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Quote from: ""Ursus""

We used to have meetings on the stairs (early/mid 70's).  Joe would stand somewhere between the library (still? anyway, the room with the huge oak table which I am sure can not be removed) and that front room which was opposite the headmaster's office.  He basically stood in what was an entry hallway.  In front of him was open area, leading to the dining room (the kitchen was still at the mansion).  On either side of this open area were the stairs leading up on either side to the 2nd floor.  Students would amass in the open area and sitting on the stairs.

BTW, I do believe I saw Cool Hand Luke here in this open space.  Maybe that was the summer.

Either my 2nd or 3rd year, enough progress had been made on the Student Union and school meetings (as well as dining arrangements) moved down there.

   Hey,

  If you think that oak table is still there, you were gone by '75.  Phil and his buddy lit a fire under the table in summer school '75.  
I met Phil B.  I knew he was crazy.  I don't know how the Hyde staff missed it.  I was told that they screen now. I have also been told that that is a lie.  I hear Hyde is admitting bi-polar kids and weening them off their meds.  They are damn lucky it has been 30+ years since some one has seriously endangered the other students.

Emil

Oh, but I do remember the fire.  For some reason, I thought the oak table survived it.  Guess not.

 Ya know, I think she really likes to hear herself talk.  And she likes to describe herself, think about herself, a very great deal...  When you put it like that, this is a picture of a very needy person.  There is definitely something that she hasn't quite gotten over, that's for sure.

I pity her; I probably would feel REALLY sorry for her, 'cept that she is so affronting and unpleasant.

We used to have meetings on the stairs (early/mid 70's).  Joe would stand somewhere between the library (still? anyway, the room with the huge oak table which I am sure can not be removed) and that front room which was opposite the headmaster's office.  He basically stood in what was an entry hallway.  In front of him was open area, leading to the dining room (the kitchen was still at the mansion).  On either side of this open area were the stairs leading up on either side to the 2nd floor.  Students would amass in the open area and sitting on the stairs.

BTW, I do believe I saw Cool Hand Luke here in this open space.  Maybe that was the summer.

Either my 2nd or 3rd year, enough progress had been made on the Student Union and school meetings (as well as dining arrangements) moved down there.

Anybody remember Gary Kent?  He used to be the wrestling coach for awhile... And isn't there now a gym facility on the Bath or Woodstock campus named after him?  Emil?  Mike?

I have recently come across some disturbing old news items linking Gary Kent to some of the WWASPs programs (see elsewhere on this forum).  Since his name isn't exactly the most unusual, I wish to rule out the possibility that there are two Gary Kents working in the teenage emotional growth industry.

Could anyone fill me in on his whereabouts in the years since the mid 1970's?  I do know for certain that he operated a program called Outpost at the Wolf Creek Wilderness School in Georgia in late 1991, which looks kind of like a 28-day program hiking out into the wilderness for troubled youth.  There is also a Gary Kent, associated with a Theresa Kent, that is associated with at least two of the wilderness programs in Montana.

Thanks.

Interesting post off of another website by a former student of Hyde.

I enjoyed the sports, I did my fucking homework.
But no, I still got to rake leaves, shovel snow, deal with bitches who belong in the loony bin.
Your beliefs, opinions, look on life will change; you will be silenced if you disagree with how they run shit.
They got this pompous old fuck to get up on stage, picked a random black student out of the crowd of the school, he then waddled his way into his head like a pseudo psychic (my example was John Edwards), he figures out the kid is adopted. Then he goes on asking rhetorical questions like: ?Do you feel unloved?? then started smearing it in his face like: YOU ARE NOT LOVED! The kid was fucking crying, I wanted to bust his knee caps that whole day, and sure I fought the system, but the workouts and labor got the best of me because it was just to hard to keep fighting the was they handle people.
It should be a reality TV show.

Was this off myspace?  I haven't made it over there yet.

