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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Hyde Schools => Topic started by: katfish on July 01, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
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please check for link coming next week for survey on the industry
http://www.myspace.com/cafety (http://www.myspace.com/cafety)
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On 2006-07-01 17:08:00, katfish wrote:
"please check for link coming next week for survey on the industry
http://www.myspace.com/cafety (http://www.myspace.com/cafety) "
Fantastic! Way to go!! It is about time all of us gather together to stop this unregulated abuse of kids. Whether it is physical abuse or mental abuse, there are long lasting effects from places like Hyde. Thank you for starting the blog on MySpace.
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On 2006-07-01 18:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-01 17:08:00, katfish wrote:
"please check for link coming next week for survey on the industry
http://www.myspace.com/cafety (http://www.myspace.com/cafety) "
Fantastic! Way to go!! It is about time all of us gather together to stop this unregulated abuse of kids. Whether it is physical abuse or mental abuse, there are long lasting effects from places like Hyde. Thank you for starting the blog on MySpace. "
Sure thing- please help spread the word. It's very exciting!!!
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On 2006-07-01 17:08:00, katfish wrote:
"please check for link coming next week for survey on the industry
http://www.myspace.com/cafety (http://www.myspace.com/cafety) "
PARENTS, please take note of this website, http://www.myspace.com/cafety (http://www.myspace.com/cafety). It gives the best description of boarding schools I have ever seen. If you read this you will not want to waste your money on "schools" like Hyde. They are not regulated by the state or any government agency which makes them dangerous!!
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Right on! Another place for the irresponsible misfits of the world to unite and blame everyone but themselves for all the unfairness cast upon them by society. It's not their fault in any way after all,they are just the victims...
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On 2006-07-03 07:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Right on! Another place for the irresponsible misfits of the world to unite and blame everyone but themselves for all the unfairness cast upon them by society. It's not their fault in any way after all,they are just the victims..."
The purpose of the website is to ask the government to have something in place to insure the safety of our kids in unregulated boarding schools. This is mandatory in public schools, why would this be bad for the private sector. There are many unregulated schools where horrible crimes are committed against kids. Grant it, many of these programs have worse abuses than Hyde, but why not take the necessary steps to keep all schools and programs safe? Without rules, these programs regulate themselves and from what I am reading on Fornits, there are terrible abuses taking place.Our kids deserve better! I am sure there are ways of teaching "character" with these safety measures in place. This is all that this group is asking for.
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On 2006-07-03 07:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-03 07:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Right on! Another place for the irresponsible misfits of the world to unite and blame everyone but themselves for all the unfairness cast upon them by society. It's not their fault in any way after all,they are just the victims..."
The purpose of the website is to ask the government to have something in place to insure the safety of our kids in unregulated boarding schools. This is mandatory in public schools, why would this be bad for the private sector. There are many unregulated schools where horrible crimes are committed against kids. Grant it, many of these programs have worse abuses than Hyde, but why not take the necessary steps to keep all schools and programs safe? Without rules, these programs regulate themselves and from what I am reading on Fornits, there are terrible abuses taking place.Our kids deserve better! I am sure there are ways of teaching "character" with these safety measures in place. This is all that this group is asking for."
Glad to know there is a group who are trying to change the way boarding schools operate. When it comes to kids, there needs to be rules and regulations in place. Until this is accomplished I would not recommend Hyde to anyone.!
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Do you really think you can legislate these people a soul?
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On 2006-07-03 08:22:00, Milk Gargling Death Penalty wrote:
"Do you really think you can legislate these people a soul?"
No, but at least we can try to make them abide by the same laws public institutions abide by, and if they don't we can then hold them accountable
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On 2006-07-03 07:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Right on! Another place for the irresponsible misfits of the world to unite and blame everyone but themselves for all the unfairness cast upon them by society. It's not their fault in any way after all,they are just the victims..."
yes, I blame hyde. They told me some crap about how I could control my view of life via my attitude. Hyde srewed me up. They threatened my status as a helpless victim. But I am much happier now. I am seeing a professional and I am heavily medicated. Please save children from being told the have a choice in thier destiny. Let them eat prozac.
Hal Dahl
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We can change the world
Rearrange the world
It's dying - if you believe in justice
It's dying - and if you believe in freedom
It's dying - let a man live his own life
It's dying - rules and regulations
Who needs them, open up the door
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On 2006-07-03 11:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-03 07:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Right on! Another place for the irresponsible misfits of the world to unite and blame everyone but themselves for all the unfairness cast upon them by society. It's not their fault in any way after all,they are just the victims..."
yes, I blame hyde. They told me some crap about how I could control my view of life via my attitude. Hyde srewed me up. They threatened my status as a helpless victim. But I am much happier now. I am seeing a professional and I am heavily medicated. Please save children from being told the have a choice in thier destiny. Let them eat prozac.
