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Title: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on July 07, 2013, 10:46:40 AM
Has anybody heard from Ursus? Sure hope the Bear's OK.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on July 19, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
Come to think of it,we haven't heard from Ursus since the new regime took over.
Wonder why.......
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: lifeboat on July 19, 2013, 01:11:10 PM
The new rules have created a "rat out your fellow peer" system.  Ginger may know where Ursus is.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: YV23 on July 19, 2013, 01:21:40 PM
Ursus left way before the new admins took over, and that was because this place was a sewer filled with hate, les and verbal violence. None-ya, you were part of that, so don't blame them for your actions. They had no part in that
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on July 19, 2013, 01:52:33 PM
Quote from: "YV23"
Ursus left way before the new admins took over, and that was because this place was a sewer filled with hate, les and verbal violence. None-ya, you were part of that, so don't blame them for your actions. They had no part in that


But you sure did.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: lifeboat on July 19, 2013, 04:45:40 PM
Quote from: "YV23"
Ursus left way before the new admins took over, and that was because this place was a sewer filled with hate, les and verbal violence. None-ya, you were part of that, so don't blame them for your actions. They had no part in that



What are you smoking?  The admins ( Antigen: Ginger, psy, The Fornits, Ursus, webdiva: Kelly) of this website before it became registered to webdiva did not cut the mustard. They let Whooter derail threads consistently although psy contends "Whooter was a catalyst for discussion."  Whooter / DJ should have been permanently banned.   When this site was registered to Ginger: Ginger was weak, psy was out to lunch and Kelly rarely made an appearance when [email protected]#$ hit the fan.  Ursus should have stepped down considering the weak team members.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: YV23 on July 19, 2013, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: "lifeboat"
Quote from: "YV23"
Ursus left way before the new admins took over, and that was because this place was a sewer filled with hate, les and verbal violence. None-ya, you were part of that, so don't blame them for your actions. They had no part in that



What are you smoking?  The admins ( Antigen: Ginger, psy, The Fornits, Ursus, webdiva: Kelly) of this website before it became registered to webdiva did not cut the mustard. They let Whooter derail threads consistently although psy contends "Whooter was a catalyst for discussion."  Whooter / DJ should have been permanently banned.   When this site was registered to Ginger: Ginger was weak, psy was out to lunch and Kelly rarely made an appearance when [email protected]#$ hit the fan.  Ursus should have stepped down considering the weak team members.
Ursus was here until fornits went completely unmoderated, so they played no part in him  leaving. Capish?

I don't smoke. Filthy fucking habit, pot included
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: lifeboat on July 19, 2013, 10:07:10 PM
Quote from: "YV23"
Ursus left way before the new admins took over, and that was because this place was a sewer filled with hate, les and verbal violence. None-ya, you were part of that, so don't blame them for your actions. They had no part in that

The pot calling the kettle black.   :roflmao:
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Whooter on July 20, 2013, 08:43:23 AM
If you recall, for the most part,  many threads were derailed as a result of my posts and opinions being attacked by those people who had a difficult time expressing themselves or their point of view.  DJ especially struggled with controlling his frustration yielding to his instinct to attacking people vs expressing an opposing opinion intelligently and engaging in a more civil dialog.  This behavior of attacking the poster vs attacking the subject matter or topic of a particular thread resulted in many threads being derailed.



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Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on July 20, 2013, 09:52:31 AM
Quote from: "Whooter"
If you recall, for the most part,  many threads were derailed as a result of my posts and opinions being attacked by those people who had a difficult time expressing themselves or their point of view.  DJ especially struggled with controlling his frustration yielding to his instinct to attacking people vs expressing an opposing opinion intelligently and engaging in a more civil dialog.  This behavior of attacking the poster vs attacking the subject matter or topic of a particular thread resulted in many threads being derailed.



