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Hyde Schools / Q?: Gary Kent
« on: February 08, 2007, 09:26:01 PM »
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Hey Lars, welcome back.  You had great stuff to add to this board a while back.  I am happy you are posting again. We missed you[/quote


Yeah, it's been a while.  I've been insanely busy with work and I got most of what I wanted to say off my chest last year.  Seems like the board is picking up a bit as of late.  I'm glad that others are finding it cathartic.

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Hyde Schools / Q?: Gary Kent
« on: February 08, 2007, 07:48:10 PM »
Gary was much respected as a wrestling and football coach.  I don't miss Hyde much, but I did enjoy playing football for Gary.

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When did Bud leave?  He was an interesting & entertaining teacher.  His wife JoAnn was a real sweetheart.  Did he take off for bigger & better things?

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Most of it.

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I'm not asking you to out yourself, but were you there for the summer program in '86?

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Hyde Schools / Current Students Revolt!
« on: April 19, 2006, 07:14:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-19 16:13:00, Lars wrote:

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On 2006-04-19 08:06:00, Anonymous wrote:


"LUCRATIVE LAW PRACTICE?!?!?!?  What are you talking about...Lars is a struggling public defender on an Indian reservation!!





Doesn't being a Senior at Hyde mean anything to you?!  These are the leaders of the school setting an example for the underclassmen...and this schmuck is posting on an anti-Hyde web site?!?!  If you don't like it there...don't compromise the program, get out and get a job at McDonald's...if the McD's comment bothers you, how about Wendy's.





I'd love to know who you are Sue...when were you at Hyde, maybe we were there together!"




Actually, I never practiced on the rez, as they call it, but I was a public defender for five years before going into private practice.  Get your facts straight) You may look down your nose at it (if you're who I think you are, you went into medicine as I recall), but it's a noble job, one I think the folks at Hyde would approve of.  Of course, when I had kids, I left for private practice and a much better income, but I'm proud of the time I spent as a PD.  So, again, go fuck yourself.



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Hyde Schools / Current Students Revolt!
« on: April 19, 2006, 07:13:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-19 08:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

"LUCRATIVE LAW PRACTICE?!?!?!?  What are you talking about...Lars is a struggling public defender on an Indian reservation!!



Doesn't being a Senior at Hyde mean anything to you?!  These are the leaders of the school setting an example for the underclassmen...and this schmuck is posting on an anti-Hyde web site?!?!  If you don't like it there...don't compromise the program, get out and get a job at McDonald's...if the McD's comment bothers you, how about Wendy's.



I'd love to know who you are Sue...when were you at Hyde, maybe we were there together!"


Actually, I never practiced on the rez, as they call it, but I was a public defender for five years before going into private practice.  Get your facts straight. You may look down your nose at it (if you're who I think you are, you went into medicine as I recall), but it's a noble job, one I think even the folks at Hyde would approve of.  Of course, when I had kids, I left for private practice and a much better income, but I'm proud of the time I spent as a PD.  So, again... ::both::

 [ This Message was edited by: Lars on 2006-04-19 16:22 ]

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Hyde Schools / anonymity on this board
« on: April 16, 2006, 09:22:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-16 14:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

"wow. this thread is reminding me of all of those endless, pointless, Hyde seminars where people just kept going after each other and their attitudes. how many times did I just check out because I couldn't take it anymore? Has anyone else noticed in recent posts how much Hyde lingo creeps in?



"Step up to the plate and tell the truth" is an example from a recent post on this thread.



What is truth, anyway? Such a subjective concept.



It might be fun to try to compile a list of Hyde-isms.

Anyone else want to contribute?



"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree," comes to mind.

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As you can see from the previous exchange, attacking one's courage and integrity is par for the course.  If you don't praise the school and its methods, you weren't honest.  According to the dipshit who had the temerity (and the dishonesty) to attack my integrity, I didn't earn my diploma and faked it all because I didn't denounce the school during my senior evaluations.  Actually, at the time, I really tried to buy into what was going on.  You can't fake what I accomplished there.  The passage of years made me understand how much I truly hated it.  But you can't reason with these people, and frankly, it's not worth the effort.  If you don't toe their line you're a liar and a coward.  Fuck 'em, I'm living my life my way...and speaking my mind.  
 ::kma::

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Hyde Schools / anonymity on this board
« on: April 16, 2006, 05:21:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-16 12:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

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Confesed liar, huh?  Oh, I said that I lied?  In fact, I challenged you to find one thing that I've posted that isn't true.  So far, you haven't bothered to try.





Gotta love how the first reaction, when confronted with criticism of the school, from people who support Hyde is to attack that person's integrity.   I told you before, kid, I don't lie.  Calling me dishonest isn't helping you and only proves my point."




Now your earlier quote, where you said (in connection with your time at Hyde):
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Withholding one's opinions about the school in that setting isn't duplicitous, it's survival.



