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Quote from: "Whooter"

Yes, I did say that, but I never mentioned anything about a rape.  We both agree that DJ brought that into the discussion.

No, we don't agree (we had an agreement that you wouldn't use the word "we" and I wouldn't use the word "shill".  I've held up my end) on that.  I've been away for a while so I have no idea if you did or didn't say that.  However, you did twist what I said to further your agenda.  You implied that I was behaving like a slut and I never said anything close to that.  And it's especially egregious that you would take my rape and twist it into saying that I was having "unprotected sex".  That's really, really low.

 

Quote from: "Whooter"

You can read into it all you want, Anne.  You never addressed the lies you told about me like working for the industry, being a shill or having made up having a daughter or multiple sons.

Before we came to the agreement that I wouldn't use the word "shill" and you wouldn't use the word "we".  Since then I haven't called you a shill. I said that I believed that you were working in some way for the industry, be it a strict employee or an Educational Consultant or a referral agency.  I don't believe I ever said for sure that you were either.  And you've admitted that you fabricated a fictitious son.

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 How come it is always up to me to supply the links.  Lets see you prove some of your own comments for a change.

I do.  You don't.  You twist what people say and pull quotes out of context to fit your agenda.

Whooter, you did say you fabricated a son and you also posed as the parent of another son on another thread so I think that's where she gets sons plural from.  Right after that you attacked her and said her rape was unsafe sex.  I read it in this thread.  I mean, I'm fine with what you said.  She deserved it.  But you did say it.

I am writing this post, and it will be my last here on Fornits, to apologize to everyone who I called "extremist" here before.  I should have tried to have a more objective view of extremism regarding programs and looked at both sides.  Now that I have done that, my perspective has changed.

When I look at Fornits objectively what I now see, that I couldn't see before, is that the extremism here is one-sided.  Not only is it one-sided, but it comes from the pro-program crowd.  It took me a while to recognize this fact, but I finally did see through the smokescreens used by the pro=program sect here.

I had always believed Whooter and Dqanny to be genuine people just expressing their honest experiences, like I do.  I have come to find out it's just not true and I mine as well get use to it.  Over the pst couple of days I have been defending Whooter's view of gays and homosexuality as a disease that caused the AIDS virus to be created in San Francisco and I thought because we shared the same view we had more in common than we actually do.

I was disappointed and saddened yesterday when Whooter admitted that he never had a daughter at all and that his entire story he tells here is a big lie.  I read all of the posts and looked at his response trying to figure out where he could of just mis-spoke, but he actually came right out and said it was true, that he had sons in programs and not a daughter.

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Quote from: "Anne Bonney"

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Quote from: "Guest"

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Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.

Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here.  The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.

Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.

Face it.....you got busted buddy boy.

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I admit that, Anne, but read through the thread and see what they did to this woman "worried Anne" and calling her son gay and pretending to be survivors with her son.  
I dont see it as being wrong at all.  I feel sorry for the woman.  I would probably do it again if the situation warranted.



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This was bad enough news on its own, but yesterday Danny also admitted he dragged that girl behind his van which he always denied before.

I thought this was a place for honest program supporters to share their experiences and that Whooter and Danny were the only honest ones here.  I'm sorry to admit that I had it all wrong and that Danny and Whooter were just lying.  I'm sorry to everyone I offended by defending those guys when they were lying all along.

I just wanted all of the people here who were abused by a program that I was wrong for lining up with those guys and I will not be back.

Quote from: "SUCK_IT"

I still don't get it.  Because some extemists here made lude comments about some lady you posted your son's success story?  Why not just be proud of your son and tell your story anyway?  It doesn't matter now anyway, you admit your son was at Wilderness and that he did great and that's all that matters.

I don't either.  If he just wanted to come to her defense, he'd have just posted the "truth" about his "daughter".  He got busted. Again.  :deal:


Poor Whooter's having a rough day today.  :beat:

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What do you mean again, Anne.  As far as I can see this is the first time Whooter lied about having a son in a program.  He was always honest with me and Danny about it.  It's the daughter part I can't figure out.  Are you suggesting he's lying about other things too?  I don't believe it not for a minute.

I still don't get it.  Because some extemists here made lude comments about some lady you posted your son's success story?  Why not just be proud of your son and tell your story anyway?  It doesn't matter now anyway, you admit your son was at Wilderness and that he did great and that's all that matters.

I still don't understand evening the score.  What score were you evening?  You have said before that you always tell the truth about your experiences with the many programs you work with and I have no reason to believe you would lie about your own son.  That would be out of character for you.  You could have just told your story about how happy your son was to go to Second nature and wanted to be a counselor without feeling like you had to even a score.  believe me the score is pro-program-100 antiprogram-0 right now because of stories like yours about your son.  That's good enough without making stuff up too.

Ha,Ha,Ha  I remember that one.  I was being trolled pretty good.  Everyone thought this poster "Worried Anne" was me trolling so they were giving her a hard time.  So I posted to even the scales a bit.  Read the whole thread its only two pages.



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I just read the whole thread and it looks like you posting as a guest and quoting yourself so you could then talk about how good your son did in his program, which I understand, your son did great and you want to brag and tell the haters their wrong.  But if you want to talk about how good he did why not just say that up front too.   I didn't see any trolling in that thread just some talking about second Nature and then you said your son loved it there.  I would be proud of it too if I had three successful program grad kids.

Will you give the man a second, Anne?  he just said to pu tup the link where he said his son was at wilderness and it's right here.  he said he sent his son to second Nature and he really liked it and wanted to become a counselor.  He'll explain it to you.

http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28642&p=344767#p344767

Quote from: "Whooter"

Quote from: "Guest"

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Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.

Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here.  The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.

Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.

it says your son not daughter was in wilderness and wanted to become a counselor which is great but you dod say son and not daughter.