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The Troubled Teen Industry / Hidden Lake Academy
« on: February 18, 2005, 03:27:00 PM »
I did some research...and found that the last time the Health Dept did their inspection on the kitchen, the grade was a 97. That was 5 months ago. Inspections are required and are done by the Health Dept. approximately every 3-6 months, on a random basis. This has been the case ever since I lived there.(The mandatory random inspections). Id have to say that 97 is a pretty good grade(A+).

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Hidden Lake Academy
« on: February 17, 2005, 08:33:00 AM »
I have answered all the questions you guys have posed..which one didnt I answer? and I never said I was an authority...but neither are you...I am sharing MY side of my view of the school....you just dont like what Im saying. What do you want me to share about my experiences? ask me a specific question..and I will try to answer it. Specifically, I was associated with the school from its inception. My ex has been there over 10 years. I know Dr. B personally. I was neighbors with Greg Lindsey, Mike Witherspoon, John Semley, Meredith Burns, and Lee Parham. My ex mother and father in law worked at the school for 6 yrs. I lived on campus in a house by the townhouses for 4 years. My kids sledded with the students down the big hill when it snowed. I participated in the bonfires. I watched the plays, I ate in the cafeteria, I spent almost every thanksgiving dinner with the students in the cafeteria, I fished in the lake, played in the stream, watched most of the buildings being built. When the ice storm shut down the electricity for 5 days in 2000, my husband spent 18 hrs a day helping to get generators set up, gas from town, kitchen up and running, getting all the kids in the dorms with fireplaces. What i know about the school is from a resident point of view. NO I dont know that much about specific counselors or which ones were good and which werent bad, but I know about some that were fired and some admin people fired like Rudy and Jill and Dean and Laura Lynn. If I cant answer specific detailed questions it is because I cant remember very detail from 4-10 years ago, but I am sharing what I do remember. What I see here though is when I am posting about positive experiences that I saw at the school, you people think I have an agenda. What I am sharing is what I saw good at the school. I never saw or heard about kids being abused, or malnourished, or neglected. Its like you cant imagine anything good about the school. Ask me a specific question and I will try to answer. I dont see where I havent answered anything to the best of my ability.

OH and by the way, The reason I know some of the info you people are saying on here is old, is because the kids havent eaten cheese sandwiches on restriction for over 3 years. But you make it sound as if its still going on, and its not. So think not only about MY credibility, but your own as well.
[ This Message was edited by: SHH on 2005-02-17 05:35 ]

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Hidden Lake Academy
« on: February 17, 2005, 06:46:00 AM »
Look, I really dont care what you think is credible or not, and I have been posting on various boards for over 8 years, so Im not looking for "acceptance". The reason I posted here was to give MY side of experience at HLA. Like I said..I LIVED there..it was my home for 4 years, from 1997-to Feb of 2001. All I am sharing is my view of what I saw at the school. You guys are just upset that I can come up with positive things about the school. I am posting my opinion of things, just like you guys are...and youre slamming me for it. The only "offensive" thing I posted was that some of you are exaggerating things youve either experienced or heard through the grapevine. Especially the "toxic" thing about the lake. That lake is fed by a stream that comes from inside the national forest. The school is surrounded on 3 sides by it. There is nothing toxic about it. I have eaten probably 30 fish out of there as have my husband and kids. If YOU guys want credibility, look at your own posts and think about what is true and what is heresay. My opinion of the school is only from the time frame of when I was there. I am not saying ALL of this on here is lies or anything, but since I KNOW some of it be, you guys dont have much credibility with ME either....alls fair in....etc etc...

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Hidden Lake Academy
« on: February 15, 2005, 05:17:00 PM »
You people really need to chill out LOL...

