Post by: Anne Bonney on August 25, 2007, 12:24:31 AM
There is a friend of mine who went through the Sarasota program, but lived with us right before and after graduation. (the Sarasota program closed down right before she was due to graduate and her family was heavily involved as was my father). She and I became really close. We stayed friends over the years even though I "relapsed" (her word, not mine) and she has stayed sober ever since getting out back in 84. she's still heavily involved in AA, goes to meetings, a couple of different ones, a few times a week. She and I have had a tumultuous friendship, to say the least. I was so controlled by my father, my ex and his parents for so long (they would hold custody over my head if I didn't behave as they wished) and this girl was a part of it, completely believing the entire time that she was "helping" me and my kids. (an obvious misreading on her part).
Anyway, she does love my kids (in her own way) and I love her boys. (They're much younger than my kids who are grown. Hers are 12 and 13). She's had the older on on Adderall since he was 5 for supposed ADHD (I never had problems with him when he would stay with me) and he's been in "therapy" for most of his life.
Anyway again, I haven't spoken to her in a few years. Her kids have always loved me and begged her to start speaking to me again. She finally relented last week and showed up at my doorstep. Sent the kids to the door instead of coming herself 'cause she knew I'd shut the door in her face. I love these kids, but I can't lie to them. They want to see me and my girls, but I am so polar opposite to what their mother believes in that I can't hide it.
She sent my yougest daugher (whom she's always favored over my oldest who happens to take after and look very much like me) an email trying to explain why she disappeared from their lives. she went on and on about how hard it w2as to "stay sober" when her best friend was "relapsing" over and over. I was so appalled by the statement and the rest of the email that I couldn't think for a minute. She has spent the better part of 25 years agonizing over whether or not she should have a beer. She hasn't, I have. In fact, I've had plenty of beer, pot, some scripts and various other pleasures over the years. She's absolutely astounded that I'm not dead, not divorced, not homeless, jobless, toothless and all the other dire predictions that Straght and i'ts followers saw for me.
I realized how resentful she is that she's expended all this energy "staying sober" for what? She's divorced, unhappy, has a 13 year old who has already been arrested for stealing despite her doping him for almost a decade, sending him to Alateen and all the rest of the BS. What does she ahve to show for her sobriety that she insists she's so proud of and has brouhgt her such gifts? She's pissed that she DID follow the rules and got shafted and I DIDN'T and my life (in the past few years since I've denoucned all things Stepcraft) has done nothing but get better and better.
Ok, enough rambling. I went out to dinner, had a few drinks and started thinking. That's never a good idea.
Ginger, you know this person I'm speaking of. I'll fill you in later on the rest of the conversation with her.
Post by: Oz girl on August 25, 2007, 01:56:28 AM
I just hope her son does not get sent somewhere to "cure" his recent bad behavior
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2007, 04:18:17 AM
Poor kids too, having a Mom like that. :(
Post by: hanzomon4 on August 25, 2007, 11:24:22 AM
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 25, 2007, 01:06:52 PM
Quote from: ""Oz girl""
I really actually feel for your friend. It sounds like she has been living a life of fear. It would also be hard to recognise any faults with the more hardcore element of the AA mentality if you had lived with it for so long. Afterall all of your friends and associates would more or less come from this group. If you cut yourself off from it I would imagine you would feel pretty isolated.
I just hope her son does not get sent somewhere to "cure" his recent bad behavior
That's my worst fear. I was talking to my daughter about it last night. I'm not supposed to know that he got in trouble. His younger brother told me when we were out of earshot of his mother. He was sentenced to CS for whatever he did and she was trying to pass it off to me as he was 'volunteering'. Really pissed me off. She was going on and on about how proud she was of him for "volunteering" over the summer. I just sat there on the other end of the phone with my mouth hanging open. Who the fuck do these people think they are? The arrogance! I don't know what to do about the boys though. I am afraid for him (the oldest). I just don't know what she's capable of as far as that's concerned. That's the only thing that makes me want to stay in their lives. At least I'd have a chance to tell him he had someone who would listen and try to help if things ever got to "that" point. She has simultaneously drugged this kid and fed him Stepcraft bullshit for pretty much his whole life. What did she think was going to happen?
As far as the friendship with her, sorry. Hell no. I've had enough AA bullshit in my life. Those holier-than-thou assholes make me sick, including her. She has consistently (years ago, when I was still somewhat under the influence and her opinion mattered to me) had conversations with my father about 'what to do about Kim :o We're so worried about Kim, blah blah blah'. She tried that shit with my husband for a while, but it didn't fly so easily with him. How DARE she? Why in HELL would she presume that my marriage was any of HER business? Especially when her marriage was falling apart.
Straight and then for years after AA had a huge amount of control over my life (AA not by choice, the ex, his parents and my father would haul me into court over custody if I drank. I already had a "dx" from Straight :roll: :flame: . All they had to do was go to court (with a lawyer who was on Straight's BOD) and say I was drinking and I was order to AA). I can't and won't take that anymore. Any lingering "washed" effects left as soon as my youngest was old enough to kill any power they had over me. Then and only then, was I truly and fully able to let go of all the crap they pounded in my head over the years. All the shit they tried to convince me of about myself. I finally was able to do what I wanted, when[/i] I wanted and figure out what I really wanted for myself. It was like Straight put my maturation to adulthood on hold for 20+ years. They stopped the normal learning process that should have happened when I was a teenager. I went from being 16 to Straight for 2 years, got pregnant 4 months after getting out, got married, had a kid, pregnant again, another kid, divorced, remarried (this time to a great guy. 16 years now) and THEN....when the youngest was about 15 or 16....life began again.
People do not understand how much this whole mentality, not just the programs or just for the time kids are in a program, destroys people and families. It lasts for years anyway. God help you if they stay involved with the Stepcraft mentality. I can't do it anymore.
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 25, 2007, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: ""hanzomon4""
Classic Cult victim?
Yep
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Jesus Anne, if I were you and this woman sent my daughter an email saying that crap about me, I'd never speak to her again. Some piece of work, that one. Seems as though if you choose to see her kids, you'll also end up having some kind of contact with her ( even if only thru the kids) so that would be a tough one for me, especially if I loved the kids.
Poor kids too, having a Mom like that.
and yep
Post by: str8h8er on August 25, 2007, 03:53:26 PM
And personal experience as well, I suppose.
I was 12 when I was sent into Straight. Everything I knew prior to Straight was gone. All of it, as you well know.
I think that it screwed with my identity of who I thought I was because they were (Straight ppl) were telling me something totally different.
The people that make it through the program, and beleive in all of Straight"s bullshit have what I would call an identity crisis. They have been programed to believe that living the "sober" lifestyle is the only path that leads to happiness. SUCH BULLSHIT!!!!.
When they believe that, they pass that along and so on, and so on. Pretty soon, or I suspect in the case of your friend, that perhaps she is coming to a realization that what she always thought to be correct, is somehow crumbling around her. If that makes any sense.
I am no Saint. But I do believe that I am a good person. Despite what Straight said :wink:
Despite my anger towards Straight and places like it, I try to have compassion and understanding for those who can't think for themselves.
I hope I didn't bore ya. Just a thought on the situation.
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on August 26, 2007, 02:02:04 AM
Post by: Oz girl on August 26, 2007, 08:45:27 AM
it is a relief that this kid got community service and not a sentence at some wilderness place. I wonder where his dad is in all this. Perhaps he is more able to mentor and discipline the boy in an appropriate and proportional way.
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 26, 2007, 12:40:56 PM
Quote from: ""str8h8er""
My Opinion only
And personal experience as well, I suppose.
I was 12 when I was sent into Straight. Everything I knew prior to Straight was gone. All of it, as you well know.
I think that it screwed with my identity of who I thought I was because they were (Straight ppl) were telling me something totally different.
The people that make it through the program, and beleive in all of Straight"s bullshit have what I would call an identity crisis. They have been programed to believe that living the "sober" lifestyle is the only path that leads to happiness. SUCH BULLSHIT!!!!.
When they believe that, they pass that along and so on, and so on. Pretty soon, or I suspect in the case of your friend, that perhaps she is coming to a realization that what she always thought to be correct, is somehow crumbling around her. If that makes any sense.
I am no Saint. But I do believe that I am a good person. Despite what Straight said :wink:
Despite my anger towards Straight and places like it, I try to have compassion and understanding for those who can't think for themselves.
I hope I didn't bore ya. Just a thought on the situation.
Didn't bore me at all. I think you're right. She's spent all this time and energy maintaining her sobriety and for what? She's just as fucked up as I was, or still am, just in different ways. That's something I've seen in every person I know that did time in there. My dad married another program parent, so my step sister and brother also were in. My ex-husband, this friend that I'm speaking of now and a few others. All of us. Every single one, just in all different ways.
It's so sad.
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 26, 2007, 01:08:56 PM
Quote from: ""85 Day Jerk""
Well, Ms Bonney....... I've known you since 2003 and this is the first time I heard you were married twice. I remember you talking about an abusive husband and when I mentioned it in an e-mail you nearly ripped my head off. It left me very confused and bewildered.
That's because you don't know me. At all. Never did. You know who I am, you've been at a few of the same get togethers as I have where we spoke a few times, but that's about it. So, for the record, so Bob doesn't get confused anymore..... I married a Straight grad, had two kids with him, got divorced within 5 years and have been married to my husband now for 16 years who has never abused me a day in his life which is probably why I took your head off. You like to imagine that you and I had some great friendship. Funny, I don't remember it that way at all.
Does that clear up any confusion for ya there Bob? Ya know, from now on just leave me out of your little stories, don't bother replying to my posts....I really don't give a damn what you have to say.
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At the risk of you wanting to tear my head off again now, I would like to point out that you must have spent a few years living a double life and that the viscious little habits that came with it are still a part of your make-up today.
Too late. fuck off asshole!!!!! God but you're a pathetic little man.
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Way, way in the back of your subconscious
I'm talking about. The fact that I was driving schoolbuses back when us Pinellas County Veterans all met really played a part in how I related to everyone else. Back then, smoking pot was completely out of the question if I wanted to keep my job AND my commercial drivers license. It was simply impossible for me to take a casual attitude towards alot of things.
What the fuck is that and what does it have to do with ANYthing? I met up with a few people a few times a few years back. I'm not looking back on that with a whole lot of fondness, (well, except for the DC trip, that was fun as shit) I was a fucking wreck. I don't and didn't give a rat's ass whether or not you smoked pot! Why should I give a shit? Most of my friends don't smoke. And you shouldn't have given a rat's ass if I DID smoke. It had no effect on your life.
