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An open discussion about the troubled parent industry

On 2003-09-11 16:35:00, not a fuckhead wrote:

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On 2003-09-11 13:45:00, Powerful Attitude wrote:



"Thanks to yOu. My wife has decided that I am one of you and is divorcing me because of you pathetic motherfuckers. You tell me I have problems.  You wallow in your own shit making excuses so you don't have to take responsability for YOURSELVES. I CALL THAT BEING A FUCKING PUSY. To my much despise that I have for you already, I get to hear her call me psycho from Straight, Controller, I restrained her, I'm an Addict. You fucking weak bastards need to mind to your own affairs and leave the ones that stand alone, alone. I will hate ya'll forever like I always have. You are no better than the group, you are the fucking group, the cult, the one's that have separated my wife and I. Is that not what the seed and straight did? Fuckers. Keep crying and I will keep bashing your cultic fucking brains in. Ya'll have brain washed my wife, She wants nothing to do with me as she yells straight driving away in another mans car with my children, surely, I pray for you to pay the consequences of your actions, surely you are the weak and for me the despised. Ya'll definitely are the Sick. Cry, Cry, Cry. You fucking make me sick. Talk to some others about being a skitz, surely you must pay. Pay the price pound for pound. Can you assholes bring me back my children and wife? I mean you have done such a great job. The one with 12 years, you?re a goddamn pro. You fucking bitch, and the rest of you may die. Feel Free. ANYTIME, DIE. Bring it on you fucking bastards; I'm ready this time. I hate. Jenn if you reply I will chomp and devour and spit you out like the rest. Bring it on FUCK HEADS. :rofl:







P.A.



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You need professional help, you are mentally unstable. If I was your wife, I'd leave you too. You probablly scare the hell out of her. You seriously scare me and I'm in cyberspace. Get a good psychiatrist!"

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On 2003-08-31 13:23:00, Antigen wrote:

"I've said it before and I'll say it again (and again and again and again till it gets so monotonous that I set up a bot to do it automatically)



You idiots are falling for a false imperative. You can't see the forest for the trees. The triffling little spat between PURE and WWASP is nothing more than a tempest in a tea-pot. It would not be the least bit out of character or habit for WWASP to have set up PURE themselves for the sole purpose of drawing attention away from more seirous, well founded and, therefore, more threatening complaints against them.



Mind you, I don't have any firsthand information, such as individuals involved or documentation. But then, I don't have any such evidence to prove that the sun rose on schedule in China this morning. Never the less, I know that it did.



See, I've seen this song and dance before, many times over the last 30 years. First they threw Art Barker to the wolves and went on to create a kinder, gentler Seed under the corporate name Straight, Inc. Then it was Miller Newton's turn. One after another after another scapegoats have gone to slaugher in this manner, while the program goes on, virtually unchanged, except that their legal teams get meaner and sneakier, their marketing more polished and their bank accounts ever larger.



I've seen this play so many times and from so many different angles it's just amazing to me to see people still fall for it. First I played the role of a younger sibling, looking on, playing my part. Then I got to be a client. Then I got to be the adult child defector from a Program family. Now, as the mother of a most headstrong, bodacious and bombastic 19yo blond, I finally get to watch you fools on stage from the pov of the audience and watch you dance to the same tired old tune that I started to see through by the time I was about 10.



You're pathetic! You guys don't even know what kind of fire you're playing with or how you're being played for fools!



Wise the hell up. Step back, take a broader look at the situation than your own, narrow and self limited experience and start acting like responsible grown ups, puh-lease!.

Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.

--Carl Schurz, German-born U.S. general and U.S. senator

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Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen

American drug war P.O.W.

