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Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2005, 05:02:00 AM
Would you want this man to have the care of your child?

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2005 ... news07.txt (http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2005/02/03/news/mtregional/news07.txt)

Plains man shot multiple times, shooter kills self

By John Stromnes of the Missoulian

PLAINS - A Thompson Falls man shot another man multiple times with a handgun early Wednesday morning, then shot and killed himself at a Plains residence, law officers in Sanders County said.

The shooter, after seven rounds, turned the gun on himself and committed suicide, according to Plains Police Chief Shawn Emmett, who is handling the investigation.

Remarkably, the victim, Marvin Burrell, 28, of Plains, survived as many as seven gunshot wounds. Burrell worked for a local concrete company, the police chief said.

The dead man was identified as Keith Wood, 31, of Thompson Falls, who was employed at Spring Creek Lodge, a residential academy for troubled youth west of Thompson Falls.

The handgun was a .40-caliber Glock semi-automatic pistol.

Sanders County Sheriff Gene Arnold said Burrell was taken to Clark Fork Valley Hospital in Plains where he was treated and "stabilized." He was then transported to St. Patrick Hospital in Missoula where he was listed in serious condition Wednesday night.

Burrell had multiple surgeries, but appears to be recovering, said Emmett, who noted that Burrell suffered gunshot wounds to his chest, arms and legs.

The shooting occurred about 2:15 a.m. at a duplex in Plains. Four people were in the rental unit. Neither Wood nor Burrell lived there.

Wood's body was taken to the state Crime Lab in Missoula for an autopsy. Investigation into motive is ongoing.

The two men were not close friends or acquaintances, Emmett said.

Officers were called to the scene immediately after the shooting by others at the apartment. Further details were not immediately available.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2005, 09:07:00 AM
What do you suppose was behind this, if the two men didn't even know one another?
That is very odd.
Wonder what he did at SCL?
I hope the story is followed up on.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2005, 10:01:00 AM
At a guess?  Somebody did something the other one thought was rude or inconsiderate, that one said or did something hostile "back" and it escalated from there.

Um...why you don't want your kid cared for in a facility where the state doesn't require them, by law, to do criminal background checks on employees.

But are there *any* states that require it?

I don't know.

But it sure is one of the reforms the industry needs.

People who murder (and this guy was certainly trying to) have an average of one prior felony conviction and generally have a rap sheet as long as your arm.

Odds on, this was not this fool's first brush with the law.

Then again, if the facilities did criminal background checks and didn't hire people with long rap sheets, maybe they'd have to pay their employees more.  *gasp* Oh, the horror!  The humanity!

 :roll:

Okay, assumption on little data, I know, but the odds still are that the shooter had a record.  And probably other obvious warning signs, too.

Usually when you look back at one of these cases the warning signs are glaringly obvious and anybody but a total idiot would have known the guy was a ticking timebomb.

Unfortunately, the ones that say, "No, there were no warning signs at all...." are usually total idiots.

"Oh, well, he always said Norman Bates was his hero, but he was such a kidder!  Always joking around like that.  One time he even snuck into my house and surprised me in the shower with a knife.  Such a practical joker!  Wonderful sense of humor for such a quiet guy.  Always minded his own business, kept to himself....  Nope, no warning signs at all."

:roll:

Timoclea
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2005, 09:25:00 PM
My my my Keith Wood was part of the nurturing loving credentialed Spring Creek Lodge staff which Lisa I from Teen Help told us was the best that World Wide had to offer.

He sounds consistent with the details I have heard from kids who had been there .