It wasn't the pot Bob. :roll:
Christ, I had enough of my own problems back then. I had no time or energy to worry about whether or not I was hurting poor Bob;s feelingns. I didn't know you, you didn't know me. I didn't really have much of a desire to know you and I tried to just avoid you politely for a while so I wouldn't have to be rude. You made that impossible.
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Wanna know the one thing about you that impressed the hell out of me? It was them freaking Undie Top things you invented! I'm sorry if they never took off, maybe they were ahead of their time, but I thought they were cute as hell. Stuff like that is what makes you a cool person to know. I hope things work out.
Yeah, right. :roll:
Post by: Froderik on August 26, 2007, 01:12:24 PM
Got any pics?? ::seg::
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 26, 2007, 01:14:27 PM
Quote from: ""Oz girl""
Given all that i can see why you are less than forgiving of your friend. I suppose you can pity someone but stop your involvement when it gets to the point that it personally effects your life.
Yeah, that's about it. It starts out as pity, but then I get pissed when I feel that fucking AA judgment coming down on me.
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it is a relief that this kid got community service and not a sentence at some wilderness place. I wonder where his dad is in all this. Perhaps he is more able to mentor and discipline the boy in an appropriate and proportional way.
Dad is also a grad, but the washing has come off in his case. It's a long, complicated story. He's a decent guy, has his own issues as we all do. I think he'll be my approach if she decides to try and send the older boy away. He 's going to continue to get in trouble. I really don't think she understands how to deal with him at all. No wonder though, so heavily involved in Stepcraft.
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 26, 2007, 01:57:47 PM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
"Undie top" things? :o
Got any pics?? ::seg::
Actually, I think so. I'll check. they were pretty cool. Women's tank tops made out of men's jockeys. You flip them upside down and backwards and cut out the crotch.
I think I just saw those last week, I'll go look. That was one thing I was kinda proud of. I was just too screwed up to make a business float. Who knows, maybe again someday for fun.
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 26, 2007, 05:56:51 PM
The friends emailed my youngest (she likes her best because she's the one with the girly, princess personality, my oldest is more like me) and asked her to disable the boys ability to view her page. Now the friend and HER youngest are telling MY youngest that she (my youngest) needs to check herself into REHAB!!! because they saw ONE picture of her with a beer in her and and ((((((GASP)))))) she's only 20!!!!! :o :roll: Mind you this is my 'angel' kid. The one that does nothing wrong, that everyone adores. She's a little blond all American kid. First, I can't believe the BALLS of Stepcraft people thinking they have the right to judge someone else's life at all, let alone from a picture on a page, but my youngest?. Guess she feels like the other one's a lost cause. And WTF is she teaching HER kids???? Her older is going to end up in big trouble, seriously. Her youngest is so programmed already that he's telling an adult that she needs rehab off the basis of her having ONE BEER.
Fucking people. Both these girls couldn't possibly make me more proud. I've been through struggles with them, especially the older. She went through her 'fuck you, I'm doing whatever I want" stage. Scared the crap out of me for about 4 years, but damn! She's got her CNA, is in school now for LPN towards RN, little sisters working on CNA. Older has a good job, her own place, decent credit, good friends and a pretty decent guy (finally, the last was a nightmare).
That's it. There is no way in hell I'm going to be able to tolerate speaking to her without punching her fucking lights out. I'll figure out some way to keep track of the boys and if she starts making noises about shipping him off I'll raise holy fukcing hell!!!!!!
I can't believe the fucking BALLS these people have!!!!
Post by: webdiva on August 26, 2007, 06:17:21 PM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
"Undie top" things? :o
Got any pics?? ::seg::
LMAO! Men! :roll:
i wanna see too!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 26, 2007, 06:20:56 PM
You'll love 'em. They really were great..
Post by: webdiva on August 26, 2007, 09:17:50 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
I'll email to ya if you post them. I don't have a photobucket account and I don't know how to put up pics unless they're already on a webpage somewhere.
You'll love 'em. They really were great..
yes email them to me ill post them no problem. Ill PM you my email.
Post by: hanzomon4 on August 26, 2007, 10:03:27 PM
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 26, 2007, 10:17:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2007, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
"Undie top" things? :o
Got any pics?? ::seg::
I've seen them. They are pretty cool, and if Anne goth the right marketing/distributer for them, she'd do pretty well.
Btw, Anne, I think you are 100% justified in your anger at the Stepcultists. They are no-good busybodies, and it's really fucked up of them to invade your and your kid's lives like that, particularly when they start spouting that shit about how your kids need rehab. I've met both of your kids on a few different occasions, and I gotta say, neither of them is anywhere in need of rehab. You did a damn good job raising them amidst the shitstorm of Stepcraftery that was surrounding you, and they have done damn well for themselves. The idea that either of them needs AA/NA/other forms of Stepcraft is ludicrous and patently absurd. Just shows to go ya how fucked up Stepsters like your ex-pal M--y are. They prech and try to convert more than Southern Fucking Baptists, and wave more propaganda in your face than Jehovah's Witnesses. See, that's the problem---with Straight, AA, NA, etc. It's not enough for THEM to live their lives by the bullshit Bill W. excreted, they won't rest until YOU believe it too. It's right there in the 12th Fallacy, the one about "carry the message". Oh, eventually they will decide that you are "too far gone", or "constitutionally incapable", and leave you alone, but then they shift targets to your family, friends and loved ones. Damned fucked up if ya ask me, I stay away from Stepraft and it's practitioners, they are no damn good.
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on August 26, 2007, 11:50:52 PM
We never ever were friends Kimmy, because in order to HAVE a friend you have to know how to BE a friend. All our "friendship" ever consisted of was my decency as a human being and your self centered whims because after all, it really is ALL ABOUT YOU, is'nt it???? :D :D :roll: ::bandit:: ::bandit::
Post by: webdiva on August 26, 2007, 11:57:14 PM
Quote from: ""hanzomon4""
Oo *waits*
Im still waiting on the email maybe she got high and forgot LMAO
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 27, 2007, 08:41:50 AM
Quote from: ""Capt. Von Ondine""
Quote from: ""Froderik"""Undie top" things? :o
Got any pics?? ::seg::
I've seen them. They are pretty cool, and if Anne goth the right marketing/distributer for them, she'd do pretty well.
Btw, Anne, I think you are 100% justified in your anger at the Stepcultists. They are no-good busybodies, and it's really fucked up of them to invade your and your kid's lives like that, particularly when they start spouting that shit about how your kids need rehab. I've met both of your kids on a few different occasions, and I gotta say, neither of them is anywhere in need of rehab. You did a damn good job raising them amidst the shitstorm of Stepcraftery that was surrounding you, and they have done damn well for themselves. The idea that either of them needs AA/NA/other forms of Stepcraft is ludicrous and patently absurd. Just shows to go ya how fucked up Stepsters like your ex-pal M--y are. They prech and try to convert more than Southern Fucking Baptists, and wave more propaganda in your face than Jehovah's Witnesses. See, that's the problem---with Straight, AA, NA, etc. It's not enough for THEM to live their lives by the bullshit Bill W. excreted, they won't rest until YOU believe it too. It's right there in the 12th Fallacy, the one about "carry the message". Oh, eventually they will decide that you are "too far gone", or "constitutionally incapable", and leave you alone, but then they shift targets to your family, friends and loved ones. Damned fucked up if ya ask me, I stay away from Stepraft and it's practitioners, they are no damn good.
I know and I'm fine, really. It just really pissed me off. I couldn't be more proud of my kids. They are unbelievable. So much smarter and stronger than I ever was. They're at the age too now where they're back to being really close. They're 2 1/2 years apart and complete opposites. One redhead, one blond with a lot of the stereotypical personality traits to go with it. They were so close when they were younger. When the grandparents took them from me the first time, they were 3 & 1. I left my ex because of abuse. My dad found out that I had been drinking and smoking pot again, and the kids were gone. On top of that, the fucking grandparents were fighting over which would be better to raise them, so they came up with the fucking brilliant idea of each taking one. So, they were separated (in the same city though, saw each other almost ever day but still) until I got them back almost 3 fucking years later. They leaned on each other through that and were very close. then came the teen years and they hated each other for a while. Now it's beautiful. I can't believe what amazing adults they are.
Thanks for what you said my friend, it means a lot. Especially coming from you.
Webdiva....I sent you the pictures from my Gmail account last night before I went to bed. You didn't get them?
I'm going to work in a few. I'll check back with you then and resend them if needed. Thanks for doing that.
:D
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 27, 2007, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: ""85 Day Jerk""
So does this mean I won't be getting a Christmas Card this year?
We never ever were friends Kimmy, because in order to HAVE a friend you have to know how to BE a friend. All our "friendship" ever consisted of was my decency as a human being and your self centered whims because after all, it really is ALL ABOUT YOU, is'nt it???? :D :D :roll: ::bandit:: ::bandit::
No Bob. It takes a desire on both parts to begin a friendship in the first place. I tried to just be polite about it but you kept and still keep pushing. I'm sorry your personality isn't the type that I'm drawn to for a friendship, but it isn't an never was. That doesn't mean you're a bad guy, just not my choice in someone I'd want to hang out with.
You know nothing about me Bob. We hung out at a few of those 'meetings' when I first found these boards, were at the same protest in Orlando and the meeting for MCG. Christ, that was a long time ago. And at a pretty traumatic and confusing time for me. I was separated from the man I adored and credited for 'saving' me. I was at the very beginning of coming out of the haze of having to cater to the whims of all the Stepcraft people around me. In some ways I felt like I was getting out of Straight all over again, so I'm sorry if my focus wasn't on you. :roll: It ain't all about you either you fat fuck
I guess that was a big part of your life?? I don't know. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, I tried not to at first. But then, I'm assuming after you felt rejected, you started throwing your little verbal daggers at me, like I had wronged you in some way. And you obviously have a talent for it. A while ago we, thru PMs, agreed to leave each other alone. Think we could get back to that? I put up a post about something that happened to me recently. It wasn't addressed to you. I'm asking again, if we could just leave each other alone because we obviously don't get along. That work for you? Good. :roll:
Damn! Maybe it wasn't all Beth. Bob seems to have quite an active imagination.
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 27, 2007, 01:27:47 PM
No, that's not me. It's a friend of mine. She had the tits to really show how they're supposed to fit. I don't.
:roll: :rofl:
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Post by: Froderik on August 27, 2007, 01:58:18 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
UndiTops!!!!! Please excuse the handmade sign.
Hey now!! Believe me, I wasn't looking at the sign! ::bwahaha2::
Post by: webdiva on August 27, 2007, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
UndiTops!!!!! Please excuse the handmade sign. There was a bike night that came up on me before I had my regular sign made up.
No, that's not me. It's a friend of mine. She had the tits to really show how they're supposed to fit. I don't.
