baby. She had nine months to contact Planned Parenthood but chose not to. Bradford admitted making trips to town after the baby was born, where she could have dropped the baby off almost anywhere with no questions asked. No one ever needed to know.
The choices Bradford made were unfortunate and tragic for her, the baby, her parents and everyone around or close to her.
Now Ms. Lake who admittedly attended a different campus eight or more years ago as a 'troubled teen' and has obviously never been to this campus, pops up. Ms. Lake who "always gets dismissed as a troublesome, disgruntled student" could have gotten the publicity and attention she seeks now, by contacting Gloria Allred eight years ago. Or if she really had those "traumatic experiences" in her childhood at the campus in Southern CA, why didn't she simply go to CPS (Child Protective Services) or the Police when she escaped upon graduation? Sounds a lot like revenge towards her parents who sacrificed to send her to the school in an attempt to get her the help she needed.
[/list][/size]I don't believe anyone is "blaming" the school for the actions themselves but more for emotional issues due to their seemingly cult-like practices. Ms. Bradford is and should be held accountable but looking at the bigger picture here is also necessary in addition to. Jessica will suffer the consequences of her actions and so should the school.
I am proud of Ms. Lake for standing up and speaking about her time at this school and for giving her opinion. This IS what America is all about..[/list]
mad4him writes: November 21, 2011 1:24 a.m.
I personally know all the people in this story. I know Mrs. Lake, I know Phil Ludwig, and I know Jessica Bradford. I am a former student at this program as well. I know that Ms.Lake was contacted by the reporter. She did not contact the reporter herself to talk about JYA. The reporter called her because she had found her information online at another site about JYA. She is definitely not troubled. She is actually one of my good friends and she has helped me recover from a lot of the damage I feel I recieved at this place. I don't think anyone is saying JYA is to blame for Jessica killing her baby. What Jessica did is cold blooded evil. I think the point was more about WHY is Jessica a employee trusted to take care of teens, and WHY do they all hide things up there? WHY is their website hidden? WHY doesn't Phil Ludwig report the abuses to the proper authorities when they are reported to him? I don't think anyone is making themselves out to be a victim relating to the Jessica Bradford baby killing. I think that people just wanted to know what this place was that Jessica came from and worked at. They have questions about the program/school. I don't think that the Jessica Bradford baby killing and the school are related in the sense that it is the schools fault. I think the point was more about this school/program being at fault for putting it's students at risk by hiring just about anyone. Case in point: Obviously Jessica had some troubled issues herself (whether they were mental or evil issues is irrelevant) So why was she hired to care for teens that need help with their own issues? I can say as a ex-student, the place needs to have stricter hiring requirements. To sum it up, they are not responsible or to blame for Jessica being a murderer, and that is not what Ms. Lake was saying. What they ARE resonsible for is hiring staff like this murderer. And what they ARE responisible for is the overall way of sweeping so many issues under the rug. I think us girls are speaking out about it now because parents will finally see that we've been telling the truth all along. Just because we might be sent to the place by our parents (not by a court or judge like someone here said) for having a hard time in life with issues like divorced parents or depression, doesnt mean that we are lying about the place. We finally have a chance to speak up and be believed, because now parents can look at how the staff didn't even call the police right away after the murder, and they can see that not everything is as Phil tries to make you believe.
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Comments (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/19/julian-leader-backs-school/) left for the above article, "Julian leader backs school; recent death of infant has drawn criticism (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=411813#p411813)" (by Alayna Shulman; November 19, 2011; Record Searchlight), #s 41-48:
wdtony writes: November 21, 2011 2:13 a.m.
I am convinced by reading about this program that it is definitely a CULT. I was in a teen rehabilitation cult for 2 years. It took me 19 years to face the psychological trauma I had from that place. Cult leaders always whine and play the victim when the real victims of the Cult speak out about abuses. It's the same with child molesters, rapists and criminals in positions of authority. Why did the girl kill her poor child? Probably due to the brainwashing that goes unseen in Cults. Here's my site if anyone is interested, there's legislation aimed at stopping these kinds of Cult programs:
http://www.pfctruth.com/governmentlegislation.htm (http://www.pfctruth.com/governmentlegislation.htm)[/list]
33432 writes: November 21, 2011 8:50 a.m.
Why would anybody even bother to go there if they are not accredited? Seems like a waste of time and money. So you go there, and so what, you still have to start over at some other school to get a diploma. What a joke. I hope this newspaper stays on this, as it does not appear that all is on the up and up...
Lillybee writes: November 21, 2011 10:12 a.m.
33432:
Why would anybody even bother to go there if they are not accredited? Seems like a waste of time and money. So you go there, and so what, you still have to start over at some other school to get a diploma. What a joke. I hope this newspaper stays on this, as it does not appear that all is on the up and up...
[/list][/size]I don't believe that the girls choose to go there.
They are placed there by their parents who believe that the girl needs help. The parents have been told that the girls will get a decent education.
I know that in other schools like this, all contact between girls and parents are moderated.
For example when and if they call make a phone call home a staff member sits next to them and listens in. The same thing usually goes for visits.[/list]
Good_Ol_Boy writes: November 21, 2011 11:03 a.m.
This article is nothing but smoke and mirrors...how they hell do you not notice someone getting bigger and bigger over ten months. Please!!!
This sounds more and more like another Penn State! Investigation please! Ludwig is a former cop who knows how to talk to other cops. Sounds fishy to me!
chepe writes: November 21, 2011 12:58 p.m.
The school is a complete psychological and emotional tool designed to take money from parents in relation to their troubled teens. Sometimes these places work, many times they create more problems instead.