And former parent, you did not tell us, which school did you enroll your child in post Hyde?  Was is a regular boarding school with more individualized attention, like Putney?  Just curious...  thanks

I cannot begin to tell you what a breath of fresh air our child's post-Hyde school has been. It's a dream come true, and it puts Hyde to shame. We deeply regret that we ever set foot on Hyde's campus. Seeing what's possible at a school that is professionally run by skilled, insightful, supportive (and not naive) administrators and teachers is inspiring and gives me hope.

What school did you end up enrolling your child in?

Quote from: ""Guest""

And Gary, please be patient.

When I first found this site, it was quite a while before I started posting.  Notwithstanding personal fears about the long arms of Hyde (which I suspect are nowhere near as long as our fears would have believe), I also was under the misguided impression that the then current posters were having a personal conversation with one another and there was no way I could just jump in and participate.  I would do a lot of reading up on older postings as well as then current ones, and then finally one day I posted as well.  It takes a while to get to that point.  And it takes a while to get from one or two sentence interjections to paragraphs.  And it'll take me a while longer to get to some of the more soul-searing and very very personal stuff, if I dare to.

In the beginning, there was a tremendous need to see my hurt or indignation, or others' hurt and indignation, expressed in print.  It was a bit cathartic, and very healing for me.  I have read others who post of these same sentiments, having read of others who express the same feeling that they thought were unique to their family's alone.  And perhaps that is where it ends for some people.  They do not have need for it to go any further.  However, I, for one, am very interested in seeing that your article makes it to print.  But you must be patient.

I am not entirely sure why this is, but there has been a tremendous increase in traffic at this site.  To be sure, the postings have been quite a bit more numerous, and I hear several voices that have not been here before.  But the "views" have also increased, exponentially it seems.  I just checked, this particular thread that this post is on has been opened and viewed 3827 times.  Last Friday night, I believe it was, I remember that it just crossed the 2100 mark.  That means that in approximately 4 days, this thread has been opened and viewed 1727 times.

I want to thank you, very much, for your thoughtful, articulate and perceptive observations.  Like you, I have been reading this web site cautiously and with some skepticism.  I am now convinced that there are quite a few very responsible people posting here who have lots to say about their dreadful, painful, or whatever experiences at Hyde.  Yes, there is some chaff among the wheat here, but that's to be expected in such a public forum where anyone can participate.  I'm very, very impressed by the growing number of people who have important things to say about Hyde, nearly all of them negative (at least that's my impression).

What seems to be happening here is that a critical mass of people is beginning to speak out about their Hyde experience in a way that wasn't possible when our kids were there.  Many of us suffered in deep and painful silence as we groped our way through Hyde for the 1-2-3 years we were there.  This web site seems to be unleashing lots of pent-up feeling and emotion about Hyde.  Finally, there's a place to share this, and this seems to be a safe place.  This is a very important development, and I suspect that Hyde is suffering from this exposure.  

As you said, this is very cathartic.  While I was suffering at Hyde, and as I witnessed all manner of unconscionable abuses and inept staff, I fantasized about exposing Hyde.  Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that this kind of outlet might be available.  I'm glad to have discovered this.

Former Parent, I was the one who originally posted the interior-most box; thank you for your kind words.  I decided today that I would finally take the plunge and become a recognizable entity!    

This is in very large part due to ALL of you who have poured out your feelings and experiences, both negative and positive, both serious and humorous, here on this board.  There is a kind of emotional cancer that feeds on the soul when you have a trauma and you think you are alone in that trauma (talk about "unique potential", eh?).  What has been so cathartic for me these past few months is the growing awareness that my point of view, my "take" on this place if you will, has VALIDITY regardless of whether any one agrees with me or not.  And that is THE BEST FOOD for the soul in no small measure.  Amen.

I would also like to venture a wee comment on how important it is to have "some chaff among the wheat" here.  A healthy community needs some dissent, some ribald humor, etc. to help keep its perspective and the juices flowing.  Plus, the postings reminiscing about past times and misbehaviors are so very important for the soul, so life-affirming; I enjoy reading them so much!...   ::nod::