:roll: :rofl:
I see you figured out photobucket and this is one time i wont complain that a pic is too big. lol
those would sell like crazy in san diego. or anywhere warm for that matter.
so um the underwear that you use, they are new right? :rofl:
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 27, 2007, 02:57:03 PM
:rofl: Yes, they're new!! :rofl: Although I did have a couple of guys have me make up some for their wives with fake 'racing stripes' on them. I also had ones that had handprints in the perfect spots, so it would look like someone grabbed your tits with hands covered in wet paint.
I had a lot of fun doing them. I still make a few when people who know about them are having a party or something. They go over big as 'favors'. Made some for a couple with the name of their boat on them taht they passed out to friends.
Post by: hanzomon4 on August 27, 2007, 05:24:33 PM
I had no idea that you went through all that with your kids, gotdamn you are one strong person. You survivors inspire me with your resilience....
Post by: RTP2003 on August 27, 2007, 06:29:12 PM
Quote from: ""85 Day Jerk""
So does this mean I won't be getting a Christmas Card this year?
We never ever were friends Kimmy, because in order to HAVE a friend you have to know how to BE a friend. All our "friendship" ever consisted of was my decency as a human being and your self centered whims because after all, it really is ALL ABOUT YOU, is'nt it???? :D :D :roll: ::bandit:: ::bandit::
Don't know where you get the impressions you have, Bob. She's been a good friend to me since I met her. "ALL ABOUT HER"? I don't think so, and I'm pretty sure she doesn't think so, either.
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on August 27, 2007, 07:02:41 PM
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 27, 2007, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: ""85 Day Jerk""
Okay, take the drugs away and then tell me about this wonderful friendship you have.............you cant. Hunter S. Thompson said it best, "NEVER TRUST DRUG PEOPLE AND NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON A DRUG." The last time I saw your "friend" was in Pinellas Park Florida in 2004. Her ribs were showing, her hair was wild, and I did'nt even get to say hello to her really, because she was to busy frantically apologizing to a woman from Sarasota that she burned for a couple hundred dollars who was ready to kick her ass.
God, Bob. Every time I think you can't be more of an ass, you post. :roll:
You have no idea what kind of a friendship he and I have and you never will.
So what if my ribs were showing? What is that to you? I said I was going through one of the toughest times of my life. Gee, is that OK with you Bob?? No one was ready to kick my ass, I didn't owe anyone anything.
You fat fuck!
What is it that I've done to hurt you so badly Bob? Why do you feel the need to trash me? I put a post up that had nothing to do with you, yet you felt compelled to come and talk shit about or to me. What's your malfunciton dude? I've done nothing to you but spurn your attempts at friendship and I have every fucking right to do that. Everyone keeps telling me that you're a little boy who had a crush and just can't get over it. Lord I HOPE not. THAT would give me nightmares.
Waht about that agreement Bob. I'll leave you alone and you leave me alone.
Deal?
Post by: webdiva on August 27, 2007, 10:12:50 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Yeah, I figured I'd go ahead and register. Thanks for the offer though. Did that email ever come through from last night?
:rofl: Yes, they're new!! :rofl: Although I did have a couple of guys have me make up some for their wives with fake 'racing stripes' on them. I also had ones that had handprints in the perfect spots, so it would look like someone grabbed your tits with hands covered in wet paint.
I had a lot of fun doing them. I still make a few when people who know about them are having a party or something. They go over big as 'favors'. Made some for a couple with the name of their boat on them taht they passed out to friends.
Nope never got the email :( lol ah well... and good to know they are NEW :rofl: Seems like you need to holler at webdiva and get you a website so you can sell these things online woman!
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 27, 2007, 10:33:09 PM
I'd love to get into selling them again. I don't have the time anymore, but maybe it wouldn't be as bad doing it over a website.
Oh well, something to think about. I'll definitely talk to you about it. Thanks!
Know what time it is????
::bandit:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :smokin:
Damn druggies! :flame:
::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao::
Post by: webdiva on August 27, 2007, 11:01:03 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Oh well, something to think about. I'll definitely talk to you about it. Thanks!
Know what time it is????
::bandit:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :smokin:
yeah definitely a market there especially selling to guys who think their girl will look as hot as the one in the pic simply by putting on mens underwear. Guys are silly like that but it makes for great sales! LOL just kidding.. haha *kinda* but definitely holler if ever you feel like exploring that. could at least give you an idea of your options etc. Doesnt cost all that much these days (website stuff that is) if u know someone cool :P
and um yes im still workin on the same Blue Moon Shine I've had for a month, i'm a light weight now but that's ok cuz i get REAL high. :rofl: :smokin: ::bandit::
*now what were we talking about, nekkid men or something?*
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 28, 2007, 12:35:19 PM
Hey look!
I'd love to see him nekkid, smoking a bowl, playing the bongos. I'd bail him out.
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Post by: Antigen on August 28, 2007, 01:19:19 PM
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 28, 2007, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
85 days my ass! Why oh why do yenz waste your time and energy.
Pardon me dear, but searching through pics of Matty is NOT a waste of time or energy.
Bongo playing, spliff smokin' li'l hottie.
:smokin: ::seg::
Post by: RTP2003 on August 28, 2007, 08:40:54 PM
Quote from: ""85 Day Jerk""
Okay, take the drugs away and then tell me about this wonderful friendship you have.............you cant. Hunter S. Thompson said it best, "NEVER TRUST DRUG PEOPLE AND NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON A DRUG." The last time I saw your "friend" was in Pinellas Park Florida in 2004. Her ribs were showing, her hair was wild, and I did'nt even get to say hello to her really, because she was to busy frantically apologizing to a woman from Sarasota that she burned for a couple hundred dollars who was ready to kick her ass.
Well, where do I begin? Maybe three years ago when I was feeling a bit more suicidal than usual, and she took me into her house, and offered up some iced tea and sympathy? She damn well may have saved my life back then.....whether this is a good thing or not, well, the jury is still out on that. I can tell you that the esteemed Ms. Bonney is one of the closest friends I have, and that our drug use together has been of the "soft" kind.....a little weed and maybe a beer or two. In fact, she has expressed concern over my drug use on more than one occasion. Take the drugs out of the equation, which I CAN do, and we still have a very close friendship. And Bob, quoting Hunter S. Thompson to make an anti-drug point is a lot like quoting Adolf Hitler to bolster a point about tolerance of other cultures.
I don't know what your fucking vendetta against Anne is about, or why you seem to be acting like some guy that asks for a girl's # andgets shot down whenever you have anything to say to or about her, but I can assure you that while Anne and I have enjoyed the occasional toke together, I am positive that if either one of us were to quit smoking, the other would still consider them a friend. Our friendship is not based on drugs, but on trivial shit like, oh, mutual respect, understanding, and a genuine concern for the other's well being. I have one hell of a lot more respect for her than I do for you, not that I expect you to understand that in the slightest. I don't know what your fucking problem is, but rest assured that when you go on tirades against her like the recent one, you merely make yourself look like an idiot, a dumbass that no one in their right mind, or even their most stoned-to-the-gills fucked-up mind, would care to associate with. In a way, I pity you, because you obviously have never been able to connect with another human being the way some of us have been able to connect with each other. Anne Bonney is a friend of mine, I am proud to say, and I've been able to talk to her about many many different things, drugs included, but not exclusively so. Hell, she doesn't even DO drugs, at least not to the point I would consider makes her a "drug person". I do, I make no bones about that fact, hell, I boast of my chemical derangement pretty frequently on these boards. The fact that you can't see past her dismissal of you, one I think is thouroughly justified and definitely the right move for her to make, indicates to me that you are, and possibly always will be, a boring, spiteful fuck. Ki8nd of like the pathetic old drunk at the bar that is forever whining about the "one that got away", only you never "got" the one in the first place.
Lay off of Anne and quit acting like an asshole.
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on August 28, 2007, 10:13:41 PM
"What's that got to do with anything you ask?" Well quite simply this, when Ms. B needed my help, I was Dudley Do-right, I was Bob, plain and simple, so you gotta ask yourself this question. If I happened to have come to your rescue that weekend, who woulda got to be the asshole? Kinda makes me glad I wound up spending $250 on a new front end then ever having the misfortune of wasting my time with the likes of you children.
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 29, 2007, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: ""85 Day Jerk""
Holy Shit! So you are the guy that Ms B called me about and asked me if I could drive to Orlando (or was it Jacksonville?) to help out. I was unable to oblige because 3 weeks of driving back and forth to Dunedin when it rained most every night, while working for Neilsen Media had pretty much destroyed my rack and pinion on my Celica.
And THAT proves to me that you're either delusional or just a plain ole liar. The reason you didn't go was that I never came to pick you up. The thought of riding for 3 hours in a car with you alone just creeped me out too much. So I called Mike back and asked if he knew anyone else that could go with me. Mike called Eddie and I picked up Eddie instead, to avoid having to deal with you. You were never told this because we were trying to be polite. I felt guilty back then about leaving you hanging. I didn't call you back to let you know I wasn't coming to pick you up, but I just didn't know what to say. I guess I should have told you waaay back then that you gave me the willies..
Quote
"What's that got to do with anything you ask?" Well quite simply this, when Ms. B needed my help, I was Dudley Do-right, I was Bob, plain and simple, so you gotta ask yourself this question. If I happened to have come to your rescue that weekend, who woulda got to be the asshole? Kinda makes me glad I wound up spending $250 on a new front end then ever having the misfortune of wasting my time with the likes of you children.
Bullshit, see above. It wasn't my idea to call you in the first place. It was Mike's because we didn't know of anyone else close by. I ended up driving 45 minutes out of my way and riding in the car with a non-stop talker just to avoid having to deal with you. At least Eddie didn't have that creepy factor about him. And RTP turned out to be one of the best friends I've ever had. That was the first time we went by to see Newt. Turned out to be a great weekend.
Post by: Anne Bonney on August 29, 2007, 07:55:56 AM
Quote from: ""RTP2003""
Quote from: ""85 Day Jerk""Okay, take the drugs away and then tell me about this wonderful friendship you have.............you cant. Hunter S. Thompson said it best, "NEVER TRUST DRUG PEOPLE AND NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON A DRUG." The last time I saw your "friend" was in Pinellas Park Florida in 2004. Her ribs were showing, her hair was wild, and I did'nt even get to say hello to her really, because she was to busy frantically apologizing to a woman from Sarasota that she burned for a couple hundred dollars who was ready to kick her ass.