I bet that none of these young woman at the school knew about being able to turn in their unwanted child; it woouldn't surprise me if the school purposely held back this type of information since it may be contrary to their beliefs.
Yes, another reason to keep abortion legal. Otherwise we as a society end up with to many stupid parents who can't control their kids, and over and over and over.....
Mabus2012 writes: November 21, 2011 2:47 p.m.
I agree, Keep Digging Shulman! Stay on this. Something is not right about this CEO who can't even recall who he is accredited by or how many former students he employs. Another fishy thing, did anyone catch how he said that he teaches girls to not complain all the time/make themselves as victims, but then two statements later he says that girls can come to the staff/employees there about anything? That doesnt add up. I can see the mix message that sends, and Im not a teenage girl. Something is not right about this place or this CEO. I googled Julian Youth Academy out of interest and found this:
http://projects.latimes.com/schools/sch ... h-academy/ (http://projects.latimes.com/schools/school/julian/julian-youth-academy/)
That is a link to a former student bringing these issues up to Phil Ludwig back in 2007 or 2008. There is some interesting stuff on that link. There is no way Phil Ludwig can act like he is surprised by these complaints. This isn't the first time these complaints by former students have been made. Good reporting, A. Shulman. You smell a story, and so do we! Stay on it![/list]
BeeBirdy writes: November 21, 2011 5:15 p.m.
Phil Ludwig is lying. Physical labor is a regular punishment, at least when I attended the school. Isolation was huge. The "school" has a lot of shady things going on. The girls that have been affected by the program psychologically have been voicing it for YEARS. The only reason why it is getting any attention right now is because this tragedy has stirred up strong, unresolved emotions that are hard to contain. JYA needs to be investigated thoroughly. I have experienced trauma in my life as a result of this program. I am proud of Dionne for making the comments she did, although I must point out that she did not contact this reporter, but vice versa. I think the article sounds biased towards the school, and for that I am upset. Our feelings are valid, and should be heard. I have so many emotions on the subject, from rage to deep sadness. I agree with Dionne that it is like a cult, and no one will understand unless you've been in our shoes.
efman writes: December 11, 2011 9:51 a.m.
The JYA website is active again (fyi).
http://www.teenrescue.com/faqs/ (http://www.teenrescue.com/faqs/)
I found this topic yesterday evening at OpLiberation http://paper.li/opliberation1/1319966689 (http://paper.li/opliberation1/1319966689) and see many similarities with other abuse cases in California.
Abuse rejoices in silence.
To the organized abusers involved in Julian Youth Academy and their affiliates, I see you.
To the survivors who are standing up and coming forward, I am proud of you.[/list]
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From the above comments (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=411867#p411816), emphasis added:
Mabus2012 writes: November 21, 2011 2:47 p.m.
I agree, Keep Digging Shulman! Stay on this. Something is not right about this CEO who can't even recall who he is accredited by or how many former students he employs. Another fishy thing, did anyone catch how he said that he teaches girls to not complain all the time/make themselves as victims, but then two statements later he says that girls can come to the staff/employees there about anything? That doesnt add up. I can see the mix message that sends, and Im not a teenage girl. Something is not right about this place or this CEO.
I googled Julian Youth Academy out of interest and found this: http://projects.latimes.com/schools/sch ... h-academy/ (http://projects.latimes.com/schools/school/julian/julian-youth-academy/)
That is a link to a former student bringing these issues up to Phil Ludwig back in 2007 or 2008. There is some interesting stuff on that link. There is no way Phil Ludwig can act like he is surprised by these complaints. This isn't the first time these complaints by former students have been made. Good reporting, A. Shulman. You smell a story, and so do we! Stay on it![/list][/list][/size]
Here's that excellent archive, so to speak, of comments on Julian Youth Academy from the Los Angeles Times... Fwiw, this collection of comments was apparently started back when JYA was still located near Julian, CA.
In light of the subject of this here thread, the concerns voiced by a number of former JYA students and parents re. the very minimal professional qualifications necessary for someone to become staff there, as well as the so-called training they receive, is all the more tragic in retrospect.
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California Schools Guide
Julian Youth Academy (http://http://projects.latimes.com/schools/school/julian/julian-youth-academy/)
(CONFIDENTIAL PER SDE'S CONSENT) 11800 Central Avenue, Suite 123, Chino, 91710
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PRIVATE grades 6-12
Enrollment: 43
Student body
- Enrollment: 43 students
Source: 2009, 2010 state data
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Student-Teacher Ratio: 2:1
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- Total teachers: 22
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Comments about Julian Youth Academy, #s 1-20
— Christine James · October 14, 2008 at 9:36 p.m.
Former Student: According to my eye-witness account, the institution's weaknesses are as follows:
They follow a strict punishment/reward system based on the student's behavior that could be viewed as controversial.
They specialize in behavior modification therapy, however, none of the staff to-date are accredited or licensed counselors, social workers, or psychologist. Many of the staff are under the age of 30. Most ranging in closer proximity to the students age than anything else. Many staff members do not even have a college education.
The program has been adapted from other boarding placement, and behavior modification programs, to which they add other ways of teaching that works best for their circumstances. State, and local government regulation is seriously limited.
Some punishments include isolation, where a child is to go without speaking, looking at, or interacting in any way with other people for a period of time ranging from 24 hours to a month. Other punishments include excessive cleaning, shoveling dirt or digging large holes, over-exertion in exercise such as running until sick. The girls are also required to eat excessive amounts of food and many graduate from the program with a BMI that puts them in the percentile of obesity.
Other behavior modification is used such as writing Biblical verses to excess regardless of your religion, culture, or denomination.