Hal Dahl"
Yea! Hyde taught me the it was all about perception. Reality doesn't matter. Oh, and by the way-shhhh, don't tell anyone- reality was their perception. Truth is irrelevant so long as it doesn't conform to their, don't you all know! Damn! when in doubt, think happy Hyde thoughts!
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On 2006-07-03 08:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-03 08:22:00, Milk Gargling Death Penalty wrote:
"Do you really think you can legislate these people a soul?"
No, but at least we can try to make them abide by the same laws public institutions abide by, and if they don't we can then hold them accountable"
details details...what's in accountabilty when they effectively determine your reality- hehe
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On 2006-07-03 12:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-03 08:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-03 08:22:00, Milk Gargling Death Penalty wrote:
"Do you really think you can legislate these people a soul?"
No, but at least we can try to make them abide by the same laws public institutions abide by, and if they don't we can then hold them accountable"
details details...what's in accountabilty when they effectively determine your reality- hehe"
In addition to the Myspace.com site, it is important to write letters to Strugglingteens.com. When "googling" Hyde, Fornits does not come up easily, (has to do with no advertisements on Fornits) although comments on Strugglingteens.com does. If you want to have your thoughts read by potential parents, Struggling Teens is the place to do it.
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On 2006-07-04 04:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-03 12:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-03 08:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-03 08:22:00, Milk Gargling Death Penalty wrote:
"Do you really think you can legislate these people a soul?"
No, but at least we can try to make them abide by the same laws public institutions abide by, and if they don't we can then hold them accountable"
details details...what's in accountabilty when they effectively determine your reality- hehe"
In addition to the Myspace.com site, it is important to write letters to Strugglingteens.com. When "googling" Hyde, Fornits does not come up easily, (has to do with no advertisements on Fornits) although comments on Strugglingteens.com does. If you want to have your thoughts read by potential parents, Struggling Teens is the place to do it."
Yes you guys need to post on struggling teens. You guys need to get your slander out on a board where you can be traced and held accountable. Hyde's lawyers need more work.
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Yes you guys need to post on struggling teens. You guys need to get your slander out on a board where you can be traced and held accountable. Hyde's lawyers need more work.
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I'm sorry, what I beleive was meant to be said: Yes you guys need to post on struggling teens. You guys need to get your experience out on a board where they can be traced and Hyde held accountable. Hyde's lawyers need more work.
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On 2006-07-04 05:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Yes you guys need to post on struggling teens. You guys need to get your slander out on a board where you can be traced and held accountable. Hyde's lawyers need more work.
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I'm sorry, what I beleive was meant to be said: Yes you guys need to post on struggling teens. You guys need to get your experience out on a board where they can be traced and Hyde held accountable. Hyde's lawyers need more work."
Whoever wrote the post about "slander" is way off base. There is absolutely nothing wrong with writing about your true experiences at Hyde. Thank goodness we live in a country where there is freedom of speech. The moron who believes there is something illegal about this was probably raised at Hyde where there is censorship, or should I say punishment if you say something that does not conform. You might be put on 2-4 and told that you have an attitude problem. Is this free speech?
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On 2006-07-04 05:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Yes you guys need to post on struggling teens. You guys need to get your slander out on a board where you can be traced and held accountable. Hyde's lawyers need more work.
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I'm sorry, what I beleive was meant to be said: Yes you guys need to post on struggling teens. You guys need to get your experience out on a board where they can be traced and Hyde held accountable. Hyde's lawyers need more work."
Strugglingteens.com is a website where people post their experiences at certain boarding schools, both good and bad. You do not have to fear writing a story that is truthful on a public website. I am sure Hyde's lawyers have plenty of other cases to deal with concerning Hyde!
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Strugglingteens.com is a website where people post their experiences at certain boarding schools, both good and bad.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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On 2006-07-04 05:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
Yes you guys need to post on struggling teens. You guys need to get your slander out on a board where you can be traced and held accountable. Hyde's lawyers need more work.
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What a fucking moron. If there was anything truly slanderous on this site you can bet your life that Hyde's hired guns would be throwing subpeonas at Ginger for the IPs. There ISN'T anything that has been posted here they can disprove so they don't do shit. People from here don't like posting on ST because it's heavily moderated, censored and otherwise fucked with. Fornits may be brutal but at least it's honest.
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Hyde's lawyers don't really care. It's a free country and this site holds very little merit.
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On 2006-07-04 12:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-04 05:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
Yes you guys need to post on struggling teens. You guys need to get your slander out on a board where you can be traced and held accountable. Hyde's lawyers need more work.
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What a fucking moron. If there was anything truly slanderous on this site you can bet your life that Hyde's hired guns would be throwing subpeonas at Ginger for the IPs. There ISN'T anything that has been posted here they can disprove so they don't do shit. People from here don't like posting on ST because it's heavily moderated, censored and otherwise fucked with. Fornits may be brutal but at least it's honest."
Yes, strugglingteens is monitored so that it stays a professional website with appropriate language and information for parents researching boarding schools. If you would write a letter to them without using fowl language and express your feelings and experiences about Hyde in a professional way, they will post it.
