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Troubled Teen Industry.com - Program Website Division / Re: So what is this all about
« on: December 26, 2008, 09:05:49 PM »
Hai guys!

New account same beotch. Well wanted to drop in with an update. created the myspace for TTI but I switched to a new account/url. I havent had time to go add friends but I will soon dive back into that project. You can visit it at: http://www.myspace.com/troubledteenindustry

I have taken specific measures to protect our myspace's from being hacked... this has happened to me before with the WWASP survivors page so I planned ahead.

I have also started a Darrington Academy Survivors Page and friend requested everyone I could find that went to Darrington. Hope this helps us get a few to come forward and join our ranks.

I finished the "Research Strategy" project I mentioned before and wanted to make it available for everyone to use if they choose. I'm going to post it on the TTI project manager but I just wanted to let you all know you can email me and I can send you a zipped file that holds the folder storage/ organizational system and our project list as well as some instructions. Just so you all know, No one is required to use the system, I just want to make it available and hope it might be useful to you guys trying to keep track of all the information your combing through.

Please feel free to email me to get a copy and feel free to ask any questions or offer any suggestions.
[email protected]

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: Here is to whomever that did this sick action
« on: December 26, 2008, 05:20:34 PM »
Quote from: "Miss Antsy Pam"
Ok, here is a honest insight on Pam and her son Dylan's life, and why Pam puts out the time and effort for you awful heartless people who would do such a thing so....? You all could feel better about yourselves; what does it help you sleep at night cowards!!!!!   I am Pam's adopted daughter Holly.  Why do I have meaning to this discussion, because i am Dylan"s girl-friend and have been since he got out of that hell on earth, torture hole; as you all know!!
I think the fact that someone would go that low digging into someones personal life such as you did is a complete and utter violation... i have been in this family and with Dylan since shortly after casa and NOBODY knows how bad that feels knowing they have made such a mistake and for you to attack this woman shows zero strength in all of you!  

 For what u have committed, posting my mothers personal life on your fornits (talk shit and could NEVER back it up site) is and has been fascinating, but this is so low, so cruel of all you. You all don't know Pam; if you did, what you have all said & done, it would haunt you your whole lives.. Since you sick people will continue on in this blog against the fight to put an end to the trouble teen industry, which your not even focusing on, instead acting like a troubled teen yourselves. Here is something i think everybody should know about Pam, enabler she is not, a kind loving STRONG woman who helps the community and her loved ones such as family and myself more than you sad lifeless blogers who would do such a thing, would be never be of her caliber.

 Since whomever keeps on quoting the excerpts from her personal blogs about her family is not only offensive to Dylan but her entire family, including me. So, now here i am reading what you all have written, posted or participated in the alignment of Pam sickens my soul Only because of the mere fact you are all wrong so please all of you don't beat the horse any longer ---- the horse is dead.    I am appalled at the juvenile behavior exhibited in this thread, grow the FUCK UP PEOPLE AND GET A LIFE i mean come on, its Christmas & you all you all are the scum that fills our world !! sleep well     ....... love always Pam's loving  Daughter        ::puke::    shit heads!!!

WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW.

Im honestly not even going to mention what I know about YOU Holly, which believe me is enough to judge that this piece of work came straight from your ass, but holy jesus how fucking stupid could one cunty bitch be?... lololol. These people don't like your EX BOYFRIENDS mother because she has come on too strong and made too many excuses which for most of us SCREAMS a WWASP plant. I don't know HOW someone came across this blog, unless it is the blog on antiwwasp but I'm pretty sure who ever did this was investigating those judgments in order to find out if she was a "program parent" or who she claims to be. Futhermore, Pam uploaded those blog entries for people to be able to read, and as it is human nature to judge any number of situations I don't find it "so low" or "so cruel" I find it to be slightly invasive, but most of us take measures to protect our identities and personal information and considering that Pam did not she cant blame people for reading a publicly posted journal.

