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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: H.R 6358 and other questions
« on: March 28, 2009, 04:42:51 PM »
I'm still on the fence about this bill. On one hand it does give children some sort of procedure if they are being mis-treated. On the other hand making sure the kids have that opportunity is going to be impossible

The one thing that I did in my daily C.o.C. withdraws was to ask to see an attorney or social worker. Repeatedly, I was told that I had no rights and therefore I would never get to see one. It was like a daily ritual, I'd put in a withdraw, get confronted and then end up slammed to the ground, dragged to the side of group where I'd remain w/ 4-5 oldcomers sitting on me until it was time to go to the host home. 9.5 out of 10 of the days I was there, for all those months. (that's a lot of asking to see an outside advocate or legal representative, without ever getting to)  And then one day they (Straight) realized they wouldn't break me and my parents were asked to and  agreed to withdraw me.

Children NEED to KNOW they have rights. Programs must be forced to encourage kids to be informed of their rights and how to use them, if needed. A program who asks to be kept in check by it's clients and the government will be a lot better than any I know of atm.

Unless these kids get unrestricted access to a phone, and the parents aren't washed to believe their kid is a liar.... I don't see programs complying with the proposed regulations.


ps~ On an unrelated note! I did this cool experiment with red blood cells at work today, for biology. I wanted to understand and see first hand how Osmosis worked within the cell... It was amazing to see how the red blood cell responds to changes in it environment. Wow! in the simplest form... I could see how a change in ones environment caused chaos and destruction....almost instantly. OMG, I love school! (Never thought I'd ever say that, LOL )

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: H.R 6358 and other questions
« on: March 27, 2009, 07:39:43 PM »
Good point. My problem is becoming interestingly clear. It is easy for me to focus on Straight and all of it's forms.. pre-straight and post straight. Especially now, I am watching the episode about AARC. Wow, It is the straight model. I did read about the connection between Vause and miller and Union alternative college etc. So, Dang.. There it is in all it's horrifying glory.. Straight Inc. Turned AARC.

Guess I'll be thinking more on how to connect the dots between the SynaSeedStraKidPathAARC model and the "specialty schools like ? WWASPs and ??(see I just don't know enough about them) How are ~they like ~us? Sigh, it's been so long since I indulged myself in this stuff. The memories are haunting. *again*

 Geesh, Where have I been ~lost out here in the society that doesn't talk about institutionalized child abuse. ~America's dirty little secret~

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: H.R 6358 and other questions
« on: March 27, 2009, 06:29:43 PM »
Looks like I need to include:
1) brief history of the toughlove movement and the rise of toughlove programs. define coercive thought reform and behavior modification, and then connect those with the term Cult.
2) Describe the Straight model and it's evolution to other names (same program) and ~~DFAF to AARC? *Did the traditional Straight model end w/ KHK/Pathway? Or is it in full use currently? I'm a little confused if Pathway/KHK are still operating.
3) How do I connect the straight model with any current specialty schools and wilderness programs? And does anyone have an idea what kind of documentation I could use? (Having trouble here...)
4) Show how behavior modification can de-construct a kids self identity and self image. And how it can teach kids to abuse others in order to achieve group acceptance.  (Give examples of specific abuses/techniques are used throughout many differently named and advertised programs and the possible effects these techniques can have.)
5) Show the desire of the survivor communities and some psychological communities to have laws which regulate programs or laws which prohibit these types of programs from operating at all, by providing examples of suggested Bills, first hand accounts, and professional research papers.


Ok, I know the political aspect of all of this is very important, but I am not certain I want to include it. I feel the only way to give that part of topic total justice would be to start from the synanon and work all the way till now.. Which would encompass a ton of pages.. Geesh, There is so much information.. but is it all scattered about. Even on Wes's site.. I have a hard time muttling through it all.

ps: sorry, I know this isn't an english lesson. LOL. I really appreciate the help.
Oh! today I was chatting w/ my Biology professor.. and mentioned Straight Inc.. he stopped and said. "Oh, wow. You must suffer from PTSD. I have read about that place." I just stood and looked at him, totally  taken by surprise.. OMG a random educated adult who had at some point in his 65yr life taken the time to just know about Straight. Amazing.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: H.R 6358 and other questions
« on: March 26, 2009, 10:12:58 PM »
Great! Thanks!