Well, where do I begin? Maybe three years ago when I was feeling a bit more suicidal than usual, and she took me into her house, and offered up some iced tea and sympathy? She damn well may have saved my life back then.....whether this is a good thing or not, well, the jury is still out on that. I can tell you that the esteemed Ms. Bonney is one of the closest friends I have, and that our drug use together has been of the "soft" kind.....a little weed and maybe a beer or two. In fact, she has expressed concern over my drug use on more than one occasion. Take the drugs out of the equation, which I CAN do, and we still have a very close friendship. And Bob, quoting Hunter S. Thompson to make an anti-drug point is a lot like quoting Adolf Hitler to bolster a point about tolerance of other cultures.
I don't know what your fucking vendetta against Anne is about, or why you seem to be acting like some guy that asks for a girl's # andgets shot down whenever you have anything to say to or about her, but I can assure you that while Anne and I have enjoyed the occasional toke together, I am positive that if either one of us were to quit smoking, the other would still consider them a friend. Our friendship is not based on drugs, but on trivial shit like, oh, mutual respect, understanding, and a genuine concern for the other's well being. I have one hell of a lot more respect for her than I do for you, not that I expect you to understand that in the slightest. I don't know what your fucking problem is, but rest assured that when you go on tirades against her like the recent one, you merely make yourself look like an idiot, a dumbass that no one in their right mind, or even their most stoned-to-the-gills fucked-up mind, would care to associate with. In a way, I pity you, because you obviously have never been able to connect with another human being the way some of us have been able to connect with each other. Anne Bonney is a friend of mine, I am proud to say, and I've been able to talk to her about many many different things, drugs included, but not exclusively so. Hell, she doesn't even DO drugs, at least not to the point I would consider makes her a "drug person". I do, I make no bones about that fact, hell, I boast of my chemical derangement pretty frequently on these boards. The fact that you can't see past her dismissal of you, one I think is thouroughly justified and definitely the right move for her to make, indicates to me that you are, and possibly always will be, a boring, spiteful fuck. Ki8nd of like the pathetic old drunk at the bar that is forever whining about the "one that got away", only you never "got" the one in the first place.
Lay off of Anne and quit acting like an asshole.
Awww, you're gonna make me cry. I love you too darlin'.
:D ::kiss::
and you give me way too much credit.
Post by: BROWNIE on August 30, 2007, 05:39:15 PM
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Post by: Anne Bonney on August 31, 2007, 12:24:20 PM
KISS MY ASS.
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And remember..........
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AND STOP YELLING AT ME.
::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao::
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2007, 04:54:55 PM
Post by: BROWNIE on September 01, 2007, 07:42:46 PM
!XOXOXOXOXOXOXO
"Anne Bonney"]STEVE BROWN............
KISS MY ASS.
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And remember..........
(http://http://images.cafepress.com/product/54931555v2_240x240_Front.jpg)
AND STOP YELLING AT ME.
::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao::[/quote]
Post by: webdiva on September 01, 2007, 08:26:44 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
And remember..........
(http://http://images.cafepress.com/product/54931555v2_240x240_Front.jpg)
ms bonney? the above? just applies to christians right? i mean jesus isn't watching all of us. Right? just them. right ??? lol
Post by: BROWNIE on September 02, 2007, 01:31:57 AM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
And remember..........
(http://http://images.cafepress.com/product/54931555v2_240x240_Front.jpg)
ms bonney? the above? just applies to christians right? i mean jesus isn't watching all of us. Right? just them. right ??? lol
Post by: BROWNIE on September 02, 2007, 01:36:38 AM
And remember..........
(http://http://images.cafepress.com/product/54931555v2_240x240_Front.jpg)
[/quote]
ms bonney? the above? just applies to christians right? i mean jesus isn't watching all of us. Right? just them. right ??? lol[/quote]
Post by: webdiva on September 02, 2007, 01:42:01 AM
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""
L0L :-P U KNOW DAMN WELL JESUS KNOWS ABOUR E*IKA
about my what? E*IKA ?
and how would jesus or jose know about what i do unless they are peeking in my window at night? i dont understand! that would be very rude of them. lol
Post by: BROWNIE on September 02, 2007, 09:10:28 AM
Quote from: "webdiva"
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""L0L :-P U KNOW DAMN WELL JESUS KNOWS ABOUR E*IKA
about my what? E*IKA ?
and how would jesus or jose know about what i do unless they are peeking in my window at night? i dont understand! that would be very rude of them. lol
MY GAL, SWEETIE. LOL
HAVE A GREAT DAY !
LOVE,
STEVE
Post by: RTP2003 on September 02, 2007, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""
ANN IF YOUR ASS LOOKED THAT GOOD, I WOULD MARRY U. THAT WAY, I JUST NEED 2 REMEMBER 2 PUT A BAG OVER YOUR HEAD B 4 I SCREW YOU. and I am not YELLINGI AM N LOVE WITH U M LET'S HAVE MAKE-UP SEX
!XOXOXOXOXOXOXO
YOU STEPCRAFT SPOUTING RETARD!!!!! I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS SO YOU CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT A COMPLETE WASTE OF DNA AND OXYGEN YOU ARE. THE BEST PART OF YOU RAN DOWN YOUR MAMA'S LEG A LONG TIME AGO.
ANNE's GOT A HELL OF A LOT MORE CLASS THAN YOU EVER WILL, AND FOR SOME REASON I DON'T THINK A CRETIN LIKE YOU WOULD APPEAL TO HER.
NOW GO FUCKING PRAY.
THEN CALL YOUR GODDAMN SPONSOR.
I SWEAR, ASSHOLES LIKE YOU MAKE ME THANKFUL FOR FUCKING HEROIN. I COULD DEAL WITH ONE OR TWO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORLD IS FULL OF IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF. FUCKING TARD. BEAT IT FOR JESUS, I KNOW YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF HIM WATCHING YOU........THEN GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC, OK?????
Post by: BROWNIE on September 02, 2007, 09:18:11 AM
Quote from: "webdiva"
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""L0L :-P U KNOW DAMN WELL JESUS KNOWS ABOUR E*IKA
about my what? E*IKA ?
and how would jesus or jose know about what i do unless they are peeking in my window at night? i dont understand! that would be very rude of them. lol
BESIDES , WHEN I'M THE "PEEPING TOM ALL I C IS SOME SWEET GAL GOING COMMANDO. THEN I GO HOME N TOSS-N-TURN, :oops:
Post by: RTP2003 on September 02, 2007, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: ""RTP2003""
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""ANN IF YOUR ASS LOOKED THAT GOOD, I WOULD MARRY U. THAT WAY, I JUST NEED 2 REMEMBER 2 PUT A BAG OVER YOUR HEAD B 4 I SCREW YOU. and I am not YELLINGI AM N LOVE WITH U M LET'S HAVE MAKE-UP SEX
!XOXOXOXOXOXOXO
YOU STEPCRAFT SPOUTING RETARD!!!!! I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS SO YOU CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT A COMPLETE WASTE OF DNA AND OXYGEN YOU ARE. THE BEST PART OF YOU RAN DOWN YOUR MAMA'S LEG A LONG TIME AGO.
ANNE's GOT A HELL OF A LOT MORE CLASS THAN YOU EVER WILL, AND FOR SOME REASON I DON'T THINK A CRETIN LIKE YOU WOULD APPEAL TO HER.
NOW GO FUCKING PRAY.
THEN CALL YOUR GODDAMN SPONSOR.
I SWEAR, ASSHOLES LIKE YOU MAKE ME THANKFUL FOR FUCKING HEROIN. I COULD DEAL WITH ONE OR TWO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORLD IS FULL OF IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF. FUCKING TARD. BEAT IT FOR JESUS, I KNOW YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF HIM WATCHING YOU........THEN GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC, OK?????
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2007, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
UndiTops!!!!! Please excuse the handmade sign. There was a bike night that came up on me before I had my regular sign made up.
No, that's not me. It's a friend of mine. She had the tits to really show how they're supposed to fit. I don't.
:roll: :rofl:
DAMN...who the heck is your friend? She married? LOL...invite her to the next protest!!
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Post by: Anne Bonney on September 02, 2007, 12:31:48 PM
They came down and we went out on the boat, this was his first time out on it. That's something that was always really special between my father and I. He has had me on the water since I was born and there's always been that connection between us. My husband and I have an older, very traditional looking boat...just the kind my father loves and yesterday was un-friggin-believable. It was great. We slipped right back to the short-hand and unspoken communication of boating where you know what the other means or need without having to say it and we never missed a beat. I know he has missed that a lot, his wife never did catch on to where it was second nature and Dad loves getting into that "groove". I felt so much of the anger, sadness and grief slip away. We've talked off and on about the issues that kept us apart for so long, but not in so much detail. But this day, this boat trip did more for us in that unspoken way than anything else we could have done. I feel like I left a huge rock that had been around my neck for so many years, out in the bay.
If my father can come around, there's hope for ANYone out there.
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 02, 2007, 12:43:54 PM
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""
ANN IF YOUR ASS LOOKED THAT GOOD, I WOULD MARRY U. THAT WAY, I JUST NEED 2 REMEMBER 2 PUT A BAG OVER YOUR HEAD B 4 I SCREW YOU. and I am not YELLINGI AM N LOVE WITH U M LET'S HAVE MAKE-UP SEX
!XOXOXOXOXOXOXO
Steve, as you well know, if you type in all caps that means you're yelling. Please stop, I'm not screaming at you.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1100 ... ation.html (http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1100/masturbation.html)
Pastor Orders Christian Men to Only Think About Jesus While Masturbating
Local News
Freehold, Iowa - The Landover Conference of Deacons last week passed one of the most controversial resolutions of the church's 200-year history. The organization has once again lessened restrictions on self-gratification. All church members know that the controversy on this issue reached a new height last year when Landover lowered the allowable age of masturbation to 65 for recent widowers. The church has revised that policy yet again. "We really had no choice," noted a tired and distraught Pastor Deacon Fred during a news conference held shortly after the decision was reached. "Last month, several middle-aged divorced men challenged the church policy. They claimed that because they can never remarry (since to do so would constitute adultery-Matthew 5:32), and because they cannot have non-marital sex (since fornication ensures eternity in Hell-1 Corinthians 6:9-10), they should at least be allowed to defile their bodies as a consolation. Needless to say, we put very little stock in the words of men who would put their wives away. But they challenged us to find any Bible verse prohibiting masturbation. After 72 hours of searching the Lord's Word, we came up empty-handed, if you'll pardon the expression. We even consulted 17th century Bible scholar, Brother Harry Hardwick, but he, too, could find nothing prohibiting flesh-pulling. Everyone knows that all Landover rules come straight from the Bible. We don't ignore the parts we don't like, as the John 3:16 pseudo-Christians do, nor do we add to the Bible, like those Pope-loving Catholics."