Anyway, I have a question to pose to you. How old is the information you are posting here about the school? Do you know about changes made over the past 5 or 6 years? I do. Do you know about staff who were fired? or staff who were hired? Do you know specifically who supposedly abused the kids? Do you know what is going on at the school RIGHT NOW?  What I find unfair, in my opinion, is that some of the posters here are using old situations over 5 yrs old to state that the school is unfit and unsafe. Ever heard of "growing pains"? Ever heard of improving a program? Maybe they already have addressed whatever concerns you guys might have had in the past. Maybe whatever was going wrong has been fixed. Wouldnt that be enough for you guys? Or would you rather slander the whole school and its employees based on old policies, disgruntled ex employees, and exagerations? I stand by my PERSONAL experiences at the school. It was my home after all.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Hidden Lake Academy
« on: February 15, 2005, 12:46:00 PM »
My mother in law was not fired, she moved back to her home state. And she switched her job description from the kitchen to another department several years before she quit. As far as restriction diets, the kids eat what the other kids are eating in the food line, and have been for several years. And I have a teenage boy myself, who is overweight, and if he ate that many calories in one day he would gain even more weight. I am FULLY aware of dietary needs, I have 2 children currently and raised 2 others. If your son was sick, I am sorry for that, but I doubt it was due to the cheese sandwiches and soup. Alot of the information you people are posting and reading on here are old practices AND exagerations. Why dont you find some people who post about the good things that have come about with the kids? Like some of the ones I met who came out of the program with a new respect for themselves and others and who went onto ivy league schools? You are judging an ENTIRE program based on employees who were fired for not behaving appropriately and a few bad experiences, and that my dear, is unfair.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Hidden Lake Academy
« on: February 15, 2005, 12:40:00 AM »
a direct answer to your specific question posted above...I had never heard of a child being on restriction for months...thats ridiculous...the longest restriction I heard was a week or two. And it wasnt only cheese sandwiches. And by the way, what kid eats more than 2 boxes of cereal for breakfast? a week of cereal, fruit, sandwiches and juice and water wont kill anybody. And they do have a nutrionally balanced menu now. Ive personally eaten at the school probably more than 50 times and thought it was fine. It was my mother in laws cooking for the first few years! LOL

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Hidden Lake Academy
« on: February 14, 2005, 09:01:00 PM »
My access was that I lived there, on campus...ate at the cafeteria sometimes...my ex mother in law was one of the first cooks there so I knew all about the menus. I participated in the bonfire at halloween, watched the plays, sledded with my children and the students down the big hill when it snowed, my children played in the stream by the 2 fields and the little bridge. I worked parttime printing progress reports for the teachers..thats how I had access. I was a spouse for 7 years and a parttime employee for a year. My eyes werent closed, I knew almost every bad thing that happened. And knew about almost every person fired for not behaving in a manner appropriate. Yes there are bad apples but you cant judge the ENTIRE school and staff because of that. Its an unfair generalization And by the way, I caught and ATE the fish that swam in the lake, so it couldnt have been THAT toxic! LMAO be careful about rumors..they tend to get weirder the more they get passed down :smile:

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Hidden Lake Academy
« on: February 13, 2005, 11:02:00 AM »
I was a spouse of one of the employees there, and who is still there. I lived on the campus for 4 years. I spent 7 years total visiting the campus. There were bad employees fired for not behaving properly and being out of line. There were bad situations every now and then. But I also witnessed kids making up stuff about counselors that I knew were lies personally to try to get out of the school. Most of the kids were good kids, but wanted attention from their parents and instead got shipped away to a boarding school by their rich parents who didnt want to deal with them. Some of the kids were not so good. But nevertheless, most of the employees there that I knew, really wanted to do good and help the kids grow and mature. I personally was a witness to the school for 7 years and yes they are licensed, and accredited by several organizations now. As with any school, just like my old high school, there are bad apples, and bad things that happen. But overall, I never saw abuse, or harassment, or neglect. They werent even allowed to restrain the kids if they ran away off campus. They were only allowed to follow them in a car or walk behind them and try to talk them out of it. Then they were required to call the sheriff once the kid went onto the main road. Be careful judging a whole school because of former employees being less than professional. That is why they are FORMER employees! And personally I think the campus is a very pretty place, you should have seen it before the improvements! I lived on the campus for 4 yrs and thought it was always clean and pretty.

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