Here's the thing tho, I don't approve of bashing Pam, and neither do many other people on this site and even in this thread. There is probably one or two TROLLS who bait her on purpose and that is because that is what they do to everyone. That is kind of what hiding behind anonymity is about, you say the most shocking thing to get people all riled up and spark some entertaining conversations. I really don't think we would have half the good content contributions here on Fornits if trolls weren't allowed to come in here and stir some shit up. Honestly its pretty much all a big joke and what you should do is get a kick out of intelligently debating those people and PROVE your opinion has more validity than theirs. However you did not do this, instead you decided to bring your trailer trash, Jerry Springer, gangster talk to a forum that is probably all just getting the BIGGEST chuckle at your expense. The fact that you said this is what really gets me rolling:

Quote from: "Miss Antsy Pam"
For what u have committed, posting my mothers personal life on your fornits (talk shit and could NEVER back it up site)(Bahahaha haaa) is and has been fascinating, but this is so low, so cruel of all you. You all don't know Pam; if you did, what you have all said & done, it would haunt you your whole lives

Seriously?... what are we Fornitcators supposed to do to "back up" what we say here online?... are you insisting that it would be more agreeable to come knock on your door and say it to your face? If I ever get the dubious pleasure of meeting you Holly I assure you I will. lol and on a side note, please don't even come close to assuming you could take me in a fight, because I'm afraid that could only end badly for you. Futhermore, I DO know Pam, too well I'm afraid and although I am not her biggest fan I have still used this opportunity to shed some light on the truth to ease some of our fellow posters suspicions as well has Psy and Che and other posters who have only given their opinion on the situation and NEVER bashed Pam. Yet you have come to OUR site and spewed your hateful shit all over everyone. I don't think anyone takes kindly to that, so please bitch, don't expect a warm welcome. And if you could kindly go fuck yourself that would be much appreciated as well.

<3 :jerry:

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: WWASP Experiences
« on: December 26, 2008, 04:27:43 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0"
It wasn't until I went through this and truly matured that my mom felt confident that I deserved her help.

I also think that your idea that you didn't "deserve" your mother's help at one point is not healthy.

Well I would tend to agree with you on your statements, but I never said "I" believed that I didnt deserve my mother's help. actually quite the contrary, before I was KICKED OUT of my house at 17 years old I had worked VERY hard to get my diploma that Casa By The Sea deprived me of (not to mention an education) I also got accepted and earned 2 scholarships and a grant to go to the ART SCHOOL OF MY DREAMS!! However my mother told me, "If you couldn't graduate Casa what makes me think your going to graduate college?" and refused to cosign for my student loans. She also mentioned that my college fund had been spent on that hellhole anyway so If I wanted an education I was going to have to get a job and pay for community college classes. At that point I was sick of her shit and happy to leave... I left her house 2 months before my 18th birthday which I spent sad and alone.

I don't think that I deserved to be treated like that, neither to I believe I had to go through some awful shit before I deserved a hand out from her. I'm still pissed it went down that way. I just believe that those experiences made me who I am today, taught me some very valuable lessons.

In this situation with Pam and her son I think a life lesson is exactly what would be appropriate. Pam putting her foot down in this situation is necessary for his maturation, teaching him to fish so to speak and then after he has learned how to fend for himself she can offer him something he can appreciate... for instance, an apartment somewhere in town where he has to pay his own rent. This guy is 21, he needs to get off the teet. when I offered up MY story I wasn't saying what happened to me was the right way, I said being on my own forced me to grow up and I think that's what Pam's son needs too.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: To whom it may concern,
« on: December 26, 2008, 03:15:35 AM »
my question is how has this NOT happened already?...

I mean after the amount of torture and deception these people partake in why has not one mentally unstable survivor taken his last wish of revenge out on any one of these many violators of human decency? I was wondering myself just the other day how these people aren't stalked and burned at a stake?... considering the amount of psychological torment they inflict upon any number of mentally unstable teenagers HOW HAS THIS NOT BECOME A REALITY ALREADY?

Dont Kill Dace tho, I need to sue him first.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: WWASP Experiences
« on: December 25, 2008, 06:01:27 PM »
Reading that, it is quite clear that not only is Pam not a program parent, she is a weak and enabling parent and her son is a fucking asshole.