The new policy is not without its limitations, however. "While the Bible does not outlaw masturbation, it severely restricts the circumstances under which it may occur," noted Pastor Deacon Fred. The first restriction is that no Landover gentleman will be permitted to reach the stage of ejaculation. "The Bible is very clear that a man's seed is for copulation only," noted Pastor. "In fact, the Bible says that when Onan chose not to copulate and instead released his seed on the ground, God was so angry that he struck Onan dead (Genesis 38:9-10). The last thing we need is some media scandal as reporters click photos of colored janitors removing corpses from Landover restrooms." Recognizing that a few men may err and sin by not stopping in time, the new policy requires all who decide to participate in the act to register with Pastor Deacon Fred. Specially made Tupperware seed-containers will be signed out of his office by Mrs. Watkins who will be keeping a record to guard against overuse. The sinner must catch his mistake in his numbered container before it reaches the ground. All containers are to be returned to Mrs. Watkins within one hour of check-out. The contents will be collected each week in a larger vat and provided to Mary Lou's Christian Salon where it will be used to treat dry, scaly skin.
The second restriction is that no man will be permitted to have any sexual thoughts during the process. "The apostles told us repeatedly that Jesus forbids lust, since sex is for baby-making, not anxiety release," continued Pastor. "We are to 'abstain from fleshly lusts' (1 Peter 2:11) and 'flee also youthful lusts' (2 Timothy 2:22), for lust 'bringeth forth death' (James 1:15). And more to the point for those debauched divorcees, Matthew told us that 'whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart' (Matthew 5:28). This means that masturbation of an erect organ can occur only if the erection is naturally-induced, such as by the morning sun or an overfilled bladder." Pastor Deacon Fred then concluded, "The only way to masturbate without lust is to keep your mind on Christ at all times."
The new policy instantly drew the ire of countless Landover members. Longstanding church member, Mrs. Judy O'Christian, was incensed. Despite being a woman, Mrs. O'Christian was allowed to speak since the press conference was held outside the chapel. "As co-chairs of the Ladies of Landover Welcoming Committee, Sister Taffy and I have to greet all new church members," she pleaded. "This policy means we will have to destroy our silk gloves every time we shake hands with a male member . . . ah, church member, that is. Halston doesn't sell accessories in six-packs, you know."
Pastor Deacon Fred attempted to assuage the ladies' concerns. "This policy will in no way open the floodgates, so to speak. Punishment for violations of the new restrictions will be swift and certain. The Bible says that if a part of our body offends us, we must cut it off (Matthew 5:29-30). Any man found to have engaged in sexual thoughts during the process, or to have reached full fruition without capturing the full emission, will have his organ severed and his preferred hand amputated. And every man will know that when that happens, his destiny is Hell, for as God told us: "He that is wounded in the stones or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord" (Deuteronomy 23:1). Rest assured, God takes no stock in the Satanic adage: "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.".
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 02, 2007, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
ms bonney? the above? just applies to christians right? i mean jesus isn't watching all of us. Right? just them. right ??? lol
Yep, we're the unchosen. Party on Diva. In fact, I just got some lovely birthday gifts that I'd love to share with my Vet friends. Online party....smoke 'em (or drink or swallow or slam) if ya got 'em.
::cheers:: ::cheers:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :nworthy: :nworthy: ::rocker:: ::rocker:: ::drummer:: ::seg:: ::seg:: ::seg:: ::bwahaha:: ::bwahaha:: ::bwahaha2:: ::bigsmilebounce:: ::birthday:: ::birthday:: ::birthday:: ::cheers:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :smokin: ::bandit::
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 02, 2007, 12:51:18 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
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Sorry, thanks.
:D
Post by: webdiva on September 02, 2007, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""
Quote from: ""webdiva""Quote from: ""BROWNIE""L0L :-P U KNOW DAMN WELL JESUS KNOWS ABOUR E*IKA
about my what? E*IKA ?
and how would jesus or jose know about what i do unless they are peeking in my window at night? i dont understand! that would be very rude of them. lol
MY GAL, SWEETIE. LOL
HAVE A GREAT DAY !
LOVE,
STEVE
oh ok.. i can see what that has to do with jesus and masturbation thanks for the clarification "sweetie"
and be Nice to Ms. Bonney SHE is a sweetie.
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2007, 02:54:21 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Steve, as you well know, if you type in all caps that means you're yelling. Please stop, I'm not screaming at you.
he has to type on call caps so he can see the lovely words he's typing to people, didn't you know? lol seriously. The stroke caused issues with the eyes, among other things. i think his ability to act older then 15 has always been a problem though.
Post by: webdiva on September 02, 2007, 03:00:04 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""webdiva""ms bonney? the above? just applies to christians right? i mean jesus isn't watching all of us. Right? just them. right ??? lol
Yep, we're the unchosen. Party on Diva. In fact, I just got some lovely birthday gifts that I'd love to share with my Vet friends. Online party....smoke 'em (or drink or swallow or slam) if ya got 'em.
::cheers:: ::cheers:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :nworthy: :nworthy: ::rocker:: ::rocker:: ::drummer:: ::seg:: ::seg:: ::seg:: ::bwahaha:: ::bwahaha:: ::bwahaha2:: ::bigsmilebounce:: ::birthday:: ::birthday:: ::birthday:: ::cheers:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :smokin: ::bandit::
i was once lost, and then was found when I allowed my brain to be washed by a fanatical christian church.
then i woke up realizing the error of my ways. i wasn't lost at all, i realized.
so i went back home to that place of content confusion and not having to have the answer to every question my mind can come up with. and i have been extremely happy since.
And the man jesus i'm sure would be partying with us and laughing at what they've chosen to turn him into simply because he used his mind. :o God forbid we think for ourselves. :rofl: :rofl:
ok sorry lecture time is over, now pass the fucking joint! :rofl:
Post by: webdiva on September 02, 2007, 03:09:49 PM
Quote from: ""RTP2003""
I SWEAR, ASSHOLES LIKE YOU MAKE ME THANKFUL FOR FUCKING HEROIN. I COULD DEAL WITH ONE OR TWO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORLD IS FULL OF IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF. FUCKING TARD. BEAT IT FOR JESUS, I KNOW YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF HIM WATCHING YOU........THEN GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC, OK?????
Steve,
I would have to agree with Mark. Steve, do you even KNOW Anne or were you just unable to keep yourself from typing rude words to someone you don't even know?
That was quite RUDE steve. The bag comment was lame considering your position especially.
Would you like it if someone said something like that to Erica? I think not.
You may want to consider treating women, all women, the same way you hope people would treat your "girlfriend". I seriously doubt she would even appreciate what you said to Ms. Bonney. Who is a wonderful person so that just proves you haven't a clue who she is and chose to practice NO self control. My guess is it has something to do with my friend MARK being friend's with Anne. Of course MARK is a wonderful person as well. So if you don't like people who like Mark, you might as well add me to the list.
I have plenty of bags in the cupboard, air tight, I'll mail them to you, play with them. They even have diagrams to show you how to put the bag on your head.
Pay no attn. to the circle and line that means GO. See picture below for reference. I'll get them in the mail promptly!
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 02, 2007, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
i think his ability to act older then 15 has always been a problem though.
It would appear so.
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 02, 2007, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""Quote from: ""webdiva""ms bonney? the above? just applies to christians right? i mean jesus isn't watching all of us. Right? just them. right ??? lol
Yep, we're the unchosen. Party on Diva. In fact, I just got some lovely birthday gifts that I'd love to share with my Vet friends. Online party....smoke 'em (or drink or swallow or slam) if ya got 'em.
::cheers:: ::cheers:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :nworthy: :nworthy: ::rocker:: ::rocker:: ::drummer:: ::seg:: ::seg:: ::seg:: ::bwahaha:: ::bwahaha:: ::bwahaha2:: ::bigsmilebounce:: ::birthday:: ::birthday:: ::birthday:: ::cheers:: :smokin: ::bandit:: :smokin: ::bandit::
i was once lost, and then was found when I allowed my brain to be washed by a fanatical christian church.
then i woke up realizing the error of my ways. i wasn't lost at all, i realized.
so i went back home to that place of content confusion and not having to have the answer to every question my mind can come up with. and i have been extremely happy since.
And the man jesus i'm sure would be partying with us and laughing at what they've chosen to turn him into simply because he used his mind. :o God forbid we think for ourselves. :rofl: :rofl:
ok sorry lecture time is over, now pass the fucking joint! :rofl:
You got it......... 'ere!
:smokin: ::bandit::
Just ordered this....
http://www.gotvape.com/store/Vapor_Doc_Vapor_Cannon.php (http://www.gotvape.com/store/Vapor_Doc_Vapor_Cannon.php)
(http://http://www.gotvape.com/images/vapor_doc_hands_free.jpg)
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 02, 2007, 03:35:37 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Quote from: ""RTP2003""
I SWEAR, ASSHOLES LIKE YOU MAKE ME THANKFUL FOR FUCKING HEROIN. I COULD DEAL WITH ONE OR TWO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORLD IS FULL OF IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF. FUCKING TARD. BEAT IT FOR JESUS, I KNOW YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF HIM WATCHING YOU........THEN GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC, OK?????
Steve,
I would have to agree with Mark. Steve, do you even KNOW Anne or were you just unable to keep yourself from typing rude words to someone you don't even know?
No, he has never met me either in person or online. He has no idea who I am, he just likes to jump into arguments he has nothing to do with to make him feel a part of something.
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That was quite RUDE steve. The bag comment was lame considering your position especially.
Actually, my husband got a big kick out of that. He's a "lights on" kind of guy and loves to see my face at certain moments. :wink:
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Would you like it if someone said something like that to Erica? I think not.
You may want to consider treating women, all women, the same way you hope people would treat your "girlfriend". I seriously doubt she would even appreciate what you said to Ms. Bonney. Who is a wonderful person so that just proves you haven't a clue who she is and chose to practice NO self control.
I would have to agree based on what I've seen him post here and on the Alum Yahoo site.
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My guess is it has something to do with my friend MARK being friend's with Anne. Of course MARK is a wonderful person as well. So if you don't like people who like Mark, you might as well add me to the list.
I think you're onto something.
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I have plenty of bags in the cupboard, air tight, I'll mail them to you, play with them. They even have diagrams to show you how to put the bag on your head.
Pay no attn. to the circle and line that means GO. See picture below for reference. I'll get them in the mail promptly!
