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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 09, 2007, 01:46:34 PM
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This is like a weekly version of "Scared Straight," aimed at a young audience to give it a taste and feel for what it's like to suddenly be in juvenile detention because of a bad decision. The first episode deals with a 16-year-old girl whose mother has had police pick her up as a runaway (a recurring theme on upcoming shows), and a 17-year-old boy apparently wrongfully charged with stealing a car. The cameras follow them as they're locked up and forced into the system until they face a stern judge. The difference between the two in the first show is the attitude of the parents ? which is true in real life as well. You can't help but feel sorry for the kids ? or to feel despair for their lack of skills at looking beyond the immediate moment to see what the consequences of their actions might be. There's a hard dose of reality in this reality show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1PgsWpZeiU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1PgsWpZeiU)
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Great, more drama-mongering at the expense of children.
What else is new?
I do find it fucking hilarious someone can be locked up for running away of all things... but at least shes in a jail, and not a program.
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You can't help but feel sorry for the kids ? or to feel despair for their lack of skills at looking beyond the immediate moment to see what the consequences of their actions might be. There's a hard dose of reality in this reality show.
I would say, "lack of knowledgeof the consequences of their actions". And in this sense, this show could be educational. It could teach kids how to be more discrete and careful to avoid being incarcerated.
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I doubt that very much, Deb.
This is going to be presented as "you'll get caught and punished" kind of thing, not how the system works in a informative manner.
If you wanna learn how to not get caught, you talk to your cellmate, DUUUHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh!
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I saw half of that program, and it damn sure was educational. If someone told me that if I did x,y,z I might end up in juvie. I may not be as careful as I might be if I knew what the details of juvie actually were. It appeared to be a factual depiction of how the kid is booked and life inside juvie. And I'm guessing the judge was pretty typical as well. I don't think it's harmful or oppressive to educate kids on how their society treats anyone deemed a criminal. How is it useful to withhold that information?
Now, if the program did not accurately depict the situation, that might be a different matter.
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Seemed to me as if if you were saying it could teach them how to avoid juvie... as in how to not get caught.
The kind of stuff career criminals tend to know, I misunderstood you.
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Compared to the situation in my country there is a lot more handcuffs legirons etc.
In my country it is not a crime to be a runaway. You can not be put in jail just for bering a runaway but the authorities would try to find either treatment, supervised apartment or a foster home. Living in the street or staying at an adult over 18 years of age is not allowed without consent from the parents.
But.
At least these children in the show get to go before a judge before they are locked up.
They are way better protected than the inmates at wwasp and aspen!
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As a parent watching this show for the first time last night, I thought it was very educational. They weren't bad kids in there, but they were suffering a consequence for something done wrong. I wish more children landed in front of a judge/juvie instead of parents (especially frightened, mislead, worried) becoming the judge, jury and deciding the sentence. I guess that's why we have laws in place. I know that I thought I was doing the right thing by sending my child to a christian academy (aka torture/abusive place). I was so afraid of the judicial system I was trying to save him. In the end I should have stayed out of it and if he continued his ways he would have wound up in Juvi. In front of a Judge to decide his fate.
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What you neglected to mention in that is that most program kids have not done anything wrong at all, legally speaking or otherwise.
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Every kid should go through an experience like Juvies. Instead of getting summers off from school, many kids, if not all, would benefit from a brief stay (2-6 weeks) in a correctional facility with therapy and medications to help sort things out and do a self inventory. Spare the rod, spoil the child. If parents aren't willing to do something, the schools need to get involved. Juvies provides an excellent model, IMHO.
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Every kid should go through an experience like Juvies. Instead of getting summers off from school, many kids, if not all, would benefit from a brief stay (2-6 weeks) in a correctional facility with therapy and medications to help sort things out and do a self inventory. Spare the rod, spoil the child. If parents aren't willing to do something, the schools need to get involved. Juvies provides an excellent model, IMHO.
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I WANT MY FUCKING ELEVEN!!!
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Every kid should go through an experience like Juvies. Instead of getting summers off from school, many kids, if not all, would benefit from a brief stay (2-6 weeks) in a correctional facility with therapy and medications to help sort things out and do a self inventory. Spare the rod, spoil the child. If parents aren't willing to do something, the schools need to get involved. Juvies provides an excellent model, IMHO.