Ok, am I understanding it right? Does this HR911 bill only include regulations for programs who claim to focus on children with emotional and behavior issues? What about the programs disguised as "schools"? Is there still no way to regulate them as residential behavior modification programs? Sorry, I've been out of this loop for a few years. And what does it mean to include only programs that contribute to interstate commerce?

On another note, I am glad to see it enforces a policy for a hot line for complaints. And that an separate party is to review the complaints.

Another thing, I am having a hard time finding the book.. An American Gulag. Never read it.. Any ideas if the book would be helpful as a fairly objective or informative resource? I have Maia's book, had to get it at the library.. B0rder$ didn't carry it here.

Anyone know of any other paper published resource? It's actually a difficult subject to find at the local library, LOL.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: H.R 6358 and other questions
« on: March 26, 2009, 04:38:05 PM »
Hey you! Good thinking =) Thanks!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / H.R 6358 and other questions
« on: March 26, 2009, 02:15:00 PM »
Hey you all! I must write an English paper with debatable discussion....7 pages. I have decided to write on Coercive thought reform used in Teen behavior modification programs and how it can lead to extreme consequences. My teacher has the typical view..."But some kids need it." I about hit the floor! And exclaimed, "Do kids really deserve the possibility of a Life sentence for minor offenses??!" She just looked at me really confused.. I'm pretty opinionated about this topic, as many of you know, But I need some help. I read about HR6358 and am still confused about how this bill will help kids in programs disguised as "specialty schools". Also, any fairly objective resources would be appreciated. I have to have 10 resources by Monday, and figured this would be a good place to ask. (Yes, I have found some on my own! But maybe I am overlooking something, or some point that I need to include for us as survivors. My paper will be written from an argumentative essay format. I will argue for the right's of kids and expose the facts about coercive thought reform.

I finally made it to college! My employer gave me a full scholarship to receive my Nursing degree. At my age, it seems like a long road.. But people just don't realize how much a traumatic experience like Straight will affect someones life. It took a long 18 or so years just to get where I should of been at 18. The struggle to conform to social norms is a bit tough for me, but the means will justify the end. (In this case) Conformity has never been natural for me.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Hi
« on: August 25, 2008, 05:29:58 PM »
Um.. That would be a ~Nope, not me. You could possibly be confused about the female anatomy and how it works. And which parts are completely necessary...


ps, It didn't work anyhow.. take 2 in December :)

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Hi
« on: August 13, 2008, 04:44:25 PM »
Thank You =)

And Antigen.. I figured out what I did wrong. I got it back!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / C.O.C to withdraw myself
« on: September 18, 2007, 10:38:27 AM »
I'm so glad I never left Day Zero  :wink:

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Let It Bleed / What do fornits look like?
« on: September 18, 2007, 10:33:09 AM »
8-)

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I need more information
« on: September 03, 2007, 05:46:27 PM »
Total resistance. I've been kicked out repeatedly for bringing it up. They still believe I failed at graduating, because of my profuse refusal to participate in the abuse of other humans.  Straight finally asked my parents to remove me, since I never left 1st phase or rightfully "earned talk" in the 6.5 months I was there. I failed at Straight, kinda an interesting concept I must live with from my family.

GAWD, I can not wait to get away from this small left over straight cult family that is my parents and the "compliant child" and her children. Scary part is, they are raising my niece and nephew to be straightlings! FREAKS><

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Straight Inc, Springfield, VA 85-86...Anyone????
« on: September 01, 2007, 07:43:36 PM »
I was there too.
Good to see you all
 8-)

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Laws Broken
« on: September 01, 2007, 07:35:35 PM »
Shiki??? The Shiki?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Beth Update
« on: August 11, 2007, 04:19:38 PM »
I see not much has changed in the world of Fornits   :wink:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 29 Years Ago This Date; 01/21/78
« on: January 27, 2007, 02:03:49 PM »
I never thought about it that way Woof... It is odd about the being grown up and not expecting it. I have been convinced since Straight, I would not live long enough to bother making any really long term plans. Interesting, I always think.. WoW, I wasn't spose to live this long, of course I don't have long term plans... But I hadn't connected that thought to Straight until you posted that statement. WoW.. I understand it now. I better start thinking of my old age, cause apparently staright was wrong and I am going to live awhile :o  What a reality check. Thanks.

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