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Sea ORG Refuge / Re: Inside Scientology’s strict Sea Org
« on: August 12, 2012, 09:36:09 PM »
I know I should know better than to give a response to this person but enash, whoever you are, if you hate scientology why do you support it so lavishly with your tax dollars?  Don't like Islam either?; well tough because your money supports it.  All churches need to do is become legitimate non-profits and they can have all the "freedoms" granted therein as well as the obligation to open their books.  If they don't want to do that, if they want the "freedom" to preach politics from the pulpit, fine.  Just pay their taxes and they can do what they want.  People died for that freedom; the least the church can do is pay their taxes for it.  As of now they have the "freedom" to collect untold amounts of cash, live lavish lifestyles and not pay a dime of tax on it.  Nor do they have to disclose how much or where it comes from; a "freedom" no one else in this country has.  For each dollar they collect they have a dollars worth of buying power, far more than you will ever have.  And hey, if you like North Korea so much I have a ticket in your name.  I'm sure most people on this forum would welcome the opportunity for you to sample North Korea's "freedoms", which, hopefully, do not come with internet access.

Now let the abuse begin.

Sea ORG Refuge / Re: Inside Scientology’s strict Sea Org
« on: July 09, 2012, 12:01:08 AM »
It sucks but they couldn't do it without their tax exempt status and all those tax deductible donations.  Its waaaaaaaaaay past time to rescind the special privelges held by religious organizations:  they don't have to pay taxes, either income or property, clergy get special deductions and donations are tax deductible for the donor.  Time for ALL religious organizations to either become legitimate non-profits and open their books or pay their damn taxes.  Like it or not you are supporting this and every other goofball cult.  Don't like fundamental Mormons or Islam?  Too bad.  Your (and my tax dollar) is supporting them.  I laughed when people protested the "mosque at ground zero" but no one suggested cutting religious organizations off from the tax-free tit they've been sucking on.  No matter how much or little tax you pay, the godsters have a whole tax free dollar to invest for every one of your one dollar minus tax.  Their money can grow faster, go farther with no transparancy allowing them to perpetuate their "cause".  Money is power and the religious hierarchy does not care about you or god (witness abuses and cover ups by clery); they only care about being able to keep sucking on that tit and they will until we stop it.

Its a lot more complicated than just "pulling down your pants" and viola you know what gender you are.  I know of many people who were born with the genitalia of both sexes; eventually one atrophies and one takes over.  I worked at a hospital where this happened several times; as the child matured many timed the name and sex had to be changed on their medical charts.

Sometimes this phenomenon is not as apparent; it is more a part of the sense of who you feel you really are. I think it would be hard to "induce" transgendering" if a person has no doubts; I would like to know what that nurse was basing her remarks on.

August 24, 2010 04:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time  
KBR Awarded Contracts by The Republic of Iraq Ministry of Oil
for Grassroots FCC and ROSE© Units at Maissan Refinery
HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--KBR (NYSE:KBR) today announced that it has been awarded two contracts by the Republic of Iraq Ministry of Oil through the South Refineries Company. KBR will provide licensing and basic engineering services for the construction of Fluid Catalytic Cracking (FCC) and Solvent Deasphalting (SDA) units at the planned grassroots Maissan Refinery in Maissan, Iraq. Work on the projects is expected to commence immediately.

“We look forward to forging a solid and sustainable relationship with the Ministry and South Refineries Company.”

KBR will license its FCC Technology for an anticipated 47,500 barrels per day (BPD) FCC unit and its Residuum Oil Supercritical Extraction (ROSE®) technology for a 45,000 BPD SDA unit. The FCC unit will be delivered under a joint marketing alliance between KBR and ExxonMobil Research and Engineering Company (EMRE).

“These awards mark the first wins for KBR’s Technology Business in Iraq and provide KBR the opportunity to introduce two of its leading refining technologies into an important, emerging market,” said Tim Challand, President, KBR Technology. “We look forward to forging a solid and sustainable relationship with the Ministry and South Refineries Company.”

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Operation Reentry
« on: July 17, 2011, 02:17:55 PM »
One more thing:  if the lady does not want to face what she went through because it would hurt her parents then I hope she will write and tell us exactly how that program helped her.  What specific "treatment" helped.

The Seed Discussion Forum / Re: Operation Reentry
« on: July 17, 2011, 02:15:50 PM »
I read the book  as well.  It is facinating but the most interesting part is how she can glide right past the most important traumatic event in her life and not see any connection between that and the escalation of her mental disorder which she claims began when she was 8.  If that claim is true then she should have been treated by a mental health professional whether subsequent psychoses were precipitated by drugs or not.

Another interesting fact:  her brother experimented with drugs, was smart enough not to tell his parents, did not get sent to a program and did not develop a mental disorder.  