Events from the "outside" world are forbidden in most cases to be discussed or viewed. There is no discussion allowed about politics, other religions outside Christianity, music, art, etc. The curriculum in school is based of Alpha and Omega home studies and many girls are witnessed to be behind in education after they graduate.
The emotional distress caused by the program is evident and outrageous. In some cases, pregnant children are forced to live there against their will and are provided with the very minimal legal requirement of health care.
Other health care concerns have been raised by former parents and students. Physicals and check-ups are not done by a doctor of a parent or child's choosing and are often not granted at all.
There is a lack for basic rights to privacy such as surveillance cameras in the girls dormitory and monitors used to listen in on conversations in the girls private quarters. Upon arrival, girls are not allowed to use the bathroom facilities with the door closed. Even a staff is placed in front of the door. I've witnessed this lead to humiliation and nervousness in the girls. Some girls will hold back their need to use the restroom due to embarrassment, thus creating internal problems which go untreated although often complained about.
I would sum up my biggest complaint about the school by saying for a school to claim to deal specifically with psychological and emotional behavior in teenage girls, they have very limited resources or accreditation to treat such cases.
— Phil Ludwig · October 20, 2008 at 12:53 p.m.
I am responding to the "former student's" eye-witness account posted on October 14, 2008. It appears that the person that submitted this post does not wish to be known for we have never had a student at our school with the name of Christine James.
Point #1: None of the consequences that students experience are any different than those used at public schools. We do not use corporal punishment in any way, shape or form. We do not use scripture as punishment. So as to the "strict" punishment that the writer claimed could be controversial, this is just not true.
Point #2: We are a private school with a registered State Board of Education affidavit. We are a Federal and State non-profit 501(c3) corporation. We are accountable to our accreditation bureau, which holds us to a state legislated standard for all of the school curriculum which we use.
Point #3: We do not use isolation for ANY length of time as discipline for our students. We remove students from inappropriate circumstances or situations, not unlike any public school would do, to protect our student body. We do not have students shoveling dirt or digging holes. We do not abuse any of our students by making them run until they are sick. We do not require the students to eat more than they are comfortable eating.
Point #4: We do not EVER use the
Bible as a means for discipline. In regards to outside world contact being forbidden, we involve our students by going to museums, to the lake for water-skiing trips, and to public restaurants for meals.
Point #5: In the history of our school, we have accepted 3 pregnant teenagers. In every case, the experience was wonderful and there was never any legal or medical resources withheld from the expectant students.
Point #6: We have never refused or withheld medical care from any of our students. We are extremely conservative and if a student says they are ill, even if we suspect that the illness might be feigned by the student, we always treat the complaint as legitimate and act appropriately for the protection of the student.
Point #7: There are no surveillance cameras in any inappropriate location throughout the school campus.
Although this was an obvious attempt to disparage us and what we do, we are a caring Christian school for kids who need redirection. We would encourage you to go to our website at
http://www.teenrescue.com (http://www.teenrescue.com) and determine for yourself who speaks the truth.
Sincerely,
Phil Ludwig, Founder and CEO
Teen Rescue, Inc.[/list]
— SUSAN · October 22, 2008 at 9:25 a.m.
I would just like to speak my mind to Christine James. My name is Susan and I am a parent of a student who is currently in the program. I am very upset and disturbed that you would make comments like that. My daughter like most teenagers these days led a very troubling life and it was not getting better. She was very rebellious, her grades were horrible and school was nothing more than a social gathering, and at the age of 15 she could do it all by her self. My husband and I realized that we just couldn't go on this way and we were losing our daughter. Everything we did just made things worse and we were doomed. We decided that this was bigger then us and we needed help. By the grace of God I found this program called "Julian Youth Academy" and I knew this was the answer to my prayers. Don't get me wrong I looked at other programs, I called each one and did my homework I just kept coming back to Julian. So, once the decision was made to send her to Julian. Then I had to put them under the microscope and check them out. I called parents of former and current students, I also talked to a graduated student and just knew this is the place. My husband and I toured the campus and talked to about 5 girls and asked as many questions as we could think of. I was crying the whole time, and the only thing I could think of was, if my daughter would change at least half of what these girls in front of me were then I would be more then happy. So we did send her and it was the hardest thing that we ever did. The worst thing that ever happened to my family was actually best thing that ever happened to us. My daughter has been in the program almost 9 months, and the change we see in her is the most exciting thing that we have ever experienced. I wish that every parent with a troubled teenager would have the pleasure of sending thier daughter to Julian.
Christine, as to your so called eye-witness accounts I also seen the girls digging with a shovel, they were planting beautifull flowers. And yes they do eat very well, 3 balanced meals a day, every teenager should be so lucky to eat like these girls. My daughter is actually eating vegetables, salads, drinking milk and having fruit on a daily basis. So I think you should be ashamed of yourself for writing such nonsense and get out of the way of a good thing. And as for the staff being under the age of 30 thats not all true but some are, and I feel that thats a good thing. My daughter loves the staff at Julian. The last time I checked, being the age of 25 to 30 is considered an adult.For parents reading this who feel there is no hope for you I strongly suggest you look into this program. The staff at Julian are amazing, I beleive that this place is trully Heaven Sent. I also am more than willing to speak to any one that has questions, especially a parent who is looking for answers. If you call the program they will let you know how to get in contact with me.
Sincerly,
Susan
A happy parent
— Rachael · October 26, 2008 at 3:21 p.m.
PART ONE:
Thank you Susan, I couldn't have said it better myself as a parent. My name is Rachael and my daughter also attends Julian Youth Academy. It isn't fair to share the things my daughter was doing, but I will share what my beautiful daughter went through prior to me sending her to JYA.