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YOU just keep telling yourself that!
WE'LL keep laughing at you!
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On 2006-07-05 10:02:00, Milk Gargling Death Penalty wrote:
"YOU just keep telling yourself that!
WE'LL keep laughing at you!"
Hey,
Grab a screen name on struggling teens and try to post some of the crap posted here and see how long it stays up.
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On 2006-07-05 13:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-05 10:02:00, Milk Gargling Death Penalty wrote:
"YOU just keep telling yourself that!
WE'LL keep laughing at you!"
Hey,
Grab a screen name on struggling teens and try to post some of the crap posted here and see how long it stays up. "
Strugglingteens.com is not going to put a bunch of stupid rambling written by a couple of you. Strugglingteens on the other hand will post well written intelligent stories about Hyde. Big difference. Some of the posts on this board are obviously written well and others are a few kids who are swearing at each other for no apparent reason. The swearing is not going to get you on Strugglingteens.
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Still laughing hard over here.
Why not go to the main troubled teen industry forum and ask them how long their well-written posts lasted on ST?
Hell, why not copy and paste the "good" ones yourself and prove that ST can take a little criticism on its boards?
Lemme know how that works out for you.
(Hint to parents: ST is a shill site. Most of the parents there are completely fictional. It's not a forum like Fornits is at all.)
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On 2006-07-05 17:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-05 13:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-07-05 10:02:00, Milk Gargling Death Penalty wrote:
"YOU just keep telling yourself that!
WE'LL keep laughing at you!"
Hey,
Grab a screen name on struggling teens and try to post some of the crap posted here and see how long it stays up. "
Strugglingteens.com is not going to put a bunch of stupid rambling written by a couple of you. Strugglingteens on the other hand will post well written intelligent stories about Hyde. Big difference. Some of the posts on this board are obviously written well and others are a few kids who are swearing at each other for no apparent reason. The swearing is not going to get you on Strugglingteens."
I have read some of the postings on the http://www.strugglingteens.com (http://www.strugglingteens.com) website. Most are well written and very credible. I've seen comments both "pro" and "con," especially in the letters to the editor department. That seems to be a good place to share views about Hyde.
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What a laugh! Strugglingteens' rules don't even allow you to even SAY "Hyde" (or the name of any other program).
Don't laugh when you leave this courtroom, thinking you have beat the system because you have looked these things up yourself. We are going to get you down the road.
Washington Superior CourtJudge Rebecca Baker
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On 2006-07-09 17:52:00, tommyfromhyde1 wrote:
"What a laugh! Strugglingteens' rules don't even allow you to even SAY "Hyde" (or the name of any other program).Don't laugh when you leave this courtroom, thinking you have beat the system because you have looked these things up yourself. We are going to get you down the road.
Washington Superior CourtJudge Rebecca Baker
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I just read strugglingteens. There are three letters to the editor about Hyde. Two say positive things but the third is very negative about Hyde. Take a look Tommy.
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The Alliance for the Safe, Therapeutic and Appropriate use of Residential Treatment (A START) is sponsored by the Department of Child and Family Studies of the University of South Florida. The Alliance now includes leaders in psychology, psychiatry, nursing, mental health law, policy and family advocacy, as well as individuals with direct program experience as director, evaluator, parent or participant in such programs.
If anyone is interested in activism for this cause or has experienced any sort of mistreatment, abuse or psychological coercion at these facilities please visit cafety.org or consider sharing your story with Dr. Allison Pinto of USF [email protected]
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On 2006-07-09 18:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
I just read strugglingteens. There are three letters to the editor about Hyde. Two say positive things but the third is very negative about Hyde. Take a look Tommy."
I was talking about ST's message board. Those LTE's are 2 years old and are just the ones that Woodbury CHOSE to post.There are a great many questions concerning The Seed that need to be answered. Both the methods of "obtaining" Seedlings and the method of indoctrination need to be aired so that all can see how close 1984 really is.
John Henninger Attorneys and Counselor at Law, Clearwater, FL
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On 2006-07-10 11:03:00, tommyfromhyde1 wrote:
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On 2006-07-09 18:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
I just read strugglingteens. There are three letters to the editor about Hyde. Two say positive things but the third is very negative about Hyde. Take a look Tommy."
I was talking about ST's message board. Those LTE's are 2 years old and are just the ones that Woodbury CHOSE to post.There are a great many questions concerning The Seed that need to be answered. Both the methods of "obtaining" Seedlings and the method of indoctrination need to be aired so that all can see how close 1984 really is.
John Henninger Attorneys and Counselor at Law, Clearwater, FL
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Does strugglingteens edit posts on the message board? I didn't get the impression they did. I've read some pretty critical stuff about Hyde on that board.
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Here's (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=15194&forum=9&106) what happens when sane people try talking on Struggling Trolls.
So you can stop now.
