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Feed Your Head / Alleged abuse at Ont. institution at centre of $1B lawsuit
« on: September 15, 2013, 02:45:45 PM »

Alleged abuse at Ont. institution at centre of $1B lawsuit

The Canadian Press Posted: Sep 15, 2013 12:46 PM ET Last Updated: Sep 15, 2013 12:46 PM ET
Patricia Seth, left, and Marie Slark, former Huronia Regional Centre residents and plaintiffs in the class action proceeding against the Ontario government, are shown in Toronto on Wednesday, Sept. 11, 2013.

Patricia Seth, left, and Marie Slark, former Huronia Regional Centre residents and plaintiffs in the class action proceeding against the Ontario government, are shown in Toronto on Wednesday, Sept. 11, 2013. (Galit Rodan/Canadian Press)
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    Class action: Ontario's developmentally challenged go to court   
    Alleged abuse of disabled at Ont. institution   
    Lawsuit by former Huronia residents will proceed

Humiliation and abuse were doled out almost daily at an Ontario institution for the developmentally disabled, punishment for infractions as minor as speaking out of turn, former residents allege in a class-action lawsuit against the provincial government.

"If we got caught talking, we had to get up with our pants down and walk around the play room with our pants down," recalled Marie Slark, 59, who spent nine years of her childhood at the Huronia Regional Centre.

In other instances, children whose behaviour earned them a "black mark" were kicked and struck by their peers at staff's insistence, she and another plaintiff, Patricia Seth, said in an interview.

Slark, Seth and thousands of other former residents are alleging systemic neglect and abuse at the Orillia, Ont., facility, which the province operated for 133 years. Some say they were forced to work in the fields for no money.

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Feed Your Head / Re: What in the world..
« on: September 15, 2013, 02:42:08 PM »
Haven't seen a SMF forum before.  It looked like all the forums on phpBB switched to vB a couple years ago.  The rest were all holdouts or something.

News Items / Fort Augustus Abbey School, Scotland
« on: September 02, 2013, 04:55:30 PM » ... s-23936046

Fort Augustus Abbey abuse claims: Man, 80, arrested

Fort Augustus Abbey Police are investigating reports of historical abuse at Fort Augustus Abbey school

A man has been charged in connection with a police investigation into alleged abuse at a former Catholic boarding school in the Highlands.

Police Scotland said an 80 year old, from the east Highland area, has been charged in relation to reports of historic physical and sexual abuse at Fort Augustus Abbey school.

A report has been sent to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service.

The school, which has now closed, was run by the Benedictine order of monks.

The police investigation into allegations of abuse at Fort Augustus Abbey school began in March.

Last month, Police Scotland said it had identified 20 possible victims. Officers have been liaising with other police forces elsewhere in the UK and abroad in connection with the allegations.

A BBC Scotland investigation into claims of abuse at the school, and at its preparatory school, Carlekemp in East Lothian, was broadcast in July.

Feed Your Head / Re: Great news from Sweden
« on: September 02, 2013, 01:42:50 AM »
Sounds more like a turf war could break out in those schools.

News Items / Dozier School for Boys, (Marianna, Florida)
« on: September 02, 2013, 01:36:55 AM »

Bodies exhumed at Florida Dozier boys' institution

Researchers in the US state of Florida have begun work to exhume the remains of dozens of boys from the site of a controversial reform institution.

The researchers are hoping to identify those buried at the Dozier School for Boys - which closed in 2011.

Former students have told of beatings and abuse at the institution - located in the north-western Florida town of Marianna - in the 1950s and 1960s.

Nearly 100 children died while at the school, according to official records.

Many died as a result of a fire in 1914 and the 1918 flu epidemic.

"In these historic cases, it's really about having an accurate record and finding out what happened and knowing the truth about what happened,'' Erin Kimmerle, the forensic anthropologist leading the excavation, told the Associated Press news agency.

The Dozier School was once of the largest institutions for young offenders in the US.

A group of former students, the "White House Boys", called for an investigation into the graves five years ago.

A spokesman for the group, Robert Straley, said he believed more victims are buried at an undiscovered site in nearby woods.

"I think that there are at least 100 more bodies up there,'' he told AP.

In 2010, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement said it could not substantiate or refute claims that boys died at the hands of staff.

Hey when your pants hang low because of the cheese pulled off from the head weighs them down so much, what can you do but smile?

