Fornits

Fornits Home for Wayward Web Fora
An open discussion about the troubled parent industry

Go to http://www.safetyintl.org Check out the conference link.

speakers included in this year's agenda:

Rick Ross - world renowned cult expert
Alexia Parks - Discussing parents as mentors
Professor Gerard Glynn - Law Professor, Barry University - Children's rights advocate and attorney
Nancy Brighton, Truama Recovery Expert
George Rosselot, MS, Family Therapist
Wes Fager

Conference registration fee is $70.00.

Hope to see many people again this year.

Michael Sherman, Chair
Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth (SAFETY)


[ This Message was edited by: kpickle39 on 2003-05-21 13:12 ]

Go to http://www.safetyintl.org Check out the conference link.

speakers included in this year's agenda:

Rick Ross - world renowned cult expert
Alexia Parks - Discussing parents as mentors
Professor Gerard Glynn - Law Professor, Barry University - Children's rights advocate and attorney
Nancy Brighton, Truama Recovery Expert
George Rosselot, MS, Family Therapist
Wes Fager

Conference registration fee is $70.00.

Hope to see many people again this year.

Michael Sherman, Chair
Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth (SAFETY)


[ This Message was edited by: kpickle39 on 2003-05-21 13:13 ]

Go to http://www.safetyintl.org. Check out the conference link.

speakers included in this year's agenda:

Rick Ross - world renowned cult expert
Alexia Parks - Discussing parents as mentors
Professor Gerard Glynn - Law Professor, Barry University - Children's rights advocate and attorney
Nancy Brighton, Truama Recovery Expert
George Rosselot, MS, Family Therapist
Wes Fager

Conference registration fee is $70.00.

Hope to see many people again this year.

Michael Sherman, Chair
Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth (SAFETY)

Go to http://www.safetyintl.org Check out the conference link.

speakers included in this year's agenda:

Rick Ross - world renowned cult expert
Alexia Parks - Discussing parents as mentors
Professor Gerard Glynn - Law Professor, Barry University - Children's rights advocate and attorney
Nancy Brighton, Truama Recovery Expert
George Rosselot, MS, Family Therapist
Wes Fager

Conference registration fee is $70.00.

Hope to see many people again this year.

Michael Sherman, Chair
Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth (SAFETY)


[ This Message was edited by: kpickle39 on 2003-05-21 13:11 ]

Go to http://www.safetyintl.org. Check out the conference link.

speakers included in this year's agenda:

Rick Ross - world renowned cult expert
Alexia Parks - Discussing parents as mentors
Professor Gerard Glynn - Law Professor, Barry University - Children's rights advocate and attorney
Nancy Brighton, Truama Recovery Expert
George Rosselot, MS, Family Therapist

Conference registration fee is $70.00.

Hope to see many people again this year.

Michael Sherman, Chair
Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth (SAFETY)

2nd escape attempt; approximate date was January 20, 1979......

ok, it's afternoon rap,  Maybe 3 in the afternoon  I have been doing my best to not pay attention on and off now for about 25 days.  I had been sleeping on the terrazo floor at my oldcomers house now for a week or so and my body had not become accustomed to the floor as I was only allowed a sheet to cover myself and put between the floor and body.  I was frikkin tired, angry and figured I had to try and get the hell out.   I know (as we all did from experience), this was probably the hardest rap to stay awake. (at least for me it was)   I had been put back on the 2nd row because I was 1) "not a good example to other newcomers" (according to staff) and 2) people on 2nd and 3rd phase could fuck with me to keep me awake adn to remind me to pay attention.   I was sitting approx 4 people from the end on the north side of the Morgan Yacht building.   The big roll-up doors were open to let in some cool air.   I had been fantising about jumping onto the back of the many big delivery trucks that would drive by the building.   At a low point in the rap, while some kid was confessing crap about his past, I knew it was the time to make my break.   I jumped up and tried to leap from my chair to the last seat where I was sure I could break thru the slight, pimple faced wimpy 5th phaser.  I clearly misjudged the distance from my chair to the end of the row, cause I didn't make it even to the last chair.   I landed pretty much layed out in the prone position.   I jumped up, but by that time, I had been grabbed by a couple of guys and we landed out on the concrete floor with the 2 of them on top of me.  I remember my head bouncing off the floor on my first escape attempt, so I quickly just curled up in a ball to try and lessen the impact of my body and head hitting the floor.   I struggled mainly cause I was so pissed that I didn't make it to the doors. I started yelling at the top of my lungs.   Almost immediately I was rolled over on my back and sat on again.   This time I did not struggle and was still held down until just before supper.  I did not struggle at all for what I have estimated to be almost 1.5 hours.  When those fuckers finally quit sitting on me I could hardly stand.  I remember trying to get up and just kind of collapsing back onto my side.  I was snatched up and literally slammed back down into a chair this time in the middle of the group on row 3.  I remember getting my food.  We had some kind of shit sandwich that I could not possibly eat adn I just threw it on the ground.  I quickly chugged my watery instant milk so I wouldn't have that taken from me.  Later that night, I went balistic in my chair from people telling me to "get out of your head" and "pay attention".  This time I was restrained in my chair.  This is how it went...  I was sitting in my chair with my head down.  The guy next to me pokes me in the arm and points to the speaker "pay attention" he mouths.  I put my head in my hands.  The guy on the other side of me pushes my hand out from underneath my chin so I shove him back.  I am then grabbed by both arms and leg locks on both of my legs, I sat there and tried not to struggle.  I just hung my head.  The stupid fuck behind me grabs my head and tries to make me look at the person talking.  THAT WAS IT!   I began to struggle, spit and curse.  I can't believe that I am in this place...I was 18 for god's sake and they would not let me leave!   The guy behind me pulls on my head back till I'm looking up at the ceiling, both my arms and legs are restrained.  I can't even move.   I remember crying and the asshole holding my head back whispers in my ear "love you Mike"      

Babylon in all its desolation is a sight not so awful as that of the human mind in ruins.
-- Scrope Davies: Letter to Thomas Raikes, May 25, 1835.

It's that time again. The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse. The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. The dates are 25, 26 and 27 of July. This is the last weekend in July. The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed. The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net. SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.

I think animal testing is a terrible idea;  they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.    
-- A Bit of Fry and Laurie

It's that time again. The date has been set for the 3rd annual conference on treatment abuse. The place is again in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. The dates are 25, 26 and 27 of July. This is the last weekend in July. The actual site of the hotel and conference location are still being discussed. The conference this year is sponsered by Survivors and Friends for the Ethical Treatment of Youth or SAFETY Net. SAFETY Net is a not for profit corporation in the State of Florida dedicated to helping survivor's of harmful treatment programs (among other things) Stay advised for more info.... look forward to seeing y'all there.



Sincerely,



Michael Sherman, Vice-Chair, SAFETY Net

Straight Survivor '78 - '80

Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself
--Jimmy Carter