Unbelievable.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 01:30:00 AM
I am a former student of Spring Creek Lodge and of Mr. Keith Wood. He was definitely an amazing and compassionate man. He was always there to help and cared about each and every one of his students. Spring Creek Lodge was one of the best experiences of my life. It was a difficult journey but what do you expect a recovery program to be, easy? I don?t think you should post things that you have no personal experience of, because if it weren?t for SCLA myself and a lot of other successful former students would be lost. Spring Creek Lodge and Mr. Keith Wood along with many other of the staff have helped hundreds of confused lost and lonely young adults to find their true selves. they have  assisted in bringing broken families back together. they assisted me in finding my purpose and setting up a values system for my life, as well as assisted me in repairing the relationship with my parents and family. Who I love very dearly to this day. Keith Wood was a good man, We all make non-working decisions in life, and no one knows what went on that night when this horrible tragedy happened. I am not saying that his choice was a good one because I don?t think that it was at all, but you cant blame SCLA for his actions. All I know is that at SCLA Keith Wood was a great person to be around and was always there to help. He had faith is each and every one of his students, and held them to a high standard for success. Keith Wood was a devoted man to his students and friends and he will be missed by many. He made a non-working decision but we will always love him and miss him.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Perrigaud on February 07, 2005, 04:26:00 AM
What about the priests that molest people. A lot of people go to church.
People that do such crimes against humanity are found everywhere. Look at Mr. Gacy. No one would ever think he was capable of such things. He was a husband, a dad, a buisiness man, and a nieghbor that no one ever suspected a thing. It's scary but not surprising.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 06:51:00 AM
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On 2005-02-06 22:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am a former student of Spring Creek Lodge and of Mr. Keith Wood. He was definitely an amazing and compassionate man. He was always there to help and cared about each and every one of his students. Spring Creek Lodge was one of the best experiences of my life. It was a difficult journey but what do you expect a recovery program to be, easy? I don?t think you should post things that you have no personal experience of, because if it weren?t for SCLA myself and a lot of other successful former students would be lost. Spring Creek Lodge and Mr. Keith Wood along with many other of the staff have helped hundreds of confused lost and lonely young adults to find their true selves. they have  assisted in bringing broken families back together. they assisted me in finding my purpose and setting up a values system for my life, as well as assisted me in repairing the relationship with my parents and family. Who I love very dearly to this day. Keith Wood was a good man, We all make non-working decisions in life, and no one knows what went on that night when this horrible tragedy happened. I am not saying that his choice was a good one because I don?t think that it was at all, but you cant blame SCLA for his actions. All I know is that at SCLA Keith Wood was a great person to be around and was always there to help. He had faith is each and every one of his students, and held them to a high standard for success. Keith Wood was a devoted man to his students and friends and he will be missed by many. He made a non-working decision but we will always love him and miss him.





"


The amount of cultspeak in that post is frightening.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 11:15:00 AM
That post sounds like WWASPS's PR department.....
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 11:47:00 AM
This person's "feed back" is so obvious.

"Keith Wood made a non working decision."

Tht's nice the other guy has seven bullets in him.  My question is,  did Keith Wood have nay prior offenses and why would a Non working decision maker be working with at risk teens in an unregulated enviornment?

I say save the BS for people who don't really know what takes place at SCL behind closed doors.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
I was in SCL for a while several years ago... and just found this website. I'm glad there are other's out there talking about what really goes on in that hell hole. I can't remember a staff with that name, Keith. Hope he thought about the kids still there when he pulled the trigger.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Antigen on February 07, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
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On 2005-02-06 22:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

All I know is that at SCLA Keith Wood was a great person to be around and was always there to help.


Except, of course, when he went on a homocidal, suicidal rampage.

Do you understand that this "non working decision" of Mr. Wood's is what people in the real world call "homocidal psychosis"? And that it's just sheer luck that you're around to talk about it? He might just as easily have plugged you and a few others while at SCLA instead of the other place.

The depth of brainwashing evident in your response is astounding! Do you have any idea how hard it is for Program vets to make normal people understand just how bug all crazy you people are? Thank you for your contribution to the discussion. It really is helpful.