CBC News

Ear experiments done on kids at Kenora residential school

14 different drugs tried on children with ear infections, school nurse's report shows

 By Jody Porter, CBC News
Posted: Aug 8, 2013 11:40 AM ET
Last Updated: Aug 8, 2013 7:53 PM ET

A local doctor and a school nurse experimented with 14 different drugs to treat "ear troubles" in children at Cecilia Jeffrey Indian Residential School in Kenora, according to a 1954 report obtained by CBC News.

The report, from the Indian and Northern Health Services archive, said that some of the children being treated became deaf.

School nurse Kathleen Stewart wrote the report, entitled "Record of Ear Treatments and Investigation."

"The most conspicuous evidence of ear trouble at Cecilia Jeffrey School has been the offensive odour of the children's breath, discharging ears, lack of sustained attention, poor enunciation when speaking and loud talking," she wrote.
Students at the Cecilia Jeffrey Indian Residential School in Kenora were the subject of nutritional experiments and exposed to experimental treatments for ear infections. Some became deaf. Students at the Cecilia Jeffrey Indian Residential School in Kenora were the subject of nutritional experiments and exposed to experimental treatments for ear infections. Some became deaf. (The Presbyterian Church in Canada Archives)

Stewart said the children were taught to irrigate their own ears, or the ears of younger children, with hot water. A doctor visited the school on a weekly basis looking out for ear infections "and the recommended medicine was used when possible," Stewart wrote.
Damaged ear drums

Former student Richard Green said he remembers the nose drops used to treat what Stewart described as "mouth breathing."

"All these things … we had nose drops, there were some different kinds of pills that we took for nutrition, I don't know what they were, I still don't know what they are," Green said.

    INTERACTIVE: Learn more about the history of Cecilia Jeffrey residential school

In a followup report, entitled "Experimentation and Treatment of Ear Disease Among 165 Pupils," Stewart noted three of the children "were almost deaf with no ear drums, six had [hearing in] one ear gone."

Some of the case files reported the children to be in better health after having had a holiday at home. A handwritten note at the bottom of one file read: "returned to school well, but obviously deaf."
'Lacklustre' government response

"The new information that's coming out now, it's been very troubling for the students who went there," Green added. "It's hard to process."

Green said it's especially frustrating since many former students have already completed their hearings as part of the residential school settlement agreement. He said the legal process placed an unfair burden on survivors to recall what happened when they were children, while the government withheld documents like the ones obtained by CBC News.

"People are done their healing, now new information comes out, you don't know what to do with it," Green said. "That aggravates a lot of things."

A University of Guelph food historian recently highlighted the nutritional experiments at residential schools, including Cecilia Jeffrey in Kenora. In an interview with CBC, Ian Mosby said doctors and scientists around the world regularly used vulnerable populations and took a race-based approach to their work in the 1950s.

    LISTEN: An interview with Ian Mosby

But other countries have unconditionally apologized and fully disclosed the details of those experiments, Mosby said.

"The response of the Canadian government in the case of the experiments conducted in Canada has been more lacklustre," he said. "It doesn't seem like there is a thorough attempt to get to the bottom of what was happening during this period and whether these were the only experiments."
Running out of time

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada had to go to court to gain access to more of the 3.5 million documents related to residential schools. Researchers with the commission began combing through them this week.

Murray Sinclair, the commission's chair, has said he is concerned there might not be enough time to get all the work done by June 2014, when the TRC's mandate is supposed to be complete.

Former student Green said survivors are also running out of time to come to terms with their painful history.

The 65-year-old's voice still breaks when he thinks about his younger siblings, whose residential school experiences he witnessed.

"The stuff you're seeing, you witnessed … I think it was just terror," he said. "We were terrified."

Survivors of Cecilia Jeffrey Indian Residential School will gather for a commemorative event on Aug.14 in Kenora.

News Items / Truth & Reconciliation Cms'n: Indian Residential Schools
« on: August 22, 2013, 10:17:16 PM »
CBC has been posting some good articles in the last month or two on new revelations coming from these schools.

CBC News

Hungry aboriginal people used in bureaucrats' experiments

Food historian published details of nutritional experiments that began in the 1940s

The Canadian government says it's appalled to hear hungry aboriginal children and adults may have been used as unwitting subjects in nutritional experiments by federal bureaucrats.

Recently published research by food historian Ian Mosby has revealed details about one of the least-known but perhaps most disturbing aspects of government policy toward aboriginal people immediately after the Second World War.

"It was experiments being conducted on malnourished aboriginal people," Mosby, a post-doctoral fellow in history at the University of Guelph, told CBC's As It Happens program on Tuesday.