   10/80 - 10/82

Straight South (Sarasota, FL)

Anonymity Anonymous"

ditto except mine is a 12yo.
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On 2003-08-30 23:18:00, MelissaR wrote:

"Carey is just a meddlin' bitch. Enough said. She's a two-timin, lying through her teeth schoundrel, and it's people like her and Sue that are getting in the way of my conquest. Is is of great inportance to me to do whatever I can to keep other kids from experiencing the hell I did in the WWASP programs. I have never had such a conviction in my life. My support for this cause is better than my faith in my religion. I think about it every day, I try to do something to help every day, it's like those die hard mormons. I have such a committment within myself it's incredibly important to make a difference. "

I read this and I think BRAINLESS BOVINE who has no idea how to direct her anger, or child being coached by a 'not very bright' adult. Your conquest huh? Could you sound any more selfish, ignorant and arrogant? Carey is after the same goal as you! Carey also sounds more level headed and intelligent than a majority of the rest of you in my opinion. Always has.

Oh Melissa,
Nice accent btw.   ::ftard::

On 2003-05-20 20:26:00, Tampa survivor wrote:

"HA...I knew she knew who the anons are.  Oh to read the ip log....

Help on way mrs Ginger.  You have helped me more than a shitload of shrink bucks did.

Bill"

DOE!!!!!!

It is pretty tacky to plug your web-site when you don't give mention of this site on yours, yet you are a regular user here. Everyone here has a pretty good guess as to who this is, but regardless... It's just lame guys. Bad sportsmanship. ::blushing::

Clarification,

At the extreme they teach that you must establish a "personal relationship" with God.

Not a person.


On 2003-04-22 12:33:00, ClayL wrote:

"Richard, while I'm not going to defend our reigious fruitcakes I have to say, I have a personal relationship with my wife and she doesn't have total control of my thoughts."

Free thinking is the rejection of religious influence in human life.  You merely have to realize that priests, ministers and other religious con artists give no justification for their views, which are typically manipulative and degrading.  Some may also reject all superstitious or supernatural beliefs, while others believe there may be something supernatural out there. All  should reject claims that we must believe in, appease, or establish a "relationship" with such forces in order to be "saved" or benefited in some way. We see that humans are vulnerable to these beliefs, and believe it is up to us to speak out against them. Thus ?free thinking? can be thought of as living without superstitious attitudes and behaviors.  ,
But isn't it arrogant to think that we are so great that we can do it all without God?
Yes, it is. Would that make you feel guilty for thinking that way? Why? Did your minister tell you it's bad to be arrogant? Is there a difference between a little arrogance (maybe really only confidence) and more extreme, self-centered arrogance? Must we always be at one extreme to avoid the opposite extreme? A little arrogance won't hurt you. Try it.
 You can do your life all by yourself, with a little help from your friends.
 Religion provides simple answers to questions great and small (usually the same simple answer). Free thought promotes Wonder instead. We should accept the lack of absolute purpose in living and see our responsibility as humans to search for the answers to all our questions, and create our own moral principles (for example, in the US Constitution.)
 These principles are based on what we have left without gods; instincts and environment. Nature and nurture. Contrary to religious teaching, humans are not born bad. We are born complex. We do have selfish impulses, but we also want approval and acceptance from parents and others around us. The complex (and somewhat unknown) interactions between our impulses and our upbringing are what guides our morality, not original sin and covenants.
 Nor do we need to be purified, cleansed, or in any way made perfect. We do not need to apologize for who we are or for the things we've done. Bad deeds can only be atoned for by trying our best to make up for them; no amount of apologizing to holy ghosts ought to make us feel any better.
 Psychologists overwhelmingly reject religious models of human morality, and with good reason.  
Geneticists overwhelmingly reject biblical creation theories. They find that we have a strong family relationship with primates, particularly the chimpanzee. The fact that our genes are almost identical with the chimps is confirmed by numerous labs using far more reliable tests than even a creationist judge would need to conclusively prove a paternity case in court.
 For those who accept evolution: Is it likely that a creator would use an evolutionary process to create humans over hundreds of millions of years, and then fawn over us as his little hatchlings, only to sternly judge us based on how much we worship him?
 When ministers make claims like these, and then add that it's sinful even to doubt these claims, it's your responsibility to stand up for yourself and doubt them anyway. Can anyone convince you of nonsense just by telling you your afterlife depends on you believing it?
 Religions abuse your mind and your heart. You must have the courage to doubt yours.