Here's where our whole stance on child victim vs. parent abuser gets switched upside down. This is a genuine situation where the parent is being abused and the child has learned that is all he has to do to survive in life... use and abuse his weak willed unconditionally loving mother. Its sad, very sad, for both of them.

I have been out of my parents house since I was 17, I have done WHATEVER it took to survive. I went through a violent relationship, couch hopped, lived in my car (and had many run ins with cops for parking and sleeping in restricted areas), worked 3 jobs, took low paying degrading jobs simply because that was all that was available to a 17 year old, did semi nude photos for cash, sold all my nice things, ate top romin every day, supported myself through school, took care of crazy bratty kids for a place to stay, took on 4000 in credit card debt, had many times got sick from dehydration and starvation, and believe me the list goes on and on.

These are the life lessons asshole kids NEED to learn. It wasn't until I went through this and truly matured that my mom felt confident that I deserved her help. She got me an apartment and offered me a job working for her company and I have been doing well ever since. Not to say it hasn't been rocky or stressful, I still work 3 jobs and often do only have top romin to eat, but I have since became an adult. An adult who pays for her own 3 bedroom house, supports her boyfriend (of 3 years) through college and still has time to devote her efforts to 2 beautiful children and a cause that she is passionate about. If I hadn't been out on my ass and had to learn fist hand how hard life is, I would have never learned how to provide for myself as I do today.

Kids like Pam's son are little shits that always had everything handed to them and never had to work for their lives. You might think I'm being a hypocrite by saying this, and maybe I am because this view slightly contradicts my other views, but I really think these kinds of kids need a dose of reality. Ill never say a program is that solution and when you have a minor in the house that pulls this kind of shit you have VERY little options besides to put up with it till their 18 then give them the boot. But this guy is 21!!! he should have taken that hike A LONG TIME AGO. and he should stop blaming his mom that he hasn't already. Pam isn't innocent in this either, she created this monster by not preparing him to leave at 18, or at the most 20. She has also done more harm than good just throwing money at the situation and being nice. I understand she's probably afraid of this kid so there's not TOO much she can do to kick him into gear... but she needed to put her foot down and cut off the piggy bank a long time ago.

look guys, you can bash on Pam all day long, but from the looks of it, your worst could never trump the daily torture her son has put her through. Maybe not because of her choice for sending him to casa, but I'm sure you can say she has gotten her karma 10 fold. ::poke::

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: WWASP Experiences
« on: December 24, 2008, 06:44:21 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
She has a sick child/mother relationship thing going on with Kevin over at anti wwasp.

Look, Im going to tell you all this, not because I'm defending her but because I know from personal experience that Pam is a real parent and she is also devoting a lot of time, energy and money to the fight against institutionalized child abuse. She has even made a decent donation to Fornits in order to keep the hosting paid for this next year so while your bashing on her maybe you can thank her for the fact that she is paying for you to be able to bash her. lol

I will have you know, that I have not always been a Pam fan, for exactly the reason stated by our guest above. But I have come to realize that she has her reasons for still supporting antiwwasp and those are the same reasons she supports Fornits, even though most of you give her hell.

I honestly think there is a point where our judgments should be put aside, when someone is putting in an appreciated effort to warn parents AGAINST doing what she did, I think she is deserving of our cooperation. You dont have to like her in order to appreciate what she is doing, and you dont have to forgive every program parent to give this one that appreciation. I appreciate her, I don't necessarily like her, but I appreciate what she is doing for this cause.

Quote from: "Guest"
Sorry program parents, but you lost your credibility a long time ago. The day you chose to send your kid to a program.

We can all speculate on what drove a parent to make that arrogant, ignorant and selfish decision, I believe you all know how I feel about that. But I think when a parent comes across some information, and pulls their kid that is EXACTLY what we have been working to achieve and it is hypocritical for us to shun someone who did the right thing. Regardless of her generally misguided motives before she did end up doing the right thing, and thank god it was only 2 months. My mom left me to rot for 2 years, and believe me she discounted any information she came across, so my hat comes off to Pam for having the guts to admit she was wrong and go rescue her kid.