Of course there is no way to know if the program caused her illness; the focus today is on neurochemistry and genetics more than environment but anyone who dismisses this lady's experiences in OR, at a vulnerable time in her life when hormones were already affecting her neuro brain chemistry ,is a moron.  I greatly admire what she has been able to accomplish but if she would only take a really hard look at the abuse she endured at OR she may be inspired to put her considerable legal and medical talents to use to help other victims.  So far she does not seem inclined to admit that the program had any affect on her.

The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What is a parent to do?
« on: July 01, 2011, 12:17:35 PM »
Dear Torn,  I am so glad you decided not to send your daughter away.  Not only would it be damaging but you would miss the most important years of her growth and you can never get that back.

She is showing how motivated she can be when she has internalized certain knowledge like seeing for herself there are certain steps needed to be taken in order to get what she wants: school/job.  That is something she had to learn from experience, not from being told.  It is good that you are in therapy but be really careful because there are a lot of incompetent or just ineffective ones out there.  As a mother of three grown kids looking back I can say without a doubt that each time I took an "expert's" advice against my own instinct it was disasterous.  Conversely each time I ignored the experts and external pressure and followed my instincts it turned out to be the exact right thing.  You, not the experts, have to live with your decisions so let them be yours.

It may be time to ease up on the "help"...psychiatrically speaking...for your daughter because the more you try to help her that way the more she interalizes the feeling that something is wrong with her that needs fixing.  Something both her parents find so wrong that not even they can fix like they used to when she was little.  This  can be depressing because she can't fix it nor can the experts.   The more experts that are involved with their varing and sometimes conflicting advice, the less faith and more resentment she will have  as well as the feeling that she must be really bad if even the experts can't fix it.. Also do not tell yourself or anyone else, especially your daughter that think you have failed as a parent.  We all feel inadequate and know we can do better but when we guilt ourselves then it is our children who feel like a defective product of our faulty parenting.  I used to do that; now if it comes up I always tell my kids I must have been a great parent because they turned out so wonderful.  I find whatever positive trait I can and focus on that. Of course it has to be sincere and honest to work.  Ask her to teach  or show you something; bring out the mentor in her so you have something honest to praise. I also found what worked for me is to lighten up and find the humor in things.  We get so intense we forget to have fun and laugh with our kids.  Many annoyances and challenges can be minimized with laughter.  I find that laughing at myself and my own foibles eases the tension.  It is very hard not to relax and enjoy being with someone who makes you laugh; it really is the best medicine, espcially when it seems like there is nothing to laugh about!  

Good luck.  Trust your instincts above all. When at a crossroads follow the path of unconditional love, it, not societal expectations, will take you where you really want to go. You sound like a good person   I hope things go well for your family.

Isn't it interesting how many "anti-government" people have no problem taking food stamps from it not to mention other forms of government aid.

Well, now we all know how far Whooter will go: he'll go at least as far as derailing a thread about invalidating abuse victims.  ..suprised his little  :shamrock: hasn't jumped in to his defense yet.

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Run for your Life...
« on: February 12, 2007, 11:07:43 PM »
page not available.  'Sup with that?

Facility Question and Answers / Father and son WC
« on: February 09, 2007, 12:59:01 AM »
First of all even though the house is taking a lot of work at least you own it free and clear and that's saying a lot in this day and age where people are in hock up to their eyeballs; where one thing goes wrong and the whole house of cards falls down. That was a smart thing to do because at least you will always have a place to live.
You have to stop putting yourself down.  Not just because your son picks up on it and can manipulate you with it but because when you put yourself down you are putting him down.  Believe it or not he does look up to you even though he would never admit it.  When you put yourself down as a parent you are telling him that the end product, that is, your son, is defective.  If you are failure as a parent then he is a failure as a son.  STOP IT!  Try finding something about him you really like and respect.  Find something about yourself you like and respect then try to convey how glad you are to be his father and emphasise whatever you can that makes you feel like a success as a parent.  Don't be phony cuz he'll smell it a mile away and it won't work.  Be genuine.  Stop beating yourself up and be the father you want to be; don't try to make him be the son you want him to be.  Let him know you are on his side, right or wrong (that doesn't mean you won't condone wrong, just that you will still be on his side).  Good luck.

The Troubled Teen Industry / My son thinks he is gay!
« on: December 07, 2006, 12:21:13 AM »
Give it a "one" on the trollometer

« on: August 07, 2006, 01:37:52 PM »
Those last two posts are mine.  Just thought I would log in and not hide behind "guest" Thanks all

« on: August 03, 2006, 12:09:16 AM »
It might help to go after those publications that let TBS and WWASPS buy advertising.  Sunset Magazine is a good one; they have quite a few ads in the back of the mag.  If anyone has money it would be good to buy some space for an ad attacking the WWASPS.  Just a thought

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