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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Benchmark Young Adult School / Benchmark Transitions => Topic started by: Che Gookin on November 23, 2008, 10:26:01 AM
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Could you please consider reducing your carbon footprint? Al Gore called and he said your are killing penguins with your methane emissions. Likewise, let us take the time to examine your court documents. Maybe you can help reduce the odor they are giving off.
Fat Cow.. (http://http://www.benchmarkyoungadultschool.com/assets/files/Opp-to-MTS-Martin-Decl.pdf)
1) On page 1 you claim your job is to maintain a healthy atmosphere for Benchmark Students.
I'd like to draw your attention to Mike's description of the Friendship workshop. In this he describes a creepy cult ceremony. Sheri it seems to me you are lying when you make this statement. A healthy environment doesn't include cult rituals.
fix that please...
2) On page 2 of your fecal stained missive you claim lil ol' Mike disrupted the operations of your wittle duckfarm. Excuse me? How did Mike prevent you guys from operating? He didn't chain himself to the vans. He didn't block your public access.
The only thing we did was stop you guys from tormenting the detainees in public. Now if you want to come out and admit this feel free to do so, but common sense dictates you might want to shut up about it.
Not that it matters.. the whole world already knows.
Still if you want to fess up send your confession to [email protected]
3) on Page 2 lines 20 to 25 you claim Mike didn't have permission to film the students and that he was heckling them. First, and you already know this as I'm certain the police told you losers this, Mike is allowed to film what he pleases as long as he can see it from public. Please clear up this little misconception/half truth.
Likewise, Mike didn't started heckling the detainees. They started heckling us first. For the most part we were content to ignore them. The most I remember Mike responding to one of the captives, after the captive started screaming, "GO jack off to Lord of the RINgs!" was, "At least I'm not still in the program!" and he left it at that.
Now most of the heckling and flaming went on between mike and staff.
Be honest..
The other encounter resulted in that tub of guts ronnie giving some girl who was screaming at Mike a nice hug. She was carrying on about how she thought you were her substitute family. Of course she changed her tune quickly when her substitute daddy ronnie made her go to her room and she hollered, "But I'm an adult."
More than anything Mike's contacts with the detainees were for the most part respectful.
Stop lying about this.
3) On the top of page 3 you claimed the po-po talked to mike and told him he couldn't tresspass or use profanity.
Lie... The police told mike he couldn't tresspass. They didn't say a fucking thing about using profanity.
NeXt.
4) On page 3 on lines 10 to 14 you claim that mike was screaming fuck you, fuck you faggot.
LIES..
i have most of that clip on video. Now your ass is really grass you fat tub of lard.
Woman.. You are a no good lying cur dog.
I hope you get fleas.
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Also on page 4 you claimed Mike shouted, "I'll be back at Christmas."
This is untrue..
I shouted it. I did it on that night when we pretended to leave town only to show up bright and early the next day.
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But will you be back at Christmas?
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I'm in Western China at the moment. I'd have to say that it probably isn't to likely that I'll be back at Benchmark for X-mas. It would be kind of nice to drop off a packet of diet pills for Sheri/Whale Ass and that pop up book for Ronnie.
Maybe even some lube for Jayne's daughter Joelle who confessed in a rap session that she liked to jerk off while driving.
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LOL! Preach, Che, preach! I hope they're reading your rebuttals...there's no doubt they are, though.
Keep going! I read through all of their statements and it's good to see them exposed. Besides, these people work there and will say whatever Jayne instructs them too.
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Actually, that was the Explorer trip on which she confessed that. There is also a visual signal she taught us to let her know we're in on the secret: Move your hands like they're on a steering wheel and go "vroom vroom". She'll know what you mean.
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on Page 2 lines 20 to 25 you claim Mike didn't have permission to film the students and that he was heckling them. First, and you already know this as I'm certain the police told you losers this, Mike is allowed to film what he pleases as long as he can see it from public. Please clear up this little misconception/half truth.
Another thing they neglected to mention. Before we left, I told them that I would be blurring out the faces of students in any video that was published. I also find it hard to believe they give a damn about student's privacy given that they published Marcos's full name on the internet as well as E. Block. I wonder if Benchmark told all the people they had sign declarations they would publish them as spiteful propaganda on the internet if they lost. As soon as I read those declarations, I told my lawyers: "they're going to publish these if they lose". And they did.
Now I have that shit, which may or may not be protected by litigation privilege (http://http://www.lectlaw.com/def/l058.htm), attached to my name. Just shows what sore, childish, losers they are to resort to false attacks on the character of others to cover their own indefensible hides. Assholes.