    AS IT HAPPENS: Hear the interview with Ian Mosby

"It started with research trips in northern Manitoba where they found, you know, widespread hunger, if not starvation, among certain members of the community. And one of their immediate responses was to design a controlled experiment on the effectiveness of vitamin supplementation on this population."

Mosby also found that plans were developed for research on aboriginal children in residential schools in British Columbia, Ontario, Nova Scotia and Alberta.

"If this is story is true, this is abhorrent and completely unacceptable," a spokesperson for Aboriginal Affairs Minister Bernard Valcourt stated in an email late Tuesday.

"When Prime Minister [Stephen] Harper made a historic apology to former students of Indian Residential Schools in 2008 on behalf of all Canadians, he recognized that this period had caused great harm and had no place in Canada."

The spokesperson added that the federal government "remains committed to a fair and lasting resolution to the legacy of the Indian Residential Schools."
Visited northern Manitoba reserves

Mosby — whose work at the University of Guelph focuses on the history of food in Canada — was researching the development of health policy when he ran across something strange.

"I started to find vague references to studies conducted on 'Indians' that piqued my interest and seemed potentially problematic, to say the least," he told The Canadian Press. "I went on a search to find out what was going on."

Government documents eventually revealed a long-standing, government-run experiment that came to span the entire country and involved at least 1,300 aboriginals, most of them children.

It began with a 1942 visit by government researchers to a number of remote reserve communities in northern Manitoba, including places such as The Pas and Norway House.

They found people who were hungry, beggared by a combination of the collapsing fur trade and declining government support. They also found a demoralized population marked by, in the words of the researchers, "shiftlessness, indolence, improvidence and inertia."

The researchers suggested those problems — "so long regarded as inherent or hereditary traits in the Indian race" — were in fact the results of malnutrition.

Instead of recommending an increase in support, the researchers decided that isolated, dependent, hungry people would be ideal subjects for tests on the effects of different diets.

"This is a period of scientific uncertainty around nutrition," said Mosby. "Vitamins and minerals had really only been discovered during the interwar period.

"In the 1940s, there were a lot of questions about what are human requirements for vitamins. Malnourished aboriginal people became viewed as possible means of testing these theories."
Some selected to receive vitamins

The first experiment began in 1942 on 300 Norway House Cree. Of that group, 125 were selected to receive vitamin supplements which were withheld from the rest.

At the time, researchers calculated the local people were living on less than 1,500 calories a day. Normal, healthy adults generally require at least 2,000.

"The research team was well aware that these vitamin supplements only addressed a small part of the problem," Mosby writes. "The experiment seems to have been driven, at least in part, by the nutrition experts' desire to test their theories on a ready-made 'laboratory' populated with already malnourished human experimental subjects."

The research spread. In 1947, plans were developed for research on about 1,000 hungry aboriginal children in six residential schools in Port Alberni, B.C., Kenora, Ont., Schubenacadie, N.S., and Lethbridge, Alta.

One school deliberately held milk rations for two years to less than half the recommended amount to get a 'baseline' reading for when the allowance was increased. At another, children were divided into one group that received vitamin, iron and iodine supplements and one that didn't.

One school depressed levels of vitamin B1 to create another baseline before levels were boosted. A special enriched flour that couldn't legally be sold elsewhere in Canada under food adulteration laws was used on children at another school.

And, so that all the results could be properly measured, one school was allowed none of those supplements.

Many dental services were withdrawn from participating schools during that time. Gum health was an important measuring tool for scientists and they didn't want treatments on children's teeth distorting results.
Ethically dubious, says researcher

The experiments, repugnant today, would probably have been considered ethically dubious even at the time, said Mosby.

"I think they really did think they were helping people. Whether they thought they were helping the people that were actually involved in the studies, that's a different question."

He noted that rules for research on humans were just being formulated and adopted by the scientific community.

Little has been written about the nutritional experiments. A May 2000 article in the Anglican Journal about some of them was the only reference Mosby could find.

"I assumed that somebody would have written about an experiment conducted on aboriginal people during this period, and kept being surprised when I found more details and the scale of it. I was really, really surprised.

"It's an emotionally difficult topic to study."

Not much was learned from those hungry little bodies. A few papers were published — "they were not very helpful," Mosby said — and he couldn't find evidence that the Norway House research program was completed.

"They knew from the beginning that the real problem and the cause of malnutrition was underfunding. That was established before the studies even started and when the studies were completed that was still the problem."