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Hyde's lawyers don't really care. It's a free country and this site holds very little merit.
yea right... this site was responsible, in part, for jump starting the entire movement to look at these facilities more carefully. the personal is indeed political:
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=39 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=113&Itemid=39)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=35 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=219&Itemid=35)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=39 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=142&Itemid=39)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... 6&Itemid=2 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=206&Itemid=2)
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ed ... 22105.html (http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ed31_democrats/rel122105.html)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=35 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=35)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=35 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=293&Itemid=35)
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=35 (http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=145&Itemid=35)
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What do you mean " these facilities" Hyde is a secondary school, not one of the private lockups your parents sent you to.
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What do you mean " these facilities" Hyde is a secondary school, not one of the private lockups your parents sent you to.
'these facilities" = unregulated troubled teen facilities or... regualted but questionably so...
At least, that' the way the state sees it, as I'm sure do parents since that's how it promotes itself, in part.... incidentally, few facilities actually lock kids up.
LINK here (http://http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:rK8a5nVfzeQJ:www.state.ct.us/SDE/deps/Special/Hearing%2520Decisions/2001/01-109.pdf+%22hyde+school%22+abuse&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8&client=firefox-a)
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Take a close look at this child's history (the one whose parents sued the school district). He has obviously struggled a great deal and has a remarkable history of serious psychiatric and substance abuse issues. He has been treated in many mental health programs. He ends up at the Hyde School where there wasnt't a single mental health professional on staff. Isn't it a problem that Hyde accepts students like this without having professional mental health staff?
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You have a kid that smokes a little dope and tell people to fuck off. Parents send the kid to Hyde. That does not make Hyde a treatment facility. Hyde is an accrediated secondary school, not a treatment facility. Kid like that went to Hyde when I was there along with some very normal kids. Off hand I could name the children of Senators, State governors decendants of people that every school child knows from fourth grade history. They were all quite normal. They were not being treated for anything. People that have no problems do not check them selves into treatmant facilities.
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You have a kid that smokes a little dope and tell people to fuck off. Parents send the kid to Hyde. That does not make Hyde a treatment facility. Hyde is an accrediated secondary school, not a treatment facility. Kid like that went to Hyde when I was there along with some very normal kids. Off hand I could name the children of Senators, State governors decendants of people that every school child knows from fourth grade history. They were all quite normal. They were not being treated for anything. People that have no problems do not check them selves into treatmant facilities.
You're right, Hyde is not a treatment facility. It doesn't believe in offering mental health services. Every kid's problem at Hyde is an "attitude" and "character" problem. Why, then, is Hyde willing to accept an enormous number of kids with incredibly complicated psychiatric histories and challenges? It's a documented fact that Hyde accepts these kids, many of whom then have difficulty staying out of trouble at Hyde. Now, isn't that a surprise? Take a kid with major mental health problems, put him/her in a school that offers no mental health services, impose lots of pressure on the kid with a heavy does of shame and finger pointing (and Joe Gauld's special brand of humiliation), and watch the kid threaten to run away, engage in conflict with staff and other students, get placed on 2-4, use drugs, get sent to out-post, etc. Does that sound like a good model to you? Is this the right way to treat this huge portion of Hyde's student body????
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Worked for me.
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What do you mean " these facilities" Hyde is a secondary school, not one of the private lockups your parents sent you to.
'these facilities" = unregulated troubled teen facilities or... regualted but questionably so...
At least, that' the way the state sees it, as I'm sure do parents since that's how it promotes itself, in part.... incidentally, few facilities actually lock kids up.
LINK here (http://http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:rK8a5nVfzeQJ:www.state.ct.us/SDE/deps/Special/Hearing%2520Decisions/2001/01-109.pdf+%22hyde+school%22+abuse&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8&client=firefox-a)
Secondary School? Are you kidding me? I am not sure what Hyde is but it certainly does not operate like a regular school, and the scholastics are pathetic if not non existent! Had to laugh when I saw something about Laura Gauld graduating with honors. Honors at Hyde is equivalent to Special Ed in a regular school. Now maybe I am exaggerating a little, but seriously Hyde has ruined many kids lives when trying to get back into the regular public school system. I had one friend who tried to get into a private school and the admissions people told her parents that even though Hyde said she was an honor student, she did not have the basic skills for the grade she was in at Hyde.
When I left Hyde and tried to go back to school in my hometown, the public school wanted me to stay back a grade because the courses at Hyde were not accepted by my public school system. Hyde had already kept me back a year so this would mean I would be two years behind. I think it is very important for incoming parents to understand that Hyde's courses might not be accepted in your hometown and can easily mess up future plans unless you plan on staying at Hyde and graduating from Hyde. Going to college is another tough experience after having a Hyde education. Many kids fail their first year in college and drop out because you cannot compare the courses at Hyde to regular schools. Yes there are some kids who might succeed in college after Hyde, but there are plenty more who fail or dropout.
