THE WORK IS FAR MORE THAN A SIMPLE WALK IN THE WOODS.
MANY COMPLICATED DIAGONSIS NEED HOSPITALIZATION...BUT OFTEN MANY DIAGNOSES ARE #1 INCORRECT OR #2 ASSISTED BY GETTING THE CHILD OUT OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT STIMULATES THIER PROBLEMS.
DO YOU HAVE A TROUBLED CHILD? HAVE YOU EVER STRUGGLED THROUGH THE SYSTEM WITH "PROFESSIONALS" WHO DON'T HAVE ANSWERS FOR YOUR PROBLEMS? HAS YOUR CHILD THREATENED SUICIDE? TORTURED PETS? BULLIED AND HARMED SIBLINGS? BEFORE YOU ARE TOO JUDGEMENTAL ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS, WALK A MILE...
MY CHILD'S LIFE WAS SAVED BY AN EMOTIONAL GROWTH PROGRAM. MY FAMILY WAS SAVED BECAUSE HE LEFT.
HE'S HOMENOW, WE ARE CLOSE, HE GIVES CREDIT TO THE SCHOOL FOR HELPING HIM. NO LOCAL PROFESSIONALS HELPED IN THE 12 YEARS WE WERE SEEKING ANSWERS. MY SON'S "WALK IN THE WOODS" WAS JUST WHAT HE NEEDED.
Q. I simply ask, why is PUNISHMENT the solution with regards to the narrow group of behaviors which encompass illegal drug use....?A.Pharmaceutical Business, both legal and illegal, run by the same people either way, money coming to the middle from both ends. Bush.
Bill Gallagher
On 2005-03-16 22:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I enrolled my daughter at Sagewalk 2 1/2 weeks ago for chronic depression/anxiety issues and recent academic failure. No drugs or alchohol problems and no defiance. Generally a good kid just struggling. I have been feeling uneasy about the more severe diagnosis of the typical kid and the restrictive enviorment. Where can I get more info...I am afraid for her at this point. What can I do now?"
A drug is neither moral nor immoral - it's a chemical compound. The compound itself is not a menace to society until a human being treats it as if consumption bestowed a temporary license to act like an asshole.
--Frank Zappa
On 2005-03-16 22:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I enrolled my daughter at Sagewalk 2 1/2 weeks ago for chronic depression/anxiety issues and recent academic failure. No drugs or alchohol problems and no defiance. Generally a good kid just struggling. I have been feeling uneasy about the more severe diagnosis of the typical kid and the restrictive enviorment. Where can I get more info...I am afraid for her at this point. What can I do now?"
Discipline: Facility seeking behavioral change through extraordinarily rigorous behavioral demands, some counseling or therapeutic content also available
"When did I realize it? Well, one day I was praying and suddenly realized I was talking to myself."
--God
"When did I realize it? Well, one day I was praying and suddenly realized I was talking to myself." God
Any Irishman who doubts the reality of selective enforcement ought to take just a moment to comtemplate the etymology of the term "paddy waggon".
--Antigen
The inspiration of the Bible depends on the ignorance of the person who reads it.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
There is no devil and no hell. Thy soul will be dead even sooner than thy body: fear therefore nothing any more.
--Freidrich Nietzsche, German philosopher
On 2005-03-16 22:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I enrolled my daughter at Sagewalk 2 1/2 weeks ago for chronic depression/anxiety issues and recent academic failure. No drugs or alchohol problems and no defiance. Generally a good kid just struggling. I have been feeling uneasy about the more severe diagnosis of the typical kid and the restrictive enviorment. Where can I get more info...I am afraid for her at this point. What can I do now?"
[1971 - 2001] the darkest chapter in Federal law enforcement history.
Committee on Government Reform
May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.
-- George Carlin
On 2005-04-21 13:56:00, Timoclea wrote:
"Yup, I guess if your son is afraid enough of going back that he'd rather die it just might motivate most kids to toe the line.
No damned wonder your kid is obeying you as if you had a loaded gun to his head. In effect, you do.
But in five to fifteen years when he's paying his own rent and and the cult-implanted false personality covering up his real one wears off and the PTSD kicks in, don't expect a lot of contact with him."
On 2005-06-28 00:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hi,
Thanks for all your information on sagewalk. I am a college student and my little brother is in the program right now and I want him out. Do you have any other information on it, and would you trust your kid to be in this program? I am weary of the entire thing and want my parents to pull him asap. He sends letters home about freezing at night and being hungry. He could very well be overdramatizing the situation, but nobody has spoken to him in person and it freaks me out. I also don't trust that the person who decided his progress and when he comes home is nothing more than a LCSW... which is basically a social worker. Let me know what you think.
thanks"
I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.
--Clarence Darrow
On 2005-07-20 11:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
Dr. Conner has done a lot more to protect parents than some of the people on this web site.
I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.
-- A Bit of Fry and Laurie
On 2005-07-20 12:09:00, Deborah wrote:
"
Dr Conner, Is that you?
If so, I've always wanted to ask you-
Why did you think that Skyline Journey deserved a 4-Star rating at your website after the murder (woops- death) of Ian August?
Do you think that their method of 'flusing out fakers' is effective or safe?
Do you know if Wardle is still using this method at his new program?
When you refer to programs like Skyline Journey, Catherine Freer, or any other where there has been a death, do you inform the consumer? Do you advise parents, in general, of the inherent dangers and the fact that 40 some kids have died in the wilderness?"
On 2005-07-21 13:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Don't know why you people are getting all worked up about Sagewalk and Brat Camp. The stuff that goes on there are no worse than what goes on during Rush Week at Frat Row or Army Boot Camp. Chill out."
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark. The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
--Plato
On 2005-07-20 21:04:00, ColleenMA wrote:
I have never posted on this forum before, but have done hundreds of hours of research etc on Sagewalk and have kept what I found private.
Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
--Denis Diderot, French encyclopedist
On 2005-07-21 14:00:00, Antigen wrote:
"Quote
On 2005-07-20 21:04:00, ColleenMA wrote:
I have never posted on this forum before, but have done hundreds of hours of research etc on Sagewalk and have kept what I found private.
"
On 2005-07-21 14:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I attended Sagewalk in 2002. Portayal on BratCamp is fairly accurate IMO."
Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause.
--George Washington, Revolutionary War General and U.S. President
It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him.
--Arthur C. Clarke, author
When elephants ? ght, it is the grass that suffers.
Kikuyu proverb
On 2005-07-21 18:34:00, Antigen wrote:
"But they're not doing that in the tv version. In the first couple of days, Frank got a few big rocks. Now they're pretty much cussing like sailors w/o any recourse. What would normally happen if a kid kept saying "this sucks"?When elephants ? ght, it is the grass that suffers.
Kikuyu proverb
"
On 2005-07-21 18:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yea, having to carry those rocks around really worked. One night really sucked, we hiked from basecamp uphill to another campsite about 5 miles away or so. After we made it to the new camp, the leaders *then* told us that we forgot our "whites" (I forgot what we called the bigger white jugs of water) back at base camp. So we had to hike back down at about 10pm, then hike back up the hill with the full "whites". I was so exhausted half way back up the hill that I let loose a cuss storm. Since I was about 30 days or so into my program, the counselors were not pleased. I added about 30 lbs onto my 115 pound frame for the next 24 hours. Not fun."
Isn't this where one of the folks who killed Aaron Bacon ended up? Can't remember his name off the top of my head.