My daughter experienced rejection and abandonment. Her father and step-father had been absent from her life, so therefore, there was no male figure for her to look up too. She strived to be different from others in order to get attention. She also felt that physical pain would shield her emotional pain. There was no stability for her, and she chose other outlets outside of her home. Of course, she never felt at home. Nothing was ever good enough for her.
Since Susan gave you a parent's opinion of the school, I'll share some of the things my daughter has shared.
CHRISTINA states, "They follow a strict punishment/reward system based on the student's behavior that could be viewed as controversial." My daughter has shared some of the strict punishments she has been on. One is writing lines, which I currently incorporate in my own home with my other child. I tell you, it's child-abuse. Especially since my daughter at home has gone almost a month from getting an infraction for talking in class after completing 25 lines of "I will not talk in class unless given permission." Another "strict punishment" my daughter has received is RC (restricted conversation). I can see how that could be so strict considering she is a teen-age girl. I'd would've preferred the paddle myself. However, on the positive aspect, it does teach us to think before we speak. I wonder if CHRISTINA has ever stuck her foot in her mouth? CHRISTINA states, "Some punishments include isolation, where a child is to go without speaking, looking at, or interacting in any way with other people for a period of time ranging from 24 hours to a month". Okay CHRISTINA, seriously now. You make it sound like they are placing you in the "box" at prison. My daughter has been unaccountable at times with another student, so therefore, isn't allowed to speak with that student. Unaccountability leads to irresponsibility. We place our daughters there to help them grow, not to fall into the same traps that forced us to place them there in the first place. CONTINUED
— Rachael · October 26, 2008 at 3:27 p.m.
PART TWO
CHRISTINA states, "Other punishments include excessive cleaning, shoveling dirt or digging large holes, over-exertion in exercise such as running until sick." Let's see, my daughter is now helping with chores at home, and she can do the splits. Before the program? She wouldn't help at all with chores, and exercise? Maybe if walking down the stairs for food, sleeping, or walking around the mall count as exercise. I could understand how doing dishes and planting flowers could be tough. And to actually have to run a mile or hike up a hill? Torture I tell you, absolute torture. CHRISTINA states, "The girls are also required to eat excessive amounts of food and many graduate from the program with a BMI that puts them in the percentile of obesity." WOW, a healthy diet vs. fast food. Is excessive eating 3 meals a day? Not to mention, girls can choose to eat "optionals" which gives them the opportunity to say "No". My daughter stopped eating optionals and has lost weight and is almost pimple free. CHRISTINA states, "Events from the "outside" world are forbidden in most cases to be discussed or viewed. There is no discussion allowed about politics, other religions outside Christianity, music, art, etc. The curriculum in school is based of Alpha and Omega home studies and many girls are witnessed to be behind in education after they graduate." The "outside" world promoted the girls getting to the "inside" world to begin with. When I was a teenager, I wasn't able to vote on politics until I was 18. And all that Christian mumbo jumbo. Ah phooey. It all talks about love and good morals. Why would we possibly want that instilled in our girls? CHRISTINA states, "There is a lack for basic rights to privacy such as surveillance cameras in the girls dormitory and monitors used to listen in on conversations in the girls private quarters." I've seen the surveillance cameras you are talking about. They are pointed right to the door entrances. Not the bathroom door, not the changing area, and not the beds. Hmmm, isn't this for safety? There is nothing more precious than having a sexual predator sneak into the room while the girls are in the dining hall. I do know they have monitors too. The girls know about it so it is up to them to be accountable. AGAIN do I need to point out why they are there to begin with?
I love this school. It is the best thing that could've happened to my family. If you want to speak with me, please contact Teen rescue and they will give you my information.
My quote, "If you had a beautiful 67 Ford Mustang, would you take care of the knock or wait for the engine to blow? If your daughter is knocking, open the door before you loose her for good."
— Christine James · November 4, 2008 at 7:31 p.m.
A response to Phil: PART ONE
There may have never been a Christine James. I've been married for quite sometime now.
I am not surprised by your rebuttal, you being the CEO and creator of the program. I am surprised, however, by your blatant disregard for the truth. So let me point them out in the same sequence you used.
Point #1: You said "None of the consequences that students experience are any different than those used at public schools. We do not use corporal punishment in any way, shape or form. We do not use scripture as punishment. So as to the "strict" punishment that the writer claimed could be controversial, this is just not true.
--- Let me start by saying, I never once said you use "corpal punishment." I find it hard to believe you think of the forms of punishment you use as not "strict." Lets start by listing some punishments you use: "No Talk" Which is when you take away speaking privileges. Unless your program has changed very recently, this would include the girls right to talk to other students, talk to staff, and talk to parents. They also may not make eye contact with, smile, or have any non-verbal communication with anyone for a period of time - The girl could be on "No Talk" for a day to a month, until you deem their behavior has changed. I don't believe that is a form of punishment that a "public" school would use. Another punishment would be having the girl write "lines" while on No Talk. Some of these lines, at least when I went there, were biblical verses or sentences about God. In fact, I still have some of the biblical lines I was given while in the program. I'd be happy to mail them to you. Another form of punishment would be putting a girl in her pajamas if she tries to run away. Normally that would accompany receiving lines and No Talk at the same time. Another punishment would be having a girl run laps, or up and down stairs for a specific number of times ranging from 25 to 100. All these, Phil, are not forms of punishment used in public school. And therein lies your first falsehood.
Point #2: No lie there. I will withdraw my issue, although I still that you should be more closely monitored due to the fact you are a behavior modification school.
Point #3: You said you do not use any type of isolation. If this is true, we must have different views on how a girl feels when she is put on "No Talk." I'm sure you have never been on No Talk before, but I have. I was isolated from the other students for 3 weeks. During this time I was not allowed to speak, interact, or even smile at another person in the program. I am sure we could take this form of punishment to a couple of licensed psychologists and see how they view it. I have already seen 3 in the past few years. All of them have viewed that as isolation.