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Then why were you the only one banned?
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Whooter on July 20, 2013, 10:39:30 AM
Quote from: "none-ya"
Quote from: "Whooter"
If you recall, for the most part,  many threads were derailed as a result of my posts and opinions being attacked by those people who had a difficult time expressing themselves or their point of view.  DJ especially struggled with controlling his frustration yielding to his instinct to attacking people vs expressing an opposing opinion intelligently and engaging in a more civil dialog.  This behavior of attacking the poster vs attacking the subject matter or topic of a particular thread resulted in many threads being derailed.



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Then why were you the only one banned?

lol, it was independent of my discussions on the open forum.



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Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Judge Joe on July 20, 2013, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: "none-ya"
Quote from: "Whooter"
If you recall, for the most part,  many threads were derailed as a result of my posts and opinions being attacked by those people who had a difficult time expressing themselves or their point of view.  DJ especially struggled with controlling his frustration yielding to his instinct to attacking people vs expressing an opposing opinion intelligently and engaging in a more civil dialog.  This behavior of attacking the poster vs attacking the subject matter or topic of a particular thread resulted in many threads being derailed.



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Then why were you the only one banned?

Whooter violated a pm restraining order  ::deadhorse::
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Whooter on July 20, 2013, 11:30:47 AM
Quote from: "Judge Joe"
Quote from: "none-ya"
Quote from: "Whooter"
If you recall, for the most part,  many threads were derailed as a result of my posts and opinions being attacked by those people who had a difficult time expressing themselves or their point of view.  DJ especially struggled with controlling his frustration yielding to his instinct to attacking people vs expressing an opposing opinion intelligently and engaging in a more civil dialog.  This behavior of attacking the poster vs attacking the subject matter or topic of a particular thread resulted in many threads being derailed.



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Then why were you the only one banned?

Whooter violated a pm restraining order  ::deadhorse::

Exactly!



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Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Judge Joe on July 20, 2013, 01:01:21 PM
When I was global moderator formerly "The gatekeeper" you would send me massive complaints about DJ and DJ would send me massive complaints about you.  The closest analogy I can think of is  a mother babysitting two children.  The two of you would provoke each other, often derailing threads.  I voiced my opinion that both of you should be banned.  The furthest I got with psy, was a temporary ban.  You were given a lot of leeway because you were viewed as "a catalyst for discussion" as lifeboat wrote earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Whooter on July 20, 2013, 01:36:13 PM
Quote from: "Judge Joe"
When I was global moderator formerly "The gatekeeper" you would send me massive complaints about DJ and DJ would send me massive complaints about you.  The closest analogy I can think of is  a mother babysitting two children.  The two of you would provoke each other, often derailing threads.  I voiced my opinion that both of you should be banned.  The furthest I got with psy, was a temporary ban.  You were given a lot of leeway because you were viewed as "a catalyst for discussion" as lifeboat wrote earlier in this thread.

Nice try Joe, but your story doesn't hold water,  I never sent massive complaints about anyone.  Like DJ you could never produce any of these massive pms I supposedly have sent.  In fact I dont think anyone could produce more that a dozen PMs I have sent "anyone" over the past 7 years.  I think most people know that I prefer to converse on the open forum.  

But that is in the past, lets focus on moving forward.



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Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on July 20, 2013, 01:37:31 PM
Quote
Judge Joe Blow wrote;
When I was global moderator formerly "The gatekeeper"

Yeah we remember. That's when everything started going to complete shit. Why you were never banned is beyond me. It's taken this long to start to recover from your folly. As far as I'm concerned the best thing you ever did for this site was to go away.
That's my opinion.
Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on July 20, 2013, 01:39:34 PM
Whooter, weren't you banned on a wager that you couldn't stop stalking DJ?
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Whooter on July 20, 2013, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: "none-ya"
Whooter, weren't you banned on a wager that you couldn't stop stalking DJ?

Like I said I dont think anyone could produce more than a dozen PMs from me for the past 7 years, so no it wasn't stalking.  In short, I exposed some sensitive information which didnt make DJ happy and PM'd him, he wasnt happy and asked the admins to restrict me from PMing him again.  I agreed not to and a few days or weeks later I pm'd one of his aliases which technically broke the agreement I had with Fornits admins.  As a result I was banned.  I argued that I never pm'd DJ directly so I should not have been banned,  but since PMing one of his many aliases did constitute a communication I accepted the banning and did post after that date until now that it has changed hands.
I hope this clears it up.  It really doesnt have any effect on anyone and wasnt a reflection of my behavior on the open forum so I think we can all move forward.



