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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight medical neglect stories???
« on: July 26, 2002, 11:35:00 PM »
I was wondering how many other people had serious problems which the program choose to ignore.  I remember an obovious schizophrenic in Atlanta named Todd, and I was misdiagnosed with cat scratch disease(very minor) when I actually had a tumor in my neck which was removed within 2 weeks of getting out of straight.  The specialist here in Tampa was dumbstruck that I had been misdiagnosed and wrongly treated for such a serious issue.  The Dr. I was taken to was a Dr. Beasely, with 2 sons in the program in ATL in 1982.  They started in St Pete, and the dad was a quack.  My surgeon said that ANY DR. should have immediately refered me to a specialist for surgery.  Did anyone else see this quack or any others?
Bill

[ This Message was edited by: tampa survivor on 2002-07-26 20:36 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 26, 2002, 11:21:00 PM »
To ANON re: Mark Short.
Yes, there was a short Short with Mark as a first name.  He was lean muscular and fits you ATL peoples description, and I have little doubt that we are knowing the same guy.
Bill

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 26, 2002, 11:03:00 PM »
I have had custody of my kids since I divorced 4 years ago.  My girl is 5, my boys 9 and 13.  I know what you mean...I never 7 stepped, I just drifted away.  My shame. My X-wife heard a touch, and as a nurse she was appalled, but I generally NEVER talked about it.  My son is struggling in a grand way, but I am trying to handle it differently than my folks did.  It sucks.  The allure of the "program" to parents is understandable.  I mentioned to him a little about the fact that I was sent away yesterday and today.  He knows something has rattled dad badly.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 26, 2002, 09:18:00 PM »
Marnie,
I cannot even begin to fathom the depths of your confusion about all of this.  I read ALL of your posts, and learned how at 11 you were sucked in and the hold was upon you for many years. We all lost so much.  The years 13-16 were stolen from me.  You had your entire teen life warped. I found this site about the same day you did. If you are anything like me, the rush of emotions, incidents long forgotten, faces without names is crushing you.  I felt the pain in your last post.  The regret.  Greg is right, we were all brainwashed.  On my higher phases I ratted, confronted, and righteously took misbehavers home to my house.  You led raps for us.  Had I not split and generally been up and down for 2 years, I could have been right there with you. When I began the program, I looked up to you and the other staffers.   I came close to stepping once, then blew it.
  I blame the bastard adults who "ran" the program for placing under-educated kid/victims in charge of the rest of us.
Now today Marnie, you and I have found a new group, as Greg indicated. He has had many years to soak it up.  I spent last night reading archives here about these girls up north where Satan Newton went next.  I cried, and I am not normally a teary guy. These posts are mind bending to me... and to any body else who has recently stumbled across them.
Let me know if I can do anything for you Marnie.  I am dazed and confused but feeling rather alone about all this now. My kids(custodial dad x 3) think I have an internet girlfriend, my mom wants to act like it never happened, and I think I know how you do feel with the past rushing forth.  
Good Luck to us all.
Bill

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 26, 2002, 02:40:00 PM »
Marnie,
Whats it like to read the above and see you remembered as a staffer?  Having worked through the program, then willingly join staff to lead interrogation raps which set people back,etc.  I ask this because I have just stumbled into this emotional roller coaster, and find myself drawn to reading the old posts, people far away in places 10 and 15 years after us continued to go through this.  It is hard not to get overwhelmed by all this.
Bill

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 26, 2002, 10:18:00 AM »
Mark Short...WOW...that took a minute.
Yeah, me in him were on 4th in St Pete, 1981.  He was a cool enough guy, we went on "permission", so forth.  Did he do ok?  I hope so.  I wonder why he went to Atlanta?
Anybody know?  How'd it turn out?
Bill

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Christmas at Straight Inc.
« on: July 26, 2002, 12:52:00 AM »
Marnie said it well with "very sad, very painful".  I was 3 weeks into the program,at the age of 13, living with a Wayne B. They only had one son and were quiet people. They really tried, got me presents and all. I was miserable. My family was fun and noisey, especially during X-mas.

I earned talk for a "present".  Thanks.

Next year,1981 i have not been able to remember specifically.  I may repost on that(probably sucked if i "don't remember") later.  

X-mas 1982 found me making second phase for Thanksgiving, as I had been tipped that my family was coming to visit me in exile in Atlanta beforehand. I quit misbehaving and made 2nd in a like 10 days.  Hell, I'd been there longer than jr.staffers. I knew HOW to do it.  I had a great weekend with them and got extra time off from group even only second phase.They left and I realized I would be stuck  for the 3rd X-mas and wouldn't see them again. Then I split.  GTG  See- ya assholes.  727 to TIA with a guiltstricken mother finally saying enough was enough.  I will never forget that last few hours in ATL when I had been split for 2 or 3 days and called them, and asked if it could all be over and I just want to come home for christmas.  I felt so terrified that Miller Newton would work his snakeoil on my dad again and get me dragged back in.  I cried to my mom and dad, outside a 7-11 somewhere on a cold december night in Atlanta, to let it stop.  They kept their word for the first time in 3 years.