Before enrolling your kids in Hyde, ask how many kids who start Hyde, finish Hyde. Also more importantly ask for stats on how many kids who are accepted to college are still in college after the first year.
Oh yeah, some of you will say it must have been my own fault for failing a grade at Hyde, but for those of you who are not aware, Hyde does not always fail you for bad grades. Hyde fails a student for many other reasons including that they don't think your "attitude" is what they want it to be or because Joe Gauld wants another year of your parents money. Trust me, I am telling the truth here and I think some other kids who went to Hyde will support this.
Hyde has a lot of learning to do and my suggestion to Hyde is to get rid of the old administration and get some new blood in there. Why can they not keep good teachers at Hyde? Why do so many teachers leaving after a year or two?
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What do you mean " these facilities" Hyde is a secondary school, not one of the private lockups your parents sent you to.
'these facilities" = unregulated troubled teen facilities or... regualted but questionably so...
At least, that' the way the state sees it, as I'm sure do parents since that's how it promotes itself, in part.... incidentally, few facilities actually lock kids up.
LINK here (http://http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:rK8a5nVfzeQJ:www.state.ct.us/SDE/deps/Special/Hearing%2520Decisions/2001/01-109.pdf+%22hyde+school%22+abuse&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8&client=firefox-a)
Secondary School? Are you kidding me? I am not sure what Hyde is but it certainly does not operate like a regular school, and the scholastics are pathetic if not non existent! Had to laugh when I saw something about Laura Gauld graduating with honors. Honors at Hyde is equivalent to Special Ed in a regular school. Now maybe I am exaggerating a little, but seriously Hyde has ruined many kids lives when trying to get back into the regular public school system. I had one friend who tried to get into a private school and the admissions people told her parents that even though Hyde said she was an honor student, she did not have the basic skills for the grade she was in at Hyde.
When I left Hyde and tried to go back to school in my hometown, the public school wanted me to stay back a grade because the courses at Hyde were not accepted by my public school system. Hyde had already kept me back a year so this would mean I would be two years behind. I think it is very important for incoming parents to understand that Hyde's courses might not be accepted in your hometown and can easily mess up future plans unless you plan on staying at Hyde and graduating from Hyde. Going to college is another tough experience after having a Hyde education. Many kids fail their first year in college and drop out because you cannot compare the courses at Hyde to regular schools. Yes there are some kids who might succeed in college after Hyde, but there are plenty more who fail or dropout.
Before enrolling your kids in Hyde, ask how many kids who start Hyde, finish Hyde. Also more importantly ask for stats on how many kids who are accepted to college are still in college after the first year.
Oh yeah, some of you will say it must have been my own fault for failing a grade at Hyde, but for those of you who are not aware, Hyde does not always fail you for bad grades. Hyde fails a student for many other reasons including that they don't think your "attitude" is what they want it to be or because Joe Gauld wants another year of your parents money. Trust me, I am telling the truth here and I think some other kids who went to Hyde will support this.
Hyde has a lot of learning to do and my suggestion to Hyde is to get rid of the old administration and get some new blood in there. Why can they not keep good teachers at Hyde? Why do so many teachers leaving after a year or two?
I hope you have had a good experience since Hyde. Like you, I had a horrible experience at Hyde. The education was real weak and most of the teachers would have a real hard time getting a job at a regular school. My impression was that most of the Hyde staff were pretty troubled people themselves.
I was also upset that so many of the students had serious emotional and mental health problems and I didn't think they were getting the help they needed. All the 2-4's and 5:30's in the world aren't going to help a student who's having a hard time because she was molested as a kid and is real depressed, or a kid who has a serious drug problem and has a serious anxiety problem. Now that I've been out of Hyde for a couple of years I have a much clearer understanding of what a bad environment it is for so many students. I hope parents learn that about Hyde before they send their kid there.
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I graduated magna cum from the engineering school at one of the top ten public universities in the US. This would not have been possible had I not attended Hyde.
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I graduated magna cum from the engineering school at one of the top ten public universities in the US. This would not have been possible had I not attended Hyde.
That's great that Hyde worked for you. Based on my extensive experience with Hyde, only a minority of students have this kind of good outcome. Based on the high drop-out rate from Hyde (people who leave in disgust, drop out, run away, look for better alternatives) and the small percentage of people who actually start Hyde and graduate from the school, your path is truly the exception. I'm happy for you, but I wouldn't dare conclude that your experience is anything close to typical at Hyde.
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Your mom got some magna cum.
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You have a kid that smokes a little dope and tell people to fuck off. Parents send the kid to Hyde. That does not make Hyde a treatment facility.
That's exactly the level of "addiction" that most people who get sent to "treatment" are at BTW.
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Your mom got some magna cum.
Yes my Dad was good in that area. Thanks for pointing that out.
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I graduated magna cum from the engineering school at one of the top ten public universities in the US. This would not have been possible had I not attended Hyde.