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves

--Ronald Reagan

Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: LSwi on February 07, 2005, 04:06:00 PM
Are we talking about Amy's Keith??  and what exactly happened?
someone fill me in.  
Any old innocence family out there?
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 04:51:00 PM
I know a family that lives in the area where all this happened.
When the story hit the paper, I asked if they could shed any light on the event.
I was told that the conversation at Boondoglers (the local beer joint)has it that Woods was dating a lady know around there as Bongo Bonnie.
Bongo Bonnie was playing the field, and someone ratted her out to Woods.
He went over to her place just as a party was breaking up and blasted a man who had returned for his coat. Don't know weather or not the dude was Bongo's play mate. He might have just gotten between Woods and her - might have trying to help her - Might have just shown up at the wrong time.
Comment on Woods ranged from he was a nice guy, to he was a loose cannon, and so on. About what you'd expect.
But anyway - that is the talk at the beer joint where he hung out.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 10:34:00 PM
:eek:
I am also a former student at Spring Creek. As much as I hated doing some of the stuff we had to do there.. I would have been dead if I wouldnt have went. I was close with keith and he is an amazing person. I couldnt believe that keith would go to the extent of shooting someone... over a girl... Yes that settles it.. hands down.. Dude was fuckin keith's girl and he was in a jealious rage. Thats what happend. If I ever see the girl please know Im gonna take it to her ass.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Antigen on February 07, 2005, 10:49:00 PM
Well, here's hoping that you don't run into the girl before you've had some time to cool down and think things through. It's not her fault that the guy turned out to be a fucking psycho. No matter how bad a lover's betrayal can tear you up, and no matter how badly the guy might have treated the girl, that was a fucking insane response by any reasonable standard.

Tragic, yes. But not the girl's fault.

G:   "If we do happen to step on a mine, Sir, what do we do?"
EB:  "Normal procedure, Lieutenant, is to jump 200 feet in the air and scatter oneself over a wide area."
-- Somewhere in No Man's Land, BA4

Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: nite owl on February 08, 2005, 08:03:00 AM
Is it any wonder?  I've said this many times before these programs attract perverts, pediophiles and other deviants.  This is why so few of the staff members speak out against the programs. They actually enjoy and derive pleasure from punishing and abusing the children in their care.

The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.
--Abraham Lincoln, U.S. President

Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 08, 2005, 10:35:00 AM
I would agree that these programs do attract those on a power trip, as well as those into sadism and sex with children.
But lets be fair. They also attract those who have compassion and a heart for helping troubled kids and teens.
And also, let us not forget, these programs are often located in communities with a very small economy and not many job choices - and so they will attract people who just need the work - any work.

I was given quite a bit of info on Mr. Woods. I only related what involved the shooting. I don't want to go into all the rest - but I will say it sounds like he had a fairly difficult childhood which he was *possibly* not able to overcome. Sounds like he did *possibly* have a basically caring nature - but clearly, his emotions could run the show; beyond control of his rational mind. He clearly was a dangerous dude. This wasn't his first act of violence, according to the beer joint source.
Sadly, he clearly understood the gravity of his actions and felt deep regret - as he is now dead by his own hand. A tragedy all the way around.
I imagine Bongo Bonnie is going to be feeling some extreme emotions as a result. She will most likely be beating herself up for the rest of her life - So, no need, SCL kid, to go and help her out with that task. Besides - didn't they teach you there is no right or wrong? That ?Based on results you have exactly what you intended.? So - this was what each person wanted weather or not they knew it - isn't that what this program speak means?
Anyway - it is a tragic thing and no doubt a lot of people are heart broke and some may never recover.
Should SCL have known Woods was a time bomb?
I don't know. But in light of his history for assault, it seems to me they should have.
Did he loose control with the kids?
I don't know. I hope not. But in light of his obvious tendency to rage - it seems all to likely.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: spots on February 08, 2005, 12:34:00 PM
Well, I'm a confirmed cynic by now, so I'll add my little bit about the "former SCLA student" who wrote so poignantly about Mr. Woods.

When I re-read the WWASP-speak statement, it did indeed sound like a programmed juvenile.  However, a creeping thought came to mind.  During the period when Tim Wiener's front-page article on Spring Creek came up on the New York Times, the parents of SCLA were sent a letter from the director about responding to the criticism.  In a knee-jerk rambling email (which I had a copy of, and I *think* I posted on Fornits), parents were told exactly what to say to media inquiries, given addresses to write Letters to the Editor, and given the Good Ole Boy pep talk.  I was surprised at the non-professional writing, much like Ken Kay's "they're all a bunch of liars, disgruntled parents/kids/staff, etc.".  The lengthy letter also had spelling and syntax errors, which seemed unworthy of someone running a *BOARDING SCHOOL*.

