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I should also say that I witnessed Wayne wrestling with Emily.  He was unaware that I was approaching from behind as he instructed her to place her hands on his body.  

I went to Roundy, responding to an emergency call, the very same night I turned my sexual abuse report into the office.  At 10 pm, Christin (female) was in her pajamas, lying on a rain-soaked, cold (58 degrees) ground, duct taped at the ankles and the wrists.  

Where is Christin's mom who is seeking more information on her daughter's treatment?  I've heard that she's pursuing it.  Neither my husband or I were interviewed by the Sheriff's Office and we should have been.  We were there.

Aspen Education (owns TAR) covers up all incidents.  They're a major player on the national scene and buying up facility after facility.  It's time to expose them and this whole horendous industry.

Dirty Secrets and Business Ties -- a good name for a story, don't you think?

What was your experience like?  Good, bad??  I heard that the Loa facility had a bunch of drunks running it and they fired everyone and started over.  Please do let me know what you think of it.  You were there.  You can email me at:

[email protected]

Sometimes email does not work very well, you know all of the interference these days!

Toni

So, how do you feel today about your experiences with Aspen?  Seems like everyone counters me and my problems in trying to work for them as necessary evils 'cause the kids need help.  I'm looking for any abuse since 3 responsible agencies have closed the case without so much as any investigation.  I want to hang the state, Aspen, and the Sheriff's office.  I live in southern Utah, although not in Loa where the Aspen Achievement Academy is located.

That's why you only talk to God from within and learn to listen to God through energies in the body, good/bad feelings, and doors that open and close.

Why would ya want to be in a cult where you're told exactly what to think, believe and do when you have a one-on-one connection already to God.  All ya have to do is use it.

Oops, thought I was logging in, not posting.  Why?  What was wrong with your experience?  I mean, I personally would have a problem just sending a son or daughter away for an extended stay to place or with peole that I knew nothing about.  

I was always the neighborhood mom (I say was 'cause my kid's now 22) where all of the kids hung out.  I wanted it that way so I could watch over 'em and be involved.  One kid spent so much time with our family that he stayed for 3 days at our house without his mom ever calling or him calling her.  I thought I'd just wait and see . . . So, it'd be very difficult for me to send my kid off to someone I don't even know.

I don't understand this attitude in parents.  They must be involved at least 'til age 18.  It is a lot of work, that's for sure, and it doesn't end at 5 pm.  It's day and night, whatever it takes.  It's setting morals and standards in the kids, but also walking their talk as role models.

I think in many, many instances a better situation would be where the parents and the child go to a neat vacation-type remote setting, but work on their problems together (without cell phones, X boxes, TV, you know what I mean).  At least, my heart went out to many of the kids that I worked with.  Their lives have been very sad.

Now here this, I'll say this up front.  I'm not religious at all, I am very spiritual 'cause one night in the '80s with a 4-year-old child I said a prayer that I would do whatever it took to stop the haz waste burning near our home.  

I had never been an activist, but I went to the first public meeting and I signed up to be a volunteer.  The next week, out of several hundred volunteers, the new group fighting the haz waste called and asked me to be on their board of directors.  I remembered my pray, thought, 'geez, I did say the prayer.' and accepted the work.  We won.  We also exposed a huge facility almost completed outside of Phx, illegal state bids, and the 3 top state enviro people were fired.  

So, now, I've been fighting for lots of social 'causes, and whenever I get stuck--need an expert, attorney, whatever--I just pray and it arrives!  No kidding!  I've learned to keep praying for whatever I need, and it comes.  Sometimes what I need is not really what I thought at all, however.

Anyway, along those lines, I think we all came here (offered ourselves up, so to speak) at this very crappy time in history to do a particular job, a job that only we can do.  It's up to us to find out what our particular job is (listen to your heart for this, what makes you feel good and what makes you feel bad).  Sometimes we have to build experiences first to be able to do our particular job.  We have to make a strong foundation on which to build our dream.  Our dream is always related to what we really, really, really love to do.

But this is all just background history about me.  What I'm interested in doing right now is exposing a virtually unknown mega industry, where parents rely on state laws and licensing to protect their children, and where children are basically held hostage and exposed to illegal treatment by untrained staff without so much as a right to tell anyone about the offenses.

I know some from my own work experiences there, but I didn't stay for very long.  I'm sure many of you have similar stories, worse ones or not so bad of ones.  I need to hear from you what you would change in the system, and what was the need in your life that put you in one of these places in the first place.

And, most of all, I need honesty.  I absolutely hate lies.  There is never any good reason for a lie.  

Anyone know anything about the national movement to take some action?

Toni

most illegal types of treatment of any group in our society.

I'm an author and an activist.  Also, I just worked at a residential treatment center when I first hit this town.  And, I just quit over sexual abuse and mind control techniques which I witnessed by the staff and reported.  A few weeks later, all investigations are complete and the case is closed by:  Sheriff's Office, Child Protective Services and the State Licensor.

I'm not gonna give up . . .  As an author, I want to write about this.  The whole story, from parents who aren't around, to kids that break rules and seem to have no hope, to institutions that are only concerned about their bottom line profit.

As a researcher, I've discovered there is very little information out there on the whole subject and particularly about the schools themselves -- not many news reports, it was quite difficult just to locate the proper licensing department to look for any complaints, and state laws are vague and new (I haven't delved into Federal law yet).

So, I'm looking for good solid, verifiable information and experiences.  I've seen the posts about a teen movement to expose the whole enchilada.  I think that is a wonderful idea.

And, if any parents are reading this thread, you should drastically reconsider sending any child to one of these places, I don't care how good it looks on the front.  I'm also a parent and no stranger to problems, but never in my wildest dreams would I send my children to any residential treatment program, not for 1 month, 3 months or a year.

Please do post or email me at [email protected]

Toni