That's great that Hyde worked for you. Based on my extensive experience with Hyde, only a minority of students have this kind of good outcome. Based on the high drop-out rate from Hyde (people who leave in disgust, drop out, run away, look for better alternatives) and the small percentage of people who actually start Hyde and graduate from the school, your path is truly the exception. I'm happy for you, but I wouldn't dare conclude that your experience is anything close to typical at Hyde.
I would grant you that my experience is a minority one based on total enrollement. It is however not the exception but rather the rule for the majority that are able to complete Hyde. Hyde is not a cake walk and like every rose, it does have its thorns.
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You have a kid that smokes a little dope and tell people to fuck off. Parents send the kid to Hyde. That does not make Hyde a treatment facility.
That's exactly the level of "addiction" that most people who get sent to "treatment" are at BTW.
It would be instructive to point out that the kid we are discussing had a positive out come from attendance at hyde.
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What do you mean " these facilities" Hyde is a secondary school, not one of the private lockups your parents sent you to.
You are correct. Hyde doesn't lock people up. They use the "toughlove" extortion - parents are told to throw their kid out on the street if they don't like Hyde.
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I graduated magna cum from the engineering school at one of the top ten public universities in the US. This would not have been possible had I not attended Hyde.
That's great that Hyde worked for you. Based on my extensive experience with Hyde, only a minority of students have this kind of good outcome. Based on the high drop-out rate from Hyde (people who leave in disgust, drop out, run away, look for better alternatives) and the small percentage of people who actually start Hyde and graduate from the school, your path is truly the exception. I'm happy for you, but I wouldn't dare conclude that your experience is anything close to typical at Hyde.
I would grant you that my experience is a minority one based on total enrollement. It is however not the exception but rather the rule for the majority that are able to complete Hyde. Hyde is not a cake walk and like every rose, it does have its thorns.
TOTALLY FALSE STATEMENT! If you did graduate Hyde then you sir are not a success as you know you are not telling the truth. The above is a complete lie. This poster knows that very few students who graduate Hyde are accepted to top colleges no less able to graduate and become successful. Look around you at Hyde. The entire Gauld/Hurd/Grant/MacMillan Family all graduated Hyde. There is Pam Bertchy, Donna Dubinsky and her pervert husband who was fired. All graduated Hyde. Do you call these successes? They haven't once raised the bar for themselves and tried to exist in the real world outside of Hyde. They are stuck there because they don't know any other way in life other than Hyde. Many of the staff members are former Hyde students. Why would so many successful kids who graduated college take a $20,000 a year job to live in a dorm and have their meals in a cafeteria? Very simple reason why. These kids were not truly helped by Hyde which is why they are right back where they started. Hate to say what has already been said so many times before, but Hyde does seem to be a Cult.
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I graduated magna cum from the engineering school at one of the top ten public universities in the US. This would not have been possible had I not attended Hyde.
That's great that Hyde worked for you. Based on my extensive experience with Hyde, only a minority of students have this kind of good outcome. Based on the high drop-out rate from Hyde (people who leave in disgust, drop out, run away, look for better alternatives) and the small percentage of people who actually start Hyde and graduate from the school, your path is truly the exception. I'm happy for you, but I wouldn't dare conclude that your experience is anything close to typical at Hyde.
I would grant you that my experience is a minority one based on total enrollement. It is however not the exception but rather the rule for the majority that are able to complete Hyde. Hyde is not a cake walk and like every rose, it does have its thorns.
TOTALLY FALSE STATEMENT! If you did graduate Hyde then you sir are not a success as you know you are not telling the truth. The above is a complete lie. This poster knows that very few students who graduate Hyde are accepted to top colleges no less able to graduate and become successful. Look around you at Hyde. The entire Gauld/Hurd/Grant/MacMillan Family all graduated Hyde. There is Pam Bertchy, Donna Dubinsky and her pervert husband who was fired. All graduated Hyde. Do you call these successes? They haven't once raised the bar for themselves and tried to exist in the real world outside of Hyde. They are stuck there because they don't know any other way in life other than Hyde. Many of the staff members are former Hyde students. Why would so many successful kids who graduated college take a $20,000 a year job to live in a dorm and have their meals in a cafeteria? Very simple reason why. These kids were not truly helped by Hyde which is why they are right back where they started. Hate to say what has already been said so many times before, but Hyde does seem to be a Cult.
Thank you for your frank and honest reply, I do not how ever agree with your _opinion_.
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I would love to know who wrote the "Totally False Statement" paragraph...because you need some therapy, girl!
Hyde must have REALLY fucked you up!
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I would love to know who wrote the "Totally False Statement" paragraph...because you need some therapy, girl!
Hyde must have REALLY fucked you up!
I don't think hyde did it. There is some displacemnt going on: externalize personal issues into a past enviroment, so you don't have to deal with them.
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I would love to know who wrote the "Totally False Statement" paragraph...because you need some therapy, girl!
Hyde must have REALLY fucked you up!