Well, it's not too great a stretch to see the same rambling, unprofessional, somewhat-illiterate writing in our Former SCLA Student.  Golly, could it be that Mr. Keith Wood's admirerer is none other than the Director of Spring Creek Lodge?
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 08, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
The woman is in the hospital, having attempted suicide herself.  Read the Missoulian Online, they are continuing to cover the story.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2005, 05:24:00 PM
Mr. Keith.
    I am a former student of SCL and this news completely took me by surprise. I havent talked to Keith in Six months so I did not know what was going on with him to help provoke this. All I know is that he was an awesome man. He meant a lot to me. He talked to me and was a friend to me when many of my own peers were not. He always, and I mean always, looked out for the kids. He was one of the best staff members that I ever had. He will be missed.
     Sure, he made a mistake. Sure he had his motives(Who knows what they were). Sure he had his secrets. And yes I do believe it was a tragedy. I have considered suicide, but tell me one person that hasnt. i dont think there is anything that is so bad you should kill yourself.
    I have cried many times since I heard the news about Mr. Keith. I never expected it. I do have to say that as a program grad, SCL is and was the best thing that ever happened in my life. At the rate I was going I would have been dead by now. I thank God every day for answering someones prayers and saving my life. I do not regret my past or my experiences, because they make me who i am. I am proud and absolutely honored to have known Mr. Keith and all of the other staff, teachers, and students while I was at SCL.
    I wanted to dedicate a song to Mr. Keith. I heard this song on the radio just a few minutes after i heard the news of his death. I would also like to dedicate this song to anyone who has ever struggled in life.       -"Hero" By Mariah Carey
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2005, 05:35:00 PM
I am not sure who the real psychos are because from my experince of this forum, there are a lot of sadistic people out there. There was never any molesters or gangbangers or pedifiles or jerkoffs or psychotic homosexual necrophyliacs!!!! the jerkoffs are the ones in here bad mouthing everything that went on in SCLA. if you have no understanding of what happened or have never experienced SCLA yourself then shut the fuck up and stop trying to call this guy psycho. we all have our secrets. i encourage you to face your demons when you are having the hardest time of your life and see if you can live with all the bad shit you have done. take a look at yourself and know that somewhere deep down inside that you to could have done the same thing
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Cayo Hueso on February 10, 2005, 05:48:00 PM
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On 2005-02-07 19:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

" :scared: But you sure do illustrate how truly sick these places are.

...and in all indictments for libels the jury shall have the right to determine the law and the facts, under the direction of the court, as in other cases.

(Jury nullification. It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
Declaration of Rights, PA Constitution

Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Cayo Hueso on February 10, 2005, 05:56:00 PM
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On 2005-02-10 14:24:00, Anonymous wrote:


     Sure, he made a mistake. Sure he had his motives(Who knows what they were). Sure he had his secrets. And yes I do believe it was a tragedy. I have considered suicide, but tell me one person that hasnt. i dont think there is anything that is so bad you should kill yourself.

I realize it's just a side note to you but this was a HOMICIDE/suicide.  He shot this guy 7 times.  As incidental as this fact seems to be to you, I'm sure it's very significant to the guy and his family.
 
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 I wanted to dedicate a song to Mr. Keith. I heard this song on the radio just a few minutes after i heard the news of his death. I would also like to dedicate this song to anyone who has ever struggled in life.       -"Hero" By Mariah Carey  "


All I can do is shake my head.  I cannot believe how completely and fully indoctrinated you people are.  Each time I think I can't be more shocked at the depths to which this shit goes someone like you comes along.  Fucking amazing.

In war, the stronger overcomes the weaker. In business, the stronger imparts strength to the weaker.
--Frederic Bastiat

Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Antigen on February 10, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
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On 2005-02-10 14:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am not sure who the real psychos are because from my experince of this forum, there are a lot of sadistic people out there. There was never any molesters or gangbangers or pedifiles or jerkoffs or psychotic homosexual necrophyliacs!!!! the jerkoffs are the ones in here bad mouthing everything that went on in SCLA. if you have no understanding of what happened or have never experienced SCLA yourself then shut the fuck up and stop trying to call this guy psycho. we all have our secrets. i encourage you to face your demons when you are having the hardest time of your life and see if you can live with all the bad shit you have done. take a look at yourself and know that somewhere deep down inside that you to could have done the same thing "


You really don't get it, do you? The difference, I mean.

