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"When Phil died in the ring"  

Ive stood by and watched the bullshit and constant lies for quite some time, but this one tops them all.
Phil didnt die in the ring, Phil died from an anurism which he was born with. A ticking time bomb. Coincidentally he was in the ring for a short time prior to his death. He was not placed in the ring against his will.
The state of Maine medical examiner performed an autopsy which confirmed the cause of death and the death certificate stated ANURISM. Nothing to do with physical abuse, a physical confrontation or otherwise.

This site is a farce. a few reasons why:
Posting anonomously
No regard for the truth
BIASED board owners/mods
The simple fact that its exsistance is of a negative motivation. And more

There are some really fucked up people here, but then again, theres some people who want others to simply THINK they are fucked up.

What a joke this place is. A stressful, negative unpleasant place to fabricate stories, say the most outrageous things you can think of, and piss and moan about a place you DESERVED to be for being the people you were, and in most cases, still ARE.

P. S.
Open ANY year book from ANY school, public or private, and the same "death, suicide, incarcerated..." stats will apply.
Elan isnt the source of the problems we all face after leaving, SOCIETY IS! deal with it.

If you feel bad about being in an allegedly abusive environment, GET HELP!, there are many many resources for help...THIS FUCKING FARCE WEBSITE (developed by a former, self proclaimed "abused person") IS NOT ADEQUATE FOR PROVIDING THE HELP YOU MIGHT NEED...nor is anyone here qualified to offer help.

P.S.S. Ginger, with your infinite wisdom and
knowledge, shouldnt this be an OBVIOUS OBSERVATION?
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This a repost not my views or knowledge

I worked at Eckerd for three years.  There are abusive acts committed by staff and children.  Anyone who says otherwise is misleading you.  We can all agree staff commit more abusive acts than children.  I witnessed a 6'1, 16 year old, 300 lb. boy, hit another child in the face with a broom.  The victim was no more than 150 lbs.  His face began to bleed.  Was this a justifiable reason for a restraint?  Yes, it was.  I did not restrain the aggressor because I would have done something I regretted.  The aggressor was the same child who popped open a camping knife blade during another restraint.  I made a split second decision to bend his wrist and remove it.  He did not enjoy it neither did I.  There were no injured parties.  I will not lie if you ask me, "Did you perform restraints that were not justified?"  There are very few restraints, form my experience, done correctly in a wilderness setting.  People don't take into account the child's size, strength, speed and athletic ability.  There was a case where I restrained a child for throwing a black kerosene kettle.   This guy was one hell of a wrestler and he ended up face down in the dirt.  There was another case where I planted a child on his rear and everyone heard  a loud thud.  To make a long story short he bit me in the restraint, I bled and had to stop the restraint.  I would have done the same thing if I were him.  There were young kids at Eckerd.  We had to use a basket hold restraint with them.  I actually had to kneel down on my knees due to my strength and size.  They would bang their head 20 times against my chest and they got a good laugh out of it.   They cried which was depressing to say the least.  I would also like to discuss the management issues in another segment.

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Nice points....guilty of a few.
Danny

Hey Bennison was honesty one of the Philosophies at Élan?

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Joe Ricci hated AA, I mean hated, you could not even mentioned the name. Nothing about Elan or the Daytop I was in even resembled AA. Ask anyone about that in the time frame I was there. I didn't even know AA existed until 1988.