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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / My intentions
« on: July 27, 2004, 07:10:00 AM »
Greg! Great to hear from you.  Thanks for your words of encouragment.  For the most part I think this board is heading in the right direction.  I'd love to see more students post but alas I believe that they are scared away by the likes of Ottawa.  After all, we've already been through the program, who really wants it shoved down our throats again by a program "plant".  I can only hope that she will get bored and move on over to the strugglingteens website where she would find a most welcome home.  It just angers me.  They have their board (strugglingteens) where we are not allowed to express opinions and yet they can wander over here and shit all over us and we have to just sit back and take it.  I for one don't want to see this board turned into a censored pile of crap so I guess we have to just take Ottawa for now until she decides to move on.  You know, show that we are "bigger" than they are.

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / My intentions
« on: July 27, 2004, 06:58:00 AM »
Dearest Ottawa,
Good try, but I'm afraid your post will not silence me.  My my how you sound like a family head trying to feed me a line of crap about how I'm feeling.  Sorry to burst your little bubble dear O but I'm afraid there is nothing hysterical about me.  I'm merely expressing an opinion that is different than yours.  Does that qualify me for your hysteria diagnosis? Hmm. Exactly when did you graduate with your psych degree?  Where did you study?  What advanced degrees do you hold?  If you are going to try and diagnose my behavior kindly provide me with credentials.  Currently I am working with a psychiatrist who has thirty years of practice experience, a graduate of NYU with further study at the likes of Yale.  But truly, dearest O, if you feel you are more qualified to treat me, perhaps I should come for an initial evaluation.  Where exactly is your office located?  You hold a medical license in what state?  

I note that you completely failed to acknowledge anything I had to say in my previous post.  How typical of a program parent.  Attack my "hysteria" without acknowledging a thing I had to say.  Perhaps that is because you have no response?  After all, you can not argue with the fact that you have NEVER BEEN THERE.  

But alas, I think I am wrong.  I think you have been there.  I believe now, with stronger conviction than last night, that you are indeed a Cedu plant.  After all, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...You use classic Cedu techniques.  Attack Attack Attack.  As I stated before, I will not be silenced out of fear or intimidation.  And yes, dear O, intimidation is just your ploy.  But you see, I am much stronger than you realize.  

And coming back to a question that has been asked over and over and not yet responded to truthfully.  Why the fuck are you here?  This is a board for those directly connected with Cedu.  As I see it, that would not be a you as a parent (if we are to believe that little lie). If you do in fact work at Cedu it's time to come out of the closet.  At least then you will have a legitimate purpose in posting.

I've offered it once, and I'll offer it again.  See that little x in the top right hand corner of your monitor?  That's the door out.  Kindly use it.  :wave:

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Synanon and Cedu
« on: July 26, 2004, 08:35:00 PM »
What follows is a series of posts from a Cedu group on Yahoo.

Initial Post...
"Have any of you done research into the connection
between CEDU and Synanon? Interested at all?"

"Yea, that's where Mel got the basic idea for Cedu.  When I was there most of the 'family heads' where
escapee's from there. Synanon's concept was cult like
in that you never left, you were all one big family
and your children were to be raised by all. They fell
apart in the late 70's I think when someone put a live
rattlesnake in the leaders mailbox. It got big news
coverage. I don't even know if they still exist.
Anyway, the guys who defected to Cedu were uneducated
punks who were let loose on us teenagers. They had no
training, no degrees, just Mel guiding them. Who, by
the way, was a furniture salesman before he became the
Cedu god. Talk about a control freaks dream!!!
What a sweet deal these losers had rent, a
nice salary and all they had to do was pick on kids
all day. No wonder they all seemed so happy,
especially when the got all those hugs and kisses from
the nubile young girls sitting on thier laps.......
I don't think any of those men could have made it in
the real world or held down a real job.
I remember the first night I was there, some big fat
old (at least to me, he seemed old at the time...) guy
named Neil Weston came up to me and started hugging
and kissing me and I freaked out! I didn't know what
the hell he was doing.
Other than John Padgett, I never heard anything about
what became of Morty Mullins or Dave Powers. I know
Michael Allgood started his own school, maybe they
went with him.
I may be wrong here too, but I bet these guys had to
leave once a legitimate business took Cedu over. I
can't imagine how they could justify to the paying
parents that their kids were being counseled by these