These are words. Ideas. Sentiments. Sometimes really mean spirited and ugly. But never even aproaching the impact of bullets!

No, I'm absolutely confident that, even when faced w/ all kinds of horrible betrayal and raging emotions, that I have not and will never put 7 bullets in anyone unless they're trying to kill me AND that's the ONLY defense left to me.

If he had lived, this could be a death penalty offense. Do you get that? Does it not make sense?

If this guy is your hero and your role model, does that mean you might go out and riddle somebody w/ bullets if your girlfriend cheats on you?

 :eek:

Come to the woods, for here is rest. There is no repose like that of the green deep woods. Here grow the wallflower and the violet. The squirrel will come and sit upon your knee, the logcock will wake you in the morning. Sleep in forgetfulness of all ill. Of all the upness accessible to mortals, there is no upness comparable to the mountains.
-- John Muir

Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: chi3 on February 10, 2005, 10:42:00 PM
No, this guy definately doesn't get it. He has no concept of the fact that murder is wrong. Cheating on someone is not justifiable to kill. Whoever you are, you deeply need help. Please get some councelling before you are also in this position. I didn't know the man. To you he might have been wonderful. Unfortunately the end doesn't justify the means. If he didn't think he had done a horrible act, then why did he kill himself? People change, maybe he was someone completely different when you knew him. All the rest of the world can see is what he became.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2005, 12:20:00 AM
You folks need to be a little more understanding of this guy "I wanna be just like my hero Keith Wood".

He's been hanging around SCL for heaven's sake.

His words speak for themselves.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: BuzzKill on February 11, 2005, 11:07:00 AM
//You folks need to be a little more understanding of this guy "I wanna be just like my hero Keith Wood".

He's been hanging around SCL for heaven's sake.

His words speak for themselves. //


OK, sure, the kid can have some slack - but this kid does need a wake up call. I think he/she needed to "hear" everything said so far.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2005, 01:49:00 AM
Hey guys, I grew up in Kalispell with a Keith Woods that the same age as this individual. He shot both his parents and went to Deer Lodge for it after he came out of the juvenile program. (He was about 16 at the time of the murders.) Anyway, does anyone know if this is the same Keith?

Thanks a lot,
ex-neighbor
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2005, 08:52:00 PM
Here?s something to think about in this case.

The entry hole made by the bullet into Keith Wood?s head was on the right side of his head: Keith Wood was left handed.

According to experts in the field of physiology who deal with this type trauma, the shooting pattern was one of where the shooter was defending him self.
A person in a rage at such rang would have shot this person in the head and sense the victim was not armed (?) why didn?t he? Plus there were five bullets left in the magazine.
Also the victim was conscious thru out the ordeal, this we know because there was a doctor who arrived on the scene shortly after the shooting and talked with the victim till the ambulance came. It seems if Keith Wood was in a rage why didn?t finish the job?

Keith Wood was working in what most would term as a high pressure job with kids who could set you off very easily it would take some discipline and metal preparedness just to counter what may or may not happen. I would think this would be enough to bring out any personality problems that may have existed. This is strictly speculation on my part.  


Bongo Bonnie four days later was observed at 1:00 A.M. on Feb. 6 in plains heading west toward Thompson Falls, she was speeding in a 25 mph. zone doing approx: 42 mph. when officers tried to flag her over she refused to stop for them.
The chase eventually reached speeds up to 95 mph according to officers.
After she was finely stopped she produced a 32 caliber semi-auto pistol waving at officers and pointing at them.
Then she ran off into the woods by the park in Thompson Falls, the officers hear a shoot.
Bongo Bonnie is found with a flesh wound in her shoulder, hardly attempted suicide.
The officers run a check on the hand gun and it turns out to be stolen.

Bongo Bonnie has a past to: 1) She is or has been a cocaine user.
                                              2) She has had two of her children taken away from her.
                                               3) She was involved in a similar shooting situation in
                                                another state, only this time know one got killed.

Shawn Emmett chief of police of Plains Mt. who investigated the crime scene has stated she is a know liar. Not much creditability there.

Was the stolen hand gun at the crime scene in someone else?s possession?
Was it fired?
Or was it just used to scare someone? If it was used to scar someone then it looks like it worked.