Ignoring the continued verbal assualts like the diminutive use of the work "kid"....first let me commend you once again on the lawyerly change of topic.  



You might have addressed the fact that you, a trained lawyer, didn't have the presence of mind to ask Hyde in what capacity they were calling and request it to be private.



Nope, change the topic time (again).  Ok, fine, I'll go there.



Here's the deal Lars.  You may have graduated, but whether you earned it is another thing all together.  If you lied by omission day in and day out (hard to imagine at your depth of "hate" as you say that it wasn't comission as well, but that's really a lawyerly distinction right) how does that make you anything other than a confessed liar?



That said, we do seem to be getting closer to the issue, so I am heartened.  You see, Lars my friend, you were never at Hyde, because the real Hyde experience only begins when you begin telling the the truth.  If you faked your way through it, then of course you never got it.



You can call it survival, but I saw little girls there with a lot more courage than you will ever have step up to the plate and make the decision that no matter what else, they were going to trust the process and tell the truth.  And keep telling the truth, even if it meant they went on 2/4, had to leave the school, go out on their own, join the military, do whatever it took.



These were little girls, Lars.  And plenty of boys too.



Now, from a psychological perspective, it bears noting that when a family system is threatened, children especially will perceive that threat as a threat to their survival itself.



I say this noting that you don't appear angy at your parents talking with Hyde, just that Hyde talked with your parents (again, leaving us without any facts of how that conversation actually occurred....including the possibility that your parents initiated the discussion about your posts).  But I digress from your primary tangent.



The fact of the matter is, your actual survival did not depend on telling lies, only your perceived survival.  You may not want to hear this, but for those people reporting good experiences at Hyde, many (if not most) will say that a critical part of their process was getting honest.  That's where the growth started, that's where changes in the family system started, and for some, that's where their life started.



Lars, there were no locks on the doors and you could have left at any time.  You chose to lie to maintain your (dis)comfort level and you look like you are living in that place still today, otherwise, this board would be irrelevant to you.



Safe to say that no one will ever mistake you for Horatio Alger, nor Holden Caulfield for that matter.  Just a scared little boy who chose to lie, again and again and again.



Lars, your post challenged me to find something you've posted that wasn't true.  IMHO, your accusation that Hyde doesn't respect privacy was misleading to the point of deception.  Denying that your parents relationship with Hyde preceded yours, more of the same.  But you actually told the truth about the basis on which I made my statement that you are a confessed liar....that is, however you want to frame it, you admitted faking your way through Hyde.



What you did at Hyde wasn't just a lie then, Lars, it was a damn shame.



Anyway, I will probably not respond to any of your posts for a while if ever.  I think I get you enough for this not to be a good use of my time.



You are a coward.



Happy Easter,



Sybergal "86"


Wrong again.  I never lied.  If, by not telling the school what I thought about it is lying, well, you have a strange definition of lying.  I preferred to finish school the right way and head out to college instead of living on the streets.   That's not lying, that just being smart.  And I busted my ass there, in sports, in seminars, in performing arts, you name it, I gave it my all.  Just because I thought a lot of the process was toxic and harmful doesn't mean I didn't experience it or faked my way through it.  That's the part you Hyde-loving morons don't understand.  Experiencing Hyde and living the five words doesn't mean always praising the process.

As for courage and character, I've got more of it in my little finger than you'll ever have in your whole miserable being. So don't respond to my posts.  You won't be missed here, you bitter, miserable sack of shit.  Fuck off and die.  You embody the worst of that place.

Sincerely,

A smart, honest brave person who's living what the five words really mean.  And kiss my "trained lawyer ass." ::both::

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Hyde Schools / anonymity on this board
« on: April 16, 2006, 11:31:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-15 23:54:00, Anonymous wrote:

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The only thing I know for sure is that Lars, a confessed liar and trained lawyer could have simply said, "hi friend, nice to hear from you, but before we talk further I need to know if this is on the record or off, because even if you are a friend you are also a Hyde official."



Next!



Sybergal "86"


Confesed liar, huh?  Oh, I said that I lied?  In fact, I challenged you to find one thing that I've posted that isn't true.  So far, you haven't bothered to try.

Gotta love how the first reaction, when confronted with criticism of the school, from people who support Hyde is to attack that person's integrity.   I told you before, kid, I don't lie.  Calling me dishonest isn't helping you and only proves my point.

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Hyde Schools / anonymity on this board
« on: April 15, 2006, 07:35:00 PM »
Anyway, in his latest post, Lars suggests he initiated the relationship with Hyde and brought his parents there.  (How else could Hyde not have a pre-existing relationship with Lars parents?)  Either they brought him or he brought them, and my money is on the former.  Of course, I don't know for sure, but FWIW I am willing to make a sizable wager on this one.



