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The Troubled Teen Industry / Martin Lee Anderson Trial
« on: October 16, 2007, 02:03:31 PM »

Part one

The Troubled Teen Industry / How to save a life
« on: October 14, 2007, 01:29:46 PM »
"How to Save a Life" is an alternative rock song by Colorado-based rock band The Fray. It is the title track from their debut album. It was the follow-up single to the top 10 hit "Over My Head (Cable Car)" and peaked in the top 3 of the Billboard Hot 100 chart in the United States. The song has sold over 1,000,000 downloads, and has been certified Platinum by the RIAA. It is the band's highest-charting song to date, topping the Adult Top 40 chart for 15 consecutive weeks and topping the Canadian Airplay Chart.

According to lead singer and songwriter Isaac Slade, the song was composed and influenced by his experience while working as a mentor at a camp for troubled teens: "One of the kids I was paired up with was a musician. Here I was, a protected suburbanite, and he was just 17 and had all these problems. And no one could write a manual on how to save him."

Slade claims that the song is about all of the people that tried to reach out to the boy but were unsuccessful. As Slade says in an interview, his friends and family approached him by saying, "Quit [the problem behavior] or I won't talk to you again," but all he needed was some support.

The verses of the song describe an attempt by an adult to confront a troubled teen. In the chorus, the singer laments that he himself was unable to save a friend because he did not know how  :(

The Troubled Teen Industry / Even after release, this kid's not safe
« on: September 05, 2007, 02:31:26 PM »
A 38-year-old counselor from a group home for troubled youths has been arrested on rape and other charges in connection with his actions involving a 16-year-old former resident of the home, Town of Tonawanda police said.

David Clayton, of Northview Drive in Lockport, a counselor at Wyndham Lawn, was charged with third-degree rape, criminal sexual act and endangering the welfare of a child, according to police.

The investigation began early today, after Officer John Oddo stopped Clayton's vehicle on traffic charges after it had left a Niagara Falls Boulevard motel at about 2:55 a.m. Police later learned that his 16-year-old passenger had been discharged from the facility last month.

Further investigation, police said, led to the criminal charges against Clayton ... 3884.story

"We are shocked and extremely concerned that a member of our staff has been charged in connection with his actions involving a child," the Wyndham Lawn statement said.

Why so shocked? It happens all the time!!

The Troubled Teen Industry / Lichfield in LawSuit
« on: September 05, 2007, 02:26:35 PM »
What? In Utah?

Can't be!!  :evil: ... 06-20.html

The Troubled Teen Industry / Disturbing behaviour
« on: May 09, 2007, 08:17:00 PM »
I just watched this movie....... :o  scary scary scary - the last line of the behavioural teacher was "There'll always be more troubled teens" when he was told it was over. ... _OXdTBwQ--

The Troubled Teen Industry / Am Watching T.V.
« on: April 11, 2007, 04:04:04 PM »
There is a program on about WellSpring

The presenter is saying "At WellSpring, they never force anyone to do anything, because they believe it will make the kids resent exercise"

Next thing this child is refusing to go on the trail saying she is on strike, so they draft in 'Jed' who says "Ok time for some tough love" he then shouts at her that she will get up at 6am and do the trail.....she's arguing it out at the moment, oh and another kid who is about 20 stone can't go on as he has a sore foot (claims to have) but he's changed his mind all of a sudden - why? How did his sore foot go away like that

Oh hang on, both kids have been left behind LMAO!! Bastards, they are up a freakin' mountain!!
The kids won't see the group for 3 days and have to clean up the camp - they aren't happy kids.

Jed says he can't be too strict as the girl might rebel, and the boy is sensitive .....O.......K......

Right and now the pep talk, how the whole group are divided between being whimps or warriors (wtf?) and the kids that went on the trail, should be proud of themselves

Just thought I'd disuss this with you as we don't have camps here & it's a bit weird to say the least

The Troubled Teen Industry / I need advise
« on: April 09, 2007, 07:42:20 PM »
Guys and gals, I need your advice ...

Things are still going really well at home, the boys are still out of trouble and I've not had any complaints or police knocking at the door, however .....

I was out in the garden today and I found a homemade bong hidden behind a pot plant - I know it's not the 19 year olds as he is really anti pot, he's had some very bad experiences from when he snmoked it as a young teen and is still suffering to this day, he has spoken to his younger brothers about this and went completely beserk about it when I found the bong, although understands that going mad at them is not a good idea.

I'm really freaked out by it as I'm 99% sure its my 14 year old, I have armed the younger two with every bit of information on what could happen through smoking it later on in their lives, they know pretty much everything, they also know that weed pretty much led to my own brother's very early death - the thing is, we had this episode some time back and I really thought they understood how it could ruin their lives later on, we have an obvious genetic mental instability problem in the family and I am extremely worried for them, all of the boys who have smoked weed in any shape or form have ended up very ill mentally & as I've said, my brother ended up dead.

What do I do? How do I approach this? Smoking out of a bong at their ages is a bit heavy dontcha think? I did talk with my 14 year old a couple fo weeks back as I knew he was stoned but he is denying it, although he knows I am well aware - I don't want to lose my grip and flip out on him through fear, I know that is not the way to go about it, so what is?