Unfortunately the community will never know since the police did not swab the hands of all those present at the crime scene for powder residue.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on June 24, 2005, 10:58:00 AM
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On 2005-02-10 14:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am not sure who the real psychos are because from my experince of this forum, there are a lot of sadistic people out there. There was never any molesters or gangbangers or pedifiles or jerkoffs or psychotic homosexual necrophyliacs!!!! the jerkoffs are the ones in here bad mouthing everything that went on in SCLA. if you have no understanding of what happened or have never experienced SCLA yourself then shut the fuck up and stop trying to call this guy psycho. we all have our secrets. i encourage you to face your demons when you are having the hardest time of your life and see if you can live with all the bad shit you have done. take a look at yourself and know that somewhere deep down inside that you to could have done the same thing "

Haha, funniest shit I've read yet today. So, you are implying the psychos hang out here on this board, and don't apply for a job at Spring Creek?

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take a look at yourself and know that somewhere deep down inside that you to could have done the same thing

Okay....  :roll:
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2005, 02:22:00 PM
I went to Spring Creek Lodge and although what happened is sick and twisted, Mr. Keith was still a good man (just a jealous man) I spoke with him and he was a good friend to a lot of people...If anyone went to SCL and remembers NISSAN email me   [email protected]
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2005, 12:19:00 AM
Mr. Stromnes,
you should have at least checked the body of Mr. keith Wood to at least see where the bullet hole was in his head and watch hand he was. You would have then know then he had not shot himself. You are a discrgrace to your profession.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2005, 12:32:00 AM
how dare YOU, you didn't even know the man.  I personally knew him and had a great experience of him, yeah, what happened really wasn't out of possibility with him, but he was still a great man who helped many people my age, so please...stop letting all this kind of shit go on, if you have nothing really important enough to say on the subject, than just drop it
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2005, 01:18:00 AM
NO, how dare YOU!  :evil:
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2005, 06:06:00 PM
I know him all right and lot better then anyone here.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2005, 06:59:00 PM
I think you meant, knew him.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2005, 12:49:00 AM
hey who is this that typed this message, please post ure e-mail adress, i have lots of questions, he was a dear friend of mine
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2005, 02:15:00 PM
Ummm so you want my e-mail address, do you think I want to end up
on a cold slab to, as an alleged suicide.
Here is one thing, according to Mr. Stromnes; Keith Wood?s body was transported
to the crime lab in Missoula, in fact it never was.
do any of you think some of this information that was posted earlier in this forum, was
nothing more then disinformation to distract from what really happened? How about that
piece of information that came from the bar in Thompson Falls.
Or how about the armed robbery that occurred that night? Was this a distraction?
Or how about the alleged statements that Keith Wood must have had a bad back ground for assaults. These are statements that imply bad behave your,
and being a person out of control. Keith Wood did not have a criminal back ground, if that were true he could never have gotten into two different branches of the military, and the last one he was in he was going to be trained in the intelligences field the security check alone is extensive.
If you have questions go ahead ask, I doubt if I could answer them all, but I also must be careful.
I?m sure there are those who are wondering why I am doing this, I talked with Keith?s mother the day of the funeral service, have you ever looked into the eyes of a grieving mother who just wants to know what happen to her son and you can?t tell her what you know just because it may endanger her life, she will need a great deal of help in the days and months to come.
What do all of you know about this crime, about the people involved, where they come from? What is there back ground? Who are they connected with? Were there drugs involved? Or was it something Bonnie had told Keith about the drug business that got him killed? or maybe it was something else.
Bonnie was a cocaine and methamphetamine freak, who controls the methamphetamine and cocaine trafficking in the state of Montana? Answer M 13. Do you know who they are?
A little common sense go?s a long way.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Antigen on July 04, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
Well, if that's the case, wasn't it thoughtful of M 13 to take the guy out while he wasn't on campus? And any parent who's even thinking of sending a kid to SCL ought to take into consideration that their staff may well be up to their eyebrows in organized crime.

We must create an atmosphere where the crooked cop fears the honest cop, and not the other way around.
Frank Serpico

Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2005, 06:56:00 PM
Now that was one hell of a spin, but not realistic, why would you think the whole staff or even Keith Wood would be involved with organized crime, but you seem to like to imply it any way. He would have not been the first person who has found himself in a bad situation do to bad judgment and it was just too late by the time he realized it.

