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Open Free for All / Living on the Border
« on: November 24, 2003, 03:01:00 PM »
Kilnfried

once upon a time I was a child   I tried so hard to please them   I save the trees and kill the people   wouldn?t it be great to die here now   nothing  they can say   but get off me   the burning bush lost its heat long ago  I lie back relax watch my life overflow  tear threw dead nutrients with a fine tooth comb  runaway in the shadows that now are my home  And the man in the can he is calling to me And the others our mothers their lying to me the parasites dropping I?m dying to be what I want but I can?t but I?m trying to see how she died now   I?m all alone no place to call home   the quizzes about who I am   I was when I could be so maybe I should be so help me I?ll pay when I can    tears are freeflowing my dark sides are showing bulletins  riped down from trees   men and graffitti   spraypaint that can speak to me   nobody wants to be hear were I am now   I scream and I holler   I wear a dog collar   I wear what I want and I don?t have a father   Holidays slip by and I never notice  and all this time I?ve been gone   Mature subject matter the pig the Madd Hatter   noodle soup dinners and lunatic neighbors   the mud that I wade threw to make my way out   I see some horses   the sunshine it blisters  and me I am nothing but look you don?t know me  so don?t try to hold me I aching to scratch my way back   so many dreams ride past me as all these days mash into one driving and driving  in endless circles not caring or sharing  as long as its further away   my buddy?s skate station  he is my salvation   I need it I already have it a back stabbing brother in a big blue van  and evil is melting me here were I am
IN A CELL ALL ALONE AND WAITING TO .....die

Cera Ouish

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Carolina Springs
« on: October 13, 2003, 11:16:00 AM »
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The Troubled Teen Industry / High Impact
« on: September 25, 2003, 11:09:00 AM »
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The Troubled Teen Industry / BST
« on: September 01, 2003, 01:45:00 PM »
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The Troubled Teen Industry / People will Talk
« on: September 01, 2003, 10:45:00 AM »
From:
Graining the Mare
Poetry of Ranch Women

You may get threw the world, but it?ll be very slow
If you listen to all that is said as you go.
You?ll be worried and fretted and kept in a stew,
As meddlesome tongues must have something to do,
For People will talk!

If your quite and modest, you?ll have it presumed
That your humble position is only assumed,
You?re a wolf in sheeps clothing; or else your a fool;
But don?t get excited; Keep perfectly cool,
For People will talk!

And then if you show the least boldness of heart,
Or a slight inclination to take your own part,
They?ll call you an upstart, conceited and vain;
But keep straight ahead, don?t stop to explain;
For people will talk!

If threadbare your shirt, or oldfashion your hat,
Someone will surely take notice of that
And hint very strongly you can?t pay your way;
But mind your own business, whatever they say,
For people will talk!

If your clothes are in fashion, don?t think to escape,
For they criticize them in a different shape,
You?re ahead of your means; Your tailors unpaid;
But pay them no heed; Theres naught to be made,
For people will talk!

Now, the best way to do is to do as you please,
For your mind, at least, will then be at ease;
Of coarse, you will meet with all sorts of abuse,
But don?t think to stop them, its not any use,
For people will talk!

By
June Brander Gilman

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Deb, I found the link.
« on: August 29, 2003, 10:22:00 PM »
You asked me to post the link I was looking for if I found it.
I came across it tonight.

Here tiz -

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/des ... rate.shtml

^explanation of Large Group Awareness siminairs; a history lesson

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Straight
« on: August 23, 2003, 12:32:00 PM »
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The Troubled Teen Industry / To honor a requset
« on: August 03, 2003, 11:44:00 AM »
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The Troubled Teen Industry / mental health parity
« on: July 26, 2003, 02:47:00 PM »
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The Troubled Teen Industry / money
« on: July 24, 2003, 04:21:00 PM »
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The Troubled Teen Industry / ADD/ ADHD/ Meds
« on: July 20, 2003, 10:37:00 PM »
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The Troubled Teen Industry / For him who would read
« on: July 13, 2003, 06:44:00 PM »
I've been killen time on Amazon.
There is a wealth of books on a subject of intrest to many of us.
Here is an example - and I feel even the short review explains the how and why of the issues that puzzle us most.

 
See all editorial reviews...
 cults, personality change, and information disease, June 30, 2000
  Reviewer: An Amazon.com Customer from Earth  
This book provides an analysis of the techniques used by cults and certain "self help" agencies to alter the personality of the client. It presents a model, using catastrophe theory, in which the person is driven to a snapping point. After this snap, the personality is drastically changed, and often it requires another snap to rectify the situation. The theory presented here is very interesting. The cases discussed include those annoying cults and "self help" groups which roam college campuses (and its good to see that the authors do not bend to political correctness and include some of the more popular groups). In addition, the effects of stress are discussed in industrial settings. And, the governments royal botch-job at Waco is examined. Personally, I consider some of the "cult deprogrammers" as heroes who have tried to uphold a person's fundamental right to freedom of thought, against the sway of politicians. The only problem I have with this book is that there never is made a distinction between genuine religious conversion and cult conversion (snapping). I do not know how such a distinction could be made, but perhaps it would be an interesting area for further research.

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