Next Post...
"I had a long chat with one of our members last night and we talked
about the Synanon connection to Cedu as you all know that's where Mel
Wasserman got his idea to start Cedu. These are some scary
people....we should count our lucky stars that we didn't end up
there. There's a web site that gives you the basics about Synanon
and has a alumni list that includes John stallone and Morty Molin
(who is now deceased) who were two of the 'family heads' when I was
at Cedu. The address is and you'll have to answer a
question to get into the visitors section. The answer to the
question is "Walk Around Money" or WAM. I thought it was very
interesting. I'm also waiting on a response from a synanon group in
yahoo groups to see if I can join and ask them some questions. I
would really like to know how Mel Wasserman, a furniture salesman in
Palm Springs got involved with Synanon and how he ended up with these
dope fiends as counselors/therapists.....

Next Post...
"ere's what my friend Margaret, who was one of the first to join Cedu
had to say......

To my knowledge Mel did not have any real connections to Synanon. He
there a couple of times and maybe donated some money. But the only
connection I know of is that after he visited there he decided he
could do
the same thing but with teenagers. So he used their basic game plan
opened the doors to his Palm Springs house to invite us( drug using
up kids)into his home just to talk. That is how it got started. We
coming over just to talk about what we were doing and why. Then Mel
some basic rules no drugs, no alcohol, cannot be stonned or drunk, no
physical violence, a person could talk about or say annything they
. It just kind of snow balled from there. Kids started moving in
me and we worked and pooled our money, I believe he was sincere about
helping us at first. I know I had no direction in my life at that
time. But
like I said something happened, I think power and money became the
name of
the game. If that was his intentions all along I do not know. I sure
hope I
wasn't so stupid to buy into his game. But who knows. you can put
this on
you site if you want and use my name if you want."

Next Post...
I'm copying a message posted on the Yahoo Synanon group page
regarding the Synanon/Cedu connection. Interesting, but I wonder how
true it is?

Hi **** --

In Synanon we were told it was a drug rehab program called The
Charles E Dederich University. We thought it a nice compliment.

Have a cool week,

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / My intentions
« on: July 26, 2004, 08:09:00 PM »
Hi all!

It's been awhile since I've posted.  Let me introduce myself to those of you who may not know who I am.  While I go by the nick Cypress on this board my mother bestowed upon me the name Sara at my birth.  I attended a Cedu offspring program many moons ago.  Just two short years ago (Ginger, check me if I'm wrong with the dates) I attended the "annual" conference in St. Pete's, FL.  It was at that conference that I introduced Cedu to the likes of "GregFL" and "KPickle".  I found out about this conference from the Straight Board.  You see, back then, Cedu didn't yet have a home on the Fornits site.  Cedu wasnt even heard of until I meekly began to post.  This group of people opened there arms wide and took me in.  Not only did they listen to what I had to say but they made me feel welcome.  It was after the conference in St. Pete's that the Cedu board was started on the  Fornits site.  I started as its moderator from the very beginning.  Way back then, when I was the ONLY person onboard.  And I waited.  I knew eventually people would show up and begin sharing their stories.  And gradually that is just what happened.  We may not be as large or have as many participants as the Straight board but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit back and let my haven turn into nothing more than a useless Rap.  

When this forum started, it was with the hopes of creating a welcoming environment for former students to feel safe in sharing their stories, good or bad.  I desperately wanted to hook up not only with past friends but with other students  who shared in the Cedu experience.  