What you guys dont know is that being a mother to an violent child is way more than most can handle, and even despite that she still brought her son home. I know plenty of mothers who would keep their kids in a program simply because they were AFRAID to bring their child home. At least Pam was brave enough to do the right thing, even though that meant that she would have no escape from the multitude of problems that her son was soon to bring back into her home. That is MUCH more than any "program parent" would do... We all know they wouldn't even dream of doing what she did in her situation. So my view is that she IS different from the rest, maybe not in the beginning but she is making up for it and I think we should let her do that in peace.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: To the Parents Considering a Program
« on: December 24, 2008, 04:40:36 PM »
Quote from: "cnn"
You should add "running away" for one of the reasons kids get locked up. "Is your kid desperately trying to escape you? Obviously there is something horribly wrong with your kid, not you, and their accounts of abuse are exaggerations."

I love you.

 :roflmao:

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: To whom it may concern,
« on: December 24, 2008, 03:09:41 PM »
oooooh lol.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Film on Aaron Bacon
« on: December 24, 2008, 02:56:13 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "hgsoagh"
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
 Back in 1994 that information wasn't there. Most of you seem to have forgotten what things were like in 1994. That is ok it was 14 or so years ago. You've all forgotten the bloodbath that was going on all over California with the Crips and the Bloods. Yall forgotten the crack wars of the urban ghettos. People were scared during those days and they had a decent enough reason to be scared.

I just can't get over this sociological description of the state of nation in 1994. lol Yes.  It was all crack wars and urban ghettos! I can't believe I'm still alive with all those Crips and Bloods everywhere. I remember they would sneak into your house and hide your socks then when you woke up the next morning we were like, ok, where are my socks? And you knew the Crips had taken them.  We were all so scared and we had decent enough reason to be scared!

 :tup:  :rofl:  :roflmao:  :rasta:  :bs:  :timeout:  :nods:  :notworthy:  :deal:

I wasnt aware that had changed. lol I'm pretty sure Crips are still hiding my socks. and I am frightened.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: thanksgiving inside a program
« on: December 24, 2008, 02:32:12 PM »
Just think what this kind of "game" tells a child about the "real world"... "Basically, if I forfeit all my self respect someone will GIVE me success" This doesn't teach anyone to work hard for what they want or how to uphold standards for themselves. In real life, this same "game" could only be translated into doing sexual favors for money. I honestly feel that MOST of the directors of these schools must be in one way or another a sexual deviant in order to find it appealing to put young children through these kinds of rituals in order to earn favor with them. Any mentally stable man would NEVER find these kinds of "games" appropriate and furthermore would NEVER hang something like "going home" over a child's head just to convince them to do it.

Its sickens me, and the worst part is you have no idea whats even in that chunky slop!

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: WWASP Experiences
« on: December 24, 2008, 04:23:26 AM »
Quote from: "DAG"
Quote from: "Guest"
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They are trying to drive you off on purpose so that parents like you don't share your story.
Mighty presumptuous of you. In your world everyone must have an agenda, I guess. Maybe the trolls think it's funny to push the buttons ofasshole parents in denial. Fucking lousy know-it-alls like you make me wanna puke.

OK. Point taken. Pam, some of these guests are just "losers."


Uhh... I would NOT go there.

These people have different opinions than you, that does not make them losers. You must be pretty high on that bright shiny white horse your daddy bought you to think everyone who disagrees with you are just losers.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Film on Aaron Bacon
« on: December 24, 2008, 12:34:44 AM »
Quote from: "kdfh"
In response to our posts all you do is say "no youre wrong" and add an insult. You are kind of rude. I also read where you tell the mother whose kid died in Youth  Care to stop whining and making it all about her and her face(Bahahaha haaaa). I'm not sure where your sensitvity arises from, all of a sudden. Are you sure you aren't just "trolling" here? Makes me think.

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Um.... Im surprised you didnt know....?.....