Wrong once again. Last time I checked I did not have female organs, but think what you may! Please prove that anything I said is false. Tell me which one of the faculty members who were graduates of Hyde took a real job in the community and became successful at it? Which one of the Gaulds/Hurds/Grants/McMillans raised the bar for themselves?
As far as Hyde messing me up, thank you to my parents for getting me out of there before permanent damage. "If the shoe fits, wear it." Did I strike a nerve with one of you? What have you done in your life other than "hide at Hyde?"
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I would love to know who wrote the "Totally False Statement" paragraph...because you need some therapy, girl!
Hyde must have REALLY fucked you up!
I agree that this person is being very honest in their assessment of Hyde's faculty. There certainly are a few good and dedicated faculty, but the ones who have been there for years do seem to have some serious issues they are dealing with.
Question is how can Hyde improve? Seems that most people believe that a change of the guard is in order. Maybe the Board of Directors should pay attention to this site.
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I would love to know who wrote the "Totally False Statement" paragraph...because you need some therapy, girl!
Hyde must have REALLY fucked you up!
Wrong once again. Last time I checked I did not have female organs, but think what you may! Please prove that anything I said is false. Tell me which one of the faculty members who were graduates of Hyde took a real job in the community and became successful at it? Which one of the Gaulds/Hurds/Grants/McMillans raised the bar for themselves?
As far as Hyde messing me up, thank you to my parents for getting me out of there before permanent damage. "If the shoe fits, wear it." Did I strike a nerve with one of you? What have you done in your life other than "hide at Hyde?"
Please prove that JFK is really dead and not living in Peru with Adolf Hitler.
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Please prove that JFK is really dead and not living in Peru with Adolf Hitler.
:roll: No silly. You are the one stating that these people are successful and are that way as a result of Hyde. We're asking for proof of that. No one here claimed that JFK is living in Peru with Hitler. You make a claim, prepare to be challenged on it.
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Please prove that JFK is really dead and not living in Peru with Adolf Hitler.
:roll: No silly. You are the one stating that these people are successful and are that way as a result of Hyde. We're asking for proof of that. No one here claimed that JFK is living in Peru with Hitler. You make a claim, prepare to be challenged on it.
Yes, please give us examples of the Hyde staff and owners doing something with their lives besides being completely subsidized by Hyde. The only thing they have ever had to buy for their family was clothing. Everything else is taken care of by Hyde ie housing, food, insurance, transportation........
You come back with these smart ass answers because you don't have a truthful answer for us. The truth is that Hyde's owners and staff who have gone through Hyde, have not grown that much in all these years!
Bottom line is that you cannot prove that Hyde helps other than on a temporary basis.
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Please prove that JFK is really dead and not living in Peru with Adolf Hitler.
:roll: No silly. You are the one stating that these people are successful and are that way as a result of Hyde. We're asking for proof of that. No one here claimed that JFK is living in Peru with Hitler. You make a claim, prepare to be challenged on it.
Actually it was claimed a couple of years ago that JFK and Adolf were roomies in the Andes. Robert Wilson makes a similar point in one of his amusing books. He challenges the reader to prove that John Dillenger is dead. It is a point that can not be proved, at least not rhetorically. My point is similar. Sorry you did not get that. I will try and fly a little lower for you in the future.
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Please prove that JFK is really dead and not living in Peru with Adolf Hitler.
:roll: No silly. You are the one stating that these people are successful and are that way as a result of Hyde. We're asking for proof of that. No one here claimed that JFK is living in Peru with Hitler. You make a claim, prepare to be challenged on it.
Actually it was claimed a couple of years ago that JFK and Adolf were roomies in the Andes. Robert Wilson makes a similar point in one of his amusing books. He challenges the reader to prove that John Dillenger is dead. It is a point that can not be proved, at least not rhetorically. My point is similar. Sorry you did not get that. I will try and fly a little lower for you in the future.
It's quite obvious that you are an arrogant person who believes he is superior to the rest of us. You make statements and if you don't have a good answer for them, you come back with your stupid comments. Put up or shut up, we are not impressed!
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Please prove that JFK is really dead and not living in Peru with Adolf Hitler.
:roll: No silly. You are the one stating that these people are successful and are that way as a result of Hyde. We're asking for proof of that. No one here claimed that JFK is living in Peru with Hitler. You make a claim, prepare to be challenged on it.
Actually it was claimed a couple of years ago that JFK and Adolf were roomies in the Andes. Robert Wilson makes a similar point in one of his amusing books. He challenges the reader to prove that John Dillenger is dead. It is a point that can not be proved, at least not rhetorically. My point is similar. Sorry you did not get that. I will try and fly a little lower for you in the future.
It's quite obvious that you are an arrogant person who believes he is superior to the rest of us. You make statements and if you don't have a good answer for them, you come back with your stupid comments. Put up or shut up, we are not impressed!
"we"? What are you, the spokemodel for Hyde drop outs?
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Please prove that JFK is really dead and not living in Peru with Adolf Hitler.