::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao::
Post by: BROWNIE on September 02, 2007, 09:12:03 PM
I WAS WRONG. THE REASON I POST N ALL CAPS IS THAT I C DOUBLE. IT'S EASIER 4 ME 2 C. I GOT MAD WHEN U DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
PEACE
i think his ability to act older then 15 has always been a problem though.[/quote]
It would appear so.[/quote]
Post by: hanzomon4 on September 02, 2007, 09:16:51 PM
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 02, 2007, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""
LOOK, ANNE
I WAS WRONG. THE REASON I POST N ALL CAPS IS THAT I C DOUBLE. IT'S EASIER 4 ME 2 C. I GOT MAD WHEN U DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
PEACE
Whatever Steve. You posted your little "I don't like you" picture before I said anything to you AT ALL, let alone about your caps.
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2007, 03:04:16 AM
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""
LOOK, ANNE
I WAS WRONG. THE REASON I POST N ALL CAPS IS THAT I C DOUBLE. IT'S EASIER 4 ME 2 C. I GOT MAD WHEN U DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
PEACE
i think his ability to act older then 15 has always been a problem though.
It would appear so.[/quote][/quote]
Having a stroke does not give you the right to post rude comments or act like an asshole. If you're ok enough to be posting in a forum than you are ok enough to realize when you've gone to far, which you have done on more than one occasion and then tried the " im sorry you misunderstood me" route, which is just another excuse. Stop making stupid comments to people you don't even know and go back to your"girlfriend", the one with the air valve in her side
Post by: Froderik on September 03, 2007, 08:38:41 AM
I say IGNORE this shit from Steve from now on..
I know, easier said than done...
Post by: webdiva on September 03, 2007, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Just ordered this....
http://www.gotvape.com/store/Vapor_Doc_Vapor_Cannon.php (http://www.gotvape.com/store/Vapor_Doc_Vapor_Cannon.php)
(http://http://www.gotvape.com/images/vapor_doc_hands_free.jpg)
ive gone through 2 of those! :) they are the shit! and good for your lungs :D
Post by: webdiva on September 03, 2007, 09:04:05 AM
Quote from: ""hanzomon4""
Hey, you can increase the font size of webpages in your browser, might help..
you make an EXCELLENT point.
Post by: Froderik on September 03, 2007, 09:08:22 AM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
ive gone through 2 of those! :) they are the shit! and good for your lungs :D
$159?? They better be the shit..lol..
How long did each unit last? Why did they need replacing?
Post by: webdiva on September 03, 2007, 09:20:25 AM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
Quote from: ""webdiva""ive gone through 2 of those! :) they are the shit! and good for your lungs :D$159?? They better be the shit..lol..
How long did each unit last? Why did they need replacing?
if you take care of it they can last for 10 years. truly. The first one got broken during a party. oops... and then 2nd one disappeared. lol so yeah not the norm but they rock or I wouldn't have bothered replacing mine, twice! lol
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 03, 2007, 10:03:12 AM
They are a little pricey, but I'm splitting the cost w/ someone, that makes it a lil easier to take.
Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for a little wake n bake.
:smokin: ::bandit:: ::seg::
Post by: webdiva on September 03, 2007, 10:14:17 AM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
I posted a few weeks ago that I was looking for a good vape and asked for recommendations. A couple of friends have these and they're generally pretty happy with them. I guess you've got to replace the glass every now and then, but that's the worst I've heard.
They are a little pricey, but I'm splitting the cost w/ someone, that makes it a lil easier to take.
Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for a little wake n bake.
:smokin: ::bandit:: ::seg::
oh you are making a good investment, its one of the cheapest vaporizers on the market except for the new handheld ones. you can make butter w/ it after you've vaped and it will still pack quite a punch.
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 03, 2007, 10:18:42 AM
(http://http://www.gotvape.com/images/air_one3_combo.jpg)
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 03, 2007, 01:38:53 PM
Quote from: ""Froderik""
Quote from: ""webdiva""ive gone through 2 of those! :) they are the shit! and good for your lungs :D$159?? They better be the shit..lol..
How long did each unit last? Why did they need replacing?
I didn't pay anywhere near $159. Ebay stores are wonderful things.
::seg:: ::bandit::
Should be here in a few days. I'll let you know how it is. I had one a few years back, but no temp control.
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2007, 01:45:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2007, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: ""BROWNIE""
ANN IF YOUR ASS LOOKED THAT GOOD, I WOULD MARRY U.
It looks better. And I hear she's already taken. Poor STEVE...........
Post by: webdiva on September 03, 2007, 06:57:03 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
I almost got this one, but I kept hearing about Vapordoc (I guess GotVape has taken over for them). I like the portability of Vapir One, but I didn't trust the temp. adjustments.
(http://http://www.gotvape.com/images/air_one3_combo.jpg)
actually they have a hand held wooden pipe now that is a vaporizor :)
http://www.gotvape.com/store/vaporgenie.vaporizer.php (http://www.gotvape.com/store/vaporgenie.vaporizer.php)
I have one. thats much better for the portable situations, no batteries required. :)
Post by: hanzomon4 on September 03, 2007, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
I posted a few weeks ago that I was looking for a good vape and asked for recommendations. A couple of friends have these and they're generally pretty happy with them. I guess you've got to replace the glass every now and then, but that's the worst I've heard.
They are a little pricey, but I'm splitting the cost w/ someone, that makes it a lil easier to take.
Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for a little wake n bake.
:smokin: ::bandit:: ::seg::
What do these things do?
Post by: webdiva on September 03, 2007, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: ""hanzomon4""
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""I posted a few weeks ago that I was looking for a good vape and asked for recommendations. A couple of friends have these and they're generally pretty happy with them. I guess you've got to replace the glass every now and then, but that's the worst I've heard.
They are a little pricey, but I'm splitting the cost w/ someone, that makes it a lil easier to take.
Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for a little wake n bake.
:smokin: ::bandit:: ::seg::
What do these things do?
Instead of burning the weed and causing smoke, which fucks up your lungs. The high heat causes the thc to "vaporize" if you will, kind of like a nice fine "mist" but no smoke. If you do it right.
So you are getting the same effect without any combustion or nasty shit in your lungs. Course nothing beats a bowl of nasty (nasty in this case is good) herb though. LOL I could never "just" vaporize, it is a different high for me at least. But it is a nice change of pace and if you're someone who appreciates the medicinal value of weed, you can still benefit from it if you can't "SMOKE" because you're coughing your ass off from a cold! lol.
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 03, 2007, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Quote from: ""hanzomon4""Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""I posted a few weeks ago that I was looking for a good vape and asked for recommendations. A couple of friends have these and they're generally pretty happy with them. I guess you've got to replace the glass every now and then, but that's the worst I've heard.
They are a little pricey, but I'm splitting the cost w/ someone, that makes it a lil easier to take.
Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for a little wake n bake.
:smokin: ::bandit:: ::seg::
What do these things do?
Instead of burning the weed and causing smoke, which fucks up your lungs. The high heat causes the thc to "vaporize" if you will, kind of like a nice fine "mist" but no smoke. If you do it right.
So you are getting the same effect without any combustion or nasty shit in your lungs. Course nothing beats a bowl of nasty (nasty in this case is good) herb though. LOL I could never "just" vaporize, it is a different high for me at least. But it is a nice change of pace and if you're someone who appreciates the medicinal value of weed, you can still benefit from it if you can't "SMOKE" because you're coughing your ass off from a cold! lol.
Yep, what she said. It really is therapeutic for me. Recreational too, no doubt, but I wouldn't sleep without it. Well, I might sleep, but the side effects of sleeping pills are not conducive to my well being. :wink:
I've had all kinds of docs all through the years prescribe this or that and all its ever brought me is more misery. I've been dulled by antidepressants, wiped out by benzos, physically hooked on opiates and in general fucked my BigPharma, trying to follow the sage advice of all the professionals. Marijuana, I can pretty much say unequivocally, saved my life. In more ways than one.
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php (http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php)
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/ (http://www.drugwarfacts.org/)
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 03, 2007, 10:03:23 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
actually they have a hand held wooden pipe now that is a vaporizor :)
http://www.gotvape.com/store/vaporgenie.vaporizer.php (http://www.gotvape.com/store/vaporgenie.vaporizer.php)
I have one. thats much better for the portable situations, no batteries required. :)
Hmm. I'll have to check that out. Thx.
Post by: webdiva on September 03, 2007, 10:14:53 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""webdiva""Quote from: ""hanzomon4""Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""I posted a few weeks ago that I was looking for a good vape and asked for recommendations. A couple of friends have these and they're generally pretty happy with them. I guess you've got to replace the glass every now and then, but that's the worst I've heard.
They are a little pricey, but I'm splitting the cost w/ someone, that makes it a lil easier to take.
Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for a little wake n bake.
:smokin: ::bandit:: ::seg::
What do these things do?
Instead of burning the weed and causing smoke, which fucks up your lungs. The high heat causes the thc to "vaporize" if you will, kind of like a nice fine "mist" but no smoke. If you do it right.
So you are getting the same effect without any combustion or nasty shit in your lungs. Course nothing beats a bowl of nasty (nasty in this case is good) herb though. LOL I could never "just" vaporize, it is a different high for me at least. But it is a nice change of pace and if you're someone who appreciates the medicinal value of weed, you can still benefit from it if you can't "SMOKE" because you're coughing your ass off from a cold! lol.
Yep, what she said. It really is therapeutic for me. Recreational too, no doubt, but I wouldn't sleep without it. Well, I might sleep, but the side effects of sleeping pills are not conducive to my well being. :wink:
I've had all kinds of docs all through the years prescribe this or that and all its ever brought me is more misery. I've been dulled by antidepressants, wiped out by benzos, physically hooked on opiates and in general fucked my BigPharma, trying to follow the sage advice of all the professionals. Marijuana, I can pretty much say unequivocally, saved my life. In more ways than one.
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php (http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php)
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/ (http://www.drugwarfacts.org/)
Funny you should mention BigPharma. yet another way to control kids. I just watched this today. All stuff we know but really good. its almost 2 hours long.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/147.html (http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/147.html)
i myself use herb to help sleep at times. i made the mistake once of taking 2mg of xanax every night for about a month, to sleep. I was very disappointed in myself because I am usually so good at researching any drug I put into my body. Anyway I had never been into valium or benzos etc beyond the once in a blue moon.
Well after 1 month of taking xans to sleep I ran out and thought nothing of it. LOL yeah... then I discovered the wonderful world of benzo withdrawal. I truly though i was going to die or kill myself or go insane or something.
Thankfully after about 3 days I was able to get on something much milder and ween myself off. But god damn. I had no idea. And i cant imagine some kid suddenly being cut off from medication like this and being able to deal. It was the worst 3 days of my life although I'm glad I experienced it and I do not know how I would have been able to handle it had I not been able to ween myself off it.