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Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Judge Joe on July 20, 2013, 03:44:44 PM
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Judge Joe"
When I was global moderator formerly "The gatekeeper" you would send me massive complaints about DJ and DJ would send me massive complaints about you.  The closest analogy I can think of is  a mother babysitting two children.  The two of you would provoke each other, often derailing threads.  I voiced my opinion that both of you should be banned.  The furthest I got with psy, was a temporary ban.  You were given a lot of leeway because you were viewed as "a catalyst for discussion" as lifeboat wrote earlier in this thread.

Nice try Joe, but your story doesn't hold water,  I never sent massive complaints about anyone.  Like DJ you could never produce any of these massive pms I supposedly have sent.  In fact I dont think anyone could produce more that a dozen PMs I have sent "anyone" over the past 7 years.  I think most people know that I prefer to converse on the open forum.  

But that is in the past, lets focus on moving forward.



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Agreed
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: psy on July 20, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: "Whooter"
since PMing one of his many aliases did constitute a communication I accepted the banning and did post after that date until now that it has changed hands.

It was a long time ago but I think we were able to establish that you knew the alternate account was DJ when you PMed him, and that was the deciding factor.

In any case, most of this is off-topic.  Please keep the topic to Ursus.  To let everybody know, Ursus is not dead.  I've heard indirectly from Ursus that he/she is just lying low for a while.  Everybody is entitled to a break anyway, especially after the phenomenal yet thankless job he/she did.  The bear will be missed, but more than welcome back if/when he/she decides to return.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: psy on July 20, 2013, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: "none-ya"
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Judge Joe Blow wrote;
When I was global moderator formerly "The gatekeeper"

Yeah we remember. That's when everything started going to complete shit. Why you were never banned is beyond me. It's taken this long to start to recover from your folly. As far as I'm concerned the best thing you ever did for this site was to go away.
That's my opinion.
Have a nice day.
None-ya. You've been repeatedly warned, but calling other members names such as "joe blow", even if there were worse thing, is just the last straw.  It doesn't seem like you can get along with anybody on this site and so I'm banning you for a week.  You can disagree, but the decision is made. Please, when you return, perhaps you can focus more on talking about, say, the program or your experiences -- and spend less time arguing or attacking others.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Bud Greenberg on July 20, 2013, 06:21:39 PM
Further evidence that the crazies are running the asylum. You've banned the person who started this thread. When logic fails,simply silence the opposition. Just like you learned in the program. This site has become just another click. Psy I see where you sided with drunken children,rather than agree with someone you don't like. You were still administrator here while Joel was moderator. And you did nothing while he and his brother posted disgusting porn,and threatened everybody. Are you sure you three aren't dating?
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Bud Greenberg on July 20, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
And how do we know that Ursus is ok?
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: psy on July 21, 2013, 09:44:51 AM
Quote from: "Bud Greenberg"
Further evidence that the crazies are running the asylum. You've banned the person who started this thread. When logic fails,simply silence the opposition. Just like you learned in the program. This site has become just another click. Psy I see where you sided with drunken children,rather than agree with someone you don't like. You were still administrator here while Joel was moderator. And you did nothing while he and his brother posted disgusting porn,and threatened everybody. Are you sure you three aren't dating?