:roll: No silly. You are the one stating that these people are successful and are that way as a result of Hyde. We're asking for proof of that. No one here claimed that JFK is living in Peru with Hitler. You make a claim, prepare to be challenged on it.
Actually it was claimed a couple of years ago that JFK and Adolf were roomies in the Andes. Robert Wilson makes a similar point in one of his amusing books. He challenges the reader to prove that John Dillenger is dead. It is a point that can not be proved, at least not rhetorically. My point is similar. Sorry you did not get that. I will try and fly a little lower for you in the future.
It's quite obvious that you are an arrogant person who believes he is superior to the rest of us. You make statements and if you don't have a good answer for them, you come back with your stupid comments. Put up or shut up, we are not impressed!
"we"? What are you, the spokemodel for Hyde drop outs?
No, I am a Hyde graduate who sees the flaws at Hyde and am journaling about it. Unlike Hyde's false claims on their marketing materials, I am trying to be honest about what I saw at Hyde while a student there. What is your motive? Are you a former student? Staff?
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Please prove that JFK is really dead and not living in Peru with Adolf Hitler.
:roll: No silly. You are the one stating that these people are successful and are that way as a result of Hyde. We're asking for proof of that. No one here claimed that JFK is living in Peru with Hitler. You make a claim, prepare to be challenged on it.
Actually it was claimed a couple of years ago that JFK and Adolf were roomies in the Andes. Robert Wilson makes a similar point in one of his amusing books. He challenges the reader to prove that John Dillenger is dead. It is a point that can not be proved, at least not rhetorically. My point is similar. Sorry you did not get that. I will try and fly a little lower for you in the future.
It's quite obvious that you are an arrogant person who believes he is superior to the rest of us. You make statements and if you don't have a good answer for them, you come back with your stupid comments. Put up or shut up, we are not impressed!
"we"? What are you, the spokemodel for Hyde drop outs?
No, I am a Hyde graduate who sees the flaws at Hyde and am journaling about it. Unlike Hyde's false claims on their marketing materials, I am trying to be honest about what I saw at Hyde while a student there. What is your motive? Are you a former student? Staff?
You see the flaws. What are the strengths?
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the strength is that people are finally on to their game :-?
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Thought this was worth repeating......
This poster knows that very few students who graduate Hyde are accepted to top colleges no less able to graduate and become successful. Look around you at Hyde. The entire Gauld/Hurd/Grant/MacMillan Family all graduated Hyde. There is Pam Bertchy, Donna Dubinsky and her husband Larry who was fired. All graduated Hyde. Do you call these successes? They haven't once raised the bar for themselves and tried to exist in the real world outside of Hyde. They are stuck there because they don't know any other way in life other than Hyde. Many of the staff members are former Hyde students. Why would so many successful kids who graduated college take a $20,000 a year job to live in a dorm and have their meals in a cafeteria? Very simple reason why. These kids were not truly helped by Hyde which is why they are right back where they started. Hate to say what has already been said so many times before, but Hyde does seem to be a Cult.
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You are right about Hyde's success rate. I saw a very slim part of my class who started with me, graduate. Many of my classmates who graduated never did go to college and some never made it through. Keep in mind I am not in touch with everyone I graduated with, but the ones I have heard about didn't do much with their lives.
I kind of wondered when I was at Hyde why the good teachers never stayed. It is the same handful of staff that live there for years and years, but most of the good ones left after a short time. One of the female staff told me that she got the heck away from that place as soon as she caught onto how sick the administration is. She said that there was a lot of voyerism. Said she was pushed and pushed about talking about her sex life with her boyfriend and when she didn't talk about it in group they told her she was off track.
Does anyone else know why Hyde can't keep good teachers?
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You are right about Hyde's success rate. I saw a very slim part of my class who started with me, graduate. Many of my classmates who graduated never did go to college and some never made it through. Keep in mind I am not in touch with everyone I graduated with, but the ones I have heard about didn't do much with their lives.
I kind of wondered when I was at Hyde why the good teachers never stayed. It is the same handful of staff that live there for years and years, but most of the good ones left after a short time. One of the female staff told me that she got the heck away from that place as soon as she caught onto how sick the administration is. She said that there was a lot of voyerism. Said she was pushed and pushed about talking about her sex life with her boyfriend and when she didn't talk about it in group they told her she was off track.
Does anyone else know why Hyde can't keep good teachers?
Based on my experience with Hyde over the past couple of years, the reason many good teachers leave is very clear: After a few months they begin to understand what a strange, twisted place Hyde is, how much incest there is, and how you either have to "buy in" completely and accept the brainwashing or pack your bags and leave for a more sane place. Every single mature staff person I met decided to leave. For the most part, the ones that stayed are emotionally dependent on the Hyde "crutch." The people who stay at Hyde are the people who feed off of the Gauld mythology. I'm not sure they could survive away from the mother ship.
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Bravo!!! Very well said!!
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