Lars says Hyde's "relationship with my parents...is entirely independent of any relationship they have with me."  Independent, yes, unrelated, um, no, Lars. No, no, no.  The whole relationship was inspired by and is completely about you. You conclusion then that "That means they have no business discussing my feelings about the place with them" thus seems to bizarre to me as to defy description.



Sybergal "86"
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Wrong again.  I did not suggest in any way that I inititiated the relationship with Hyde.  Read it carefully.  And just because my parents brought me to Hyde does not mean that twenty years later they have any business discussing my current feelings with them.  If you can't understand that, well, you're simply not capable of understanding that once a family leaves that place, their private lives are off limits to the school.  I choose to discuss the matter with my former schoolmate out of respect.  I did not expect that they would actually discuss it my parents or anyone else for that matter.  I had the right to expect that.  Just because they had their nose in our family's business twenty years ago does not mean thay can stick their nose in it again.  So fuck you and the self righteous horse you rode in on.  Frankly, I'm ashamed to have graduated from a school that produces people like you.

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Hyde Schools / anonymity on this board
« on: April 15, 2006, 02:38:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-15 00:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-04-14 09:08:00, Eudora wrote:


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Ok, grease to the geese is gravy to the gander, right? So then should Lars call up your mommy and daddy and try and find out why you're being so mean to him in this public forum? What kind of a nut case does shit like that?"




Jeez Eudora, I had kinda hoped you were a little smarter than that, but at this point can only conclude your lack of logic skills makes you the odds on favorite to win the election for village idiot.  I will try and help you...



Hyde's relationship with Lars' parents preceded Hyde's relationship with Lars.



Hyde's relationship with Lars' parents is independent of Lars, even if it relates to their mutual concern for him.



Lars has no relationship with my parents whatsoever, let alone was their relationship the way I met Lars, ergo your analogy that somehow I should be ok with Lars calling my family is WHACK.



Let me try a different analogy.  Three people are friends for a long time.  One day, Friend 1 finds out that Friend 2 is publicly bashing Friend 1.  Friend 1 calls Friend 2 to talk about it (to no avail), and the next time Friend 1 and Friend 3 (the person who introduced Friend 1 and Friend 2) talk, it comes up in conversation.



Its really not much more complicated than that....except that Friend 1 and Friend 3 have a business relationship and talk with predictable regularity, making their communication all the more expected, natural and reasonable.



Isn't that more the case here?  Anyway, at the end of the day Lars has continued to fail to identify any (moral or otherwise) basis for claiming Hyde does not respect privacy based on the example he cited.



This is the subject which Lars seems to have trouble staying on track on....possibly ADD or something like that....because he just keeps changing the topic.  And you, Eudora, without any association or connection with Hyde, you just aid and abet.  Wouldn't want one of your faithful followers shown to have made an unsubstantiated allegation, right?  (Jeez, dare I say it....but it seems maybe you have created your own cult?)



To me, Lars seems so invested in defending his position on Hyde that even when wrong, he holds on as if his life depended on it.  I'm not sure about you, but that tells me a lot about Lars (and his posts).



Sybergal

(Yes, names are good -- I will try and adhere as well....most well run websites I know won't allow anonymous posts and limit users to a single name....otherwise, as stated, its nearly impossible to have a meaningful dialogue, the site devolves to trash-talking garbage posts, and its not a big leap to guess that 99% of the posts are the same three people.)"


You remind of me what I hated most about Hyde - the know it all who can't make a logical argument, but simply resorts to half-assed putdowns.  I answered your question about the respect for privacy.  The fact that Hyde may have relationship with my parents does not justify conveying any information about my conversation with a former classmate/faculty member.  Their relationship with my parents did not precede their relationship with me and at this point, is entirely independent of any relationship they have with me.  That means they have no business discussing my feelings about the place with them.  You've failed to to come up with a single reason why my interaction with anyone from the school is fair game for them to bring up with my folks.

Good thing you're not a lawyer.  Our profession  requires reasoning skills AND a respect for privacy.  You have neither.

[ This Message was edited by: Lars on 2006-04-15 11:39 ][ This Message was edited by: Lars on 2006-04-15 11:40 ]

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Hyde Schools / anonymity on this board
« on: April 13, 2006, 06:16:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-13 15:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Here's my take on the referenced post.  Lars had a shitty experience in there but has made a pretty good life for himself despite what he went through.



Cheers Lars!  ::cheers::  ::cheers::

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Hyde Schools / anonymity on this board
« on: April 13, 2006, 06:02:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-13 13:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#144285



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And your point is?

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Hyde Schools / Hyde School Woodstock Headmaster Leaving???
« on: April 13, 2006, 03:41:00 PM »
Nepotism aside, I always liked Laura.  They could have done worse.[ This Message was edited by: Lars on 2006-04-13 12:41 ]

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