— Christine James · November 4, 2008 at 7:40 p.m.
Point #4: You do use the Bible as form of punishment, in ways I have already explained above. As far as taking the girls to outside Museums and to Lake Perris, those are limited and heavily monitored excursions. Are the girls allowed to speak to anyone outside the program? Are they allowed to talk about anything other than Christian Music? Christian TV shows or programs? Anything other than Christian books? Are they allowed to speak about what they believe in - in regards to political choices they might want to start expressing at that age, or other religions they are interested in? Not when I was there.
— Christine James · November 4, 2008 at 7:48 p.m.
Point #5: I find it appalling that you had 3 pregnant girls there against their will. Can you provide proof that everything went off without problems? Could these girls provide us with some kind of testimony? Would you agree with my opinion that JYA is an emotionally tense and trying place? And you would subject a pregnant young girl to a behavior modification program? Was she informed of her right to go home? Did she have the right to go home and raise her baby how she saw fit? Did you ever put a pregnant girl on "No Talk?" I know of one of those girls, and she tells me otherwise. I'll ask if she would like to submit her testimony.
— Christine James · November 4, 2008 at 8:01 p.m.
Point #6: I know of three girls that had major surgery to treat a problem that was left untreated at JYA. Once again, I'll get permission from these girls to share their stories. I'm sure they'd love to.
Point #7: Were there ever surveillance cameras in the girls dormitory before the Julian Fire? What were the reasons for those cameras? Is it not true that you monitor each girls room to listen in on their conversations?
I am not trying to ruin your reputation here, Phil. I am only stating facts based on my eyewitness account. I have no reason to lie. I went to the program, and I graduated the program. I kept contact with many, many girls who were there with me. I see what many have become. And a very high percentage of them either became pregnant right away, or they became suicidal. Most became heavy drug users. All are affected to this day. I am an adult now, and I've had time to reflect on my time there with the wisdom and knowledge I have learned through both college and life in general. I believe the place is harmful to the psychological and emotional well-being of a young girl. And most importantly, I believe it is irresponsible that you run a behavior modification program without even having a child psychologist on the daily staff. Which, by the way, was my main point in my first post, and the only point you did not refute.
— Chistine James · November 4, 2008 at 8:43 p.m.
PART ONE To both the parents who responded above:
Look, I feel your irritation. Who wants to hear negative things about a school they paid good money for to help "heal" their unruly or even dangerous daughter?
I am not some young kid taking a stab at a program I resented. I am an adult who went there as a child and can bear witness to the events that took place while I was there and how it affects me to this day.
The bottom line is this, you parents are not there everyday. You don't know that when a parent comes to tour the facility the girl who speaks to them must be on their best behavior. You aren't there when the girls are crying for days on end out of a sense of abandonment. You want a trained kid who doesn't act up at home? Well congratulations, you'll probably get one... for awhile. I am sure JYA teaches great things to the parents who go to the monthly meetings. I've read Phil's blog, and you know what? I think its great! I think its informative and has some nice techniques on how to deal with teens. But while you sit in that meeting and learn these wonderful things, your little girl is far away from you in a program with a bunch of other little girls who miss their families and will learn anything they can to get out. I was a great student at JYA. I was a great kid when I left. I refused to process what happened to me there until a little later on in life. And when I finally did, it wasn't pretty. This program teaches girls that their value is based on an eval/point system. They made the bed. 10 points. They did their daily devotions. Another 10. They didn't act up on parent visit. They were respectful. 10. 10. But what does it teach them about their personalities? Well, in my experience and with consulting with other girls there it taught us that we were manipulators, what we cared about was insignificant, and the only way to get through the program is to please the ones in control of it. ---You want to know what it feels like to be placed in a program and have your progress and your value based on a point system? Go down to the annual dog show in San Diego. Watch the rewards they get for obeying. In the end, you are going to lose your daughter. But you'll have a great pet.
— Christine James · November 4, 2008 at 8:44 p.m.
--Maybe thats a bit harsh. So let me at least leave you with this: I can give you at least 60 names of girls who graduated JYA and lived well for a couple years. That same number has gone on to either join gangs, do hardcore drugs, have children, have abortions, not talk to their parents, have social anxiety disorders, have abandonment issues, get involved in dangerous relationships with men, the list goes on. There are many flaws in that program. If I must name the greatest one its this: What special license do these people have? What actual psychological merit do they have to treat these girls? What training? These are girls who come in troubled and/or hurt. These are girls that need real help. Putting them in a group of other girls all like them and letting someone else raise them will not help. It will harm. Most of these staff are not college graduates, social/clinical health workers, psychologist or even parents!. What the heck do they know about whats good for your child?
— Former "student," survivor, mother · November 6, 2008 at 3:11 p.m.
As humans, we have fundamental and basic rights. This is the founding principle behind every free society, democracy and the US Constitution. Rights are not something that we must beg for, or that are subject to the whim of any government or authorities but are things that we are entitled to. In their most simple form, human rights are those basic standards without which people cannot live in dignity.
Human rights also extend to children. Children are not the property of their parents, and their rights cannot be revoked at a parent's whim or due to their parent's religious beliefs, ignorance or even callous disregard. The parent's rights do not supersede those of their child. A child is a person and not a sub-person. They have a name and an identity that belongs only to them.
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I am a survivor of a faith-based residential treatment center called Julian Youth Academy, located in the mountains of San Diego, CA. Although the extent of my abuse was psychological and emotional, I consider the damage to me as harmful as any other form of abuse, such as physical abuse. Broken bones may heal in 6-8 weeks, but hearts sometimes never heal.
