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There was an actual video of three large adults holding a child of 14 down until she lost consciousness. One of the staffers looked like she weighed at least 250 pounds or more. They just left her there - then realized she was uncounscious and tryed CPR - to no avail. Unbelievable.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is
proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in
everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
--Herbert Spencer

I'm watching it right now on NBC - very good information...Thanks

The introduction of a Creator has done our independence no good.
--Gore Vidal, author

The Troubled Teen Industry / YES- TROUBLED PARENTS!
« on: July 28, 2005, 11:22:00 PM »
I think the site should refer to the trobled teen industry since most of the posts here are about that topic. Just my point of view. Perhaps a new forum for troubled parents of teens.

for it is a truth, which the experience of all ages has attested, that the people are commonly most in danger when the means of insuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.    
--Alexander Hamilton

The Troubled Teen Industry / 'Brat Camp' not an easy decision
« on: July 27, 2005, 05:52:00 PM »
So far I haven't watched this program - it shouldn't be on the air. It is disgusting that the networks are now exploiting children with emotional, home and behavior problems. The parents who allow this exploitation are worse than the networks. How can they expose their children's lives to the whole country. This is so outrageous.

Give me the youth, and Germany will rule the world.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Close PCS FOREVER!
« on: July 20, 2005, 09:14:00 PM »
I hope they find this website and others just to let them know they are not alone.

A vote for GW is a vote for America's Führer.
--Anonymous (it's best that way...)

I'd suggest you get an order to show cause and try to re-establish your parental rights. Ask for joint custody again. Once you have joint custody they will need the consent of both parents. Is this school in California? I've never heard of it before.

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A simple internet search shows over 6000 links when tranquility bay teen abuse is searched. Parents who send their children there are definitely responsible for their child abuse. They'd have be either sadists, abusive parents or retards to sent their children to Tranquility Bay. There have been hundreds, if not thousands, of reports of human rights violations, child abuse, unsanitary conditions and psychological abuse. The parents who trust TB with their kids are truly nuts.  

If you think about why you hate me, you might find that it's not me.

Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore / Misdemeanor Charges
« on: July 11, 2005, 12:12:00 AM »
I usually post on the teen help forum. Just though you could use some help. I'm not a legal eagle but have graduated from law school. Hope this helps you.....

Republican n. A liberty despising, money worshiping, control freak. Democrat n. A liberty despising, social engineering, control freak.
-- Anonymous

Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore / Runaways from Whitmore Academy
« on: July 11, 2005, 12:06:00 AM »
Often when 18 years olds ask for their belongings they are told that the clothing, etc belongs to their parents. You really should get in touch with them. I'm sure they are concerned about you and possibly they will help you.  

Faith means not wanting to know what is true.
--Freidrich Nietzsche, German philosopher

Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore / Misdemeanor Charges
« on: July 10, 2005, 11:58:00 PM »
A misdemeanor is a crime not punishable by more than one year in jail. A misdemeanor is a crime - but not a serious crime. A felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in jail. Usually involves a crime associated with Battery, Assault, Arson, Larceny, Rape, Burglary and other dangerous crimes......

Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat

It's good that you are all sticking together. Remember this is Utah - home to hundreds of teen programs. It will be interesting to see if someone in this industry gets some jail time. So far few, if any have. In the case of the torture death of Aaron Bacon - one of the staff members who refused to plea bargain got one year - and served only 3 months.

It will be interesting to see what happens.  

Men had better be without education than be educated by their rulers.
--Thomas Hodgskin, 1823

Bob Lichfield formed many alliances at Provo Canyon School. Karr Farnsworth was indeed one of them. Others also.  During the time Farnsworth was there PCS was successfully sued for many abuses to children. It is truly where the founders of WWASP learned their behavior modification methods and punishments associated with it.

Here was the successful lawsuit against PCS during the time Lichfield, Farnsworth and friends worked there.... ... lliams.htm[ This Message was edited by: cherish wisdom on 2005-07-08 18:06 ]

I'd suggest you encourage your friend to do a total internet search - she really needs to be aware of their tactics. You need to see the information that ISAC has compiled about WWASP - particularly the documents showing how these representatives are nothing more than salespeople who get bonuses and dinner tickets for "selling" the programs to desparate parents.
Please look at all of this and send it to her.  
Here's some links you must see...[
On this link scroll down and find all of the documents under WWASP/Teen Help Documents. You will be shocked - Please copy this information and send it to her.  [ This Message was edited by: cherish wisdom on 2005-07-05 21:32 ][ This Message was edited by: cherish wisdom on 2005-07-05 21:35 ]

The Troubled Teen Industry / Torture of Prisoners in Arizona
« on: June 29, 2005, 03:15:00 PM »
If no one has died yet - someone will. Apparently this type of prisoner abuse is as American as Apple Pie - because nothing is being done to stop it. It's uncivilized. Surely one must realize that a percentage of all prisoners are innocent - many more are there as a result of their drug addictions (ie possession of their poison) They aren't all violent offenders.  

Fear believes--courage doubts. Fear falls up the earth and prays--- courage stands erect and thinks. Fear is barbarism---courage is civilization. Fear believes in witchcraft, devils and ghosts. Fear is religion, courage is science.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer

The Troubled Teen Industry / Torture of Prisoners in Arizona
« on: June 29, 2005, 02:56:00 PM »
This is the first I've heard of him - he needs to be stopped. Truth be known anyone could end up in his tents.  

May 12-13: Sowed Hemp at Muddy  hole by Swamp. August 7: Began to separate the Male from the Female at Do - rather too late.' target='_new'>George Washington (Diary)

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