Che is the king of trolls.... (self proclaimed anyway... huh u fuktard?)

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: thanksgiving inside a program
« on: December 23, 2008, 05:52:53 PM »
Quote from: "turtu"
Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0"
Quote from: "psy"
Check out the Thanksgiving dinner at Darrington Academy

That was not Thanksgiving dinner, that was a fear factor thing. (as Ive been told by the source of those photos) look in the background... is there any thanksgiving decor?.... The notion that this is a Thanksgiving dinner is a complete fabrication, so I just need to set the record straight to avoid any legal issues. This is a sick and twisted game that can be "played" in order to earn points and levels however it is optional and no one is forced to eat this. I can say that there are more disturbing things like this going on at Darrington Academy, however I wont speculate on these things. I'm hoping that a Darrington survivor will soon come forward and let us know what really goes down in Blue Ridge, Georgia.

I think debasing yourself and your body so you can earn "points" whose tally will supposedly decide whether you can leave captivity is pretty sick, all by itself.

Oh AGREED! Just the fact that these things exist... ugh. ::puke::

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: thanksgiving inside a program
« on: December 23, 2008, 04:49:24 PM »
Quote from: "psy"
Check out the Thanksgiving dinner at Darrington Academy

That was not Thanksgiving dinner, that was a fear factor thing. (as Ive been told by the source of those photos) look in the background... is there any thanksgiving decor?.... The notion that this is a Thanksgiving dinner is a complete fabrication, so I just need to set the record straight to avoid any legal issues. This is a sick and twisted game that can be "played" in order to earn points and levels however it is optional and no one is forced to eat this. I can say that there are more disturbing things like this going on at Darrington Academy, however I wont speculate on these things. I'm hoping that a Darrington survivor will soon come forward and let us know what really goes down in Blue Ridge, Georgia.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Film on Aaron Bacon
« on: December 23, 2008, 04:45:00 PM »
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0"
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0"
HOWEVER I do not agree with the excuse that ALL parents are conned.

We both agree.
Pleasure doing business with you.

lol ok.

but your still an asshole.

Better an asshole than an _______________ . i was going to say Idiot, but I'll let you fill in the blank with whatever suits your fancy. i just don't have it in me to crush your illusions.

The funniest thing about this statement is that you are actually implying that I am less intelligent than you. Which I'm not even going to get into your past employment or education history lol. But I challenge you to consider one thing. When a parent "loves" their child, and through their infinite wisdom diagnose their child as "In need of help" do they seek out a professional, safe practicing, state licensed program? or do they just go with the first private program that agrees to take their child without a preliminary diagnosis? These parents are so sure that they are right about how screwed up their kids are they will ship their kids out to the first place that agrees with them before they (the program) have even seen the child. The fact that none of these programs have a proper admissions process, boast credentials or a system designed to fit the needs of all the kids' individual problems would be more than enough for me to realize that this could potentially be bad placement for a child. Here's what I mean, If Mr and Mrs Bacon thought their son truly had a drug problem ( ::) ) then they should have been looking for a rehab not a wilderness program. But instead these parents find a school that just lists any number of adolescent problems and say that their "tough love" system can cure them all. I'm sorry but that sounds just about as legit as a TJ hooker. Unfortunately these private torture camps are the only "programs" that are willing to kidnap the child, hold him against his will and treat him so badly that he will come home grateful. And contrary to popular belief this is EXACTLY what these parents are looking for, not "help" out of "love". Unfortunately in Aaron Bacon's case he did not come home grateful, He did not come home at all.

I may have sympathy for Mr and Mrs Bacon, they lost a child and they partially have themselves to blame for that, living with that guilt must tear them apart everyday, and for that I can only wish them solace. Lets hope they don't read this. But until the Bacon's choose to acknowledge the unnecessary hysteria that drove them to even look for a program for their kids, and furthermore explain to parents that things like weed smoking is normal teenage behavior, I wont discount my theory. I don't doubt that these parents love their children, I think pretty much all parents love their children, but I don't think it is "love" that these parents are acting out of when they seek out a program.

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