My goal has been to legally support the regulation of private institutions. I want private institutions that house children (minors) to be held accountable to the same basic civil laws that public institutions are, such as access to advocacy. There lies a problem with regulation and accountability in private institutions.
The scars that “programs” inflict are not seen on the outside or on one's skin. They go much deeper. With respect to what daughters and children go through at home and in life--I believe that those experiences are necessary in order to reach maturity, which is the ability for a young adult to make decisions on their own. I believe that programs not only prolong this important part of social development, but that they cause sometimes irreversible damage to a person with the isolation and lack of trust or belief which programs like Julian Youth Academy’s staff encourages: thinks is "helping."
I believe children should be seen, heard, and most importantly, believed.
(cont'd)
— JYA survivor · November 6, 2008 at 3:13 p.m.
(cont'd) Here is the exact truth about my personal experience. Nothing is falsified or exaggerated. I am a real person who feels obligated to share my experience in effort to expose the truth about this program. I support Senator Miller’s bill H.R. 6358, Stop Child Abuse in Residential Programs for Teens Act of 2008.
My Testimony:
At 14 years old, I was awakened on a cold August morning at 5am to strangers who forced me to either dress in front of them or remain in the scant pajamas I was in. I chose the latter for obvious privacy reasons. I was not granted permission to use the restroom, or any other personal hygiene habits before what I was told would be "a long trip." My younger brother was asleep, and I would not get to see, write to, or talk to him until a year later. My older sister, I will never forget, stared into my eyes with such sadness and intensity that I was stricken to muteness and shock for the entirety of the 6 hour car ride to Julian, CA. I knew not that I would also not have contact with her, nor family other than my mother and father, for about a year.
As the escorts asked me if I knew or wanted to know where they were taking me, I remained in shock and was unable to speak or express needs to these strangers.
Upon arrival, I remained in “intake” status for almost nine hours, refusing to dress and demanding that I should get one phone call, “Even criminals get a phone call.” I was not a criminal, nor was I ever involved in using drugs or alcohol, promiscuity, or otherwise physically harmful behavior. I was a victim of a statutory rape crime, and the perpetrator is now walking the streets! Due to the emotional trauma that caused and the abandonment I felt from my parents not seeking understanding from me, retrospectively I hold to the fact that I “rebelled” as mildly as any “normal,” healthy teenager would.
During my imprisonment at Julian Youth Academy (aka JYA), which was a period of fifteen months and sixteen days, I was treated like property through lack of sympathy, lack of care for emotional needs, lack of care for health needs, constant disbelief from staff and directors and punishment for expressing my human and health needs, lack of anyone to trust, zero advocacy, and lack of experienced and trained staff.
— JYA survivor · November 6, 2008 at 3:14 p.m.
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When taken down from 4,000 ft elevation to 3,000 ft to attend mandatory church services every Sunday for fifteen plus months, I would suffer from debilitating and extremely painful migraines. The first two Sundays, I was given no more than 400mg of Tylenol each instance, which was 200-400mg less than the recommended dosage for my weight and age at the time. The third time I was suffering from these migraines, I was denied medicinal relief of any kind, was told I was manipulating staff for merely requesting medicine, and was verbally forced to stop crying or making any noises or movements in attempts to relieve or take my mind off the excruciating pain. I was never granted medicinal relief for the remaining fifteen months, and was forced to suffer in silence with the threat of punishment if I ever asked for medicine for my headaches again. I know that had I had access to an object that could puncture, I surely would have punctured my brain just to relieve the blood from my head. Seeing and reading about the sufferings and numerous deaths of children under the “care” of treatment facilities, my suffering seems humble, but valid nonetheless.
2. The other regulation I’d like to emphasize is the need for one or more neutral, medically or otherwise qualified third-party evaluation(s) prior to admittance of a child (US resident under the age of 18) into a residential or non-residential private treatment center. The reasoning behind this is that parents do not always know how to approach their children when a problem is suspected or have the courage or rapport with their children to do so anyway. A neutral and qualified third party evaluation can significantly bridge the gap of communication between parent and child, and can positively influence the parents’ ultimate decision to be an appropriate one.
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— JYA survivor · November 6, 2008 at 3:15 p.m.
(cont'd) I have forgotten, by choice and through determination of self, a lot of what happened at JYA. Happenings were not easy to push out of my mind, and it took years to do so. I do remember as clearly as it was at the time, the cloud of fogginess in my head and in my heart following leaving the program. My brain had fully disassociated with true reality because of the false reality that took place within the walls of the program. I was lost. It would be years before I could be alone in a room or even a public place without having a panic attack. I also suffered from panic attacks when in environments that shouldn't have been socially overwhelming, like a baseball game or the city college. I had to start from scratch, as if the program literally re-programmed me (Its no wonder why they call it that) and none of my software was in yet. I walked like a zombie, not knowing what windows to open to get where I needed or wanted to go. Its like they erased all my drivers (for those of you who don't know about computers, those are what run each program). So I knew where I wanted to go, but was emotionally, mentally, physically unable to connect where I was to where I needed to be. I was always an A student before the program, now I was finding it difficult to take regular college classes that would have been a breeze for me if I hadn't been "dumbed-down" by the lack of trained professionals present at the "school." 90% of my school-related questions (the only questions we were allowed to ask) were unanswerable by the "teachers"--most staff had little more than high school education.