I always heard it was on of if not the hardest drug to quit, because of the withdrawal, now i understand. I weened myself off completely over a two years ago and I still have some side effects. I never had a panic attack until after taking xanax. How ironic.
anyway sorry went off on a tangent there lol
Post by: hanzomon4 on September 03, 2007, 10:28:06 PM
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 03, 2007, 10:30:05 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Funny you should mention BigPharma. yet another way to control kids. I just watched this today. All stuff we know but really good. its almost 2 hours long.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/147.html (http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/147.html)
i myself use herb to help sleep at times. i made the mistake once of taking 2mg of xanax every night for about a month, to sleep. I was very disappointed in myself because I am usually so good at researching any drug I put into my body. Anyway I had never been into valium or benzos etc beyond the once in a blue moon.
Well after 1 month of taking xans to sleep I ran out and thought nothing of it. LOL yeah... then I discovered the wonderful world of benzo withdrawal. I truly though i was going to die or kill myself or go insane or something.
Thankfully after about 3 days I was able to get on something much milder and ween myself off. But god damn. I had no idea. And i cant imagine some kid suddenly being cut off from medication like this and being able to deal. It was the worst 3 days of my life although I'm glad I experienced it and I do not know how I would have been able to handle it had I not been able to ween myself off it.
I always heard it was on of if not the hardest drug to quit, because of the withdrawal, now i understand. I weened myself off completely over a two years ago and I still have some side effects. I never had a panic attack until after taking xanax. How ironic.
anyway sorry went off on a tangent there lol
Hands down, methadone is the hardest to quit. My wonderful doctors, after getting me hooked on vicodin/percocet/oxy etc. decided it would be better if I just had the straight opiate instead of adding the NSAIDS. I was in so much pain between 2 TMJ surgeries (jaw used to lock open a couple times a week) and a lumbar injury that eventually required surgery too, that I didn't give a shit.
Until they stopped. My doctor decides he wants to go into 'research' and farms his patients out to sub humans. Oh what a fun few weeks, yes WEEKS that was. I thought I would die.
No, seriously. Die. But I didn't. Now I do what I want, I'm smart about it and so far (knock wood), life doesn't suck.
Post by: webdiva on September 03, 2007, 11:03:28 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Funny you should mention BigPharma. yet another way to control kids. I just watched this today. All stuff we know but really good. its almost 2 hours long.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/147.html (http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/147.html)
i myself use herb to help sleep at times. i made the mistake once of taking 2mg of xanax every night for about a month, to sleep. I was very disappointed in myself because I am usually so good at researching any drug I put into my body. Anyway I had never been into valium or benzos etc beyond the once in a blue moon.
Well after 1 month of taking xans to sleep I ran out and thought nothing of it. LOL yeah... then I discovered the wonderful world of benzo withdrawal. I truly though i was going to die or kill myself or go insane or something.
Thankfully after about 3 days I was able to get on something much milder and ween myself off. But god damn. I had no idea. And i cant imagine some kid suddenly being cut off from medication like this and being able to deal. It was the worst 3 days of my life although I'm glad I experienced it and I do not know how I would have been able to handle it had I not been able to ween myself off it.
I always heard it was on of if not the hardest drug to quit, because of the withdrawal, now i understand. I weened myself off completely over a two years ago and I still have some side effects. I never had a panic attack until after taking xanax. How ironic.
anyway sorry went off on a tangent there lol
Hands down, methadone is the hardest to quit. My wonderful doctors, after getting me hooked on vicodin/percocet/oxy etc. decided it would be better if I just had the straight opiate instead of adding the NSAIDS. I was in so much pain between 2 TMJ surgeries (jaw used to lock open a couple times a week) and a lumbar injury that eventually required surgery too, that I didn't give a shit.
Until they stopped. My doctor decides he wants to go into 'research' and farms his patients out to sub humans. Oh what a fun few weeks, yes WEEKS that was. I thought I would die.
No, seriously. Die. But I didn't. Now I do what I want, I'm smart about it and so far (knock wood), life doesn't suck.
oh yeah agreed. and i thought i was smart about it lol really only focused on researching "illegal" drugs that i put in my body though. wasnt even considering nor had i even paid much attention to what has been going on in the pharma industry since the mid 80s.
i only took methadone once, last november. i was ill and in a lot of pain. that drug almost killed me lol (thats anther story) but it damn sure might have saved my life too. I had a friend send me two, i hadn't slept in weeks and was damn near delirious. it removed the pain completely and i slept for like 20 hours. was able to clear my head enough to realize hmm maybe i should really go to the hospital now. lol yeah that was an adventure! :D
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 03, 2007, 11:08:38 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
oh yeah agreed. and i thought i was smart about it lol really only focused on researching "illegal" drugs that i put in my body though. wasnt even considering nor had i even paid much attention to what has been going on in the pharma industry since the mid 80s.
i only took methadone once, last november. i was ill and in a lot of pain. that drug almost killed me lol (thats anther story) but it damn sure might have saved my life too. I had a friend send me two, i hadn't slept in weeks and was damn near delirious. it removed the pain completely and i slept for like 20 hours. was able to clear my head enough to realize hmm maybe i should really go to the hospital now. lol yeah that was an adventure! :D
I hear ya. At first, it saved mine. No real side effects, took care of the pain while allowing me to function. It was great. Until I had to stop.
And i meant to write "methadone was the hardest for me. " I'm not discounting what others have been through with various pharmaceuticals.
Post by: webdiva on September 03, 2007, 11:25:08 PM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""webdiva""
oh yeah agreed. and i thought i was smart about it lol really only focused on researching "illegal" drugs that i put in my body though. wasnt even considering nor had i even paid much attention to what has been going on in the pharma industry since the mid 80s.
i only took methadone once, last november. i was ill and in a lot of pain. that drug almost killed me lol (thats anther story) but it damn sure might have saved my life too. I had a friend send me two, i hadn't slept in weeks and was damn near delirious. it removed the pain completely and i slept for like 20 hours. was able to clear my head enough to realize hmm maybe i should really go to the hospital now. lol yeah that was an adventure! :D
I hear ya. At first, it saved mine. No real side effects, took care of the pain while allowing me to function. It was great. Until I had to stop.
And i meant to write "methadone was the hardest for me. " I'm not discounting what others have been through with various pharmaceuticals.
yeah im glad i didn't require to stay on anything that strong. as to how it almost killed me.. my friend sent me two like i mentioned. he told me to take either about 1/4 of a pill or the whole thing. so i was like fuck it ill take 1/2 lol . course he knew if i took only 1/4 i probably would have been able to function, but any more then that, if you happen to "wake up still high" can be quite dangerous. SO had i taken the WHOLE pill i never would have woken up.
But i woke up when i fell out of my chair and hit the floor. lol no pain though, i was just sitting there waiting and it never came. So I got up and went to the bathroom. I look in the mirror and i pass out. My face hits the ceramic sink and there i am looking in the mirror again. No blood, no pain, coulda cracked my head open. was in awe but too fucked up to fully appreciate what almost happened. I figured it would be best if i went back on the couch before i killed myself. so i did. lol
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 03, 2007, 11:44:21 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
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yeah im glad i didn't require to stay on anything that strong. as to how it almost killed me.. my friend sent me two like i mentioned. he told me to take either about 1/4 of a pill or the whole thing. so i was like fuck it ill take 1/2 lol . course he knew if i took only 1/4 i probably would have been able to function, but any more then that, if you happen to "wake up still high" can be quite dangerous. SO had i taken the WHOLE pill i never would have woken up.
But i woke up when i fell out of my chair and hit the floor. lol no pain though, i was just sitting there waiting and it never came. So I got up and went to the bathroom. I look in the mirror and i pass out. My face hits the ceramic sink and there i am looking in the mirror again. No blood, no pain, coulda cracked my head open. was in awe but too fucked up to fully appreciate what almost happened. I figured it would be best if i went back on the couch before i killed myself. so i did. lol
:rofl: :rofl:
I did that on benzos, which is why I avoid them now. :D
I was on percs/vicodin for about 3 years before the insurance company would approve the surgery and then methadone for about 5 or 6 after that. Brutal to be sure.
So now I just smoke myself silly. :silly:
Post by: hanzomon4 on September 03, 2007, 11:52:25 PM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""Quote from: ""webdiva""
oh yeah agreed. and i thought i was smart about it lol really only focused on researching "illegal" drugs that i put in my body though. wasnt even considering nor had i even paid much attention to what has been going on in the pharma industry since the mid 80s.
i only took methadone once, last november. i was ill and in a lot of pain. that drug almost killed me lol (thats anther story) but it damn sure might have saved my life too. I had a friend send me two, i hadn't slept in weeks and was damn near delirious. it removed the pain completely and i slept for like 20 hours. was able to clear my head enough to realize hmm maybe i should really go to the hospital now. lol yeah that was an adventure! :D
I hear ya. At first, it saved mine. No real side effects, took care of the pain while allowing me to function. It was great. Until I had to stop.
And i meant to write "methadone was the hardest for me. " I'm not discounting what others have been through with various pharmaceuticals.
yeah im glad i didn't require to stay on anything that strong. as to how it almost killed me.. my friend sent me two like i mentioned. he told me to take either about 1/4 of a pill or the whole thing. so i was like fuck it ill take 1/2 lol . course he knew if i took only 1/4 i probably would have been able to function, but any more then that, if you happen to "wake up still high" can be quite dangerous. SO had i taken the WHOLE pill i never would have woken up.
But i woke up when i fell out of my chair and hit the floor. lol no pain though, i was just sitting there waiting and it never came. So I got up and went to the bathroom. I look in the mirror and i pass out. My face hits the ceramic sink and there i am looking in the mirror again. No blood, no pain, coulda cracked my head open. was in awe but too fucked up to fully appreciate what almost happened. I figured it would be best if i went back on the couch before i killed myself. so i did. lol
Good God, you had quiet the reaction. The strongest pain killer I've ever had was oxy and it didn't kill any pain exactly it just made me feel a lot better about it. I tried something else that I think was morphine but I only remember being really happy and having a lot of fun, what I did exactly is a blur. It was my first opioid and I only took it cause it said may cause drowsiness on the bottle and I hadn't sleep for days, never again have I had such a reaction.
Post by: webdiva on September 04, 2007, 12:06:27 AM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
So now I just smoke myself silly. :silly:
thats what amazes me weed gets such a bad rap. its so amazing medicinally, mentally, etc. yet doctors will write scripts for xanies without blinking. Nice to know they are concerned about the kids and not out to make a quick buck eh?
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 04, 2007, 12:14:24 AM
Quote from: ""webdiva""
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
So now I just smoke myself silly. :silly:
thats what amazes me weed gets such a bad rap. its so amazing medicinally, mentally, etc. yet doctors will write scripts for xanies without blinking. Nice to know they are concerned about the kids and not out to make a quick buck eh?