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Marcos’s mom shows what’s wrong with the 'just get the info out there and people will stop sending their kids away' notion. Ultimately, many parents are horrible, and don't care what is done to their kid because their kid is BAD-INSANE.
Current laws need to be enforced and new laws need to be implemented to stop the Secret Holocaust.
To you who thought the election didn't matter: imagine how open John McCain would be to that when it means "infringing on the free market" and "states rights" and "parental choice," and all their other justifications for serving the interests of Big Business’s carnivorous Greed.
Who do you think is more likely to prosecute those who beat that Florida kid to death on video? This might be the end of an era for the teen torture industry.
“Better late than never,” say the Gulag Archipelago’s approximately 400,000 (?) corpses. Do you wish to pay your respects to them? Sorry. You can’t visit their resting place.
We keep no records of gulag fatalities in America. 15 year olds simply have “heart attacks,” or are “bitten by spiders.” People simply commit suicide. There are no official records of how many have died or what caused them to disappear from the corporeal world. The victims are essentially buried in unmarked graves, unremembered.
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Marcos’s mom shows what’s wrong with the 'just get the info out there and people will stop sending their kids away' notion. Ultimately, many parents are horrible, and don't care what is done to their kid because their kid is BAD-INSANE.
According to Marcos, he had been in program for almost 9 years before Benchmark as well. He more or less grew up in program. He also mentioned his parents had been brainwashed by Premier Seminars during the interview, so I would consider it a high likelihood that at least one of those facilities was a WWASP facility.
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Marcos’s mom shows what’s wrong with the 'just get the info out there and people will stop sending their kids away' notion.
Those people are few and far enough between that they don't matter. The vast majority of the parents would not send their kids away if they knew the full extent of what that entailed. "vast majority" is enough to send any business to the bottom of the ocean.
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on Page 2 lines 20 to 25 you claim Mike didn't have permission to film the students and that he was heckling them. First, and you already know this as I'm certain the police told you losers this, Mike is allowed to film what he pleases as long as he can see it from public. Please clear up this little misconception/half truth.
Another thing they neglected to mention. Before we left, I told them that I would be blurring out the faces of students in any video that was published. I also find it hard to believe they give a damn about student's privacy given that they published Marcos's full name on the internet as well as E. Block. I wonder if Benchmark told all the people they had sign declarations they would publish them as spiteful propaganda on the internet if they lost. As soon as I read those declarations, I told my lawyers: "they're going to publish these if they lose". And they did.
Now I have that shit, which may or may not be protected by litigation privilege (http://http://www.lectlaw.com/def/l058.htm), attached to my name. Just shows what sore, childish, losers they are to resort to false attacks on the character of others to cover their own indefensible hides. Assholes.
Yeah I remember mike telling that one dude he'd blur out all the faces. The guy had full arm tats and looked like they hired him right out of rehab.
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Marcos’s mom shows what’s wrong with the 'just get the info out there and people will stop sending their kids away' notion.
Those people are few and far enough between that they don't matter. The vast majority of the parents would not send their kids away if they knew the full extent of what that entailed. "vast majority" is enough to send any business to the bottom of the ocean.
I think that's overly-optimistic. And even if that's true a "boutique" industry will continue. Young adults need to be recognized as human and protected by law.
As long as murder is legal, even if people are made to understand that it hurts the other person, they will continue doing it if it suits them. You need legal consequences for this to end.
Good work, Psy, for working on this! You know, I've never read a complete 'testimony' about your stay at Benchmark. Now might be the time to put this together.
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I think that's overly-optimistic.
Ok. Any explanation of why Benchmark's enrollment has dropped from 60+ in 2006 to 13 in 2008 according to Benchmark's claimed damages? I see it as a proof of concept for the "education approach" which can and should be repeated with other schools.
And even if that's true a "boutique" industry will continue.
Not if it's not profitable. When the enrollment drops enough, and enough expenses pile up... Even if there are a few desperate/crazy parents left, it's still not enough to support a program. If they all are targeted in this manner... well. there goes the industry. It would take a lot of research and work, but it can be done. If they can build em all, we can fuck em all up.
Young adults need to be recognized as human and protected by law.
As long as murder is legal, even if people are made to understand that it hurts the other person, they will continue doing it if it suits them. You need legal consequences for this to end.
I'd agree with that, but that point is a long way away. Until that time, however, there are other ways to skin the cat.