I was emotionally detached. I was unable to feel love for my parents, even when I tried. My younger brother and I grew apart, when previously we were the two playing cars in the dirt together. My sister has always been here for me, and I can truly say that without her love and support, I would not be where I am today. I had much difficulty in relationships, and felt uncomfortable around people in general. Because I was never able to stand up for myself and be assertive in my needs, those needs went unmet in my marriage which of course led to periods of marital separation. I suffered from not only the panic attacks (sometimes total loss of consciousness) I mentioned, but sexual difficulty as well, which had to do with my past abuse (only the statutory rape, no other family or other sexual abuse) but more so the fact that I never received professional help for healing for that trauma.
(cont'd)
— JYA survivor, mother · November 6, 2008 at 3:18 p.m.
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My physical health covered up the damage inside. I smiled for years after the program while crying on the inside, because that was the only "coping" method I knew how to do. I had carried that same smile for the last 15 and one half months.
These are some conditions of the facility, and some of the rules I can remember:
1. No freedom of speech
2. Calisthenic punishment for minor infractions, such as forgetting water bottle or looking at other student you were not allowed to talk to ("no talk")
3. Forced eating
4. Monitored communication in all forms
-letters were to be handed to staff without closure, to allow for strict monitoring and alteration, up to and including having to re-write as many times as necessary to fit the standard of what was allowed to be written to parents NOTHING "considered "negative" against the program was allowed at any time
-phone calls were "earned" and only after four months, to parents only, completely monitored, staff would hang up if anything negative about the program was said
-parent visits on campus were constantly monitored closely by staff (conversations required staff presence), and parents were required to tell staff if daughter spoke negatively in any way about the program.
5. Bathroom resrictions, inadequate facilities during school hours (one double bathroom to 30+ girls), only two girls allowed to use restroom at a time, which was a walk to and from the facility 100 ft away, next buddy group unable to ask until the last group came back. (sometimes we'd have to wait 45 or more minutes to use the restroom)
6. Continuous student cleaning. we did all maintenace of grounds, including chopping trees, which gave me bloody, blistered hands. Raking each and every single leaf of large forest or endure punishment. Extreme cleaning standards. all cleaning done by students. Staff did for a short time upon my arrival, help with cleaning/chores, but then staff was not permitted to help per superior staff.
(cont'd)
— JYA survivor, mother · November 6, 2008 at 3:19 p.m.
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7. Students were held responsible for other student's failures to follow rules. Low level students were spoken for by higher leveled students. Low level students were not allowed to speak directly to staff unless spoken to or if higher leveled student asked for them to speak with a staff member. Low level students were restricted from speaking to (in any form of communication, including glancing) other students who had not yet attained a certain level of the program.
8. No treatment for individual issues. Speaking about issues were not allowed until staff approved (average length of stay before allowed to speak about issues at home or personal issues: 8-9 months). All students were regarded as manipulative, untrustworthy children (all students were over the age of 13) who deserved no respect and were not regarded as individuals.
9. Forced attendance of church services.
10. I was forced to grate blocks of cheese until I had blisters on my hands.
11. Denied proper medication. Medication not dispensed by licensed or qualified medical personnel.
12. Forced calisthenics in mountainous terrain, hills so inclined and at such high altitudes (4,000 ft) that I was nauseous, dizzy, and felt like I was going to faint (I'm not sure how I didn't). I believe this was part of the mental breakdown prior to and during brainwashing.
13. Not permitted to speak with siblings until a certain level (usually after one year), and only if those siblings supported the program. I never saw my sister, who felt what my parents did to me was wrong, the entire time of being held at the program. I was not allowed to write siblings or grandparents or any other immediate family, only parents.
14. Never permitted to communicate with friends at home.
15. Not allowed to express creativity, such as drawing or musical instruments, until reaching a certain level (usually about 4-6 months after admittance, and only if you attained that level). No "secular" (non-Christian) music, and music was only played in the car in the way to church.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Most rules were mild, and punishment did not include physical abuse reported in other programs. What is wrong about this and all other programs in this class is the brainwashing tactic. The mental and verbal abuse and conditioning, and monotonous strict schedule conformed us into thinking that everything was okay, and that we would have died if we hadn't been sent there. The threat which stopped me and probably most others was the fact that we'd get sent to the physically abusive programs if we did not comply.
(cont'd)
— JYA survivor, mother · November 6, 2008 at 3:20 p.m.
(cont'd) Girls there are not allowed to talk to each other very much. A girl is on what's called "no talk" (no communication whatsoever, including gestures and eye contact) automatically for the first 4-5 days. She can only tell her "up buddy" (a girl who has been there a certain amount of time and has achieved a certain level in the level system they use) if there's a need to use the restroom, or wants to talk to a staff member. Those first 4-5 days is when you're supposed to observe the rules and are expected to know and follow ALL rules after that time is over. However, this is really difficult because you cannot talk or be spoken to. right after those first days, you get off "no talk." and are allowed to talk to your own up-buddy (everyone is either an up buddy or a down buddy depending on the level achieved) and she is supposed to tell you all the rules. If you have a bad up buddy (isn't helping you at all) then you won't know the rules and will go punished a lot because you are then expected to know and follow them. Another person's up buddy is not allowed to help another person's down buddy with rules.
The level system goes A-L3. A is the first 4-5 days of no talk. after that, girls go to B automatically. C-J are levels where they receive "privileges" (I would call them rights) back. for instance, you cannot draw pictures until you are on D. you get to use stickers on level C. I can't remember what you get on E. plus these might have changed a bit, and can be revoked at any time for an individual (i.e. if staff thinks you're drawing "too much" at their discretion they will take that "privilege" away without notice or reason.), or for the whole group.