1. none-ya has started fights with nearly everybody in ever single thread he has posted in.  It's not just one event.
2. most of the porn, believe it or not, was not posted by Gatekeeper or his brother, and none of it during Gatekeeper's tenure as a moderator.
3. during the time the porn was posted, the forum was not moderated.  I did not make the rules back then, except for a short period after which Ginger decided the forum would no longer be moderated at all.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: webdiva on July 22, 2013, 12:07:28 PM
Quote from: "lifeboat"
Quote from: "YV23"
Ursus left way before the new admins took over, and that was because this place was a sewer filled with hate, les and verbal violence. None-ya, you were part of that, so don't blame them for your actions. They had no part in that



What are you smoking?  The admins ( Antigen: Ginger, psy, The Fornits, Ursus, webdiva: Kelly) of this website before it became registered to webdiva did not cut the mustard. They let Whooter derail threads consistently although psy contends "Whooter was a catalyst for discussion."  Whooter / DJ should have been permanently banned.   When this site was registered to Ginger: Ginger was weak, psy was out to lunch and Kelly rarely made an appearance when [email protected]#$ hit the fan.  Ursus should have stepped down considering the weak team members.

I, Kelly, have only ever done  technical support, I host the site and help keep it alive.   I don't have time to be here and babysit posts, Psy has basically volunteered for that and has been doing a good job since we got rid of the spam, which took me HOURS and HOURS. Ursus left during the time that I was trying to get all the spam off the site, a few months ago.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Che Gookin on July 23, 2013, 08:41:15 PM
Truth be told, the porn was posted by Niles.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on September 27, 2013, 11:56:06 PM
Truth be told, the porn was posted by Niles.

I don't believe you or your brother. That's about as nice as I can be to the both of you without getting banned again.
 
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: DannyB II on September 28, 2013, 05:42:35 PM
I can believe that, none ya.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on September 29, 2013, 09:17:08 PM
THIS PLACE HAS GONE COMPLETELY TO HELL!!!
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on September 29, 2013, 10:11:00 PM
SINCE WHEN IS IT THE TROUBLED "PARENT" INDUSTRY??!! HOW MANY PARENTS WOUND UP IN THE PROGRAM???!!!
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Che Gookin on September 30, 2013, 11:35:45 AM
Truth be told, the porn was posted by Niles.

I don't believe you or your brother. That's about as nice as I can be to the both of you without getting banned again.
 


It's clear to me you are suffering from some sort of mental illness. This makes it very difficult for me to want to argue with you or to get drawn into some sort of conflict with a person like you. It just isn't healthy for you and in the short/long run I don't want to be the cause of any potential mental distress that will be heaped on your from such a conflict.

My faith demands I forgive you for the things that you've done to me. It doesn't demand I trust you or pay any attention to you. This means nothing has changed, just as before you were banned for your childish behavior that is so very symptomatic of your mental illness, it remains that I won't be acknowledging your acting out but will be affirming your positive behaviors.

Please seek mental help, you need it badly.


Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: none-ya on September 30, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
It's real simple man. You abused kids at the Eckerd camp.So did your brother. And then he attacked me here. All I've done is call bullshit where it stinks! You were staff without ever being in a program yourself. You did it for money.(I guess the kwikie mart wasn't hiring)  It's nice that you don't want to cause me distress,but how about the stress and fear you cussed innocent unsuspecting children in your charge. All the newbies here should know who they're talking to.YOU ARE NOT A SURVIVOR!  JUST A GARDEN VARIETY ABUSER.!!  It's bad enough, what some people had to do to get out of their programs.What you did in the program for money,you do it here for kicks. So go ahead, post some more of your gay Chinese porn collection. I'm sure psy won't take it down.So forgive me,don't forgive me,I don't care. I've done you no harm.  You should seek forgiveness from those YOU abused. Me? All you did was piss me off.

ps. Still having those nightmares about kid getting revenge? I wonder how many of those kids are still having their own nightmares.I know psy took that down,but don't worry,I pm'd a copy to every body. 
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: DannyB II on September 30, 2013, 09:40:02 PM
 :) Thanks for setting the record straight None Ya.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: psy on October 09, 2013, 09:34:14 AM
The "troubled parent industry" tag-line has been there for as long as I can remember.  The point is that in many cases, it's the parents who are troubled, and not their kids who they place in program.  Also, please refrain from attacking others outside of the OFFA.
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: Che Gookin on October 11, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
I for one voted no.

 ;D
Title: Re: Ursus?
Post by: dragonfly on September 26, 2014, 09:38:58 AM