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Seriously, I recomend checking out Ron Paul.  The media doesn t give him any coverage, but he is by far the best candidate running and in my opinion perhaps the best ever.  If you are interested in checking out his ideas, just google his name.  You won t believe all the shit that comes up.

Paul St. John

agreed.

Hey kids, so one of my best friends from RMA is helping Liam out with his documentary, and Liam is going to be in LA staying with her for a few weeks...she wanted me to put a call out to any CEDU/RMA folk (grads or not) who'd be able to get to LA on Saturday March 1st to be a part of the documentary. It's not going to be anything really heavy, no indictments or smooshing or anything like that...we'd all just go down to the production studio and talk about our experiences with the varied day to day weirdness that was the typical Mel Wasserman program, and generally get to know eachother. She'll provide food (veggie, non-veggie, vegan, blah blah) and maybe some beer, just to loosen up or whatever, but no hard liquor (that might come later if the mood strikes). It'd be like one or two hours Saturday afternoon. If any of you are interested, respond here or PM me and we'll get everything sorted. Once we know who's in we can figure out if carpooling's an option, and she and I will both help coordinate that as needed. Thanks!

PS. She also asked me to include the dates that they're going to be up in the Bay area, so if there are any of you up there that haven't already spoken with Liam or Jessica, the dates are March 7th and 8th. PM me if you want to be involved and I'll get you guys connected.

Hey kids, so one of my best friends from RMA is helping Liam out with his documentary, and Liam is going to be in LA staying with her for a few weeks...she wanted me to put a call out to any CEDU/RMA folk (grads or not) who'd be able to get to LA on Saturday March 1st to be a part of the documentary. It's not going to be anything really heavy, no indictments or smooshing or anything like that...we'd all just go down to the production studio and talk about our experiences with the varied day to day weirdness that was the typical Mel Wasserman program, and generally get to know eachother. She'll provide food (veggie, non-veggie, vegan, blah blah) and maybe some beer, just to loosen up or whatever, but no hard liquor (that might come later if the mood strikes). It'd be like one or two hours Saturday afternoon. If any of you are interested, respond here or PM me and we'll get everything sorted. Once we know who's in we can figure out if carpooling's an option, and she and I will both help coordinate that as needed. Thanks!

PS. She also asked me to include the dates that they're going to be up in the Bay area, so if there are any of you up there that haven't already spoken with Liam or Jessica, the dates are March 7th and 8th. PM me if you want to be involved and I'll get you guys connected.

good call. i'll add what i  can.

i was looking for the "caroline the wolf" thread but this will do. i talked to one of my little sisters from RMA tonight, one that was taken under caroline's wing, so she had a little more info than i had originally thought. apparently caroline had to be carried out of the school that she and barbara walter's daughter opened, went to the betty ford clinic for being a huge alcoholic, and last my friend heard was running from the law because matt from philly's mom is still suing her for sleeping with her son (who was 15 at the time) even though now he apparently runs his business from cuba. who knew?

people are strange.

Sure, DP, let's start with the complete transcription of an official/genuine/copy of an original- Circa mid-80's KHK Disease Concept paper, shall we?  :rofl: oh, and a * denotes an original author spelling error... Transcription courtesy of MG8.

                         "Disease Concept

...Drug abuse is a disease, not a symptom of some other problem. It is primary. In the past, and unfortunately even in the present, some physicians and some mental health professionals have believed that if they treated the underlying problem of the adolescent, he or she would stop using drugs. This approach was a total failure. As long as an adolescent is using drugs, no treatment for other issues is effective or even possible. Most frequently, drug abuse is the cause and not the result of the other problems. In any event, it must be treated first. This is the treatment approach of Kids Helping Kids.

WTF??? Not a symptom of other problems??? Where's the balance in that statement? Maybe some kids have less problems or whatnot than others, but at that age (any age really) there is almost ALWAYS an underlying reason for wanting to escape from one's reality. How can they ignore the underlying issues and simply "treat" the drug abuse? That's just simply the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Who the fuck are these people?

That really was convienent for them, yes? Step out of programmie line, and it's because of this disease concept. What I'm having trouble with is the arm flapping...what the hell? That brings up the most bizarre mental images. Can someone help me with this?

...went on to DRUG and RAPE and unconciouss co- worker who turned off his advances! a few years later.

God that's horrific. I didn't know that. Doesn't really surprise me tho.

...A child who is left at a place like that, and encouraged to adopt the confusing ideology of the place, will turn out very, very, perplexed (to put it perfectly innocently) for a long time.

That's a super benign and interesting way of putting it. Perplexed. I like.