You seem to want to use this shooting to benefit your own ends and not the truth of the
matter concerning the shooting. A hardened heart is not a good thing.
I understand your concerns with these types of schools. I do not necessarily favor them either.
So Frank Serpico said that, I read his book many years ago but I think he had it wrong.
It?s not just the police who are corrupt but also the judges and lawyers, like what we have in our own county right here.

Corruption law enforcement covers up the crime then what is the end for all others?

can not maintain it?s self with out the courts involvement.
When
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Antigen on July 04, 2005, 09:40:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-07-04 15:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

why would you think the whole staff or even Keith Wood would be involved with organized crime, but you seem to like to imply it any way.


Well, as far as I can tell, ppl in the know have proposed only two explanations. One is that the guy was so unstable as to go off on a homicidal rampage, the other that he was the target of a gangland hit. But we all agree he was on staff at SCL.

How do these people go about qualifying their staff candidates? From all I've heard and read, they do it the same way they have done since Chuck Dederich's day. Completion of and fidelity to the Program is the one and only criteria for a staff position. I'm of the mind that that's a very, very shaky means of retting candidates for staff to care for anyone, never mind young kids who are to be kept incommunicado for a matter of months or more.

Do you disagree w/ that? Do you think they're doing a perfectly good job of qualifying staff for these programs?

What kind of humanism expresses its reluctance to sacrifice military casualties by devastating the civilian economy of its adversary for decades to come?  
Henry Kissinger

Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2005, 02:46:00 PM
The fact is your henchmen Stromnes who fabricated these stories in the beginning has been caught once again; his campaign of disinformation and distraction has not worked; now more people know the truth about what really happened that night and Stromnes is exposed for what he really is. Maybe we should be checking on the connection between Stromnes and are local corrupt county officials and law enforcement. Stromnes seems to have a problem with his facts or his hearing.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2005, 03:36:00 PM
You can reach me at [email protected]
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2005, 09:56:00 PM
shoot did not have a record
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
i agree with the annonymous guy at the top of page three. all of you who speak of that school like sin-fest, ive got a word of two for ya...

you are all cowards, lowly weak spineless cowards with out repect of fear for that which u dont understand. mr. keith.. i knew him, i hated him i thought he was a jerk. but i still envy his standard of dicipline and respect the very power and honor he carried with in himself was more than any of you could ever amount to!

mr. keith was in vietnam at the age of twenty, and his actions are unexcusable, however i must say that all of you commit a crime just as terrible when you talk about him with out even having met him much less lived with him for two years!

HELL, idoubt any of u would be able to say any of this stuff to his face...

you are all fools who use the internet as a tool for your lowly need to feed your own pathetic self confidence! cowards and incompetents incaple of doing even half of what that man acheived!
Y'all ARENT WORTHY OF THE LOWEST PITS OF HELL!!!

the way mr. keith taught and educated hundreds of young men at spring creek was incredible, and few will ever rise to such meet such a challenge, and even less will achieve what he accomplished.
nomatter what he did mr keith was a good man,
a very good man, god bless his soul and the one he took... :flame:
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2005, 06:07:00 PM
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On 2005-08-04 14:27:00, Anonymous wrote:


"HELL, idoubt any of u would be able to say any of this stuff to his face... "


uh yeah, maybe that's because he'll be in prison.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2005, 06:12:00 PM
To late, didn't he blow his head off?
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2005, 08:13:00 PM
Man do you have your facts wrong Keith Wood was never in Vietnam, he was born in 1973, just a little late to have been thire. :lol:
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2005, 06:23:00 PM
Your a nut! :silly:
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2006, 01:22:00 PM
Keith was my step brother. and i can tell you that he did not kill himself. this was "something" gone bad and the investigation was pure incompetence. any info from those who new him would be appreciated. my family will fight this as long as we have to.
Title: Spring Creek Lodge Man Attempts Murder
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2006, 02:12:00 PM
I am Keiths step sister--what the hell do you know about his "childhood"? Please, inform me, so I can correct your feeble mind.