Elan School / Re: Dr Gerald Davidson Was Jennifer's uncle?
« on: June 20, 2012, 09:04:47 PM »
Quote from: "Terry Kato"

Richard J. Herrnstein (May 20, 1930 – September 13, 1994) was an American researcher in animal learning in the Skinnerian tradition. He was one of the founders of quantitative analysis of behavior.
His major research finding as an experimental psychologist is called "matching law" -- the tendency of animals to allocate their choices in direct proportion to the rewards they provide. To illustrate the phenomenon, imagine that there are two sources of reward, one of which is twice as rich as the other. Herrnstein found in his research that animals often chose at twice the frequency the alternative that was seemingly twice as valuable. This is known as "matching," both in quantitative analysis of behavior and mathematical psychology". He also developed melioration theory with William Vaughan, Jr.
He was the Edgar Pierce Professor of psychology at Harvard University and worked with B. F. Skinner in the Harvard pigeon lab, where he did research on choice behavior and behavioral economics. In 1965, and with Edwin Boring, Herrnstein authored 'A Source Book in the History of Psychology'.

The Society for the Quantitative Analyses of Behavior was founded in 1978 by Michael Lamport Commons and John Anthony Nevin. The first president was Richard J. Herrnstein. In the beginning it was called the Harvard Symposium on Quantitative Analysis of Behavior (HSQAB). This society meets once a year to discuss various topic in quantitative analysis of behavior including but not limited to: behavioral economics, behavioral momentum, Connectionist systems or neural networks, hyperbolic discounting, foraging, errorless learning, learning and the Rescorla-Wagner model, matching law, Melioration, scalar expectancy, signal detection and stimulus control, connectionism or Neural Networks. Mathematical models and data are presented and discussed. The field is a branch of mathematical psychology. Some papers resulting from the symposium are published as a special issue of the journal Behavioural Processes

In 1971 Richard Herrnstein wrote a long article on intelligence tests in The Atlantic for a general readership. Undecided on the issues of race and intelligence, he discussed instead score differences between social classes. Like Jensen he took a firmly hereditarian point of view. He also commented that the policy of equal opportunity would result in making social classes more rigid, separated by biological differences, resulting in a downward trend in average intelligence that would conflict with the growing needs of a technological society.[70]

Wikipedia: History of the Race & Intelligence Controversy

Tacitus' Realm / Re: Q. Is the Koran holy?
« on: May 06, 2012, 10:50:23 AM »
Many religions and empires form merely to spread technological development.  See: Napoleonic Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Merovingian Empire, American Empire, Ottoman Empire, Dutch Empire, Soviet Russia, Synanon (failed).

Many religions and empires form merely to facilitate technological development internally.  See: French Empire, Early British Empire (1500-1700), Portuguese Empire, Spanish Empire, Scandinavian Empire, Communist China.

Many insular religions and nations form as a simple means of growth.  See: Mormonism, Jonestown (failed), Mongol Empire, Russian Empire.

Hyde Schools / Re: Where's that "movement of concerned Americans?"
« on: April 14, 2012, 03:47:06 PM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
I'm not marching on Washington or protesting anyone--it's just  what I choose to believe.

How? Ya got me. But, I do believe we have the ability.

as far as who. Follow the money. Who made the most? Them

Who is them though?

Hyde Schools / Re: Where's that "movement of concerned Americans?"
« on: April 13, 2012, 10:46:46 PM »
Yeah, but you also have to consider the other diseases that transmit the same way and were at one point, just as deadly - how were they created?  And why would someone go about creating it?  It's great that you can, in your head, fit excuses and what-ifs into the theory.  But who are the parties that concocted this disease to release it and wreak such havoc?

Hyde Schools / Re: Where's that "movement of concerned Americans?"
« on: April 13, 2012, 08:43:58 PM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
Quote from: "Xelebes"
Well, let's hold back on the AIDS as a manufactured virus.  In some ways it is (shaming those who have it for having lived shameful lives) but in the most key sense, it is not (developed in labs to be released and wreak havoc on minorities.)
It wasn't created to wreak havoc on anyone. It was created to make money. Trillions of dollars so far with no end in sight.

There was no shame intended. If people feel shame, that's in their own mind. AIDS crossed into every demographic. It didn't discriminate.

All that "shameful lives" crap was promoted by assholes with agendas, and no one with a brain ever really bought into it

Created to make money?  Ehhhhh. . . I'm going to reserve expressing judgments there as much as I can.

Thought Reform / Re: The Canadian Vector
« on: April 13, 2012, 08:38:26 PM »
I will also note that Frameworks seems to be heavy in the "Calgary School".  This election is big.  If the Wildrose is shaken off, hopefully a more leftward (cannot call it left-wing) Tories and the dipping into Edmonton's pool will imperil the influence that Frameworks has.

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