Bill

[ This Message was edited by: tampa survivor on 2002-08-04 19:59 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 25, 2002, 10:13:00 PM »
Oh, I remember her raising hell in St pete back in the day.  She went on and up and I even stayed in her house one time when I was misbehavin in atlanta, but I never got to see her strip.  I heard she screwed up bigtime.  What ever happened?   She had a cute butt...Bill

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My mom just regrets everything about 1980-83.  She knows it was wrong, and she can't handle discussing it.  Dad was like 'denial man'...program saved your life, etc,etc.  Yeah right.  He wouldnt toelerate negative talk about straight, or my theory that i had NO drug problem.  For 20 years he maintained that shit.  3 days ago he called me, and told me he had been looking at this stuff.  Seems he had a bit of a conversion after seeing others stories.  Now my entire psyche has been turned on its ass, wondering about stuff I never wanted to think about. Thanks (I think) to dad.  Nevertheless, I am lucky to have parents who have proved that they are great since that time.  The cult grabs the fear in a parent and manipulates it.  I have a challenging 13 yo now, and I realize now how seductive  Newtons "pitch" must have been to my parents.  Panecea.  The return of your little boy.  Fucking usurious bastards.  I will see V.Miller in hell.  I wont be bringing any KY jelly for him either.
Bill

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 25, 2002, 09:31:00 PM »
I can say that the earlier mentioned Gwinnett county guys were like 22 and 25 or some crazy crap.  I was 15 when I got out.
Bill

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 25, 2002, 09:08:00 PM »
Yeah, that description sounds like me me.  I was in a severe funk as I had been busted down hard, then split, then caught.  By late October I decided it was time to go.  I am slowly getting the details straight in my mind...which split went with which phase, foster home...hell.  I made second phase again,FOS of course, while living with a Darren Chastain, great family, nice home in Symrna.  Being a Tampa kid I stayed with them after making second.  Well, right before X-mas, I took a letter out to be mailed, said goodbye to Darrens cute as a bug little sister, and scooted through the woods.
So yes, that was probably me.  I thought a lot.  I nearly lost my mind, but by that time I was fully internalizing, not fighting anymore.  I will never forget ruth-Ann and Satan Newton threatening to send me to cincinatti if I didn't get my crap together. They taunted me in group about my dislike for cold weather, and lied about my parents supporting a transfer to Cinci!! Arrogant shits...I talked my parents into giving it a shot and never stepped foot in either St pete or ATL program again.
You could also be remembering a Bobby Ruggles, who was also from Florida....hard case that went a million miles away for days at a time, then fought like a monster to let it out.  He got busted from 5th about the same time.  He had straighter hair than I.  I did what it took to get 2nd and get the fuck out....I was NOT DOING a THIRD X-mas at that place.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Atlanta early days
« on: July 25, 2002, 11:55:00 AM »
I thought i would post a new thread, and let Marnie have hers back for now....
I was transplanted to ATL for being a 14 yo with a mind in the St Pete program. Newtons Nazi's couldn't have that as people were starting to poke around and ask questions about the program.  I remember fondly many people from my exile.  I just didn't know I remembered.  Say hello if you were there.  Check out MARNIE,Jennie,kenny  thread.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 25, 2002, 11:41:00 AM »
I remember a young lady with decency and compassion as you described.  I had a terible crush on her before she left staff, abruptly and without explanation, as if there was ever any other way people left staff!!  

Atlanta was a netherworld for me..distant from home...strange accents....alone.  People like Pam made it easier.  Then they would disappear....

[ This Message was edited by: tampa survivor on 2002-07-25 08:48 ]

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Marnie, Jennie & Kenny Sykes
« on: July 25, 2002, 11:24:00 AM »
I was from St. Pete, Bobby from Sarasota.  His drama involved a bunch of splits and physical torture at Sarasota. Details were sketchy as we were not allowed to talk on ride to ATL or afterwards.
I had split 3rd and 2nd phase, misbehaved for a few months in between, made it to 4th in St Pete, got knocked back down and decided that they could all get screwed.  Every little strategy Newton came up with, like isolation from group, banning my parents from open meetings, eating p'nut butter for 2 months,just made me tune them out more.  I did some fighting with HRS people around.  I tried to act out on Nancy Reagans 1981 visit. Miller Newton couln't bend me mentally and it pissed him off. Oh, wasn't Newton great when his whole head would damn near turn purple with rage?  I loved doing that.  His sick perversion of force+confrontation+breaking down=love from your peers screwed up a bunch of kids.  I am proud that that peacock bastard, charlatan of redemption,con artist with a mail order PhD never broke me.  Screw playing along and making staff.  What, become what I hated most?      
Mrs. Byrd....I had bailed on my 2nd day of school(3rd phase).  I was taken to ATL 'cause I liked to split.  Not knowing ATL very well, I walked right down a main road, hitchhiking, when a little crappy car pulled over to give me a ride.  IT WAS HER!!  She told me to get in the car.  Ha, yeah right.  A little quick math and I figured there was no way she herself could catch me, so down the embankment I went.  Kudzu is thorny, but it sure slows down executive directors better than it does a 15 yo on a mission for freedom.
I was (am)tall, turned 15 in ATL,had dark blonde hair, and was thin from my incarceration and food deprivation. I relished sleeping in the woods that night.Bill

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You tell a great story. I could feel that sweaty god awful Monday night open meeting air, with the look and groans from the parents.  Lip synching, misery, dry, when can I ever have something other than p'nut butter again. Why is this kool aid thicker than owl snot?



My daughter came home singing "Down by the Bay" after school and I almost grabbed the shotgun!!

I am new here.  I split five times.  Split/went home (pulled?) off 2nd.  Never got closure.  Its all history, right?  Rage is a nice little emotion.

I need a bowl...

[ This Message was edited by: tampa survivor on 2002-07-26 07:45 ]

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