Once they get to level G, girls can talk to all the "down buddies." It's very difficult at first because you're not used to being discerning about who you can or can not talk to. in the real world, obviously you have the ability to choose who you want to talk to. You can also become an up buddy, and usually do at some point if staff thinks you're ready, at level G or H or so. Level F is one 15-20 minute phone call to the parent. They're not allowed to keep a journal until E or F, even then staff reads everything and they can't write friend's names and they can't talk about anything in your past unless it's positive. Things may have changed, but knowing the changes that were made shortly after I left, they must be less lenient.
When I was there, they did not have cameras, just speaker boxes in the corner of each room. Just before I left, they added cameras in each hallway and when I went back for "graduation" there were cameras in the rooms. I do not know if there are cameras in the bathrooms. As the place burned down a couple years ago, everything is new and I'm sure the technology has been updated.
(cont'd)
— JYA survivor, mother · November 6, 2008 at 3:21 p.m.
(cont'd)
The fact that JYA expects uncompromised, unquestioned dedication and commitment from parents is one of the scariest signs to me and is reflective of many cultist organizations. Personally, I question my doctors, my therapists, and any professionals recommending treatment or solutions for me. I believe it is my right to refuse treatment and my right to know the intentions of those professionals. As far as I know, they do not require parents to seek professional opinions regarding their child's mental, emotional, or physical state prior to acceptance of entry into the program. Programs telling parents "your child will die without us" is another very scary statement, and parents who are vulnerable (of course) and at their last ounce of emotional strength will believe them. I probably would, too, if I didn't know better.
This is where I stand, and I am not a professional but I am a mother. I am currently in an early childhood education class where I am learning a tremendous amount about children and humans as the social beings that we are. Because my parents were supportive and truly wanted the best for me, I believe that would have been enough, in addition to professional therapy, to get me through the non-violent trauma I endured as a teenager. I was a victim of a crime, and being sent away couldn’t have been further from the healing I needed. It was isolation at its worst, when all I needed was hugs, comfort, support no matter what mistakes I made, and unconditional love, especially from my parents and especially at times when I was hurt the most. Not receiving that affection due to being isolated at JYA has affected me in every single area of my life.
— JYA survivor, mother · November 6, 2008 at 3:22 p.m.
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Hearing date set for woman accused of murdering her baby (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/dec/16/hearing-date-set-woman-accused-murdering-her-baby/)
By Record Searchlight staff
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:22 a.m., updated December 16, 2011 at 11:22 a.m.
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Bradford
A Thursday preliminary hearing date was set today in Shasta County Superior Court for a 23-year-old woman accused of starving her four-day-old baby to death.
A preliminary hearing for Jessica Nicole Bradford had been scheduled for earlier this week, but it was postponed because the sheriff's investigation into the case was still underway.
Bradford, who has pleaded not guilty, is charged with murder, child abuse and a related enhancement in connection with her infant daughter's death.
She remains in the Shasta County jail with bail set at $1 million,
Bradford was arrested on Nov. 7, a day after the baby's mummified body was found at the Julian Youth Academy in Whitmore when a school employee alerted authorities.
Bradford worked as a staff member at the private Christian boarding school for troubled teens.
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Comments (http://http://www.redding.com/news/2011/dec/16/hearing-date-set-woman-accused-murdering-her-baby/) left for the above article, "Hearing date set for woman accused of murdering her baby (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=38150&p=412091#p412090)" (by Record Searchlight staff; December 16, 2011; Record Searchlight):
taylorhartman writes: December 16, 2011 11:32 a.m.
WOW!! How can someone sleep at night knowing that they killed there baby??? RIP baby
seenufos writes: December 16, 2011 11:45 a.m.
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emeroldtriangle writes: December 16, 2011 11:50 a.m.
Only one place left for her. Rhymes with smell.
Bittersweet writes: December 16, 2011 noon
Into the arms of the angels goes another innocent child. I wish I had the power to stop this. I wish I could have saved this baby.
anotherview writes: December 16, 2011 12:46 p.m.
If there was ever a reason for sterilization, she is it!
emeroldtriangle writes: December 16, 2011 12:58 p.m.
anotherview:
If there was ever a reason for sterilization, she is it!
[/list][/size]What if we offered money rewards for women who chose to be fixed and not have kids. this would save us millions if not billions in the long run.[/list]
Cynicalone writes: December 16, 2011 2:40 p.m.
emeroldtriangle:
Only one place left for her. Rhymes with smell.
[/list][/size]Shell? How about we leave the judgment to God.[/list]
littlepinkhouses writes: December 16, 2011 6:37 p.m.
My Almost Mother
You steal my life,
I have no chance,
I want to live,
And find life's romance.
You strike me down,
Do you have no soul?
I thought you would love me,
'Cause I love you so.
I call you mother,
And father too,
But you kill me,
And it doesn't bother you.
Do you wonder what I would be,
Do you wonder what I am,
I wanted to be a football player,
To be your little man.
My birthday was yesterday,
The one you got to miss,
But I'm up in Heaven,
With all of death's gifts.
God loves me,
I hope you love me too,
But it doesn't look like it,
Since I'm not there with you.
I hope you know I love you,
I love you very much,
But I wish you could hear my voice,
And feel my baby touch.
My heart started to beat,
When you killed me in cold blood,
My ears started to hear your voice,
It was a warming flood.
You felt me kick,
You never heard me talk,
How can you be so heartless,
To not want to see your baby walk.
I'll never have a kid myself,
Nor will my sister have a brother,
I would have protected her,
But you never protected me...
Goodbye now and forever...
My Almost Mother.
OnetoWatch writes: December 16, 2011 7:23 p.m.
I am confused. So the hearing was today or it was set today for a later date?
I seriously wonder how they are building a defense for this girl. She already admitted to the crime! I hope the school isnt getting off scott free either. The way they did not call to report the murder for two days after finding the body is just disgusting.
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