I watched last night, only the second half. One boy was in there for fighting. In this day and time you can't bully other kids. This boy got into a fight while locked up also, thus a 24 hour lock down for him. Another boy was caught smoking pot while driving (ran a stop sign). Again, illegal. So as an average upper middle class parent, this is the normal stuff that we parents start freaking out about. Your kid starts fighting all the time. This boy just didn't have one fight that landed him locked up. A juvi running a stop sign while a joint is going in the car. Both, they needed consequences. They got it. They both got out when they seen the Judge. I think a good lesson learned, what those boys do with that lesson will be entirely up to them.
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24 hours in lockup, and my son would be out the next night with a bigger joint in his mouth running more stop signs. That kind of female (judge) operated deterrent doesn't work for some kids, especially my boys. They needed a longer structure program. I wish the schools would give us some middle ground like a six week program. I had to spend a lot of my own private money on a program. I wish they provided more than a 24 hour program for all my tax dollars.
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I think relying on humiliation and anxiety to teach life lessons is pretty stupid.
What matters is their judgement when that shit wears OFF.
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24 hours in lockup, and my son would be out the next night with a bigger joint in his mouth running more stop signs. That kind of female (judge) operated deterrent doesn't work for some kids, especially my boys. They needed a longer structure program. I wish the schools would give us some middle ground like a six week program. I had to spend a lot of my own private money on a program. I wish they provided more than a 24 hour program for all my tax dollars.
I wish you provided parenting to your kids!
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its just too obvious in this thread...
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I do find it fucking hilarious someone can be locked up for running away of all things... but at least shes in a jail, and not a program.
Not a goddamn thing funny about it, Niles.. what would you do if your nigger ran away? :silly: :rofl:
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Seemed to me as if if you were saying it could teach them how to avoid juvie... as in how to not get caught.
The kind of stuff career criminals tend to know, I misunderstood you.
Well I think the point was that it's good to know what one could be in store for..
Speaking of.. I know what my brain cells are in store for in a few minutes here..
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I do find it fucking hilarious someone can be locked up for running away of all things... but at least shes in a jail, and not a program.
Not a goddamn thing funny about it, Niles.. what would you do if your nigger ran away? :silly: :rofl:
I dunno, my nigras are my /b/rothas...
Don't make me close your pool. :flame:
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I guess now would be a good time to mention that we try to stop the spread of AIDS... and programs are just full of it.
Especially Tranqulility Bay's pool. It's more infested than the centipedes in Sue Scheff!
(http://http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/0/06/Centipedes.jpg)
For more information, check the following websights:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/in ... led_vagina (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Centipede_filled_vagina)
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/in ... _July_2006 (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/The_Great_Habbo_Raid_of_July_2006)
Also, basically... "The great Habbo raid of July 12 (Fuck you, Europe), 2006 was an online version of The Million Man March to protest the racism of the Habbo mods. It was the first of a series of raids to end all raids." for those too lazy to click or too much of a pansy to face up to some obscentity.
Also, on a serious note, Habbo is pedo-central. JEEEEZUS fucking christ you have no idea how many teens and tweens run around giving out phonenumbers like chicklets.... :roll: but horny pedos are great victims for goatse and lastmeasure, I must say!
I really need to make a "trolling 101" post sometime.
Also, I rate my own post a [troll9]
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I am always surprised there are parents out there willing to call a TV show to help deal with their kid. Or maybe the producers approached them inside the Juvie Court Room? Does that make it any less exploitative? America's sense of curiosity is being taken to sickening levels. Whatever sells though.. people talk about these shows as if they are produced with some moral purpose in mind. Heck, the producers probably even believe that perhaps. But thats obvious not what is going on. People are curious to see what they never saw. To those who have seen it while living it, it's disgusting. To everyone else, it's some sort of social experiment. I'd love to turn a camera on someone at one of their lowest points in life and see how they feel.
I went out to dinner with my mom a few weeks ago and she was telling me how she was watching trading spouses or something and commenting all seriously on the social implications. I just laughed, and thought of one of the few clips I saw of the show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu6zNd6_K5w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu6zNd6_K5w)
And I think to myself.. you think this is done for anything more than pure entertainment? :rofl: Thats prime time stuff... laughing at the raving local village idiot. They seek out these crazy people under the pretense of caring and all that. Bloodsuckers.
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THIS THREAD IS UNGODLY
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This industry is ungodly.
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I do find it fucking hilarious someone can be locked up for running away of all things... but at least shes in a jail, and not a program.
Not a goddamn thing funny about it, Niles.. what would you do if your nigger ran away? :silly: :rofl:
I dunno, my nigras are my /b/rothas...
Don't make me close your pool. :flame:
Don't get all pc with me now, you know I was alluding to that old joke on here about the woodshed... lololol