The Troubled Teen Industry / TB from the mouth of babes
« on: January 04, 2007, 06:27:47 PM »
Eeeek  :o

Don't read if you're squeamish or suffer insomnia already.....

The last post will be interesting to some of you

The Troubled Teen Industry / Bringing TB to the UK or vice versa?
« on: December 25, 2006, 06:58:33 PM »
Christ  :o

Please people, believe me when I say social services are extremely stupid, badly run, disorganised and this would be the dream answer to 'how to deal with kids who have been allowed to behave like thugs'  also bear in mind, the average social worker is aged around 20 years old. *sarcasm intended*
It's scary that the British youth are really out of control due to their 'rights' and the fines and arresting of adults who dare challenge these kids' bad behaviour, more scary that is that this would, in 99% of cases be the 'answer', because we as a nation don't know what to do with the out of control youth we have created, I can see the government taking this as a deal not to be missed rather than admit their own stupid rules didn't work.

So Kay has been in a dilemma. His business is expanding, and he is turning his attention to the UK, for he believes there is a large untapped market of British parents who would ship their children straight off to Jamaica if only they knew about Tranquility. The British government, too, he hopes, might send him children in its care. 'If social services was interested, at $2,400 a month I bet they can't offer our services for that. (NO they can't you piece of shit & you know it) :flame: 'What happens inside Tranquility would be illegal on British soil, but the facility falls under Jamaican jurisdiction and parents here are as free as Americans to send their children where they like. A spokesman for the Children's Legal Centre in the UK confirmed, 'I can't see anything in the law that would stop a British parent from sending their child there. It is appalling, but it is down to the Jamaican government.' And what incentive have the island's authorities to intervene? National attitudes to child care are not famously progressive, Jamaican children aren't involved and Tranquility is a major employer generating tax revenue. It's easy to see why Wwasp locates facilities abroad in developing countries.

Watch this space, it won't be the choice of the parents before long, it'll be the choice of the social services and there will be nothing the parents can do about it

The rest of the article (grim grim grim) ......

The Troubled Teen Industry / social experiment
« on: December 16, 2006, 06:51:56 PM »
This is a bit weird, but interesting in a way, what do you make of it?

Is it cruel? Unnecessary? Enlightening? Sick?

Sorry if it's in the wrong place but I find it a bit abusive  :-?

The Troubled Teen Industry / SUWs Interview commentary thread.
« on: December 13, 2006, 07:16:36 PM »
Who conducted the interview?

And how did they know they weren't talking to a member of staff from a program?

The Troubled Teen Industry / I can Identify...
« on: December 08, 2006, 10:56:21 AM »
My boys do this every year and yes it makes me really sad when I've tried to provide a nice Xmas for them, but calling the police???

What I do identify with is this
"I'm trying to get him some kind of help," the 27-year-old mother told the paper. "He's the type of kid who doesn't believe anything until it happens."

She said he has shoplifted, stolen money from her, punched a police officer and is nearing expulsion from school. She told the paper that she hopes this arrest will be a wake-up call for her son, because she worries about getting a call someday telling her he's been killed.

Child Arrested After Opening Holiday Gift Early
December 5, 2006
What is the penalty for opening your Christmas presents too early?

For one South Carolina 12-year-old, the penalty was arrest.

A Rock Hill, S.C., woman called police and asked them to arrest her son who opened a Christmas present early after being told not to, the Rock Hill Herald reported. Police went to the house and arrested the boy and charged him with petty larceny.

The paper reported that the boy's great-grandmother had specifically told him not to open his present, which contained a Nintendo Game Boy Advance. It was wrapped and lying under the Christmas tree, the police report stated.

But on Sunday morning, the gift was unwrapped and the box was empty. So when the boy's mother found out, she alerted police, the paper reported.

"He took it without permission. He wanted it. He just took it," the 63-year-old great-grandmother told the Herald.

The women said that the boy lied to them at first, saying he was unaware of where the video game system was. After threat of calling the police, the boy apparently gave the toy back to his mother, the paper reported. But the upset mother called police anyway.

Two officers responded and charged the child as a juvenile with petty larceny, although he was not jailed.

The mother told the Herald that she didn't know what else to do with her son, so she called police. The paper reported she is a single mother and has been struggling with constant behavior problems from the boy. She said her son still showed no remorse when the police came.

"I'm trying to get him some kind of help," the 27-year-old mother told the paper. "He's the type of kid who doesn't believe anything until it happens."

She said he has shoplifted, stolen money from her, punched a police officer and is nearing expulsion from school. She told the paper that she hopes this arrest will be a wake-up call for her son, because she worries about getting a call someday telling her he's been killed.

The mother plans to have her son placed with the state Department of Juvenile Justice in Columbia at his court appearance, the Herald reported.

The survey results are interesting

The Troubled Teen Industry / What the hell???
« on: December 07, 2006, 10:03:51 AM »
Good Lord!!

People actually think that because they could have been worse off their abuse isn't as relevant as anyone elses??

That's incredibly sad, i agree 100% with everything you've said, my own experiences aa child were pretty horrific but they could have been a hell of alot worse, I know several ppl for who it was worse, but it doesn't make what happened with me okay at all, I can only echo what you say, abuse, no matter in what form, is never okay!

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