Yep. I'm amazed when I think back on all the crap they had me on, for both physical and mental issues. Now all I do is smoke. With my doctor's blessing, I might add. Although that's why I'm in the market for a vape. She's not happy at all about the smoking (cigarettes. they're gone soon). It's either the vape or cooking it.
::seg::
Post by: webdiva on September 04, 2007, 12:22:12 AM
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""webdiva""Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
So now I just smoke myself silly. :silly:
thats what amazes me weed gets such a bad rap. its so amazing medicinally, mentally, etc. yet doctors will write scripts for xanies without blinking. Nice to know they are concerned about the kids and not out to make a quick buck eh?
Yep. I'm amazed when I think back on all the crap they had me on, for both physical and mental issues. Now all I do is smoke. With my doctor's blessing, I might add. Although that's why I'm in the market for a vape. She's not happy at all about the smoking (cigarettes. they're gone soon). It's either the vape or cooking it.
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yeah i dont mind cooking with it (and i dont do brownies i prefer something like salmon, pasta and some damn good butter) LOL but yeah at least you have the ability to vape too. course if you move to cali you can grow your own plants! move already! LOL
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 04, 2007, 12:38:25 AM
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So now I just smoke myself silly. :silly:
thats what amazes me weed gets such a bad rap. its so amazing medicinally, mentally, etc. yet doctors will write scripts for xanies without blinking. Nice to know they are concerned about the kids and not out to make a quick buck eh?
Yep. I'm amazed when I think back on all the crap they had me on, for both physical and mental issues. Now all I do is smoke. With my doctor's blessing, I might add. Although that's why I'm in the market for a vape. She's not happy at all about the smoking (cigarettes. they're gone soon). It's either the vape or cooking it.
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yeah i dont mind cooking with it (and i dont do brownies i prefer something like salmon, pasta and some damn good butter) LOL but yeah at least you have the ability to vape too. course if you move to cali you can grow your own plants! move already! LOL
I know, but I'm too much of a cracker. 8-) We'll just end up selling the house (or leasing it, don't know yet), upgrading the boat and doing the live aboard thing. Until then, I've always got Key West. Hey, any town that has balls enough to secede http://www.conchrepublic.com/history.htm (http://www.conchrepublic.com/history.htm) , even in jest, and carry on an annual festival dedicated to drunken sailors, wenches and general wreaking of havoc is my kind of place.
Post by: webdiva on September 04, 2007, 12:41:51 AM
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 04, 2007, 12:47:11 AM
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hey you can grow plants on your boat too you cracker!! :D :rofl: :rofl:
Not if you're traveling much. Penalties are a lot different out there, especially if traveling out of the country. Too scary for me. I used to carry when I flew. Not anymore. So I have sleepless nights when I travel with my husband.
Well, who knows. Once I get out there I may find I'm freaking out about nothing.
Post by: 85 Day Jerk on September 04, 2007, 11:24:20 PM
Post by: webdiva on September 04, 2007, 11:36:54 PM
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Well, who knows. Once I get out there I may find I'm freaking out about nothing.
well i was kidding kinda but its much easier to dump a plant in the ocean when u see the coast guard coming hten it is to try to eat it! LOL
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 04, 2007, 11:42:08 PM
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Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""Well, who knows. Once I get out there I may find I'm freaking out about nothing.
well i was kidding kinda but its much easier to dump a plant in the ocean when u see the coast guard coming hten it is to try to eat it! LOL
True that! Ideally, we'd like to be able to travel around the Keys, Caribbean and Mexico. Big undertaking though. A couple we're friends with took two years off and traveled around C. America and the Caribbean. They were much more experienced than us though. True sailors. Ours is a powerboat. We're comfortable around the Keys and Gulf water from here to TX, but we're getting anxious to hit Bimini for the first time.
8-)
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 04, 2007, 11:44:17 PM
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Them "sleepless nights" must arrive from that time you got tired of keeping your big ass thighs together and the stank that emminated from betweencks your legs done gone and set off the stank detectors and made the fuckin oxygen masks fall from yonder ceiling of the aircraft you were flying on. That sho' must enough had been embarrassing enough for a burned out neighboorhood pump such as yourself...............
Oops. Must have really struck a nerve with DoughBoy this time.
:rofl:
Bob, Bob. Make up your mind. Am I a fat fuck like yourself or anorexic?
:roll:
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2007, 07:03:44 AM
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Them "sleepless nights" must arrive from that time you got tired of keeping your big ass thighs together and the stank that emminated from betweencks your legs done gone and set off the stank detectors and made the fuckin oxygen masks fall from yonder ceiling of the aircraft you were flying on. That sho' must enough had been embarrassing enough for a burned out neighboorhood pump such as yourself...............
No wonder you get laid so frequently!
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2007, 03:13:07 AM
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Them "sleepless nights" must arrive from that time you got tired of keeping your big ass thighs together and the stank that emminated from betweencks your legs done gone and set off the stank detectors and made the fuckin oxygen masks fall from yonder ceiling of the aircraft you were flying on. That sho' must enough had been embarrassing enough for a burned out neighboorhood pump such as yourself...............
What is your problem? you write this post about seeing your parents age and actually say some pretty good stuff in it, but then you come here and write something like this? why would you even feel the need to write such a nasty post, to anyone?
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2007, 08:01:46 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2007, 01:23:41 PM
Damn, AB, think of what you missed out on.........
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 06, 2007, 10:18:41 PM
Anyway, she read Help At Any Cost about a week ago, has been living with me talking about it and even asked her mom about it. Turns out, they almost put her in but said no when they were told they couldn't speak with her on first phase. Her father worked for Honeywell and that was a big source of inmates through the early EAP programs. My dad heard about it through the St. Pete Times EAP.
I was sitting here tonight with this friend and my youngest daughter. I was telling them about some of the adventures I've had with a friend over at Newton's house. All of a sudden, she starts crying and this is a woman who just does NOT cry. She's one of the toughest broads I know. I didn't get what was going on and she finally said that she just felt so bad that I went through all of that. I was the 'lightweight' of our group of friends. No one understood what happened and least of all why it was me out of all of us. She said "I had no idea. You just didn't deserve that. I can't believe what they did to you".. She had no idea what happened or to what extent things ended up until she's been living with us and read Maia's book.
I can't tell you what that did for me. To have someone that knew me before, knew what I was like, saw what it took.....to have her see that validated something in me that hadn't been acknowledged or considered before. It felt like another hole was filled. I went over and hugged her for about 2 minutes and cried. Relief though, not sadness this time. Something lifted.
God I wish I had the talent and patience to write like some of you. This was really amazing and I just can't tell it right.
Wow, one extreme to the other with two polar opposite friends.
Post by: RTP2003 on September 06, 2007, 10:23:08 PM
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God I wish I had the talent and patience to write like some of you. This was really amazing and I just can't tell it right.
I dunno, seems to me you did it well enough.
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 06, 2007, 10:40:13 PM
I'm rambling now. I've just had a really odd but good couple of weeks. Dealt with the Sarasota friends, my Dad came up and we celebrated our birthdays and now this. Strange days.
::bandit::
Post by: Anonymous on September 07, 2007, 09:55:34 AM
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:yeah well, there's just so much more and I don't have the patience at the moment to type it all out. It realy was pretty cool though. I told this girl once that she reminded me of my grandmother and that is a huge compliment. My grandma was a broad in the absolute best sense of the word. She was tough, strong, smart, resourceful, bullheaded, tender and always thought outside the box. She's the reason I ended up a tomboy. She taught me that there wasn't anything I couldn't do. this friend is like that. She never been married b/c she refuses to settle. She lives on her own terms and answers to no one. I love how she is with my girls. she has two condos as investment props (she can't live there b/c she has a dog and the assoc. won't allow them ) and rents one out to my oldest daughter. She's tough, but understanding. She doesn't allow her to slide with anything, but then again Nic doesn't try to slide b/c she doesn't want to disappoint Cookie (she's the opposite of what a stereotypical "Cookie" would be).
I'm rambling now. I've just had a really odd but good couple of weeks. Dealt with the Sarasota friends, my Dad came up and we celebrated our birthdays and now this. Strange days.
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I don't know you Anne, but it sounds as though you deserve the good that's happening to you. Read your post about you and your Dad being out on the boat and finding your unspoken yet familiar way of communicating and I'm happy for you.
Regardless of how we feel about our parents or what we've been through with them, you only get one set, and once they are gone, there is no way to go back and try to find peace, so good for you for finding it when and where you can. If if it was only for that day.
Post by: Anonymous on September 07, 2007, 11:56:47 AM
Even if what someone else wrote was true and you had " issues" with Anne Bonney, I still have a difficult time understanding WHY you would feel the need to post such nasty shit.
From what I can tell you are a very talented writer and also an adult man, am I right? Why would you waste you time and talent writing something that takes away from your obvious gift?
Anne is a fellow human being as well as being a fellow survivor. How you can disrespect her in this way is beyond my understanding, even if for whatever reason you do not like her.
You have written many things that I have enjoyed reading. Maybe I have been wrong in my understanding of who you are.
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 07, 2007, 12:04:19 PM
My life really is pretty good now. It's taken a long, very long time to get it this way, but I'm here now. That's all that counts.
8-)
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2007, 08:01:44 AM
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Maybe I have been wrong in my understanding of who you are.
Unless you understand him to be a pathetic, sexually frustrated asshole who takes out his obvious sexual "shortcomings" (allusion to his small penis intended) on would-be victims of his stench who were wise enough to avoid any contact with him, then yeah, you have been wrong.
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2007, 08:34:10 AM
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Quote from: ""Guest""Maybe I have been wrong in my understanding of who you are.
Unless you understand him to be a pathetic, sexually frustrated asshole who takes out his obvious sexual "shortcomings" (allusion to his small penis intended) on would-be victims of his stench who were wise enough to avoid any contact with him, then yeah, you have been wrong.
Then I guess I was wrong.
Why is ok to insult and degrade people on the internet when most ( notice I say most and not all) people would not say these things to the person's face? What I write, I would also say directly to your face, but I am not a nasty person to begin with so I guess this is where the difference lies.
Post by: Anne Bonney on September 08, 2007, 12:17:50 PM
Honeywell, SP Times and a few of the other major employers were really big targets for Straight. Like I said earlier, it was the beginning of the EAP programs and damn Straight sure did latch onto that. I'll have to ask my dad what happened at work when the Times started running negative articles about Straight. I wonder if they approached or spoke with him about it. Or if he approached them. He and I don't talk a whole lot about it, not yet. We're still a little cautious w/ each other, but the time will come.