Quite honestly Ottowa, I could do without the likes of you.  You have NOT been there like we have.  You will NEVER know what we have been through.  You have NEVER had your dignity ripped from you in the way we have.  I will NOT sit here and listen to how well your son did or did not do at Cedu.  How the Hell do you know?  YOU WERE NOT THERE.  If your son wishes to join our dialogue, I strongly encourage his participation.  But in my eyes you are NOTHING more than a parent who gave up on her child.  YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.  I may not be the current moderator of this board but I feel I have the right, as its founder, to tell you to go to hell.  You have voiced your opinion, we have heard.  We spent too many years of our existence being force fed what is "acceptable".  It is finally our turn to tell you to fuck off!  We don't have to take it anymore.  You can not put us on bans.  You can not assign dishes. We don't have to be polite to you out of fear.  If you come to OUR board then you come under OUR rules.  If you don't like it, then leave.  Let me show you the door. :wave:

Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore / Whitmore Academy in Utah?
« on: June 28, 2004, 08:19:00 PM » ... ID=1511629

Check out the parent's forum.  This whole link is about parents wondering why they are not receiving responses to e-mails they are sending to their kids.  One parent goes on to ask if the school is censoring the emails.  Now, wouldn't a responsible parent question any rules regarding communication with their kids prior to sending their kid to that school?

Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore / Whitmore Academy in Utah?
« on: June 28, 2004, 07:59:00 PM » ... index.html

and why can I access Hannah's report card?

Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore / Whitmore Academy in Utah?
« on: June 28, 2004, 07:49:00 PM » ... index.html

What the hell is a "subliminal"???


First, have you checked out the yahoo group called TheRapSheet?  I highly recommend you take a visit.

Second, you have a great idea. This could be our own form of "reunion".

How do we get it going?


Ascent is a Cedu program.  I suggest you check out the Cedu forum before you make a decision.

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Yahoo Group about Cedu
« on: November 11, 2003, 11:01:00 PM »
Here's a yahoo group that might interest you. It's devoted to Cedu.

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / The Forgotten
« on: November 05, 2003, 09:27:00 PM »
Yea, I know. It's been ages since I've posted. But for some reason tonight I need to vent. Quite frankly I'm sick of hearing about WWASPS. Is it that they are the worst out there or is it that they are so huge that they have so many disgruntled "grads"? What the fuck about the rest of the kids locked up in these fucking "boarding schools"? Are these schools any more acceptable because they cost more than wwasps? Do they hide their abuse better behind fancy campuses in idealic settings. Sure, the kids arent starving. They arent covered in bug bites and god knows what else as witnessed by wwasps students. No, the kids in these overlooked facilities have every physical need met. But what about the psychological anguish they must endure on a daily basis? The constant yelling, the physical punishment, the forced labor, living in fear, forgetting what it is to trust. I've been out for over ten years and still struggle. I have nights like this when the anger becomes overwhelming. Tonight my anger is for "the forgotten".

Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / SYNANON
« on: November 09, 2002, 10:58:00 PM »

-also, can anyone crack this code?

[ This Message was edited by: AlexL on 2002-11-08 19:47 ]

-WAM (Walk Around Money)

Elan School / now is the time
« on: July 03, 2002, 09:25:00 AM »

A hypothetical:

Joe Ricci is dead

Elan is closed

Former staff are aquitted of wrong doing (maybe because they were all in the same boat as you once)

A few newspapers print a story of ELans closure.

You claim responibility

The whole world knows your problems.

Your problems are still there after all your wishes come true.

Nobody gives a shit about your problems.

You realize your shrink is fucking you for an hourly rate.

You finally kill yourself.

and they all lived happily ever after.

Closing Elan is a placebo Jackie, not a cure for your with your problems or dwell on them...its up to you.
One point you fail to make with your hypothetical situation. That is, if Elan is closed no other child will have to live through it and find a cure for what ails them. Closing Elan is more than a "placebo" to heal the wounds of those from it's past. It's a way to prevent future abuse.

ps. Take your own advice. Deal with your own problems and move on. We are here to do something. You're here to moan.

[ This Message was edited by: Cypress on 2002-07-03 06:27 ]

Hyde Schools / Hyde / The family Foundation School
« on: June 20, 2002, 11:29:00 AM »

Hyde could not get away with this type of behavior towards kids in 2002 when they are called a "Boarding school".  

Just wondering how you can make such a statement? Do a bit of research and you will find that many of these "boarding schools" do in fact use rather harsh treatment to this day. Please, don't be fooled by slick advertising.

It's great to see you on this board!

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