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I think that's overly-optimistic.
Ok. Any explanation of why Benchmark's enrollment has dropped from 60+ in 2006 to 13 in 2008 according to Benchmark's claimed damages? I see it as a proof of concept for the "education approach" which can and should be repeated with other schools.
And even if that's true a "boutique" industry will continue.
Not if it's not profitable. When the enrollment drops enough, and enough expenses pile up... Even if there are a few desperate/crazy parents left, it's still not enough to support a program. If they all are targeted in this manner... well. there goes the industry. It would take a lot of research and work, but it can be done. If they can build em all, we can fuck em all up.
Young adults need to be recognized as human and protected by law.
As long as murder is legal, even if people are made to understand that it hurts the other person, they will continue doing it if it suits them. You need legal consequences for this to end.
I'd agree with that, but that point is a long way away. Until that time, however, there are other ways to skin the cat.
I c what youre saying, but i'd guess that a partial explanation is the economy and that benchmark targets adults. I think that's a dif. market than parents of teens (though there's an overlap). The adult attending the school has to make the choice to go there and therefore gets to participate in the decision of whether he wants to go. Look at WWASP its still going and it's famously bad. But yes, getting the truth out (though you'd think the truth would be self-evident to anyone who pays to have their kid abducted) makes a difference.
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I c what youre saying, but i'd guess that a partial explanation is the economy and that benchmark targets adults. I think that's a dif. market than parents of teens (though there's an overlap).
Question: how many of those kids you think grew up in program? shit... Marcos told me he had been in program for nine years prior to Benchmark.
The adult attending the school has to make the choice to go there and therefore gets to participate in the decision of whether he wants to go.
Benchmark accepts minors. See their admissions forms. Also, a choice is not really a choice unless it is fully informed.
See informed consent:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informed_consent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informed_consent)
Does Benchmark represent itself accurately and honestly to the public? Do your research on that.
There are a whole host of issues here that make the distinction you're trying to draw not as simple as it would appear at first. Marcos asked for his passport back (his property by law). Did they give it to him? no (see Pinedo Decl.). What is and is not legal does not matter if a person believes they have no rights (Benchmark told me that I had signed away my rights on admission to program). I didn't know it wasn't possible, and certainly didn't remember signing anything like that, but at the time that didn't matter. That's just one more way.
There are thousands of ways of keeping people prisoners without bars. Cults do it all the time. The fact that programs like WWASP even need bars and physical abuse shows the Mormons are relatively behind the times in terms of their brainwashing. CEDU is second generation thought reform, (http://http://www.rickross.com/reference/brainwashing/brainwashing10.html) bitches!
Look at WWASP its still going and it's famously bad. But yes, getting the truth out (though you'd think the truth would be self-evident to anyone who pays to have their kid abducted) makes a difference.
The information is out there. It just needs a little guidance.
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I c what youre saying, but i'd guess that a partial explanation is the economy and that benchmark targets adults. I think that's a dif. market than parents of teens (though there's an overlap).
Question: how many of those kids you think grew up in program? shit... Marcos told me he had been in program for nine years prior to Benchmark.
The adult attending the school has to make the choice to go there and therefore gets to participate in the decision of whether he wants to go.
Benchmark accepts minors. See their admissions forms. Also, a choice is not really a choice unless it is fully informed.
See informed consent:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informed_consent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informed_consent)
Does Benchmark represent itself accurately and honestly to the public? Do your research on that.
There are a whole host of issues here that make the distinction you're trying to draw not as simple as it would appear at first. Marcos asked for his passport back (his property by law). Did they give it to him? no (see Pinedo Decl.). What is and is not legal does not matter if a person believes they have no rights (Benchmark told me that I had signed away my rights on admission to program). I didn't know it wasn't possible, and certainly didn't remember signing anything like that, but at the time that didn't matter. That's just one more way.
There are thousands of ways of keeping people prisoners without bars. Cults do it all the time. The fact that programs like WWASP even need bars and physical abuse shows the Mormons are relatively behind the times in terms of their brainwashing. CEDU is second generation thought reform, (http://http://www.rickross.com/reference/brainwashing/brainwashing10.html) bitches!
Look at WWASP its still going and it's famously bad. But yes, getting the truth out (though you'd think the truth would be self-evident to anyone who pays to have their kid abducted) makes a difference.
The information is out there. It just needs a little guidance.
My hats off to you for trying to shut a place down that hurts people!
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Oh... I'm not done after Benchmark is finished. No sir.